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Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 6:23am On Jul 27, 2023
samsard:
I'd be more interested in ensuring kids speak many languages fluently than focus solely on English. Some parents apply the same logic even with their own languages.
If kids read well enough, sometimes watch TV programmes in proper English & use it adequately in the right contexts, it'll definitely help them master English & each language with minimal language interference.
Yeah sure

In Linguistics, there's Underground structure and surface structure

Now speaking many Languages is not bad, infact you don't have to be educated to be bilingual(speaking) but writing and speaking is a different thing, u have to learn that at a school

In language interference, while you may speak or use 2 or more languagess correctly, there are always instants where u will unknowingly transfer properties/attributes of one language to another, like concepts

In English Language, there are names for degrees of rainfall and there are particular verbs attached to them. You have drizzle, rain, shower, storm etc, in some other languages, rain is rain no matter the degree

Such a speaker of Language B now who speaks English may always refer to any rainfall as rain no matter the degree...

Now to Pidgin, it's worse because it doesn't follow any convention, everybody can have their own version of it, what's acceptable and understandable here might be strange to another speaker... It is not a language, it's just a corrupted version of a standard language but it serves a purpose, it is used for communication, Most importantly when u have a standard language speaker and a illiterate, they may still communicate, thanks to Pidgin.

In Niger Delta, pidgin is almost a Creole
Politics › Re: Niger Republic Doesn't Even Respect Tinubu by illicit(m): 5:32am On Jul 27, 2023
No nah

He should try to restore order in the east first

Charity begins at home
Christianity Etc › Re: One Against Many by illicit(m): 10:50pm On Jul 26, 2023
Every wrong doing is a sin but not all sins leads to death

Bible ( I don forget d chapter)
Romance › Re: Am I The Only One That Has This Gift? by illicit(m): 10:48pm On Jul 26, 2023
This one no be like gift Sha

E be like curse

shocked
Family › Re: How Old And How Many Generation Is Your Surname? by illicit(m): 10:39pm On Jul 26, 2023
It's my Grandfather's given name, I will give my children my father's

My children will give their children mine...

Probably
Family › Re: What I Noticed About My Uncle's Child by illicit(m): 9:22pm On Jul 26, 2023
That boy will hate u sha
Nairaland General › Re: Burna Boy Visit Jamaica Reggae Icon Sizzle Kalonji(photo) by illicit(m): 9:19pm On Jul 26, 2023
I don't miss smoking Igbo

lipsrsealed
Romance › Re: Alice In Yonderland (Friction) by illicit(op): 8:54pm On Jul 26, 2023
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Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 8:47pm On Jul 26, 2023
samsard:
Most of my cousins speak pristine English when they want and they still speak pidgin fluently. This is nothing but faux elitism. We are capable of speaking more than one language properly.
Yeah sure

There are always exceptions to every norms or situations

There's something called Language interference, it's a whole course in Linguistics

I am a Linguist
Music/Radio › Re: Where Is This Beautiful Gospel Musician Now? - Pictures by illicit(m): 8:45pm On Jul 26, 2023
She and her cousin parted ways

They went under
Food › Re: Food: Whose Place Would You Visit? by illicit(m): 8:34pm On Jul 26, 2023
mariahAngel:
Na tropical fried rice be that.
One recipe I have no interest in trying out. Ever! grin
Oh my

D thing no dey appealing at all at all

Make she just serve me diced pineapples sef
Music/Radio › Re: Jaye Lo: You Owe No Apology To Muslims, Soyinka Defends Davido by illicit(m): 8:33pm On Jul 26, 2023
Bimpe29:
Abi you don't understand his kind of English that's really different from the one you are teaching grin cheesy 😜
Lol

U got me hahahaha

grin
Celebrities › Re: Singer Sinead O'Connor Dead At 56 Years by illicit(m): 8:32pm On Jul 26, 2023
Eeyah

Never heard of her
Food › Re: Food: Whose Place Would You Visit? by illicit(m): 8:24pm On Jul 26, 2023
mariahAngel:
Table shaker. Hahaha



I considered visiting bestie, but that inlaws' obe ata was just to tantalizing to give up. undecided
Omo iya mi

U no lie

But wetin be dat thing wey spouse cook, na pineapple wey dey rotten be dat ni huh
Romance › Re: How She Went Missing After Lying To Her Parents. Ladies Please Be Careful. by illicit(m): 8:08pm On Jul 26, 2023
shocked
Food › Re: Food: Whose Place Would You Visit? by illicit(m):
My bestie o

Inlaw food be like sacrifice shocked
Crime › Re: OAU MBA Student Death, 12 More Facts Emerge by illicit(m): 7:24pm On Jul 26, 2023
Packagerz howfar nah

Why are u lying that Hilton hotel is just 2 years

Hilton that I have known as far back as 2011
Education › Re: Oduduwa University Admission 2023/2024: Full-time Undergraduate Programmes by illicit(m): 7:16pm On Jul 26, 2023
SAMUEL1947:
Adedoyin😏🏃🏃🏃
Lol run o
Crime › Re: Nigerian Army Revealed Why Soldier Preaching In Calabar Was Detained by illicit(m): 6:53pm On Jul 26, 2023
PTSD
Crime › Re: Nigerian Army Revealed Why Soldier Preaching In Calabar Was Detained by illicit(m): 6:53pm On Jul 26, 2023
ahnie:
Meanwhile earlier this here I saw an aged soldier that was preaching the gospel to some young rascally men...I was impressed.



Few hours later I saw baba agba inside bet naija staking bets .
Maybe he has bn possessed by belzebub that time
grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
U say huh
Celebrities › Re: Davido And Wizkid Meets by illicit(m): 4:04pm On Jul 26, 2023
Wizkid no be anybody papa mate

cool
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 3:38pm On Jul 26, 2023
reiddecuti:
The earlier we adopt pigin English as our official English the better for us. Rather than going round the circle f00ling ourselves trying to please our masters.

We can regulate and standardize it.


Just like South Africa, Australia, Canada and even US have their own English version.
Sorry to say

That's not pidgin

That is South African English
Australian English
Canadian English
American English ...

We have Nigerian English as well, it is different to Pidgin

Pidgin still differs to Creole
Christianity Etc › Re: “Any Girl Who Asks You For Transport Money Is A Useless Girl” – Pastor Mildred by illicit(m): 3:03pm On Jul 26, 2023
Candidlady:
Hmmmm




While broke men are the problem of this world... Rubbish
U no need transport fare nah

Na insolent girls dem dey talk about
Christianity Etc › Re: “Any Girl Who Asks You For Transport Money Is A Useless Girl” – Pastor Mildred by illicit(m): 3:01pm On Jul 26, 2023
saphiere:
Any man who invites a lady to his house and does not provide transportation fare is more useless than the lady who asks for transportation money. Why would you initiate a visit if you are not ready to take the responsibility?
If u invite me to your house, will u pay my transport?
Music/Radio › Re: Jaye Lo: You Owe No Apology To Muslims, Soyinka Defends Davido by illicit(m): 1:37pm On Jul 26, 2023
ignis:
You should not teach English then, I think English should teach you.
I swear

grin
Politics › Re: Emefiele: DSS Action A Dent On Govt, Punish Operatives – Fayose To Tinubu by illicit(m): 9:11am On Jul 26, 2023
Speak for yourself Mr
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 7:27am On Jul 26, 2023
kokoBoii:
I speak pidgin and I didn't have to go to any school to know how to read and write it.. grin
Lol grin

Pidgin English is a phenomenon

No standard Alphabet, spellings, tenses

It's hard to put down for universal usage
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m):
kokoBoii:
Which is absolutely not necessarily
You may speak pidgin or Yoruba, that doesn't mean you can automatically read it or write with it

You still have to learn about it
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 7:21am On Jul 26, 2023
kokoBoii:
Been taught in indigenous languages doesn't make sense because we are one country and pidgin English is the language that we all speak in Nigeria irrespective of region. That means someone who speaks Igbo would have to be restricted to going to Igbo schools...That would have made more sense if we were not a single country.
Do you realize that pidgin English has varieties

Hausa man own different to Warri o

Yeah

So actually, in China where Mandarin is the official language, not every Chinese speaks Mandarin as a native tongue, u will have to learn it at school

U don't have to be taught in a language u already know, Education is all about learning
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m):
kokoBoii:
Our official language is English, but we still have to be taught our official language in schools..
Yes

L1s (Native/mother tongues) speaking might be acquired without going to school

But u have to be schooled to learn to read and write it

That's why Nigerian Languages are taught at schools
Family › Re: Why Do Nigerian Parents See Pidgin English As "Bad English"? by illicit(m): 7:13am On Jul 26, 2023
In China, they don't teach them in pidgin too

U could have advocated for being taught in Indigenous language

Pidgin English is colloquial English

Why the parents and teachers frown at it is because it affects your proper English Language Learning and usage

I am a Linguist

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