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GloriousGbola:
The irony again is that + thinkpads (well the older generations) actually have two batteries an internal and an external so you can swap a battery without the device losing power.

If laptops drew power from their battery for cmos, laptop repairs would be disruptive.

Exactly!
He's realized that by now, so is deciding to go in circles.

feedthenation:
---Felon 47 latest side-guy---Bukele did not wear shirt and tie and none of the MAGAdiots made any statement---but they were quick to attack Zelenskyy---for his appearance in similar setting---

If they wasn't hypocrisy there wouldn't be MAGA.

cococandy:
But we were fear mongering right?. That was the first gaslighting technique they used. Then when it turned out it wasn’t a lie after all, it became “they deserved it”.

I just watched bemeruca call IjeBos a terrorist a few pages back. He confidently classified someone he knows is not a terrorist as a terrorist. That is where we are with them.

So logically if IjeBos were to erroneously end up in ICE trouble for whatever reason even though he’s a citizen, bemeruca would say it is where he belongs because he’s a terrorist? This is where we are in 2025.

That’s what happens when you lose your soul.

I feel sorry for people who use the word like that. It shows a lack of depth.

But it is exactly what Android17 was pointing out though he didn't stand by it fully.
It was on full display at the White House yesterday as Trump called Garcia a terrorist, without proof, while he pardoned all the people who actually committed would would align closer with the definition of terrorism on Jan. 6.

terrorism:
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

AmazonTopaz:
Latinos for Trump = Chickens for KFC

Latinos will learn a very good lesson that they can never be White.

Chickens for KFC
Ha

cococandy:
Trump caught on a hot mike telling the El Salvador president “the home growns are next. We’ve gotta build about 5 more places”.

If you think you’re safe, you’re not. Unless you’re kissing his butt.

It was never about illegal immigration.

It was about getting rid of the "undesirables". You know those non white people.
Dangerous times.

Obrigardo:
And the gang star el salvador despot said this to the rapist who smiled at it -

President of El Salvador Nayib Bukele: "Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate. But to liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some."

THIS IS CRAZY! The rapist trump must be removed by all means!

Doesn't even sound like the American I've lived in.

basilico:
When you take out the battery , the laptop will be powered from the mains.
You failure to grasp what bemeruca said only shows how little you know about stuff

Lol.
The games you play.
Take out the battery, unplug the ac adapter and tell me where the power comes from for the RTC.

This intellectual dishonesty is typical of every conversation you have.

bemeruca:
You have no argument, you don't even understand "power off" vs unplugged.

If you don't understand basic computer systems be quiet. Playing with raspberry pi and Arduino does not make you an expert in anything. If you are, you won't be jubilanting for changing CMOS battery.

He said not understanding basic computer systems and then talks about playing with raspberry pi and arduino. Lol. The dumfukery of it all.

Oga, what's funny, in that picture with one of my parts bins is a power supply (adjustable buck converter).
Thought it would be funny to show you a power supply while you drone on and off with your AI written posts about power supplies without even being able to understand what you were looking at.
Lol.

You gotta learn when to shut your mouth.
Oga, go rest.
Lol.

Obrigardo:
This is what you actually do and you have been caught multiple times trying to sound smart. You xenophobic maga cultists are the ultimate projectionists. I bet you are now using the same gemini to create scripts in order to phish out on other people in those braindead rumble maga forums.

That's why he can accuse others of doing it.
People generally accuse people of the things they do themselves.

1.) He uses AI to write his posts (been caught numerous times), so he thinks everyone is as dumb as him and needs AI to write their posts. In fact if you copy and paste some of the things he's written about this computer convo, you can see the sites/places he pulled them from. It's somewhat embarrassing because it reads like someone who really doesn't understand what they are saying.
2.) Same as lying about living in the US. Used to accuse everyone of the same thing.

But, I see it as a compliment as I write my own posts yet he thinks AI did.

bemeruca:
You are basking on idiocy as you continue to sound clueless then take my initial position as you lie that I said something I never said.

I asked you, when a system is unplugged and no battery how does it turn itself on? You argument is moot.

I was the first to spoke about RTC while you were shouting CMOS.
1: CMOS battery old, new systems hardly include it
2: they now use RTC which is charged by a super cap. And it uses the laptop battery instead of a dedicated coin like battery.
3: not all computers require RTC

These are my 3main point. Now you lie saying I was talking about spontaneous energy because I was explaining standby power and remote.

You just learnt about RTC two minutes ago and it is because I mentioned it.

Your raspberry pi does not have RTC or CMOS battery yet it functions. Again, I said servers can function without RTC and they can turn on via remote (Network Interface Card) which can turn on the computer. At this point you have accepted our position, you are arguing to save face.

Bemeruca developed Spontaneous Power right here on Nairaland.

My whole home/security system has a backup battery and backup lte because I understand that power doesn't generate spontaneously. Lol

Trump says he supports deporting U.S. citizens


I also thought his whole rationale for sending people to El Salvador to save money was interesting given he is literally saying he is tariffing other countries to prevent business from sending jobs overseas to save money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlXTns6qbw

basilico:
I requested you to take out your laptop battery, and measure voltage between it's terminals.. There will be some DC reading.
Batts never go to zero . BMS says it's zero based on .
State of Charge.

So close.
When you take the battery out of the laptop, does the laptop have power?
What happens to the clock?
Specifically what is powering the RTC?
Or is it that spontaneously generating Energy Bemeruca was talking about?

When you're wrong your strategy seems to be to ramble on about irrelevant things.

This messaging seems very late.
I would have thought these guys would have learned from Trump's first term.

bemeruca:
I don't see why I can't work in the place I do because one or two politicians are liberals or majority of the resident in the city are liberals. This is the exactly why your side are going about bombing teslas.

By your logic why are you in the country at the moment? Why no leave?

Oga, you do not live in Seattle.
Are you mentally ill?

You're like that guy in Legion with all the mental illness and none of the superpowers

basilico:
That's a high quality voltmeter you got. Don't matter if it's from China.
Now when your laptop drains to 0 use it to measure if there is any voltage across it's + and - terminals.
What's voltage . That's potential difference between any 2 terminals you need a higher PD to send a current to a lower PD..
Should have at least 4 leads Two of them are the power input, the other 2 are for controls

lol @ missing the sarcasm.

1.) It's a multimeter, it measures more than just voltage. See those other signs there.
2.) It's a decent quality meter. I use this one for quick measurements.
3.) You seem like you don't understand how to read the room. I'm mocking you.

You're playing at an Engineer. I am one.

basilico:
Ijebos don't know that . Yet he has studied Computer engineering in Harvard his words.
Not computer science which can be anything like ML, Webdev, Cyber security , etc.
He thinks battery level 0% means battery is dead kaput and thus has no wake up LAN .

I might have accidentally blown up his claimed Comp science degree

I always wonder what separates talented tech people from not so talented tech people.
I think it's posts like this.

You design something with the assumption that there is always a battery/power connected. And if a battery it will always have some charge and if plugged in, it will always remain plugged in.
What happens to a core system if both your assumptions are wrong? I'll tell you, your system fails.
Just a piss poor design.

No power means that, no power. No battery, not plug into the wall, no trickle charge. And in that case there is nothing for the RTC to use to keep itself powered. So, the clock will stop.

Your reason here is how you reason most of your pro Trump posts. I really think you aren't smart enough nor imaginative enough to do better.
But I'll say it anyways, do better.

basilico:
Ok. When your laptop goes off , get a voltmeter and measure if there is any voltage across it's terminals.Dont be scared ,it won't electrocute you.
Not only that, do the same to your phone, check if the batt ihas some voltage.

Tell me, can I use this big yellow thing to measure voltage? And do I just wave it across whatever "terminals" of the laptop you think you're talking about?
Oga, don't let me embarrass you more.
Go rest.


Lol.
He said check the terminals of the laptop. And check if the phone has voltage. Lol.
What da fuq are you even talking about.
I can't.

Looks like we are about to be in a full blown Constitutional Crisis.

The US is paying El Salvador to hold people in which after a year the US gets to decide what to do with them,
But the US says,
1.) They are under the control of a foreign nation.
2.) Don't have control of them and can't get them back.
3.) Won't show the agreement to the court as it is classified.
Again, everyone should be worried why Trump is fighting this like that.

This is all after a 9-0 Supreme Court RUling.

Obrigardo:
It's deeply saddening that this doesn't even phase the bald headed maga cultists like basilico loco, because he thinks he is safe in his township square house, and safe from mudslinging and gaslighting online, when even he can't afford a can of sardine due to the balooning prices from the rapist trump's tariff wars. As long as they find an outlet to launder their hate, this will never shock the dumb maga cultists.

But this won't just stop here. If the beacon of democracy can do this, people in countries without fully functioning courts don't stand a chance.

bemeruca:
we have been saying this since yesterday and you are arguing against it

You never have a point just keep moving goal posts.
You started with modern computers don't use Cmos batteries.
When I showed you a 2020 11th gen i7 laptop with a CMOS now it's Energy is created spontaneously.

basilico:
Bemeruca informed you that newer laptops dont necessary have CMOS batteries. This is true esp MacBooks and modern laptops not landfills


While most laptops typically include a CMOS battery to maintain BIOS settings, there are some models that either do not have one or can operate without it. Here’s a summary of HP and Dell laptops regarding their CMOS battery status:

HP Laptops
HP ProBook Series: Some models in this series may not have a traditional CMOS battery, relying instead on the main battery for BIOS settings.
HP Spectre x360: This model can function without a CMOS battery, but it will lose BIOS settings when powered off.
HP Envy Series: Similar to the Spectre, certain models may not have a dedicated CMOS battery.
Dell Laptops
Dell Latitude Series: Many models can operate without a CMOS battery, as they rely on the main battery to retain BIOS settings.
Dell Inspiron Series: Some older models may not have a CMOS battery, but they can still function normally.
Dell XPS Series: Certain configurations may not include a CMOS battery, depending on the design.
Key Points
Functionality: Laptops without a CMOS battery can still run, but they may lose BIOS settings and time when powered off.
Battery Dependency: These laptops often depend on the main battery to maintain settings.

Again, you prove my point. Mac's use the main battery along with a capacitoru. Without a battery you have nothing to power the RTC.

bemeruca:
That's not what i said you can lie

see me quoting myself:


you don't have to lie, just learn

And this dumbass even repeated it.
There is no 3v, or 5v, or 12V rail if the power supply isn't plugged in.
Power is transferred through the transmission lines through the wall socket to the power supply of your computer.
If you unplug the power supply from the wall where da fuk is the power for 3v,5v or 12v lines coming from?

Power just isn't magically created it is transferred.

Just stfu you dumbass.

bemeruca:
There is always power else it cannot turn itself on.There is standby power. Usually you have 3v, 5v and 12v power system for computing system.

Bemeruca says when a system has no power, (is not plugged in), capacitors drained, no battery, that there is still standby power.
Energy from nowhere.
Who would have thought that the 1st rule of thermodynamics was proven false right here on Nairaland.

It's Sunday and we have the miraculous creation of Power. Lol.
God said let there be power inside his computer and there was.

Thanks for the laugh.

Trump's recalcitrance in returning the person sent to El Salvador combined with his fight whether people not born in the US by US parents are citizens is making sense now.
Every naturalized immigrant should be concerned.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-el-salvador-us-citizens-denaturalization-1235315975/

bemeruca:
Dude, be quiet. You were breaking down emotionally when it got to you that I may not be in Nigeria. You started telling me about your friend in Canada and your no japa is by choice. I don't care about your emotional stories. People here have always doubted me about where I have been to and live. It is not new to me. The only people obsessed here are you and ijebos and that obsession is stemming from jealousy

Says the guy who is obsessed with living in the US he lies about it daily.

GloriousGbola:
the paradox of the african conservative - benefiting from liberal policies while hating on liberal values. broken brain.

I'm 100% sure he's not in the US. His stories just don't make any sense.
I'm not even sure he's even still in Canada. His whole story of his trip was shady. Canada does have good programs for immigrants to get residency, but he would have even known that for a while. My homegirl went to Canada on that route and it took her 6 months to pack, sell stuff, close work etc etc. Imagine having a family.
Plus he said he had a Dubai trip around that time. Best case is that he found a way to sneak in and filed asylum or he had a tourist visa he is overstaying or he's back in Naij now. It just makes 0 sense why he would lie about it if he did get accepted into that Canada Immigrant Residency Program.

But you are right it's incredulous that this guy who benefited from Canada's very liberal immigration policy trashes those same policies daily.
He better hope life doesn't have karma.

I think at one point he may have been.
But saying he is, it's a

basilico:
The Master Clock will update to the correct time and date from the CMOS or from external NTP server.Then everything is all dandy. Modern MB esp MacBooks don't have that coin shaped CMOS battery,that's what bemeruca has been telling you

1.) So say I power off my PC at 10:21 and have no internet connection, how does that time update when there is no power? If it can't update, how does the computer turn on using a schedule at 1:30pm?
2.) MacBooks implement the RTC using its laptop battery and a capacitor.

bemeruca:
Computer work with wrong time, when it connects to the internet, the website refuse to display or work because it needs to use the correct time.

You assume that it will eventually connect to the internet. Using an assumption that a computer will connect to the internet doesn't seem to be a robust way to program anything.

A couple years back I was rebuilding my server and needed to reinstall a piece of software that I used to use to alert me of HD temp issues. I tried to install it but when it loaded it told me the software was no longer supported and wouldn't do anything else. I knew the software still worked as I had used it on the previous server, same OS and all. I guess they had updated it and wouldn't let you reinstall the old version. But you could update from the old version. Kinda pissed as I had purchased it and it seemed shady. So, I just rolled back my system time 5 years, reinstalled using my license, made the system time current and upgraded.

Both of you are not only wrong but I can't imagine either of you being super talented at whatever you do giving the limited way you think.
I guess it's not a surprise as it's the same limited way you think here.

basilico:
Correct time has nothing to do with a motherboard operation. The MB has its own clocking mechanism, eg when copying a file to drive , it will show you the time remaining. That's the MB clock system.

Not really what the clocking system is. You aren't even thinking of clocks in a high level programing language way not to talk about low level instruction set way.

basilico:
The correct date and time does not prevent the MB from doing its thing.
Display correct day and time are of course essential but not critical . A computer will still work

Incorrect, some programs rely on the correct date/time. Think back to y2k.
And again, when the computer is powered down, where does that clock signal come from?
So, explain how "Power on Schedule" works if the computer is off. If I want the computer to wake up at 4:20pm. How does the computer wake up without a clock signal?
And you are still thinking of a clock like a clock on the wall. The RTC uses an oscillator to create the clock signal and basically count to get the time.

Oga, go rest. You play with computers but you don't understand them.

bemeruca:
Remain envious. It is your cup of tea

What I picked up last month.
Definitely E-n-v-i-o-u-s.

bemeruca:
Ah, you should not give a Bleep, your bleeps are always envy.

Very envious of you hacking people's computers and pretending to live in the US.
So much envy.

bemeruca:
Nice story bro. You are jealous when you see something I did and you start to make lies you believe that I did not do it.

That's the same way IjeBos won't believe anything Raumdeuter does that is positive. He is quick to believe Raum when he says he tried a business that did not work out because that's a negative. Before now, I was talking about my phone. Why I got the s24u instead of the s10 with Ibim, You were here trying to discredit me or call me a liar.

Unlike you, when Coco said she had a Tesla, I never doubted her. When she posted an image of it, I told her it was a nice model x because I don't envy. i dont assume someone is not successful because they disagree with me about Trump or not.

For you, you are riddled with envy. I showed you my Macbook, PC, and tablet PC; you said I quickly borrowed it from friends. You are always looking for excuses.

Stay in one place. I know who I go at on this thread; almost always, they are the first to punch.

Keep your stories to yourself. Don't try to impress me. The last time you tried you were exposed.

Simply put, ur a liar.
I wouldn't believe a word you said if it came notarized.
You've got caught lying time and time again about big and small.
You're still here pretending you live in the US. Maybe your minds so rotted you can't even realize ur lying.

And fyi, it's 2025, nobody gives a shit about you trying to flex with a 2024 ultra

basilico:
BIOS has the PC time.. On older models and standalones that time will be indicated.
Otherwise you can set your PC to sync with a time server. A local time server that syncs with publicly available NTP servers syncs all your network devices.
On gateway routers depending on complexity , you can force every external time sync request to be served by the router.

You're still thinking of time in a basic way.
In the real world we use time to execute commands. It's not just to look at.
In 5 seconds, do this. etc. We can count it, feel it or look up at the clock.
The computer does as well.
On an aside, that's why we talk of processors in terms of frequency or clock speed or how many cycles it completes in a second (1/s).

Anyhow, there are still some functions a computer may want to execute when off, 1 basic one is keeping the time relatively updated so when you boot up shit will work.
Another is, you want to PC to wake up at a certain time. It needs to calculate when that time is.
If the Power is off, it can't do that.

The clock isn't just for showing you the time, but also for the computer to know when to do things.

Anyhow, I'm done with this convo.
Doing my mom's taxes and been distracted and you seem to have a hard time with a basic concept.