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What is the point of dragging this on. He can just stop using people's copyrighted material if they tell you to. As if these laws aren't well established.
He seems to respect noone.
Imagine this is a person who wants to be President.
He's a Chaos Agent. It's all exhausting.

Trump Pollster predicts a Harris Bounce after the convention.
https://politicalwire.com/2024/08/24/trump-pollsters-predict-convention-bump-for-harris/

raumdeuter:
When will Democratic Presidents too get their own Ivankas to push bills that will benefit families instead of excuses every time

The are levels of dishonesty in everything you write. It's as if you know how bullshit your support of Trump is so the only thing you can do is lie.

Senate approves Ivanka Trump-backed paid family leave for federal employees
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/ivanka-trump-federal-paid-family-leave/index.html

While paid leave has consistently had the support of Democratic lawmakers, supportive Republicans were harder to come by.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senate Democratic negotiators secured a tentative agreement for the National Defense Authorization Act to include a significant provision requiring 12 weeks of paid parental leave for all federal employees. A Republican source confirmed that paid leave would be included in the bill.

You are like most Republicans. You vote for Republicans who couldn't give a shit about you while trashing the Democrats who fight for you even when you fight against them.

bemeruca:
are you epileptic? are you discussing the border with Raudeuter? t[b]he border is not on the agenda of the Dems, isn't it?[/b] why are you pivoting to the border?

The border is not on the Dem agenda, yet the Dems tried to pass a Border bill while Biden was President and the Republicans blocked it.
This is the real world, not the make believe Republican world you live in.
You really are a dumbass.
Go away.

raumdeuter:
What was Biden able to pass through reconciliation?

Just excuses

You have got to be kidding right?
Have you not been paying attention to anything these last four years?
They usually pass one Budget reconciliation bill a year.

One year he used Budget Reconciliation to pass Build Back Better.

raumdeuter:
Imagine his dishonesty in trying to pass Manchin and Sinema as Independents

Angus King and Bernie Sanders were Independents caucusing with the Dems.
Anything else you want me to school you on?

IjeBos:
2.) Tell me a bill that was a Republican policy that they passed that wasn't a Democratic priority outside of using the reconciliation process. Don't bother looking as you won't find one.

But, my fault, I may have been wrong about you. Maybe you're not dishonest, you just don't know how the Congress works or Bills get passed.
Most likely it's a combo of both.

Still waiting for the answer to this. Trump's tax policy was passed using reconcilliation.

raumdeuter:
Trump with a razor thin Senate was able to pass his Tax cuts in 2017 but Democrats are still whining and complaining despite being the party in power for 12 of 16yrs

You're clearly used to talking to people who don't know what the fux they are talking about. Just like you don't.

1.) Trump passed his bill through a process called reconciliation. The Majority of legislation can't be passed that way.

Budget reconciliation is a parliamentary procedure in the United States Congress that allows for the quick passage of certain federal budget legislation in the Senate. The process was created by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 and has been used to enact laws since 1980, including the 2017 tax act.
Budget reconciliation allows for the consideration of bills that implement policies from a Congressional budget resolution. The process begins when the House and Senate Budget Committees include instructions in their annual budget resolution for other committees to develop legislation. This legislation can affect mandatory spending, revenues, or the debt limit.
[b]Reconciliation gives the Senate advantages for passing controversial budget and tax measures by overriding the Senate's filibuster rules. [/b]Reconciliation bills can pass the Senate with a simple majority of 51 votes, or 50 votes plus the vice president's tie-breaker. The scope of amendments is also limited.

If there is anything else you want me to school you on, let me know.

bemeruca:
tell us one time Democrats tried to pass such a thing and Republicans voted nay...

Let's do one big one that happened recently.
A bipartisan bill that was negotiated on by a very Conservative Republican Lankford.
The Republicans filibustered a bill they asked one of their most Conservative members to negotiate so the Dems couldn't pass it even though they hold the Senate majority.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/senate-democrats-immigration-border-bill

You're a joke of a person.
Continue posting Bullshit TikTok posts and lying about living in the US.

raumdeuter:
Did Republicans have 60 members in the Senate when they passed their policies into law?

One party is interested in policies and one is interested in whining every election cycle

1.) Ok, so tell me how Republicans passed any bill through a Dem Filibuster if they didn't have 60 Votes? Do you think the FIlibuster is a suggestion?

2.) Tell me a bill that was a Republican policy that they passed that wasn't a Democratic priority outside of using the reconciliation process. Don't bother looking as you won't find one.

But, my fault, I may have been wrong about you. Maybe you're not dishonest, you just don't know how the Congress works or Bills get passed.
Most likely it's a combo of both.

bemeruca:
tell us one time Democrats tried to pass such a thing and Republicans voted nay...

You are at the kiddie Liars table. Raum is barely above you.

raumdeuter:
How long were Republicans in control of Presidency Senate and Congress in the last 16yrs vs how much Democrats were

Yet they still whine and complain about not doing it

In 2021, Democrats controlled all level, why didn't they do it?

Because it's not their priority they just lie to electorate

Their priority is to win election and whine for the next 4yrs then blame the party not in power all over

Again, more posting dishonesty.
Can you make any point without being dishonest about it?

1.) In 2021, the Dems 'controlled' the Senate just because Kamala Harris in her capacity as Senate President was the tie breaker. It was a 50-50 Senate. Or 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats and 2 Independents who caucused with the Dems.
2.) There is a 60 vote threshold to break a filibuster. You pretend you don't know the filibuster exists. To fully control the Senate the Dems would have needed a 60 member majority.
60 votes because that is the threshold to pass a bill because that is the threshold to break a Republicans filibuster. As Republicans filibuster most bills. Hence the reason the Dems are being pushed to kill the filibuster.
So, no the Dems did not fully control the Senate in 2021.

But again you knew all this. You just chose to post what you did in some quest to 'appear' right.
Intellectual Dishonesty seems to be your calling card.
Again, if you can't defend you support of Republicans without being dishonest, you should really question that support.

You support things that Dems prioritize. Yet find reasons to lie about it so you can support Republicans who don't support the things you do. That some nasty work your mind is doing.

raumdeuter:
Democratic priorities yet Democrats were in power 12yrs in the last 16 and didn't do it

Democrats get to power and develop amnesia about their priorities until Trump admin signs it

Ok, so you admit they were Dem priorities. Good.
Now ask yourself why if there were Dem priorities and they controlled the White House for 12 of 16 years why it didn't get done.
Because they didn't fully Control the Congress.
So the Republican Congress who you support blocked these policies which you think are important. Yet you will stuff vote and propagandize for Republicans.

But you already knew that.
You really are a dishonest poster. You push a lot of sound bytes like "Democrats were in power 12yrs in the last 16 and didn't do it", when you 1.) know that it just means that there were Democratic Presidents in those 12 of 16 years.
2.) You already know that Congress is the only one who can pass Legislation and Democrats didn't fully control Congress.

Why do you chose the path of purposeful misinformation, propaganda and intellectually dishonestly?
Do you get paid to push these dishonest posts?
Cuz, I'm not sure why you would come on a discussion board just to be intellectually dishonest. It's clearly not to promote real discussion.
If your views were sufficiently defenseable, you wouldn't need to be dishonest to defend them.

This is what happened this year under a Dem President for a Dem Priority that you promoted in defense of having Trump elected.

Senate GOP blocks bipartisan bill to expand child tax credit
https://thehill.com/business/4805927-senate-republicans-block-child-tax-credit-bill/

raumdeuter:
He has kids and he can relate to having and raising kids and the challenges that come with raising kids. His kids are doing okay and they love him.

2 policies?

1. Child Tax Credit Expansion: The Tax Cuts 2017 doubled the child tax credit from $1,000 to $2,000 per child

2. In December 2019, Trump signed into law a measure that provided 12 weeks of paid parental leave for federal employees

This shit is kinda wild. The two policies you listed were Democratic priorities.
1.) The FMLA(Parental Leave) part was passed because Ivanka pushed it. Ivanka who won't be in the new administration. She got Republicans to agree to pass it.

Senate approves Ivanka Trump-backed paid family leave for federal employees
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/ivanka-trump-federal-paid-family-leave/index.html

2.) The Child Tax Credit increase again was a Dem priority. The extension passed the House and the Republicans killed it in the Senate.

It's like cognitive dissonance. You amp up Dem policy priorities that Republicans generally kill in support of electing Republicans. Just wild.

ono:
That guy wanted the folks to “first rate the speech from Kamala” - that’s the nail in the coffin for any right thinking person. No sane human being will base their decisions on speeches, but acts done.

Those brainwashed union workers came for the shit show. Just to have some fun.

Demonrats are panicking. Americans are wiser. They have seen the Obamas and their useless oratorial skills deliver nothing but problems and evil over the years. They surely don’t want a repeat with one comrade Kamala.

You've spent a lot of time propagandizing here. Try using your brain more instead.
If someone who is Undecided watched Harris's speech and then decided they wanted to vote for Trump, that should be evidence enough he/she is a plant. That was objectively a good speech. If you were undecided, at the most, if it didn't sway you to vote for her, you would stay undecided. That's what I thought when I first heard him say her speech made him decide to vote for Trump.

And quelle surprise, he indeed was a plant. If you had used your brain you would have figured that out as well.
You're an easily fooled person.

EnlightenedUFO:
Shut the hell up you piece of shit.
Why have you moved on from the staged assassination? You don't talk about it anymore? Maga cultist.

I do think it was an actual assassination attempt, but there is a lot of it that doesn't add up esp. with his ear.
It's also surprising the Media is not more interested in this story nor have they demanded the Doctor's report with the ferocity they wanted Biden's.

There is no way that ear looks like that even if a bullet grazed him. And no way he wore that big pad on his ear during the RNC for that.

My best guess is shrapnel from a bullet that hit a stanchion near the stage or the station itself that hit his ear (shrapnel hit other police officers there as well who had to be hospitalized) and he embellished the rest to get sympathy.

I think Wray's initial statement was correct and they backed down to say it was a bullet or bullet shrapnel when they got Political pressure. Harris needs to fire Wray.

EnlightenedUFO:
This maga propagandist calls these two weird sad men a anti-establishment ticket
😂😂

One is a KENNEDY while the other old doofus claims to be a billionaire.

And a ticket? Are they trying to kick shady Vance off?

These cultists are so desperate. 😁

They are deservant of each other.
Ask yourself, if RFK was more closely aligned with GOP why didn't he run in their primaries?
And if he wanted to run in the DNC because he believed in the Democratic Party. Why endorse a Republican?
Because he is Bullshit and it was Bullshit from the start.
Just more election manipulation from the Republicans who really don't believe in letting voters Vote.

happney65:
They are just modern day Northern Nigeria.

I really didn't understand this until a flight of mine was diverted to Abuja because of weather (can you imagine in another country an Airline being allowed to just drop you off in a Random place with no thought of getting you to your final destination), there was that Airline strike or whatever it was and so I had to charter a vehicle from Abuja to the East. I had never seen people living in mud(I think it was mud) built houses without windows or doors (had holes where both should be) before. It was a true eye opening experience.

It was similar with a drive I did from Mass to Florida. Going through states like W.VA, North Carolina and parts of FL, I had never seen poverty in the US like I did in some cities in those states. Another eye opening experience.

ono:
Like you have in crime ridden Chicago, fentanyl infested Seattle and San Francisco? Like you have illegal immigrant, rat infested areas in New York ? Like people who don’t know the difference between a man and woman ?

Did you read what he wrote"? Every state has those things. Republican states just have much much more of them that's why they are statistically the poorest, least educated, get the most welfare and have the lowest life expectancy.

basilico:
Ok I thought you meant your farm, you have a habit of having experienced every situation. The farm experience bothered me after raum et al being asked to raise and butcher their own fowls Then you came swooping in like superman to declare you already raise goats

I have a habit of being inquisitive, putting a premium on learning and growing, loving life, trying new things and thus living a life so far with a fullness of diverse experiences. So, when there is a situation that comes up, I hope I can speak to it with an understanding of empathy of someone's who's been there.

You should try it. It may free you from being "closed up in a dogmatic box ".

And diversify your circle. Maybe, you'll get some new experiences as well and will maybe understand how one person can both be Black American and Indian at the same time.

basilico:
So now you have a farm in America?
Do you get a permit to slaughter a goat?

I said this:

IjeBos:
I eat a lot of Goat meat. Post pandemic, in store prices were outrageous. Said, f it, I'll just kill a whole goat. Went to my farm and the guy doubled the price.

And you took from this that I have a farm and need a license to kill a goat? Rather than 'my farm' is the farm I go to regularly to buy goats and Cows?
Sometimes you should really think before you speak. Because you tend to sound like you have a problem with reading comprehension when you do speak.

basilico:
And you was brought up in church which made you a democrat because the bible preaches peace and freedom. Freedom to abort.Bible aligns more with the democrats than with conservative values. You must think we are idiots. The Vatican is a good example of a theocracy. The Vatican is liberal not conservative according to your Harvard logic.
Phillipines is mainly Catholic and should not be a conservative majority but a liberal one .
That reasoning is purely for the severely retarded.
You are beneath.

You should read the Bible, esp. the Gospel. You seem to not understand what Jesus preached.

John 13:34-35
New International Version
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

You seem to have also distilled the Bible to hate and judgment and believe somehow Abortion was the only thing Jesus talked about. It wasn't. In fact the word abortion isn't even in the Gospels. The one thing Jesus regularly spoke about you seem to fail in abundance.

As to the Catholic Church. This is what the Pope said about Conservatives.

Pope Francis has suggested that his conservative critics in the United States have a “suicidal attitude ,” in an interview with CBS News.

Asked about criticism from “conservative bishops” in the US who have opposed Francis’ more progressive papacy and efforts to reform the Catholic Church, the Pope paused on the word “conservative, ” saying a conservative is “one who clings to something and does not want to see beyond that. It is a suicidal attitude .”

There is an important difference between taking “tradition into account” and being “closed up inside a dogmatic box ,” Francis emphasized.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/pope-conservative-critics-suicidal-attitude-hnk-intl/index.html

You should think hard about the part about being 'closed up in a dogmatic box'.
But it seems, per your words, the Pope is severely retarded as well. I guess I'm in good company.

SpaceX:
Jealousy you say?? That's crazy!! Why will I be jealous of you? You don't stand for anything? You've been dragging issues all morning without saying anything!

My fault, I recognize the user name now.
You're that nut who posts all the nutty shit that Trump is ordained to be President.
I see you've even created your own thread dedicated to it.
Well done!

armyofone:
Lmao

I have a weakness for fine dining.

Trump preferred we all go to Mar-a-lago to do fine dining or dream it

Weakness huh? It can be an experience. Ambiance and all.
Lagos is coming up in that regard as well including the service part.

SpaceX:
The dude has no principles, na anywhere Belle face guy.

The jealousy is seeping through your post.
Did you think everyone on this forum was some backwards village boy like you.

armyofone:
No more sandwiches for you make your own.

Don't forget to raise your fowl and butcher it yourself.

No more roast beef footlong for raumdeuter too .

Back to 15th century - from cradle to table



$15 for footlong is high!
How much am I going to spend at Morton's, Ruth Chris, Flemings etc and other fine dining?

At these prices, I'm about to.
I eat a lot of Goat meat. Post pandemic, in store prices were outrageous. Said, f it, I'll just kill a whole goat. Went to my farm and the guy doubled the price.
Reminds me I need to go kill a goat and put it in my deep freezer for my siblings to raid..

But yeah, I've been seeing a lot more promotions from various places. Seems consumers are pushing back on the price gouging. I can see prices coming down in the near future.

For fine dining.. you gotta just close your eyes, esp. when your g/f and her two sisters come into town..

ono:
Bros, what has the Bible got to do with this ? I mean I’ve read a lot of the arguments about abortion.

You are talking about evil and morals, so I'd assume the basis would be the Bible esp. the Gospels. I grew up in the Church and that is what shaped my view of social justice and made me a Dem. The Dem party though imperfect is closer aligned to the Gospels than the Republicans. Even moreso now with Trump at the helm.

ono:
And of all I’ve read so far, raum’s views stand out. Balanced and well thought out. But we all know, except we want to lie to ourselves, that the vast majority of abortion cases in the US, in fact worldwide come from promiscuity, illicit sex, peer pressure, evil, and demon worship and sacrifice - all that you can think of that definitely does not edify, uplift or build one’s love for what’s good.

Only very very few abortion cases are related to unwanted pregnancies from rape, incest and the likes. Maybe 0.2%.


So, you ask yourself, at what point did America got it morally wrong that something sinister, evil and lewd, gory, vile and disturbing is what they’re now putting up for ballot. Can you imagine this?

As to Abortions, when you start talking about morality, you start talking about Religion. America isn't a Christian country. Our constitution specifically protects the free exercise of religion. We shouldn't be dictating to people what they can do with their bodies based on our own views of Religion. Do I wish there were less abortions, Yes. But, what I can do is try to make it easier for those who may want to keep the baby to do so. The rest is between them and God.

And I don't believe fundamental rights should be balanced. And I think bodily autonomy is a fundamental right. What else as a human should we have sole control over?

But, I guarantee if there was an instance where someone was trying to control your body you'd fight it tooth and nail. Your views are derived from the fact that you are misogynistic (that's what you basically proclaim in your quote below). You don't fundamentally believe women are your equal and have their place. I understand it, I see it alot in Nigeria. I also assume it also speaks to your support of Trump. But, I think that view is outdated.

ono:
Even the Lord God Himself said women should not be allowed to speak in His congregations. Women are not allowed to lead in churches - or even mosques for that matter.

Now this is me o, personally, I dislike it when women lead countries. Yes, some have proven to be good leaders and all, yet, I don’t like it. Not that at this point in the world there’s anything I can do about it anymore. It will take God himself coming down to earth to let humans know his desires - since His words have now been relegated to the background.

And say what you like, I will go with Vance, even though it will be good to know why the woman, Kamala does not have any child (adopted or biologically given birth to) in the first place. Yes, I’m “insensitive” “callous” “mean” etc etc. I don’t care.

States that will have Abortion on the Nov. Ballot.
I don't think the polling in these states is taking this into account.
• Arizona
• Colorado
• Florida
• Maryland
• Missouri
• Montana
• Nebraska*
• Nevada
• New York
• South Dakota

ono:
What I’m seeing playing out here is that in the quest to look “kind”, “appealing”, “accommodating”, “tolerating”, “welcoming” and “inclusive”, people are now basically dropping their standards of what’s acceptable, what’s normal and godly to take what’s entirely evil and foul to their side.

It can only end in disaster people. Nothing good can come out of this.

Remember is said this some time ago:

“Evil preaches tolerance until it becomes dominant and then turns around to denounce good”

Did you ever end up reading the Bible?

Inflation or Price gouging?

ono:
Useless views. It is these types of views that’s causing the terrible changes we see in societies in the US and the Western World in general. Your type should be castrated and locked up in a hell hole - with the keys thrown into the Pacific Ocean.

A decent article by the Federalist in the link below.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/23/everyone-is-better-off-when-people-make-marriage-and-family-a-priority/

Yes, so let's force people to get married and have children and arrest those who don't.
Maybe you can sit in their bedroom to make sure they are having sex so they can have kids. Where have I seen that before.
This is the Conservative Mindset.

budaatum:
Christian fundamentals are people. And I do believe you can see that I'd rather not have those imbeciles decide anything for me.

Unfortunately for Repuglicans, the United States is a democracy where the people do get to decide. And I can't wait to see them up their game and try to abolish democracy. Now, that would be a hoot.

And before you say it, I have seen what I would call evidence of some trying to abolish democracy already and turn USA into its own version of the Islamic Republic of Iran. And my response while facetious is full of wonder that some people could so ignorantly be turkeying for Christmas while some in Iran are trying to my body my choice.

The Trump's team plan is to turn the US into a Christian nation.
I appreciate the Constitution and the Founders desire to segregate religion.
I think that is what has made the US so successful. We aren't warring over people personal held religious beliefs as some other countries are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjdwsZhE_Q&t=84s

raumdeuter:
Moslems do not support abortion, why didnt you claim I am a Moslem?

All your write up on every topic are so infantile and silly. Almost everyone wonders where things went wrong with you

Are you a Muslim?

Everyone who discusses anything with you finds you exhausting.
You supplement bullshit for coherent thought.
And when you get called out on it you continue to Bullshit.

It's ok not to be the smartest person in the room. The goal should still be to learn as much as possible not defending indefensible positions and wearing people out in the process.