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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:06pm On Apr 18, 2025
descarado:
When wokeism happens, logic is thrown out of the window.

1+1 is no longer 2.
So we need the law to draw us back to basics
When people called the earth round, I'm sure they were called woke or the equivalent in their days by the flat earthers.
What about those who dreamt up electricity?
Or those who freed the slaves, they fought a war to protect the south from those woke northen ideas
What about those who ended segregation?
Or those who fought for equality for African American?
What do you think they called women who wanted to vote?
Or those who started developing electric cars?

You can disagree with the trans issue, no matter how ill thought out, it started from a place of inclusion and non discrimination.
That math you speak of, it was developed by someone woke in their time.
It always baffles me that Conservatives in their poor red states somehow believe they are smarter or add more to the country than all those red states with their high GDP's and super hard to get into colleges.
Levels of delusions.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:30pm On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
They just hand him scripts to read.

IMO The immigration angle is all Stephen Miller. If he can make America white again, his life’s goal would be accomplished.
I think it is all him.
Has a touch of his special brand of white nationalism.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:29pm On Apr 18, 2025
bemeruca:
We don't need these people in this country
If you want to pretend you are in America, you'd be a on a pretend work visa, which makes you neither a citizen nor even a permanent resident.
So, take your own and Trump's advice and be a pretend guest and don't put voice in matters that don't concern you.

Who da fuq are you to tell anyone who belongs in this country?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:26pm On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
it’s nothing bad actually. its more so just grand standing trumpian verbiage.

Paraphrasing “self deport if you’re illegal or there will be consequences”

As if Uscis carters to illegal immigration. Why post those kinds of messages on the website instead of the border where the illegal immigration is happening?

Basically if you are here seeking asylum and you go to Uscis to legalize your stay, you might feel targeted by such subtle threats. They forget people have to actually be here first before applying for asylum.

And then there are pictures of wanted immigrants on the website. I don’t believe I’ve seen that before.

Last I checked Uscis was not Interpol grin
And asylum is a legal process.
Yeah, this seems to be part in parcel of a larger strategy of fear developed by someone other than Trump (Trump isn't aware enough to do it).
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:09am On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
They posted threatening messages on the Uscis website.
I just logged in to check on an application I’m working on for someone.

Why post those subtly threatening messages on a website that people are supposed to use for legal immigration? If what you’re against is illegal immigration?
Really? What was the gist of the message if you don't mind sharing?
First I'm hearing about it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:56am On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
It’s more or less testing the waters. Catch and release. Catch and release.

While their republican doofuses try to excuse their actions by saying “see he’s been released”. Then gradually everyone will start getting used to American citizens who look a certain way being arrested as long as they eventually get released.

Until it’s not news anymore and then people stop talking about it. That’s when people will get disappeared and no one will even know or make fuss about it. People who don’t have deductive reasoning irk me. I’m gonna need us to have more sense and pattern recognition abilities.

Yep, international trips to the USA are down this first quarter. 70% less from Canada alone. Europe about 30% less. If this goes on it will keep dwindling. No one would risk coming to America is they can be disappeared on a technical error and the president goes “welp nothing I can do about that”.
Definitely trying to normalize it.
And fear, for immigrants, seems to be the point.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:31am On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
The cops were supposedly confused about his citizenship status because he spoke a different language and of course the unspoken fact that he’s not white.

When he campaigned on sweeping immigration arrests, we said “how will they immediately decide whom to arrest”? Wouldn’t that be open invitation for racial profiling?

Mumu supporters said we were playing victim
Exactly what everyone has been screaming about in re: to Garcia.
Now we have citizens being swept up and held even after proving they are citizens.
What right would ICE have to even hold them after that and why would the judge acquiesce?

Just illegality after illegality.

My boy's oyinbo wife cancelled an international trip because she was scared for him.
She might have made the right call.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:59am On Apr 18, 2025
Reagan Appointee Harvie Wilkinson

“The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and member of MS-13. Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process. If the government is is confident of its position, it should be assured that position will prevail in proceedings to terminate the withholding of removal order. Moreover, the government has conceded that Abrego Garcia was wrongly or ‘mistakenly’ deported. Why then should it not make what was wrong, right?” Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson wrote Thursday.
..
“It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear,” Wilkinson wrote.

Wilkinson is an appointee of President Ronald Reagan.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/appeals-court-calls-trumps-defiance-shocking-in-scathing-ruling_n_680156f1e4b0f92ccce18682?av
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:42am On Apr 18, 2025
PDPGuy:
😂😂

On the food inspection matter, I think the state and local authorities could do an effective job in inspecting produce. For instance, a state like CA should have the resources to engage in statewide food inspections, without federal assistance
Honestly, stuff like this I'd rather have one Fed. agency control it. If they choose they can contract some of it out to the states. I want to be comfortable going to any state knowing the standard is consistent.

Plus, given everything we've already seend I don't trust this Trump asmin to do it right.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:36am On Apr 18, 2025
cococandy:
Not me

I like my food seasoned with e.coli and garnished with salmonella. I’m sure his followers agree too lipsrsealed
Lol.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:48pm On Apr 17, 2025
Who needs food inspections?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:26pm On Apr 17, 2025
bemeruca:
I live here now.
The level of mental illness in this post.

I am eminently intrigued at what causes a person to pretend to live in another country and spend hours pushing out disinformation about immigrants and minorities, both this he would be.
It's like super dislike of who you are.

I think someone should write a paper and do a study on it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:11pm On Apr 17, 2025
bemeruca:
Your love for this country only stems from who is the president. You have been taking the side of the enemy for every scanario that plays out.

You choose illegal criminals from other countries over our own.
You're not an American, not a Resident, nor a visa holder, speaking against the Bill of Rights, which is the core of the Constitution.
Why should I care what you think?
From where I stand you are the enemy trying to destroy what we stand for and hurt Americans all while using the pretense that you live in the US to do so.

You are not we.
You are not American. Full stop.
Your voice is not an American voice so stop pretending you speak for my Country.
If fact if you were here on a visa, you'd be getting deported to El Salvador for writing a lot of the shit you do.

Let's go further, the reason I call you out everyday is because I choose America over foreigners who pretend to live here all the while sowing discord.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:59pm On Apr 17, 2025
bemeruca:
You only care about due process when it's against criminals.

If it's a person that is Trump's camp you would not care.
You hate America, it's Constitution and all it's laws, but wake up everyday pretending to live here.
Imagine, You're an America Hating unAmerican person who pretends to live in America.
huh
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:53pm On Apr 17, 2025
cococandy:
Golden.

By their logic Trump shouldn’t even have had representation much less his day in court. He should be in a foreign detention camp. Instead he had his day in court. Had the ability to defend himself. Was convicted of 34 different felonies and still had the privilege to run for office. What black man or minority can do that?

Too stupid to know you’re stupid is a special kind of stupid.
Wouldn't that have been nice. grin

But, it's Super due process for me none for thee. A Super due process most minorities or immigrants could even sniff.

He's spent hours talking about due process but doesn't even seem to understand it.
Trump not only had his day in court, he had many Appeals court visits and and even went to the Supreme Court (with people he appointed) multiple times. In fact one of his judges (Judge Cannon, who let him off) he appointed. If you thought Trump was getting railroaded you should have been happy he was afforded due process.

It isn't even hard. It's Constitution 101, the Bill or Rights.
And anybody speaking against it is speaking not just against the culture of the US but the actual words of the Constitution from the 5th Amendment.

Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:00pm On Apr 17, 2025
bemeruca:
Eff your laws, you were happy when the laws were bent to go after trump or any Trump. Supporter. The guy has been deported, no one gives a fvck except people who hates this country.

Leave it, you don't cry for due process for others than you are crying now for a criminal.
This is my point.
You don't even understand what the words due process mean.
The fact that Trump isn't sitting in jail now, meant not only was he afforded due process but he was afforded privileges not many would get.

The danger the US has right now is an anti-intellectual one. There are people too stupid to know how little they know, too proud to study it and very comfortable displaying that ignorance to everyone.
Your case is worse, not only do you not know how little you know there seems to be a mental illness there that makes you wake up everyday, pretend to live in the US and post clips against black people and immigrants even though you are a black person and would be a immigrant if you ever got a visa to the US.

In fact you are the one who hates the US, as you are advocating against everything the US stands for and is outlined in the Constitution.
It's a good thing you'll never be a citizen nor resident.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:15pm On Apr 17, 2025
bemeruca:
These are other incidents involving this Maryland angel
We have laws in the US.
If the US government had the evidence they should have entered that evidence in court.
Who you think he was or what he did in the past doesn't matter as that's now how our laws work.
People are innocent until proven guilty.
We are a country of Laws. Period!

You're not in the US and do not read so you will never understand the US culture of due process to even the most hideous of people because it protects the innocent amongst that.
You should probably leave matters related to US culture to those who live here or are proficient in English enough to read a history book.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:46pm On Apr 17, 2025
EnlightenedUFO:
This place is really rife with hate from the rapist trump's supporters. I'll advice staying away from debating caustic people like this for your mental health. Remember these hateful people breath and shit like us in the real world.

Stop debating these people who have no regard for life. @ijebos @budaatum @cococandy
Yeah.
They are casually cruel.
They know most of the things they post are lies but still post them as it gives them joy.

I watched Pam Bondi's press conference lying about Garcia while having her cross dangling from her neck and chuckled.
Their whole existence is fictional even down to their faith.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:08pm On Apr 17, 2025
mayorcassa977:
why are you gay?
Fyi, guys who get women usually don't go online to sexualize AI images.
The jokes write themselves about you "guys".
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:26am On Apr 17, 2025
raumdeuter:
The dress fits you perfectly

When are you going to show your DL to prove you live in Boston
Oga, aren't you tired?
At the end of the day, when you've stopped typing your lies, I'll still be me, still heading to the lab to work out for the summer and still with a dope girl.
Invest ur time in something better.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:18am On Apr 17, 2025
Let's pick a fight with Harvard..
Good Luck.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:15am On Apr 17, 2025
budaatum:
Will fighting some stupid pointless idiot on Nairaland fix the larger issue? Will pushing back and countering the disinformation peddled here by 2000mules basilico that intelligent people ignore fix even the tiny issue of his pointlessness?

But to be honest, it's how one fights back. One can spend copious amounts of time fighting him daily, or just expose his lies when necessary and trust it is seen. He wins though, if I let him drown me in his lies. Not many will bother to dig through like 5 pages of pointless back and forth with him, and I don't have the energy to waste on insignificant him when I could be building a computer with my nephew and watch Arsenal beat Real Madrid or just play chess, or let myself be educated about US by cococandy, and you when you are not busy pushing back and countering the disinformation from ignorant people who haven't got a clue.

And on this note, I've spent enough time discussing stupid idiots. Forgive me please if I do not continue discussing them.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:14am On Apr 17, 2025
Judge ain't playing.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:11am On Apr 17, 2025
cococandy:
Full on constitutional crisis.

Lay low. Stay safe kiss
Thanks.
But we in those streets.
The revolution will not be televised. grin

Seriously, part of me thinks the next time I land in the US, they'll ask me to head to that room over there. undecided
Just wild this is what we are talking about.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:31pm On Apr 16, 2025
cococandy:
Meanwhile we’re here being gaslighted by werey people. Oh dear
This is a big deal.
Bigger deal Republicans in Congress seem not to care.
We are in uncharted territory.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:29pm On Apr 16, 2025
budaatum:
I got dump creating an environment where people feel scared, so why would I bother with his insignificant irrelevant minions here instead of arming myself against dump?

I'll answer that. I need all my energy to fight dump (even far away here in UK, since his ideology is crossing the Atlantic ocean if left unchallenged), and will not waste any or at least not too much of my time on minions who's only intention is to waste my time with their stupid ignorant "gaslighting, goal shifting and arguments based on lies they "heard" on some right wing site" so I have less time and energy to spend fighting dump.

Others are under no obligation to emulate me, mind. Some perhaps must fight insignificant irrelevant minions.
Fighting Trump means pushing back and countering the disinformation wherever you are.
Trump is a symptom of the no truth environment we live in.
Just fighting him will just won't fix the larger issue.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
raumdeuter:
Cute gown you got on there. Who made the gown for you, they got your size
Definitely my size.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:48pm On Apr 16, 2025
basilico:
We been here before,
I only have one username here
Take that to the bank.
I'll send you 2 million naira if you can prove otherwise
Of course, he just pops up randomly to post nonsense, around the same times you post.
Makes all the sense in the world.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:58pm On Apr 16, 2025
Weregonnalose:
kikikikikikiki

ya ah gays
You have to be basilico.
What is the probability that the minute I post this you pop up yet post nothing else ever?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:57pm On Apr 16, 2025
basilico:
Those broad manly shoulders and biceps biceps. Looks a trans to me.
The dude whose wife probably looks like an ogre, said she is fit. Lol. I've always knew you were confused.
Oga, she's out of your league.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
raumdeuter:
You will know about bending over a lot, How is your husband doing BTW
Any steak dinner dates planned for tonight?

I don't need to imagine anyone being married to you, because no one would
You seem to fantasize about bending over a lot.
Does your wife know?

There is a cadre of women who may disagree with you about noone wanting to be married to me.
No steak dinner, but I like to be out more when it gets warmer. I'll post some.

Here's a steak dinner for you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:59pm On Apr 16, 2025
cococandy:
Not just him though. A bunch of those people arbitrarily rounded up and sent to those death camps haven’t actually been accused of any specific crimes.

I mean they have tattoos but I have tattoos too. So I guess I am a gang member now.

I don’t know any of these people and wouldn’t swear on my life that they are not gang members. But that’s where the burden of proof comes in. Can’t sentence someone to a fate that can’t be undone just on a whim. The cruelty is unfathomable.
Exactly.
It's just cruel if he is not a gang member.
So, simple, bring ur evidence to court and just prove it.

Asking for due process is even a selfish thing as you would want that for yourself.
Prove to me the thing you said I did before sending me to jail.

Will leave the tatoo comment alone. grin

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