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1stGenAmerican:
You didn’t ask me but I’ll answer—-NOT.

Lol. I think mostly everyone knew that the moment he posted them. Lol.

Trump is going to be nervous after this interview.
They spent such a good amount of time setting a low bar for her and she easily stepped over it.

bemeruca:
What does this mean: "mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time."

We all know you have a hard time with the English language. Read it slowly, and use your fingers if that helps. Or put it into the same ChatGPT that you used to use to write your posts and tell it to translate it to something a 5th grader would understand.

You mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time. We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act. We have set goals for the United States of America, and by extension, the globe, around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, as an example. That value has not changed."

basilico:
CNN interview Kamala and Tim.

Kamala ....."mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time."

WTF she means!

Might be helpful if the TikTok video you got this from gave you the whole quote.

You mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time. We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act. We have set goals for the United States of America, and by extension, the globe, around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, as an example. That value has not changed."

Kamala is doing a great job.. so far. Great contrast between Trump.
I like that Walz has barely spoken, and when he was clear and confident.
Good interview so far.
Israel/Palestine question was a lil weak. She needs more practice there. Surprised she wasn't better there.

basilico:
Fool. He shoulda known the Taliban was waiting them.out. There was specific intelligence. Instead he pulls troops out in the dead of the night , without telling the afghan counterparts. Thid killed their morale and the afghan army collapsed suddenly after being abandoned.

This is gibberish, you sound like you have no idea of what happened in Afghanistan

basilico:
13 marines plus over 200 afghans dead over a hasty withdrawal and Biden should be praised for only the dead 13 unlike Trump 65. You must be joking , are you?

Yes, 13 troops died. Anytime a soldier dies is a tragedy. But, they are troops, there to fulfill missions in dangerous places. If you are this angry about those 13 troops you may want to check out how many troops died in Afghanistan and Iraq.
It's clear your rage is manufactured. That's why 13 troops who died under Biden seem to matter more to you than the 65 who died under Trump.

bemeruca:
Kamala 👇

"He even called for the termination of the United States Supreme c... The, the, the Supreme land of our nation, the United States Constitution."

This woman is worse than Biden 😂

You are not a serious person.
You are trumping a person who talks like he constantly has a concussion.
And all your posts read like a Bot wrote them in Russian and then a child translated them to English.
Have you figured out how to conjugate verbs yet?

You of all people should really stfu about anyone else making a linguistic slip.

SpaceX:
Going by the population and military presence at that time it's disingenuous of you to compare Trump and Biden term in office. Biden came in when the military withdrawal was in full effect meaning they were less troops and didn't engage in any combat so obviously less casualties.

That is exactly the point. Biden came in after Trump had negotiated a military withdrawal reducing the US troop force. Biden had to either add more troops to resist the Taliban or continue to withdraw. He chose to withdraw. 13 Soldiers died. All loss of life is terrible but that would have paled in comparison to the loss of life if Biden would have added more troops to continue fighting a 20 year war. Loss of life is terrible, but that is also the nature of war. People monday morning quarterback as if they are comparing to a perfect scenario. 65 soldiers died under Trump, 13 under Biden. If you look back on it, no matter how bad it looked in the moment, it was a good decision calculated by loss of life and the billions of US dollars spent.

But again, when has Trump visited the graves of any of the 65 soldiers who died under his watch? And why do you think some soldiers deaths matter more than others?

July 24 — At a rally in Phoenix, Trump again boasts, “I started the move out of Afghanistan,” adding “I think it was impossible for him [Biden] to stop it, but it was a much different deal.”
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

SpaceX:
Ad hominem at its finest totally ignore the message, that how weak beings move.

Was there a message there?
You sound like a crazy person in the middle at the street howling at the moon.

bemeruca:
You are an idiot.

Tell me is this the US or not?

basilico:
What were the troops doing in Afghanistan. Helping the farmers grow opium or fighting the Taliban? You ask kindergarten questions.

Again, show me when Trump went to the graves of the 65 soldiers who died in his administration during their anniversaries.
What makes the 13 soldiers different than the 65 who died in Afghanistan when he was president?

SpaceX:
Hold on dictator, you are full of lies and deceit didn't you see what zuckerberg release few days ago? Is that not election interference?

Suppressing information like a dictator? Can we all now agree that the Democrats party stand for dictatorship style of government?

Simmer down and take your meds. You're inner crazy is peeking out again.

basilico:
Retard. The family invited him, they wanted him there.

The family does not own Arlington. They have to follow the rules just like everyone else.
They also do not speak for the other's buried there. That is the purpose of the Arlington rules.
They took a picture with a gravestone of someone whose family did not consent to that.
Then he took the video and made a campaign ad out of it.

basilico:
It's you blaming trump for the deaths of 65 when they was an active conflict.
Biden foolishly with his Generals fuqqed up the withdrawal,
Your crappy media can never report this
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/marine-in-kabul-airport-blast-says-he-was-told-not-to-shoot-isis-bomber/

Heads should have rolled.

When did the active conflict stop in Afghanistan? Lol. Cognitive dissonance huh?
In Trump's time in office 65 Troops died in Afghanistan.
In Biden's office 13 troops lost their lives so they could leave Afghanistan so that no more troops would die.
65-13 is a win any day of the week.

And again, when did Trump go to the graves at the anniversary of those Troops that died?
Did Trump explain what those troops died for who died under his watch when he decided to surrender and pull troops out?

basilico:
Twas a war zone with armed combatants duking it out.
You can't compare the two, and for you to bring up that line shows how shallow your reasoning is.

Lol. What an answer. Lol.
I wasn't sure there were two different Afghanistan's on the map and wasn't sure war zones were characterized differently. Lol.
The depths Trumpers go through to rationalize their cognitive dissonance

So there were 13 deaths in Afghanistan in Bidens 4 years vs. 65 deaths in Afghanistan in Trump's 4 years.
Seems like Biden had the better policy.
And btw did Trump ever go to anniversary of the 65 soldiers that died in Afghanistan under his watch?

bemeruca:
Can you keep his daughters out your fuqing mouth?

Mr. tough guy.
I'm sure you follow the rule of keeping people's family out of your mouth.. Lol.
Rules for thee but not for me.

reccy:
ijebosb


hammedreccy4@gmail.com.

Please let me know when you see this so that I can delete it.

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reccy:
ijebosb

Boss, I want to talk to you. It's private sir

Hey, don't have access to the emails on these accounts.
And nairaland won't let me change them.

Konkoja:
These guys shamefully consume and believe all manner of nonsense from right wing, white nationalist nutters.

Honestly, reading the posts on this forum has left me more pessimistic of Nigeria being a governable country.
As you said too many posters believing all manner of nonsense and conspiracy theories.
And too many people treating politics as a team sport, supporting all manner of nonsense (racism, corruption) from their candidate, as long as they think it helps 'their' candidate/team win.
I would assume that given what is going on now in Nigeria, people would have opened their eyes about the danger of this team view of politics.

LordAdam16:
They said Trump was scared of a debate.
So he agreed to a date one week earlier than the previously scheduled Sep 11 debate hours after Kamala clinches the nomination.

If she blows that as she likely will with her word salad.
There will be no recovery.

We got a live audience on FOX.

-Lord

This sounds so sycophantic.

LordAdam16:
Powell will be railroaded into cutting rates before the election.
Economic indicators are very, very important in election years.
They did not push out Biden only for Powell to poison the well.
He will cut the rate or he'll be forced out with a scandal or something.

-Lord

Lol. You're a conspiracy nut. Even forming conspiracies for a country an ocean away on every and anything.
You're one step up from Basilico.
Hunger is strangling people's minds in Nigeria.

This was a week ago.

LordAdam16:
THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT 24 HOURS APART.

Explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing?
EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS!
-Lord

Now that all the polls are showing the same trend.
Did you figure out that polls can change from day to day even though they are asking the same question, especially after an event like a President dropping out of a race?
Lol

LordAdam16:
You'll have to go to the US Politics thread and follow the conversations we had on the topic.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4261#131112144

Ask the same question on that thread if you wish and I'd answer you.
I'm not going to let him litter this thread with his nonsense. He'll feel inclined to do the same elsewhere.
On this thread, I'll persistently respond to anything related to him with prepared, canned responses.

-Lord

Hey, did you ever stop running away and answer this question?

MrBrownJay1:
A) although Trump is today the favorite to win the election, i fully support Kamala Harris.... but i certainly wont be a yeye fool claiming ARRANT NONSENSE online.



B) is kamala Harris the democratic nominee? you people keep writing yeye rubbish online. again sept 10 debate was confirmed as Biden vs Trump (and nobody else) because they were the presumptive nominees. today we have to wait until the 1st of August to know if Kamala Harris will be chosen as the democratic nominee, and only then should Trump agree to debate with her. in what deluded world you guys live in that Trump must accept to debate with Kamala Harris while she is not even chosen by her party (yet) as presidential candidate?!



C) are you that stupid that you cant even see that the list you posted says the debate is on the 16th not the 10th...do you know why?! simply because 4 general election debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) were originally scheduled to be held between September 16 and October 9, 2024. both Biden and Trump were against the CPD's debate format and schedule. in May 2024, both campaigns agreed to bypass the CPD and hold the alternative debates (between Trump and Biden), canceling the CPD debates.
... and since Biden resigned from running again, there are NO CANDIDATE for the dems presently therefore Trump doesnt have to agree to debate with anybody. as soon as KH is nominated then Trump will agree to debate with her, duh!
this is the normal electoral process... again, this is Donald Trump statement:"I refuse to commit to any debates until after Kamala Harris (or anybody else) is nominated at convention"... pretty clear and simple.



run along and crawl back in your cave, you are ignorant and uneducated on the subject and keep writing yeye rubbish online. you people are so deluded you are making this a Trump vs Kamala Harris issue, while its a COMMON SENSE ISSUE! you people are so deluded, you even think i support Trump, while i support Kamala Harris fully, but i certainly wont do so while writing yeye ignorant rubbish online (that would make me just as foolish as some of Trump supporters aka the biggest hypocrite)

Your whole argument relies on some silly belief that candidates HAVE to wait for an official nominee before scheduling a debate.
Where does that come from?

The logic is flawed and stupid, surprisingly you keep repeating it as if you can't see it's flawed and stupid. Well, maybe it's not surprising.

That has never been the case. Debates have been scheduled at least a year in advance since 1988 by the Commision on Presidential Debates..
The dates are usually set very early and when the parties selected their nominees, they just showed up on the scheduled date.

You seem like the type to like to argue silly intellectually dishonest points when you are wrong just because you can't admit you are wrong.
Don't have patience for that nonsense.
Kill the insults. Don't make this an education debate or intelligence one, you'll objectively lose on both.
Pax

LordAdam16:
How is 12 - 10 = 5, f**l?
How is saying 12 - 10 is not 5 right wing propaganda, m*ron?

THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT 24 HOURS APART.

Explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing, pinh**d?
EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS!

-Lord

Seems like someone really really doesn't understand polling.

This poll ASKED THE SAME QUESTION(lol) and surprise surprise, this poll isn't too far off (Harris has a 1 point lead) from that poll that changed by EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS taken 24 hours after Biden dropped out that you kept talking(spamming) about.

Hopefully you've learned something.

Housing:
He is known for not been upright

Nice euphemism.

MrBrownJay1:
AGAIN, until Kamala Harris becomes the democratic nominee, Trump doesnt have to agree to debate with anyone. the sept 10 debate was scheduled to be against BIDEN not Kamala Harris... so Trump has all the rights to bow out of a debate that was supposed to be against Biden. ultimately, Trump will have to debate with Kamala Harris sooner or later, so no big deal here

You sound like you're auditioning for his cult.

Does what you are writing makes sense to you?
If he has to debate Harris anyway, why bow out of a debate he already planned on being at if Harris agreed to that time?
What sense does that make?
And Again, debates are set almost a year in advance before there are any nominees.
It's ok to be wrong. Obfuscating doesn't change your wrongness.

Below were the dates the Commission of Presidential Debates set before there were any nominees. Normally what happens every election cycle as it takes time to set up venues etc.

LordAdam16:
That was an empty threat.
No American President will cut support for Israel while they're at war.

In addition, Biden is not seeking re-election.
Harris should kiss Michigan good bye if Netanyahu makes good on his threat to prosecute an all-out war against Lebanon.
That'll also make Minnesota a toss-up.

Trump's son-in-law is Lebanese Christian, so there's a limit to what can be permitted in a war against Lebanon regardless of who wins the election.

-Lord

bemeruca:
War does not work like this

Lol.. Bemeruca is partially right (for once). The US doesn't work that way and wouldn't work that even under Trump.

Damn, you even have Bemeruca correcting the faux-intellectual fluff your posts consist of. That should tell you something.

MrBrownJay1:
stop showing how UNEDUCATED you are about this issues... Biden won the needed majority votes during the primaries, thus Biden became the presumptive democratic nominee (just like Trump is the presumptive republican nominee) and if you dont understand what a presumptive democratic/republican nominee is, then please ask me and i will educate you some more.

Kamala Harris is NOT the presumptive democratic nominee so therefore Trump has no reason to debate with her yet.

Trump backed out of the Sept. 10th debate. Sept. 10 is after Kamala would become the official nominee on Aug 1st.
Prior to this year, the debates were scheduled almost a year prior to the election.
In fact the Commission on Presidential debates scheduled this election years debates in Nov. 2023. Trump chose not to use them.
So, please explain, why Trump would back out of a debate with Kamala that would be held after she had been chosen as the official nominee.

There is no explanation. He has chosen to be a coward as he did in the Primary when he didn't debate.

IMAliyu2:
It's interesting, how a lot of Americans, including conservatives are not necessarily against progressive positions, but are conditioned to stop engagement when they hear certain words and phrases associated with progressive movements.

Yeah, I hope JD Vance is a big spoiler for Trump.

If you told them most progressive positions and told them Trump supported it they'd support it in a heartbeat.
That's why it's so easy to get them to vote against their own interests.

IMAliyu:
Already aware of her position on defund the police.
While I agree with her here, these are leftists positions. A question is on if the average voter agrees with her?
My guess is that the average voter is more likely to be against the "defund police" movement, as "defund the police" is a dumb name and bad optics for a movement, even if I agree with the positions.

So the Trump campaign has legit ammo on her here.

Seems JD Vance, while not calling to defund the police, shared the same sentiment about changes needing to be made to policing.
Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/jd-vance-emails-transgender-classmate-highlights.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-U0.5qxQ.eG7nR_NDR88y&smid=url-share

Vance is a monumentally terrible pick. An own goal. Who vetted him.

kkins25:
Don't democrats equally Manupulate people when they oppse Isreal actions with one mouth and claim Isreal has right to defend itself with another?

Anyway, we only have to pick the lesser evil. Whats evil is left for us to define.

C'mon.

Trump could have taken the goodwill he garnered for almost being shot. Probably was a graze, but he was almost shot. He could have released his medical reports and called it a day.
But he does what he always does. He lies. Exaggerates and Manipulates.
And so, now, instead of basking in goodwill people will be doubly questioning his story and will be reminded of what they despised about his presidency. The constant chaos, lying and self inflicted wounds.