₦airaland Forum

Alabo7978:
Yes, Ikuba is foreign.
The oldest god is Adum. Adum was the personal god and oracle of ijo

No body is doubting that Ijaws are not in Bonny.
But you came there later and hence had lesser influence on the Island than the Igbos who came earlier and had more population.

Tochi3:
@Igboid. You see how you have exposed the zombie. The Igbo wannabe have started speaking in tongues.

Your post held him on the balls hence the speaking in tongues. Just imagine his senseless reply to your balls dragging post

That's their way.
One rule for Igbo, different rules for everyone else.

SlayerForever:
First of all, the place is Okoloma not Okoloama, named after Okoloma Ndoki the birthplace of the Bonny people.

Opuamakuba does not add credence to any Ijaw link. Opuamakuba is an Igbo name, same as Asimini or Okpara Ndoli or Alagbayi.

Worshipping Adum or Ikuba does not add any credence to Ijaw too. Even on reading about Ikuba the Iguana diety the adherents of Ikuba called themselves ndi mmoo. Ndi mmoo is Igbo.

Asimini from Ndoki was Igbo. The language of Ubani from time immemorial was recorded as Ndoki Igbo. The first Igbo bible was made in Ndoki Igbo. The slaves were all Igbo and didnt bother leaving the island. It became a home away from home. Even Jaja himself noted in his writings that he became at ease when he arrived at Ubani because the people of the island spoke like his former master's place in Akwete. Everything about Ubani was recorded as Igbo. The Ijaw presence at Ubani was a minute population living in isolated areas of the island. The whites noted the Ijaw hatred and their unwillingness to mix up with the Ubani people from as early as 1800s.

My brother, forget I laugh too much. I have Ubani history at the back of my palms.

I think the Iguana thing in Bonny came from Aboh.
They have similar culture over there, you find the Iguana reverance anywhere Aboh had influence on.
Even in Orogun now part of Urhobo where Abohs once held sway and in Ndoni(Ndi-onu-iyi), the Iguana reverance is prominent.

Noticed also that the name Aboh called Bonny was written in the article the Ijaw guy shared.
All these shows that Aboh had great influence and contact with early Bonny and must have also supplied some of it's early occupants/Indigenes.

It's all making sense now. I

DitariDisciple2:
All una lies and frustrations ends online, both Ndoki and Bonny are Ijaws and are both coming to Ijaw Republic.
The new Central dialect will set all things right for all Ijaws.

Ijaw Republic our home .

When are you going to make a Chibuike Emuchay from Azumuni Ndoki Abia state the president of your IYC or INC?
In the spirit of Ndoki new Ijaw status?
It wouldn't be new you know?
Igbos are used to rulling Ijaws.

This news is like a knife and daggger down the hearts of "Ibos want Awa Oyel" people.
And I'm loving it.

Finally we get a bargaining chip to force the hands of the world to support our Secession Agenda from Nigeria.

Good news.

Anonymous15:
if Bonny is Igbo, why did mbanaso okwarazurumba threw away his Igbo name to answer Jubo jubogha?
if oko jumbo was Igbo, why did he fight Jubo jubogha who eyed the throne and was sent on exile?
If the igbos owned Bonny or rulled it, why did they throw away their Igbo names to answer ijaw names? I thought y'all are proud of your names and customs.
Bkayy says igbos were slave raiders, why did they capture only igbos because from a report I will show, Igbo slaves populated ijaw lands and were renamed just like when haniah azariah and co were renamed by Babylon to shedrach meshak and Abednego.
If fubara pepple was Igbo, why did he send this report through crowther to the British?
Imagine owning OKOLOMA but you chose to speak OKOLOMA dialect and change your names to ijaw names
Please Bkayy and igboid explain this report to the British government through crowther

What language do they speak in Bonny today? Igbo!
What language were they speaking in pre colonial days?
Igbo!
Why Jaja changed his name? Maybe Because he wanted a new identity befitting of his new life in Bonny and Opobo. He needed to evolve from Mbanaso.

Oko Jumbo was Igbo. Is this even up for debate?
King Pepple was Igbo speaking.

Anonymous15:
motherfucker I don't care about you or your Ethnic nationality, or your monicker or you at all, and even your reply or wether you know we exist.
ofcourse ndigbo knows we exist because we were your slave Masters. your ancestors revered us, and when we bought y'all as slaves, you took names from tribes of the Ijaw Ethnic nation, with reference to your brother mbanaso okwarazurumba taken from Amaigbo, present day IMO state and who accepted the name Jubo jubogha (Jaja of Opobo) and adopted various tribal tongue under the Ijaw nation.
you were sold by us for Dane guns, rum, etibo, and canons for our war canoes. below is a written copy of an excerpt from one of the perekule Kings on facts about Bonny to be sent to the British archives

TERMINOLOGY FROM KING PEPPLE.
Bonny is called OKOLOMA by themselves
Bonny is called okoloBA by the ibos
osiminikun by the Aboh tribe of ibo
new Calabar is called Bom by the ibos

king pepple said that Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by IBO SLAVES though they speak the OKOLOMA or Bonny language which is also the language of new Calabar.

I remain Rev and Dear sir
your obedient humble servant


that above is the report.
you never spoke Igbo when you were bought except now when Everyman is free and ofcourse there are igbos in Bonny BECAUSE Y'ALL LIKE TO ENTER EVERYWHERE UNINVITED but that doesn't mean you own the place mother fucker.
OKOLOMA is a clan under ijaw and the British didn't meet any Igbo speaking Igbo, but the OKOLOMA dialect like that report says.

you can search for it if you want, believe it or not but I don't care at all nigga.
and I won't engage you further. the most I'll do is rename you with an ijaw name like we did your ancestors.

Ijaw is an inconsequential Ogogoro drinkers who never amounted to anything significant in the past or present.
Tell me the most prominent Ijaw man in history?
King Jaja? Well Jaja is Igbo and likewise Opobo, which is his personal estate.
Ijaws were so inconsequential that Igbos were rulling over you in your lands.
Oko Jumbo in Bonny was Igbo, King Pepple was Igbo, Jaja was Igbo, Edi Abali the ancestor of Asari Dokubo who ruled Buguma was Igbo from Abam.
That's how inconsequential you are.

Ndiigbo don't reckon such a people. Opobo and Bonny remain Igbo speaking.
Nothing you or anyone can do about it.

izac82:
Ndi Igbo, we really need to go back to our tenet of civilization. One of our basis of existence is dialogue. We were a nation of dialogue and open conversation. Our ancestors were master conversationalist. No wonder, our progenitors christened it ''ekpan nkata'', because civil conversation was an art by itself. How we lost that capacity is still baffling to me.
We cannot achieve anything on abuse and insults. You may ague that other groups insult and attack us, but two wrong can never make a right. Present your case with facts, figures and decorum, and I tell you, by stooping low, we will conquer. And I support the OP on this, Oje mba ewe ilo.

Jee nodu odu nwokem.

In international engagement, there is no room for diplomacy and dialogue towards a people who meets you with hate, envy and evil.

In international arena, hate must be met with hate, and violence with violence.
Ndiigbo will not suffer witches and Wizards to live.
Any hate directed towards Ndiigbo by any person or group of people, must be countered with even more hate from Ndiigbo towards such group.

Anonymous15:
brother man you're right.
I am from the Niger delta, and my mother is of the Igbo Ethnic group.
of course I am fed up with Nigeria and I do not really believe there will ever be change, so because of that, I wanted we all from the former Eastern region to flag a nation and break apart, I also try to give some of my fellow Ethnic brothers of ijaw reasons we should put more weight with the Igbo ETHNIC group to help break away but it was in this nairaland I changed my mind entirely.
*one clown claimed the Nembe tribe was Igbo and speaks Igbo
* one claimed there is nothing like ijaw,
* another claimed our ancestors were igbos
*one claimed the OKOLOMA language of Bonny was Igbo despite a report from Samuel ajayi crowther stating they are two different languages.

I can't trust an Igbo man,
I admire the way they travel wide and start up business, but once they gain ground there, they'll want to grab that place, for instance Malaysia. I won't be surprised one day an Igbo man will publish a story of how oMAlicha a grand daughter of Nri migrated to Malaysia and that the original name of Malaysia is oMAlicha.
y'all are good concorters of stories.

Cool story bro.
Have you ever tried to listen to yourself?
Because you sound not so brilliant.

Ndiigbo are not even aware that you and your insignificant minority ethnic group exists.
Your assessment of us means nothing.

Opobo and Bonny speaks Igbo, all colonial visitors there met the people speaking Igbo, and the people speaks Igbo even till today.
So who the the hell is Ajayi crowther?

Are you okay at all?

KarlWest:
Your Urhobo is the major ethnic group in Delta State werey.

We see all of them as one and they live together in harmony. You never see them saying "Delta Urhobo", it's always "Delta Igbo" once it's good thing. Very soon, we'll be hearing "Kano/Kaduna Igbo" "Lagos Igbo" "Ibom Igbo".

Ndiigbo is not and have never been one with Urhobos.
The looks are different, the worldview is world apart.
You need help.

KarlWest:
I thought we all agreed that SS states are part of Biafra?

Stop denying your brother when they do bad things then run to shout Delta Igbo if it's good thing.

Stop being dense.
Urhobo is not Delta Igbo.
Ndiigbo have nothing to do with Urhobos.

izac82:
Calm down. Ndi Igbo need serious orientation. Have you been on Igbo history Facebook page? Post anything on ikwerre or Anioma and see the comments coming from some South East angles. The recent one is on Obi Maduka of Isele Ukwu. Come and see insults and bitterness.
We are gradually crossing the Rubicon. We need to sit back and reflect on realities. Love and tolerance conquers more than brute and force.
Engage any forum and groups, check the users that are likely to throw up insult or drag other ethnic group, its always our people.
If we don't change, I wonder how we can coexist together even in the supposed Biafra that most of us are clamoring for.

Obi of issele uku and his ilks in Anioma who bring disgrace to Ndiigbo with their Bini servitude and Stockholm syndrome, deserve all insults Ndiigbo are hauling their way and more.
You will never see Ndiigbo insult the likes of Obi of Onicha Ugbo, Asagba of Onitsha or Obi of Ogwashi-uku, because these lots don't deny their Igbo heritage with senseless Bini stories that invite expansionist Binis into Aniomaland.
Ndiigbo will not grant respect to those who disrespect us with senseless Bini stories.

VOICEofORIENTAL:
I'm not stupid! IGBO ADAGE;IF ONE OF YOUR FINGER TOUCHES THE PALM OIL IT WILL AFFECT THE OTHER FINGERS.the best way up in life is to always pause and ask your self honest and hard questions.. you said Igbo hatred have been on the rise? what exactly is the cause of this Igbo hatred? THERE ARE TWO THAT I KNOW..1.prosperity attracts jealousy, jealousy leads to hatred.ISAAC & JACOB experienced this type of hatred in there time, in the Bible..jealousy & hatred can also be found in Alaigbo.however, beside prosperity factor, there is another factor which is the number 2:BAD ATTITUDE TOWARDS YOUR HOST.let me stop here & allow you to ponder

So if the proverb is true, how come the whole Fulanis are not stained by Buhari incompetence and nepotism?
How come Atiku and El rufai are still nursing presidential hopes? How come the entire Fulani nation are not soiled and banned from elective posts in Nigeria looking at how their brothers the Fulani Herdsmen have been leaving footprints of blood from middle belt to lower South?

How come that despite Abacha looting the country into dark age, up to the point that we are still receiving his loots today, despite the loots of Gowon until he was kicked out by military junta, despite the loots of IBB and Abdulsalam,all greedy looters whose loots left NIGERIA comatose and whose tradition of looting Buhari has continued, despite all this, the North are not smeared by oil of greed, no one talks about how their greed and incompetence ruined the country.
They walk free and continue to nurse ambitions of ruling the country again.

It would appear there are two rules in this country. One rule for the Igbo, and a different rule for everyone else.
Your hypocrisy stinks.

BafanaBafana:
See people that said they want to leave Nigeria.
Now you are saying you will not leave until you are sent packing. Smh

You get rid of parasites.
You don't wait for them to come and tell you they want to leave.
You all know our stance on Igbo Political office holders.
They don't represent Igbo commoners. If the sit at home thing haven't taught you that, then I can't help you.

Musrataman:
Put a fight and be free not online noise

Only parasites fight to stay attached to hosts.
Hosts on the other hand fight to rid themselves of parasites.

Be the judge, who do you think you are? Hosts or liability?
Your actions speak louder. You are spoiling for a fight to cling unto a supposedly parasitic, drug peddling, fake drug and spare parts selling Igbos? Are you not engaging in self deceit?

When I am traveling through the length and breadth of SE, I see stretch of virgin lush green rainforests, and I start laughing at those who say SE is not big enough to contain and feed Ndiigbo.
We have so many uncultivated dormant lush green lands in Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi areas and in Anambra North senatorial district areas.

Mrexcell:
So many undeveloped lands everywhere in igboland yet haters keeps ranting that igboland can't contain all igbos.

Too many o!
Very lush green beautiful forests.

First and second pic is Mmaku town in Agwu LGA of Enugu.

Third and fourth is Abiriba town in Ohafia LGA Abia State.

orisa37:
The IGBOS are afraid of leaving NIGERIA. Their GOVERNORS don't agree with Their Traditional Rulers. Their Traditional Rulers don't agree with IPOB. IT'S ALL CONFUSION IN IGBOLAND. BECAUSE THE IGBOMAN IS MORE AFONJAISH THAN THE YORUBAMAN.

That should be non of your Problem as a non Igbo. You can't possibly love Ndiigbo that much to care about what we do to ourselves outside NIGERIA in Biafra. You can't be crying more than the bereaved.
Your problem should be to get your law makers to eject the liabilities called Igbos from Nigeria, so that they can go and kill themselves in Biafra, while you enjoy your new Nigerian eldorado.
No more overcrowding in Lagos, you get to expel those troublesome Igbos there if they can't get papers, you can even close their shops like Ghana is doing.
You deport them at will, you will no more have fake spare parts and fake drugs.
No more greedy Igbos to disturb and steal from Nigeria.
You will finally enjoy your NIGERIA.

Tell your law makers to do the needful.

Igbos only have 15 senators and less than 50 house of Representatives.
You can eject Igboland out of NIGERIA without their consent as they wouldn't be able to stop you from getting the two thirds of the count needed to pass the new law ejecting Igbos out of NIGERIA.

Think about it.

BafanaBafana:
Nobody is holding you, are you listening to me at all?
In recent times, there have been attempts to send you out but you kept resisting!
You don't get Biafra by waving flags, insulting other tribes and killing security men.
Apply for referendum and see how we help you speed up the process

What attempts?
How hard is it for Arewa and Odua NASS Members to unite and constitutionally send Ndiigbo packing out of NIGERIA?

That's how Malaysia got rid of the parasitic and troublesome Singaporeans, they(Singapore) didn't need to apply for any referendum.
Referendum come into place because some persons are forcefully holding another and looking for any loophole to claim that the other shouldn't be free .

orisa37:
It's not my fight . If IGBOLAND goes, YORUBA NATION will go by AWOLOWO.

Sounds like subtle Unity begging ish.

BafanaBafana:
When Arewa youths gave you guys quit notice, why didn't you take advantage to heat up the polity and leave? All your elders and chiefs went to beg El Rufai.
If you guys are serious on leaving, why haven't you made any move for referendum? Why haven't your senators moved to amend the constitution so secession can be inserted in it? It's because you guys are afraid of leaving, you just prefer to make noise and brag about Nigerians not wanting you to go.
Some northerners have helped you by asking a court to make the national assembly create referendum for you, your elders are crying foul and castigating them.

You are talking about civil war, do you remember that you guys were chased out of the country before the civil war started? The war wasn't about not wanting you to leave, it was part of dealing with you guys.
You know the steps to take if you wanna break away but you will never do it because you have nowhere to go.
Dot in a circle.

You are dense.
You give quit notice by expelling the people officially from the country through the National assembly.

You don't send your terrorist military to shoot and arrest people in Igboland for waving or wearing Biafra flag and still claim you have given them Biafra.

You punish no one but yourselves.
To keep someone on the floor, you too must stay on the floor, so you are punishing yourselves, that's why you have Bandits and Boko in the North and stealing elites all over the country.

The joke is on you if you think you are punishing Ndiigbo by keeping us in Nigeria, you will be suffering too, because it's obvious to you that the hate is mutual. As NIGERIA is, she can't even fight a foreign war, as any attempt to do so will result in the enemies financing Ndiigbo to finish you lots off from inside.
In Ndiigbo you have an eternal bitter fifth columnist. No country with such millions of fifth columnist will ever prosper.
So yeah, you are holding us, but you too must stay on the floor.

Ekealterego:
This Is Ehugbo/Afikpo town and a big town for that matter and there is a massive beach developed there.

Secondly, What other city in Nigeria do you have highrise close to the water except for Lagos? Again, in terms of building development, there is a massive difference between building development by sea salt water ocean bordered water bodies and fresh water rivers.

The land is usually marshy and do not make for a great sites for building and it costs a lot because you will need more money for foundations and the houses will generally not last as long. Except if you use wood for the construction.

Secondly there is problem of road construction etc.

From an environmental POV, those marshes near rivers are great source of biodiversity. it is generally good to be left alone.
Note, I don't mean smaller streams or smaller rivers.

Again, I don't think you know how this works... People, allover the worl

It would appear People didn't build close to the water bodies because in the past, River Niger banks covered those lands we see today that appears to exist between River Niger and Asaba town itself.

Firstly, River Niger covered those lands in the past, then with time, River Niger no longer covered them always, but only covered them seasonally. So if you build there , you have dry land in the dry season, but your house gets flooded in the rainy season, so people learnt to give the river a reasonable distance before building.
The shrinking of the banks of the River Niger is not unconnected to the desertification that is happening in the North. Many of the River Niger's previous tributaries in the past have all shrunk. Climate change and population boom in the North that meant that more Rivers are diverted for irrigation programs had taken its toll on the River Niger water volume.

So before people start making these ridiculous claims, they should study history Better.

In Ndokwa East where the ballooning population of the Isoko people Ndokwa people haboured had forced people to start building on these empty lands that were usually left close to River Niger, have resulted to seasonal flooding of people houses.

orisa37:
When NIGERIA is ready to burn it down.

You will be be burnt and roasted in that fire, while Igboland will rise like a Phoenix we are.

Ekealterego:
This is very very true. I believe it was Laird or Lander, I can't remember exactly who documented the diseases of people around the Niger" in 1820s or something like that. He first documented the diseases he encountered and reckoned that areas in Igbo hinterland was cleaner, healthier and neater... while those on the banks of the rivers and the water/canoe dwelling tribes like Ijos and the coastal inhabitants of New calabar suffered from a lot of tropical diseases and high infant mortality because of mosquitoes and other water related diseases.

The white men could not conquer Africa for a long time because the diseases kill them first even before the people kill the remaining ones weakened by mosquitoe borne diseases. The discovery of quinine marked the victory of Europe over Africa, especially the sub-sahara.

As for the Igbos, you are correct, the water dwelling Igbos were called Orus or Olus. The place names still exist all over those areas. and they were very influential in shaping those areas.

The Oru dieties were adopted by other coastal tribes. Around Bayelsa and Rivers. Once, you hear Oru this or Oru that, it's based off of the water diety*. Especially in amongst Engenni, Urhobo, Ijaw etc.

and for the OP, Alexbells, he talks with so much misinformation. That's what you get when you do no research before talking about something you know nothing about.

True.
The swamps were filled with disease bearing insects.
Mortality there was very high.
The air quality was bad, they were stinking of putridity and saline sometimes. Many got sick just breathing those bad air.
There is this community in Ikwerre called Rumukwuruishi.
It was named so because the area had stinking air and not fit for living those days, those who lived there had no option.
Rumukwuruishi is actually "Umu-Ikulu-ishii" people who breathed smelly air.

Ogbuefi2020:
I didn't say that igbos didn't farm but farming was not the main occupation since forested areas with poor soil and dense population is unsuitable for farming. The main farming tribes in Nigeria live in the sparsely populated Savannah region. Igala, tiv, jukun, gwari etc

You are dense.
Igbos didn't farm you said, so how did you think we fed our massive population?
You think you can feed millions on just fruits?

Igala, Tiv, Jukuns and gwari were Minorities for a reason.
They didn't have enough to feed their people.
Heavy population can only be sustained by food security.
Ndiigbo had that and the population balooned.

KarlWest:
Hmmm!

This name sounds like those IPOB people but they will be putting the blames all day on Innocent Nigerian citizens.

If na good thing now, this article would have been flooded with some meaningless comments like ; Ndi Igbo, Biafra, Igbo Amaka blah blah blah!

Don't be stupid.
The name is not Igbo.

BafanaBafana:
Nobody is afraid of looking igbo land.
The question should be why Igbos are afraid of leaving Nigeria

Are you for real?
Igbos fought for three years to leave dead Nigeria.
And currently we are still agitating to leave your colonial Frankenstein monster of a country.
Why are your military down East shooting Igbo youths for flying Biafran flag?
Why are you forcing Unity with us?

Do you not have belief in your ability to survive without us?
Does that make you a host or a parasite?

[quote author= post=107917603][/quote]Imagine the glory and beauty of Igboland. A blessed land. Constant rainfall, green vegetations providing fresh oxygen filled air.
Chai!
Igbo Amaka!

BlackfireX:
Is that all..

Op stop shoving your small state's minute achievement on our throat.. everytime show off

You will soon suffocate from so much hate and envy.
Continue. We will keep shoving it down your throat.

SlayerForever:
I love the forest cover in the southeast. It is a blessing from God. But only few will understand.

Our land is blessed.
We have it all, that's why Nigerians want to die put on top of Igboland.

Bkayyy:
I don't know where you people learnt your Geography, but as far as I am concerned, ANAMBRA is a country not a state.
The current president is Obiano while the incoming is his excellency Prof Soludo.

Yes o!
Gbam.