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Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:50pm On Jul 26, 2024
lexy2014:
Off point.

Who is the democratic candidate for the presidential election?
Are you broken? You keep repeating the same nonsense that is irrelevant.
Seem to broken to me.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:48pm On Jul 26, 2024
SonofElElyonRet:
When or if she emerges debate can hold. You are suggesting trump debates her now and if perchance she doesn't emerge trump then debates the eventual candidate? Better to wait till dems sort themselves out . Election still November
Huh?

He pulled out of the Sept. scheduled debate.
She would be the nominee at that point.
Why would he pull out of a scheduled debate that would happen when she is the nominee?
Think through it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:45pm On Jul 26, 2024
CaptainFM1:
Go down history and check, there's no time a substantive candidate ever debate a presumptive candidate.

The dates for debate are set bearing in mind the "status" of the candidates. The next presidential debate has been fixed for September 10.

The Democrat Convention comes up Aug19 - Aug 22. So it is expected that a substantive candidate would have emerged.

So you can see, the debate date are carefully set so that a substantive candidate will not have to waste his/her time debating a presumptive candidate.
Kamal will be nominated on Aug. 1st through a Voice Roll call vote. Because some Republican led states threatened to keep the Dem candidate off their ballot.
She will be then the official candidate Aug. 1st.
The debate Trump is pulling out of is in September when Kamala would have been the official nominee.

As I said, the debates are set well in advance when no candidate is "official". All the debates happen when they are. This would have been no exception.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:41pm On Jul 26, 2024
jayce232:
Pls keep quiet!
Is this the first time Trump is coming out for an election? He is already a US president. What rape nonsense are u blabbing about? How was he able to win the first election? Are u more sensible than all the Americans that voted for him? Nobody wants a disorganized America by putting her affairs in the hands of a woman that do not believe in natural & world order!
Trump barely won the first time and he only won because US elections aren't based on a Popular vote but through the electoral college. A system setup that gave smaller populated southern states more power.
More Americans voted for Clinton and Biden than Trump in both elections.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:39pm On Jul 26, 2024
lexy2014:
Off point.

Who is the democratic candidate for the presidential election?
Maybe you'll realize it's on point when you stop being a sycophant for someone so undeserving.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:37pm On Jul 26, 2024
femmy2010:
That is a wise decision by Trump
Is it a wise decision for the voters not to be able to hear the candidates together?
Is this something you think is healthy for a democracy?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:35pm On Jul 26, 2024
lexy2014:
Who is the democratic candidate for the presidential election?
Listen the Commission on Presidential debates used to schedule the debates.
This year the dates of the debates were scheduled in Nov 2023. There was no nominee then.
Trump chose not to use them this year.

It is a well established norm that debates are scheduled because there will be a nominee at some point.
And running for president is one of the most singular most important things in a person's life, so they shouldn't be busy that day.

Also, Trump said last week he would debate her. He also debated Biden who wasn't the nominee. Stop defending foolishness.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:33pm On Jul 26, 2024
timota:
Haris is not a candidate yet,the democrats can still change her as they did Biden,so let her be nominated first before a debate
Listen the Commission on Presidential debates use to schedule the debates.
This year the dates of the debates were scheduled in Nov 2023. There was no nominee then.
Trump chose not to use them this year.

It is a well established norm that debates are scheduled because there will be a nominee at some point.
And running for president is one of the most singular most important things in a person's life, so they shouldn't be busy that day.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:28pm On Jul 26, 2024
Alphiegabe:
Omo if you read niraland you will think Harris has won the election even BLM has rejected Harris. More Blacks are speaking out that Democrats do not stand for them. There is a serious division growing within the democrats. The core swing states are not supporting Harris. Really I don't care I might even prefer her but I am trying to say this victory runs displayed on nairaland is not the reality
No division.
Surge in energy, support and excitement.
She raised a record 80 Million Dollars in donations in 24 hours. Mostly from first time donors.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:27pm On Jul 26, 2024
SonofElElyonRet:
She's not yet the democratic candidate.. don't you get it ??
Debates used to be set almost a year in advance of the election date by the Commision on Presidential Debates.
There was never a nominee when the date of the debate was scheduled.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:24pm On Jul 26, 2024
Maj196:
Why would Trump debate her, when she's unofficially the Democrats candidate? Kamala you're fired
In past Presidential races, debates are set up almost a year in advance and the candidates just show up.
The debate was set for a date after Kamala would have been the nominee.

If you are determined to debate, does it matter who the nominee is in setting up a date.
Or would you be doing something better?
It's Trump's erosion of all democratic norms.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Mocked After Backing Out Of Kamala Harris Debate: 'scared' by ijebosb: 9:22pm On Jul 26, 2024
hybrid77:
Lol.. Are you guys now asking for a debate?

Trump isn't interested. You can share your intentions with the American people.

You can't be leading in a race and then lose ground over a poor debate performance.

Trump is simply ahead of the competition.
Huh? You know you've lost the plot when you are celebrating your candidate not wanting to debate.
Everyone should debate. Period.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 9:00pm On Jul 26, 2024
IMAliyu:
Already aware of her position on defund the police.
While I agree with her here, these are leftists positions. A question is on if the average voter agrees with her?
My guess is that the average voter is more likely to be against the "defund police" movement, as "defund the police" is a dumb name and bad optics for a movement, even if I agree with the positions.

So the Trump campaign has legit ammo on her here.
She's not wrong here and we as a American Society shouldn't be scared of reimagining what policing looks like.

I remember a black kid being shot in Boston after the family called looking for support for their mentally ill child. They called the police and the police came and shot and killed him. There should have been a better way to de escalate that situation.

Defund the police is an unfortunate slogan, but those who cared, have read about it and understand the meaning behind it.

The problem with MAGA is that they can't understand things longer than a slogan. So everything is just whether you agree with a slogan or not. So all the hard problems we have in the US can't be solved because they are more complex than can fit on a bumper sticker.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:46pm On Jul 26, 2024
budaatum:
While I'll willingly ignore you misspelling my moniker, I would rather you not misgender buda.



Thanks in advance.
Wasn't a purposeful misspelling.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 7:26pm On Jul 26, 2024
SpaceX:
what am I reading?? Obama made USA to loose its factories to china and Trump who believe in America first brought all these factories back. And here we have Biden taking all the credit. It's a shameful attitude. Party filled with crooks. May God save us from Demon-crats.
Show me a stat on any of this.
Don't look too hard you won't be able to find it as it doesn't exsit.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 7:25pm On Jul 26, 2024
basilico:
So no bullets were fired at him.
So, because a bullet was fired, it means he was hit?
Did you see him get hit?
Only idiots think like you.

basilico:
He lost 2 centimeters of his ear.
Show me the doctor's report (and Ronny Jackson isn't a licensed doctor and isn't the one who treated him)
Show me a pic of his ear that shows that.

This is what the FBI does. In order to write their report they have to have all the information. They would have already went over the crime scene. I'm assuming there is doubt because they've already mapped the trajectory of the bullets and the FBI thinks it may be implausible that Trump was hit by a bullet.

The question is why Trump hasn't already sat down for an interview and released his medical report to the Public.
And unless Trump saw the bullet, how would he know it was a bullet that hit him?

basilico:
Are you dumb, stupid, mongoloid, idiotic or all of the sbove
These are all things you should be asking yourself.
Might help you figure out why you are repeatedly and thoroughly fooled by the same nincompoops.

Fyi, I don't really care for your answer on any of these.
Just want to show you the questions my mind asks vs. yours.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 7:14pm On Jul 26, 2024
Amujale:
You aren't going to insult you way out of this one.

Receive sense into your viscera.

Are you going to answer my question?

Kamila herself said she was of East Indian origin, you are claiming she's African American.

Furthermore, you aren't aware of the East Indian culture, im aware of their culture and they completely claim their mothers side, it happens almost everytime.

That would mean that Kamala's dad would've identify as East Indian.

Now are you able to appreciate the absolute facts?

Therefore, you can cease all those false narratives and nonsensical slurs that you're emmiting here.

You are incorrect on so many levels.
Your writing is so forced.

I've answered you. Go reread my replies and think about them.
I'd like to believe you'll eventually get that "aha" moment,

You should go disturb Budatuum.
He is more patient with this stuff than I.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 4:59pm On Jul 26, 2024
AmazonTopaz:
White men are organising their zoom meeting too.
Zoom doh suffer this week.

Cc. 1stgenAmerican


https://x.com/MichaelSkolnik/status/1816813283979985037?s=19[/quote]The amount of excitement is insane.
Heard hotel rooms for inauguration are selling out already.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 4:57pm On Jul 26, 2024
Seems the FBI may have doubts if Trump was actually hit with the bullet.

The bureau has asked to interview Mr. Trump as part of its broader investigation, hoping to provide insights into the shooting and possibly a more complete record of his injury, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the continuing inquiry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/us/politics/fbi-bullet-trump-rally.html

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 2:26pm On Jul 26, 2024
Trump is scared to debate Kamala Harris.

He has pulled out of the debate scheduled for Sept. 10, saying it's because she isn't the nominee yet.
Harris will be the nominee Aug. 1
He also debated Biden who wasn't the nominee
In past elections the debate schedule would normally be set a year before the election date.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/us/politics/trump-harris-biden-debate.html

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 1:18pm On Jul 26, 2024
I don't think I've seen a more terrible Vice Presidential roll out than J.D Vance.
Trump is struggling with women and Vance says hold my beer.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HIeAoC08WmU

But, this is why Trump was and will be a terrible President. His inability to pick good staff.
He makes very poor staffing choices and because of how big the portfolio of a President is, a lot of the day to day running of the country is left to the staff you choose.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ijebosb: 12:59pm On Jul 26, 2024
reccy:
Explicitly okay. I get you now. I have reservations along the line but I need to rest now.
The posts he spammed were facially intellectually dishonest and that's being charitable. More, dishonest and gaslighting if anything.

Reservations?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 12:47pm On Jul 26, 2024
Amujale:
Since, you continue to claim that she is African American, then, why does she identify as being an East Indian descendant.
You sound like you've been deeply sheltered in your life and/or have never met anyone with a diverse background.
That's why you can't see why your question is ridiculous on its face.

I've tried to be more than patient with your insults because there seems to be something off with you based on how you write.
But, it's enough, cut it out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ijebosb: 12:24am On Jul 26, 2024
LordAdam16:
https://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Pennsylvania-Elected-Changed-America/dp/0316515736
Read this book.

You act like any of this is new.
Systems thrive when most participants excel.
Folks who are falling behind in a system would turn to whomever promises to right the ship or correct its course.

On the right, that is a populist like Trump who wants to deport every illegal immigrant.
On the left, it'll be a progressive like Bernie who wants to confiscate the wealth of anyone who earns more than 400K.

This is not the first time this is happening.
When King George raised taxes to unsustainable levels, the American colonies stumbled on the bright idea "no taxation without representation". That laid the foundation for the United States and the modern form of democracy you champion.
And we're near the same levels where the government levy taxes, the unelected bureaucrats do whatever they want like the Monarchy, and there's no way for the hoi polloi to force a change in direction.

You don't have to be a genius to realize this is unsustainable and that Trump's populism is a natural reaction to this rehashed set of circumstances.

You want people who have been coal or factory workers for years and have lost their jobs to outsourcing to just accept it.
Border communities should just accept millions of illegal immigrants streaming across the border when inflation is raging, there is a housing crisis, and infrastructure is failing.
Espousing that no one, literally no one has a legitimate reason to sign up for Trump's populism is the kind of haughty elitism that drives even more dislike for the privileged, coastal professionals and their "civil servant" enablers.
You are essentially waving a huge banner that says, "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR COST OF LIVING CRISIS OR YOUR LOST JOBS" Accept your condition or be labeled a racist, fascist, sexist, Islamophobe, deplorable.
That is not a winning argument. But winning hearts and minds doesn't matter anyway because you've got the unelected bureaucrats who would do whatever they like.
It is just clear, unfiltered, transparent classist disdain. The vast majority of minorities and immigrants adopt this position. And then you all wonder why natives detest your guts and want to shut the doors. Like you can't connect the dots.

-Lord
Post like this. geez.
It's as if you're speaking about some made up country. It's a total lack of understanding of the US.

1.) Do you even know what the top tax rate looked like historically?
2.) Who are these unelected bureaucrats that can do whatever they want

Wow

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ijebosb: 12:13am On Jul 26, 2024
A40:
A more intelligent question you should be asking is why and how the man was able to get there in the first place. How did an elevated place around where the ex President was speaking just so happened to be unmanned

Ask yourself why the SS did not supply Trump with more personnel as previously requested

Think and stop sounding like leftist sheep that initially thought the attack was staged. I'm sure you're one of those that thought this. Don't lie
The day the attempt was made secret service had already ramped up his detail because of another threat.
The story of him asking for more protection and not getting it is false.

Exclusive: Secret Service ramped up security after intel of Iran plot to assassinate Trump; no known connection to shooting
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/iran-plot-assassinate-trump-secret-service/index.html
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ijebosb: 10:42pm On Jul 25, 2024
reccy:
ijebosb, come and explain how this becomes 5 point swing!


my maths is not mathsing..... embarassed embarassed embarassed
So, this is what the 2020 chart looked like on 538. It's a poll of all the polls or in this case a char of all the polls. I generally check it daily.
When I look at it I don't care about the differentials, I look at what the raw numbers are to help find outliers in the polls or some dramatic shift in support.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ijebosb: 10:20pm On Jul 25, 2024
reccy:
ijebosb, come and explain how this becomes 5 point swing!


my maths is not mathsing..... embarassed embarassed embarassed
You should have let him own his answer.

The polls are from differing pollsters. Comparing them is hard to do, because each pollster has to develop their own profile of the voters(methodology). And because of that, the numbers that matter are the level of support for the candidate. You would like consistent support amongst all the polls and if you are constantly getting above 51% better. Like now all the polls are showing harris with consistent 40-42 ish support.

So how did we get here.

1.) LordAdam16 believed the poll showing Harris leading was Wrong though it was the most recent poll
His first argument was that the poll of Harris leading was wrong because there was an 8 point swing from a poll the day before. It's odd to compare two different polls that way. Normally you would compare a single poll taking from different days. Weird and not quite useful.

2.) He mistakenly believed the poll was taken the day after Biden dropped out because that was when it was released.
I pointed out that the 1st poll was taken from the 19th -21st. So one of the reasons the poll may show a "different" result, despite the fact that it has a different methodology is that it was taken after she became the official candidate even though it asked the same question. Biden dropped out the 21st in the afternoon. While the first poll was a 3 day rolling poll that ended the day Biden dropped out so most of the responses had already been locked in. The second poll was taken the day after when the information had more time to percolate, making the poll more representative of current opinion.

3.) Correcting him got him mad.
So after I corrected him, he got mad and started asking questions why the poll had an 8 point swing. Again, odd question given that 1.)2 seperate pollsters 2.) 1 was taken before and the 2nd after a huge campaign shakeup. So, being me I thought the best way was to show that polls from 2 different pollsters can swing from day to day. So I went and found such a poll. Now, as I explained, when I look at polls I look at level of support of each candidate, not difference in support between candidates. So, the swing was from 54-49 (5 point swing, which would be huge if it weren't two different pollsters). He made his argument about the numbers, I explained why I chose the poll, but even found more polls showing a swing the way he thought about it (difference in support between the two candidates). It's a silly thing. Polls change daily.

Anyhow, at this point we had gone far upfield of the point. And like most MAGA, the point is to pick something, lie about it to divert from the original point that he was wrong about the Poll of Harris leading.

Anyhow below are the old polls I chose to help explain to him that polls can change from day to day. Again, notice the two pollsters are different. Number 1 shows the numbers I used, Number 2 shows the numbers he is pretending I used. It's clear for anyone to see unless you are being dishonest. Now imagine if you were Biden's team looking through the polls. What would matter to you? To me it be trying to understand how my numbers dipped by 5 points in this poll and looking at the crosstabs and methodology to understand what happened.

I was pointing out that from one to another even on the same day the level of support can swing dramatically esp if they are differing polls.
I included the screenshot below to him multiple times.

Polls should in theory all tell you the same thing, measure the same thing.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 9:52pm On Jul 25, 2024
Amujale:
Not really, its you claiming she's African American when you know full well that she isnt.

Leading to the fact that on her watch, it will be more of the same, the unjust killing, maiming and outright discrimination of Black America, with the provocateur general supposedly at the helm?, No, ?
She is born of a Jamaican dad and Indian mother who immigrated to the US. There is no pure African American if that is what you are thinking. Every African American is or is a descendent of someone who immigrated here or was forced here from another country.

As to the identity, a person of mixed ancestry can choose which one to identify with or both. It's simple. She can choose to identify with the culture of her Jamaican, Indian or because she was raised in American as an African American or all three. Her choice. Her joining a black sorority says it all.

Black Americans are notrious about who the call their own. The fact there is a lot of excitement for her in the Black community says it all. Shit, Beyonce allowed her to use one of her songs. And good luck arguing with Beyonce and her supporters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHky_Xopyrw
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 9:05pm On Jul 25, 2024
Amujale:
All that is rhetoric.


Kindly answer my question.

If according to your rhetoric she's African American, then how is it that when she was sworn into the senate she identified as East Indian American?

And, why is it that if she is African American as you're claiming, its recorded in black and white that the House made a big thing about the first female of Indian descent being sworn in?
These questions sound like things you should be able to figure out if that is truly your intention.
Good Luck.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:52pm On Jul 25, 2024
Amujale:
Try again, her dad isnt that Jamaican.

You're obviously dealing in half-truths, here is the absolute facts and the truth, her dad himself is half Indian and half Jamaican.

She is NOT considered African American by any stretch of the imagination.

How is it that when she was sworn into the senate, she did so under her Indian ancenstry?

Let's face the facts, Kamila Haris is American with Indian and "partial" Jamaican roots, this makes her Indian American, it doesn't makr her African American.
So, she is no longer 100% Indian?
This is Kamala's dad.
Early life and education
Donald Jasper Harris was born in Brown's Town, St. Ann Parish, Jamaica, the son of Oscar Joseph Harris and Beryl Christie Harris (née Finegan),[7][8] who were African Jamaicans.[9][10] As a child, Harris learned the catechism, was baptized and confirmed in the Anglican Church, and served as an acolyte. Harris's grandmother told him that she was descended from Irish-born Hamilton Brown, who founded the local Anglican Church.[11] He grew up in the Orange Hill area of Saint Ann Parish, near Brown's Town[12][13] and graduated from Titchfield High School.[citation needed]
You can believe whatever you want to believe.
But while you believe that, Black Americans and the Black sorority she pledged when she was in College will be out in force for her.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:39pm On Jul 25, 2024
Amujale:
The African woman is God, aint suggesting the African woman created the Universe here, but that the Black woman is fundamental to all of human kind.

Secondly, Kamila Haris is neither Black[sic] nor identifies as Black or with the Black community.

She is 100% East Indian, Dravidian.

Granted that the current President of the US - Joe Biden has played an absolute stunner, using Kamila in this way, however, African Americans are politically literate and will easily see through the play.

Sources:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nina-simone-kamala-harris-estate-b1869486.html


Furthermore, perhaps you ought to pay more attention to policy rather than allowing our emotions to cloud our judgement.

Kamila Haris is an East Indian, a Dravidian, not a Black Woman.
This post. It's like you copied and pasted it from some Right Wing Blogger pretending to be black.

Her mom is Indian
Her dad is Jamaican

She is considered African American.
The African American community considers her African American.
Period
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 7:57pm On Jul 25, 2024
Amujale:
Nina Simone's family was defestated by Kamila Haris's stint as California' Attorney General.

In the said situation, the family of Nina Simone (more commonly known as "the high priestess of soul music", Nina Simone remains as one of the most iconic soul artist in the African American community)
were ruthlessly dispossessed by team Kamila, as they took away the most treasured assets that was meant to be passed over to her family and awarded it to Sony Music.
Do you have a link to anything about this? This post doesn't give a lot of information.

I did find this link
Seems more like someone was committing fraud.

Hopefully she has more proof of this than in this article otherwise she's not going to get a good reception, esp. using this to try to go after the maybe first Black Female Pres.

Ms Harris, who was California’s top prosecutor between 2011 and 2017, led a legal battle against the singer’s daughter, Lisa Simone Kelly, who was in charge of her late mother’s estate and charitable trust.

The state of California accused her in 2013 of “breaching her fiduciary duty,” alleging she used up to $2m from the funds, including a $1.5m deposit into her personal company, according to The Daily Beast.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nina-simone-kamala-harris-estate-b1869486.html

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