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MrBrownJay1:
stop showing how UNEDUCATED you are about this issues... Biden won the needed majority votes during the primaries, thus Biden became the presumptive democratic nominee (just like Trump is the presumptive republican nominee) and if you dont understand what a presumptive democratic/republican nominee is, then please ask me and i will educate you some more.

Kamala Harris is NOT the presumptive democratic nominee so therefore Trump has no reason to debate with her yet.

Trump backed out of the Sept. 10th debate. Sept. 10 is after Kamala would become the official nominee on Aug 1st.
Prior to this year, the debates were scheduled almost a year prior to the election.
In fact the Commission on Presidential debates scheduled this election years debates in Nov. 2023. Trump chose not to use them.
So, please explain, why Trump would back out of a debate with Kamala that would be held after she had been chosen as the official nominee.

There is no explanation. He has chosen to be a coward as he did in the Primary when he didn't debate.

IMAliyu2:
It's interesting, how a lot of Americans, including conservatives are not necessarily against progressive positions, but are conditioned to stop engagement when they hear certain words and phrases associated with progressive movements.

Yeah, I hope JD Vance is a big spoiler for Trump.

If you told them most progressive positions and told them Trump supported it they'd support it in a heartbeat.
That's why it's so easy to get them to vote against their own interests.

IMAliyu:
Already aware of her position on defund the police.
While I agree with her here, these are leftists positions. A question is on if the average voter agrees with her?
My guess is that the average voter is more likely to be against the "defund police" movement, as "defund the police" is a dumb name and bad optics for a movement, even if I agree with the positions.

So the Trump campaign has legit ammo on her here.

Seems JD Vance, while not calling to defund the police, shared the same sentiment about changes needing to be made to policing.
Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/jd-vance-emails-transgender-classmate-highlights.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-U0.5qxQ.eG7nR_NDR88y&smid=url-share

Vance is a monumentally terrible pick. An own goal. Who vetted him.

kkins25:
Don't democrats equally Manupulate people when they oppse Isreal actions with one mouth and claim Isreal has right to defend itself with another?

Anyway, we only have to pick the lesser evil. Whats evil is left for us to define.

C'mon.

Trump could have taken the goodwill he garnered for almost being shot. Probably was a graze, but he was almost shot. He could have released his medical reports and called it a day.
But he does what he always does. He lies. Exaggerates and Manipulates.
And so, now, instead of basking in goodwill people will be doubly questioning his story and will be reminded of what they despised about his presidency. The constant chaos, lying and self inflicted wounds.

bemeruca:
Hezbollah targets multiple Israeli children playing football.

Israel should unleash their mayhem on Lebanon

<<Bemeruca's life>>
Let me wake up and scroll through all the sites to find out what's going on in the Middle East (A place I don't live)
Let me take that news and post in a the US politics thread (A place I don't live).

Real talk though, what is the connection between you and most of the stuff you post here?

Picture 1: Trump at the RNC a week ago
Picture 2: Trump yesterday

As always Trump takes every opportunity to manipulate people even wearing Kotex on his ear during the RNC to make the injury look more dramatic.

I do believe Trump was shot at. I do think something hit him. I'm not sure whether he was hit with a bullet or shrapnel (bullet fragment) and neither is the FBI.
I also believe he lied about the severity of his wound.
But everything that comes out of his mouth is basically a lie.

bemeruca:
You are a vintage idiot you know?

Does it matter even if its a shrapnel?

What do facts matter? Like posting pics of Canada and saying it's the US.. what does it matter? Lol

Trump's ear over a week period. For Trump, every and anything presents an opportunity to manipulate people.

Ojiofor:
The next foru years belongs to Trump better get use to it now o.
The war in Ukraine and Middle East have to stop the Dems are incapable of doing that instead they are busy pouring petrol into the blazing fire.

And how do you think Trump will stop the war in Ukraine or the Middle East?
Did you register to vote yet?

Ojiofor:
Biden have tried his bit and Democrats are in agreement he is unfit to continue and he stepped aside that is honourable thing for him to do.I wish African leaders can follow such example.Biden's domestic performance is not that bad but for foreign policy his administration fücked up more especially in Ukraine.The world need a new direction.

Agreed. Given up power for a greater good was honourable.
Biden's been effective as he could have been outside of the Middle east. The problem is that there are certain world leaders that were emboldened when Trump was in office and feel they can wait it out and hope Trump is in office again which would make it worse. Harris would continue most of the policies but may be more centered in her approach to the Middle East.

Trump leads the way he lives his life. Chaotically. We already saw it once.

dragunov:
That is your reason for supporting the mad fellow. Stop capping. I just exposed you and said things as they are.

Outside the fact that I'm a US citizen and a black person and so would rather not live in a US where racism is normalized?
Tribalism just like racism makes you stupid. Don't be stupid.

Ojiofor:
Sleepy Joe was the consensus candidate of demcrats before he was forced to step aside after receiving beating from Trump in their first round debate .

Consensus candidate? A nominee is only a nominee when elected by the Democratic delegates which generally happens at the Convention but will happen by a voice roll call vote this year.

And you should download the debate, Trump didn't beat Biden. Biden beat himself. Trump was still as trash as he always is. Look at that trash convention speech he gave.

That's why he is scared of Kamala. Biden didn't push back on his lies in that debate, part of the reason I was comfortable with him being replaced. Kamala will and will embarrass him.

Arostar2023:
Life isn't all about migrating to the USA or Europe. If the "powers that be" support us in electing credible leaders, the japa syndrome will reduce. American Presidents have huge influence on our elections in Africa. A no-nonsense leaders like Trump is good for a world that is full of power hungry and morally bankrupt despots. Above all, "faith" is everything...all evangelical Christians should support Trump, for obvious reasons.

Why should all evangelical Christians support Trump? List the reasons you think any Christian should support a man like Trump.
In fact, I think No real Christian would support Trump.

Ojiofor:
You sleepy Joe?

If you look at Metrics and not posts by randos you find on twitter, Biden is doing an amazing Job for the US.
It's odd people forget where the US was 4 years ago.
Maybe it's the mind protecting us from trauma.

dragunov:
In the US, presidential elections are not based on party vs party alone but on one personality vs another. He is going to debate Harris because that is part of their process. But of course, he can't. Go and listen to his latest speech. He has gone misogynist and racist just to rile up his white supporters. Yet, black mooks like you think if he becomes president, he will come and help you install Hoebee and free Kanu and give you Biafla.

You destroy your post with all your tribalism.
You say he's gone misogynist and racist and in the same post you go full on tribalist.

LordAdam16:
FBI finally confirms Trump was struck by a bullet fired from the deceased shooter's gun. [F*ck Wray BTW].
-Lord

This is what the FBI said.

“What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle,” the agency said in a statement.

So yes. If by bullet you also mean a 'bullet fragmented into smaller pieces' which in other terms would be called shrapnel your statement would be correct.

Or in other terms it was the same and not divergent from his original statement.

“I think with respect to former President Trump there’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that, you know, hit his ear.” Wray

MAGA and their emotional processing of information.

bemeruca:
Who writes in bold 100% of the time?
I don't know what is wrong with that guy.

Wait. Wait.
You. Mr. I like to hack other nairalanders and post pictures of Canada pretending I am in the US? That you is opening his mouth? Lol.
Go sleep.
You are not a well person.

AmazonTopaz:
Hotel what?
The election has not even been held.

Yeah, read an article on it.
Speaks to the excitement.
But, I wouldn't jinx it.
I think people are trying to get a jump on the ball.
And with the frats and soros, I can only imagine the parties that are going to happen.

CaptainFM1:
It's better to leave your delusion state of knowing everything. Infact, I agree with everything you said Mr Know-All.

The fact that remains is Republicans won't debate a presumptive candidate.

They should find a different way to do a "mock-test" internally with all their presumptive candidates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L605CL1LyWw

I don't understand your support of Trump but you don't have to argue any nonsense he does.
He could have kept that date in Sept. 10. There will be a nominee then. And all candidates should debate. Good for democracy.
Anyhow, enjoy the night.
Pax.

Mintum:
Who was he supposed to debate in this year's primaries? There was none because their was literally no contest, it was over before it started. Same reason Biden didn't debate anyone in this year's democratic party primaries, there was simply no contest and nothing to debate about.

Really?

Mintum:
You don't even see the total contradiction in your understanding of what you just posted? A deadline for confirming your candidate for the Ohio ballot was pushed to sept 1. How does that imply that the law is a new bill that will only become a law on September 1? The law was already a legally binding law in Ohio, it was only amended to extend the deadline for filing your candidate for the Ohio ballot. Lol, it isn't a new law that will come into effect in future, it's a law already effective, amended by the legislature and the amendment signed by the governor, there's nothing making it not effective until September 1

Laws only get amended by creating a new law that amends it.
Lol.
Anyhow, going to grab dinner.

Hopefully you'll be able to get out of the pretzel you twisted yourself into.

Mintum:
There's nothing there that I don't know already, there's nothing in the rules that makes her a presumptive nominee. The only thing that would have made her such is if she won the primary votes needed to become the nominee. And again I say it doesn't even matter, Trump has already said he is going to debate her multiple times If she's the candidate of the democratic party so what's all the noise about? Let the Dems do their bit and elect her then they can come for the debates if they want. It's really funny that you guys believe that a Donald Trump that has debated multiple candidates in republican primaries, debated Hilary Clinton multiple times, debated Biden multiple times is scared of Kamala. Trump is scared of Kamala that couldn't dominate a docile politician like Mike Pence? Kamala that Tulsi Gabbard literally destroyed in a debate? Lmao😂😂😂

You got a PHD in the DNC rules, some they just drafted this week. Well done. lol
You mean the Donald Trump that didn't debate in this year's Republican primaries?
Go sit down.

Mintum:
You're talking absolute nonsense, the law has already been signed into law by Gov. DeWine. It's the law of the state of Ohio as we speak.

Wrong again. How many times is that now?
You should go rest now.

While Ohio Republicans passed a law that pushed that deadline to Sept. 1, because it does not go into effect until Sept. 1, DNC officials cited potential litigation from Republican groups as a reason to go ahead with the early virtual roll call vote.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-campaign-dnc-virtual-roll-call/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=520850060

CaptainFM1:
You should rest.... Honestly, take some break. I've read through the entire thread on this article, and I've seen that you're a robot in human form going by the speed and time you have replying every single messages.

And to generally insult people...you would say Nigerians....I suppose that the tag name for people that disagree with your stand point.
I guess everyone that comment on this platform are Nigerians anyway....hence the generalisation.

Rest and when you reply to me next, it'll be helpful to know what you are talking about before talking about it.
Look through the thread. Most of it was me correcting your misinformation that you kept repeating. If you read your posts and knowing what you know now, do you realize how much of what you wrote was nonsense?

You should thank me, you're smarter for this interaction. Now you can talk more in the know.

Fyi, it's easy for me to reply as I know this stuff.

Mintum:
Ohio was the only state who's laws threatened to keep the dem candidate off the ballot but the state Congress which is led by republicans by the way have voted to rectify that and there's no threat of that happening anymore. Please look for another excuse, this one no follow.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna154752

Lol. Seems you've got a PHD in something I told you about and you googled 5 minutes ago.

Ohio pushed the deadline till Sept 1st. But the law in which they pushed it back goes into effect Sept 1st. So, that looks like a litigation trap to me.
In the past this used to just be waived to allow the parties to have their conventions whenever they saw fit.

Mintum:
You're very wrong, she isn't a presumptive nominee, Biden's victory at the primaries is what made him a presumptive nominee. You don't become a presumptive nominee by 'word of mouth' endorsements by "delegates". There's nothing legally, officially or legitimately making her a presumptive nominee right now. It's even irrelevant because Trump has said he is ready to have multiple debates with her if she becomes the nominee of the democratic party so why not go do your part and elect her as the candidate then let her come for the debate?

Listen, here are the Democratic Delegate Rules.
https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2024

Read them, let me know you've read them, then we can discuss.
Pax.

CaptainFM1:
My fingers are tired with your back and forth. I should leave you with it now.

What happens to Nigerians?

I find this alot when I land in Naij.
People will argue things they have 0 idea about forever as if they hold a PHD in it.
It's exhausting.

I've given you multiple articles to read and you're still repeating the same falsehood.

CaptainFM1:
Don't get it wrong. The right word to use is endorse, not nominate.

And in any case, they can do anything within their party as you said earlier, but the formal nomination will still have to happen at the convention.

See it like this...."You've been dating and courting a lady for 10yrs. Infact, you've had children together and living together. No matter what you do will pronounce you two as husband and wife. That's the power of formal expression.

That's why I said, the right word remains "endorse" until convention.

Listen, I am telling you. I am in the know. You are not telling me how to see it.
You are learning this on the fly by me, trying to explain to me what it is. Chai.
Nigerians sometimes.

The formal nomination will happen before the convention. They are doing it because some Republican states were threatening to keep them off the ballot if they didn't do it early. Ohio set the date for Aug. 7th.

Here is a good source.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-campaign-dnc-virtual-roll-call/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=520850060

Mintum:
Biden won the democratic party primaries and was literally the candidate of the party elected by the vast majority of the democratic party supporters. Kamala is none of that, she didn't win any primaries and she can only be seen as the candidate when delegates vote for her at the convention. That many party elites endorse you doesn't guarantee that you'll get the votes of delegates. So let the Dems go make her candidacy official then they can come for a debate, trump has already said he is willing to have multiple debates with Kamala Harris if she's the candidate so you guys should stop your gaslighting.

Wrong again.

Delegates to the election are selected by the number of votes during the primary. The delegates Biden won, pledged their support to the Biden. They can change their vote. Kamala reached out to them and she got enough of Biden pledged delegates to pledge to support her. She is just as much the presumptive nominee as Biden was.

The US system is quirky, but it is what it is.

CaptainFM1:
I will respond to your No.2)
From all I could gather, the Republicans are ready to debate only a substantive candidate and that's after the Dems have held their convention.

Holding a roll call is not the same thing as the main convention. The point here is why asking for a debate ahead of their convention.

Another thing to note is that even in a scheduled debate anyone can pull out if they so wish. But in this case, the Republicans have only hinged their participation in debate on condition that the Dems formally choose their candidate.

Actually you are wrong.
The main thing is officially electing the nominee.
That is done when the delegates vote. The delegates will vote for Harris on the roll call vote on Aug. 1st instead of the convention this year.
The convention is just window dressing. If it doesn't happen it wouldn't matter.

You are writing all of this to deflect from the fact that Trump won't commit to scheduling a debate in Sept. after the Dem. nominee is selected. Think that through.

Mintum:
Stop telling blatant lies, Trump didn't abort any debate with Harris because none was ever agreed to in the first place. He has said he is willing to have more than one debate with Kamala Harris but that will be only after she is confirmed to be the democratic party candidate.

Why can't he set the date now and if it's not Harris debate whoever it is?
In fact the Sept. 10th date is after the nominee is chosen.
What's the impediment. Does he think there will never be a Democratic nominee?

You're defending foolishness.

lexy2014:
I don't need all this irrelevant grammar.

The first words is all I need.

Can you show me the argument you are referring to?

That irrelevant grammar you are referring to is called an argument.
You should sit with it, it may make you more informed.

lexy2014:
How is his defending Trump the same thing as throwing his credibility away?

How is the dates he gave different from the date on your screenshot?

You are just Bs'ing repeating the same thing.
He keeps reposting things that are objectively false.

If he can't defend his position, he should do what you are doing.