₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
But you said the god CANNOT lie, not will not lie. One is about ability and the other is about the will. You will not poo even though you can.

Maybe you should come for the OP because I am merely responding to what they said so you can't be blaming me for what you call childish sense.

Yes, i used it to explain the absurdity since you asked for what stopped God seeing He has "unlimited authority to lie".

MarketForces:
Why are you fidgeting already. Patriotic Nigerians are contesting to lead the country out of which one will be elected but your myopia makes you to assume that people supporting other candidates HATE NIGERIA. If you are not high on osogbo weed, then you have mental disorder.

Can you say in all honesty that the newspaper claim you are disputing in advance is false? Abi the video of Remi insulting a section of the country is also doctored? We know those who believe in Nigeria. We know those who leave their regions to invest in EVERY PART OF NIGERIA.

We know those who are have not even a barber's shop outside of their regions and Abuja. The true lovers of Nigeria are those whose investment are everywhere, not one entitled drug pusher who wants the presidency as a life ambition and a retirement plan.

Lols, agree to simple agreement, you are writing story. i am steps ahead of you and know all your tiny moves. So again, we agree to both believe our newspaper evidence right? You bring yours, i bring mine, we both believe.
Only a misguided youth ho has not been around will spew the rubbish you put up there. All the major tribes in Nigeria have big and small businessmen, women, educationists etc all over the country. The boy who has never been outside his room thinks his father's farm is the biggest in the world. bulaba.

jaephoenix:
… and you wanna engage a critic without facts?
Don't you see how bizarre it sounds?
Anybody can make any claims. If i tell you I wings, you won't believe me. So I don't understand your reason for not providing evidence

i don't give such luxury to armchair critics, i am not at the mercy of silly arguments. If you want evidence, come out and get it.

onuman:
You think that Nigerians were not seeing aides holding Tinubu against possible fall all through his presidential campaign?
Stop deceiving yourself.
Tinubu never originated the idea of Nigeria's presidential candidates going to London's Chatham House. Even Buhari did then.

Oh my, not that. It is open knowledge that Tinubu had a knee surgery. That is not sickness, anyone can break a bone. You'll see him with more of such precautions in climbing. i am talking of doing the duties and rigours of leadership, which are more of meetings, decision making, intelligence, addressing issues.
Tinubu was the first amongst the presidential candidates to go to Chattham, others copied him. i also mentioned other things. The point still remains that Tinubu is more original and imaginative, innovative, flexible and knowledgeable than the other candidates so far. He is miles ahead.

onuman:
Tinubu is now as good as a man drained by old age and related sicknesses that are obvious even to a child.
Methinks, in your calculus, you will vote Tinubu even if he is dead to preside over you, and by extension, the rest of us, in Nigeria, than vote a vibrant, young and most qualified presidential candidate, Peter Obi, all because of the ethno-religious bigotry running in your veins. Think twice, my friend.

Tell me what makes Tinubu sick or not vibrant, and what makes a 66 or so year old Obi young?
Tinubu has attended to a more rigorous schedule faithfully and successfully last year and so far, this year. Is there any point his health has critically disappointed so far? Is it bag of rice they want to go and be carrying in Aso Rock or making brilliant and critical decisions in our favor?
So far, so good, Tinubu's so called drained and dead ideas have been copied without shame by Obi.
Tinubu was first to go to Chatham, first to shun debates and use Townhalls instead, first to use a place holder, first to talk of recruiting Nigerians into the military, and so forth.

What sort of trash is this? Every low pay factory worker stands for about 12hrs to work. Is this a criteria for leadership? Are you people unfortunate or what?

Lamidi Kanu go tey for that place, i trust Buhari for this one. Except e wan use am for election runs package.

So this fraud lambarian went to read paper in Chatham house after his blind nzogbu supporters had epileptic seizures because Tinubu used a teleprompter. Hypocrites.

Ogbon sodiki 😂 using PMB's legacy to campaign.

I thought Peter Obi said he went to Egypt to understudy their power system; how come he is talking about Buhari's Siemens deal as his only plan for power generation at Chatham House? Obidients I need your responses. pic.twitter.com/zwLtJ0bsfo

— Rashwal Rashwal (@RashwalRashwal) January 16, 2023

So this fraud lambarian went to read paper in Chatham house after his blind nzogbu supporters had epileptic seizures because Tinubu used a teleprompter. Hypocrites.

Ogbon sodiki 😂 using PMB's legacy to campaign.

I thought Peter Obi said he went to Egypt to understudy their power system; how come he is talking about Buhari's Siemens deal as his only plan for power generation at Chatham House? Obidients I need your responses. pic.twitter.com/zwLtJ0bsfo

— Rashwal Rashwal (@RashwalRashwal) January 16, 2023

onuman:
Give Lagos State to a novice as governor, he will perform better than the governors of other states, considering the huge Internally Generated Revenue of Lagos State.
No Lagos State governor in history has been accused of bad performance, in comparison to the governors of other states.

Indeed. Novices like governors of SEast states, Delta state governors, Bayelsa governors and maybe even Buhari ba? What have those governors done with the huge money they received? Who is chiefly responsible for the HUGE IGR of Lagos in the first place?
Asides Lagos state been a former capital and center of sorts how many remember a single thing folks like Adekunle Lawal, Ndubuisi Kanu, Ebitu Ukiwe, Gbolahan Mudasiru, Mike Akhigbe, Raji Rasaki, Michael Otedola or Olagunsoye Oyinlola did in or for Lagos. i guess you never even heard some of those names. But we know Jakande, Mobolaji, Marwa and co, right?
Tinubu moved IGR from 600million to 8billion. That is 1,333% increase. Guy please leave story. That's legendary.

MarketForces:
Do you want evidence?

Yeah, and we agree to both believe our newspaper evidence right? You bring yours, i bring mine, we both believe.

HardMirror:
hehehe. As if tinubu no sabi spv too. Lol

Let's wait for the proof na, not hearsay. We all see and know Tinubu's vision, strategy and brilliance. Same is very hard to say for Atiku.

Okay, so Obi says that there is nothing wrong with borrowing and that every government he knows borrows.
He also repeats the lie that Anambra has not given him pure water(whatever that means) since. He was given the platform of the government house to declare his intention to run for president.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ny3X5jMImg

https://www.channelstv.com/2022/03/24/peter-obi-declares-to-run-for-president-in-2023/


https://twitter.com/CCSoludo/status/1592265994474754048?t=m0yw0u8uYqviBdKa7rrtaQ&s=19

MarketForces:
So Tinubu that doesn't believe in ONE NIGERIA is now the standard measurement for loving Nigeria? You be mumu

Stop lying to yourself.

HardMirror:
abeg leave obi supporters out of this. We know obi is going no where. My question is, is tinubu a saint? I will choose atiku over tinubu a 1000 times. Hope you know the carnage tinubu boys have been reported to cause in lagos? It is an open secret. That is the man you are supporting. If you know lagos you know how things run and how some criminals have been empowered

All of them are crooks, i have said it repeatedly. But Tinubu has a plan and vision. It is clear in how Lagos runs and makes progress ahead of the others. i will take a Lagos progress all over Nigeria than a visionless Atiku who is very good at SPVs.

Teeroyzimma:
Why are you guys so wicked? Isn't 8 years of suffering enough? Why do you want a man that is not physically strong to rule over a country that is currently in a critical condition, is that not insanity? Forget his past achievements, his physical health is the most important factor when it comes to ruling a nation especially with a country that is populous like ours. Abeg you in the name of God please vote wisely and put tribal sentiments aside.

Nigeria has been suffering for as long as i can remember, not just 8 years. It was suffering that made people demand for change in 2015 if you are old enough to remember. The past/current government did very badly in economy. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala predicted it and was already having headache just to pay salaries. Couple that with Covid 19 and the current global inflation and Russia/Ukraine crises, it was much expected though poorly managed. It is not a time to vote for party or religion or tribe but for competence and track record. i want to believe that if you have an automobile or expensive machine, you hand the repairs and maintenance to a competent and well renowed company and person with track record, not to your prayer warrior religious brother or to your village mate. Nigeria is more important than any automobile or machine and cannot be handed over based on trivialities and hearsay.
Tinubu has engaged in a more rigorous campaign than any of the other candidates. For the past two months, he has followed his campaign timetable as diligently as possible, appearing in public, speaking and discussing openly without any major problem. Vote in wisdom, vote in 1st class, vote in originality and fearlessness. What will he profit a man if he can run around the stadium and cannot call black black, and then make foolish decisions like choosing Okupe who had a fraud case in court as firstly placeholder and then Director General. Then go ahead to pick someone from another party who was contesting for electoral position in another party. He was busy making foolishly uncalculated decisions renting stadiums for rally without any plan, until they later gave him sense. Government is not a one man show or test laboratory. The people who Obi has around him show that this man wants to take us backward if not split Nigeria for worse.

Abdulgaffar22:
Yes, you get it right ; I wanted to assist you.
But we don't even know who invited him to have a say in this post. Of course we're not discussing whether God exist or not. He is a strong atheist whom I had a debate with long time ago. He was not ready to consider any evidence for God's existence no matter how strong the evidence might be and for that reason I have determined not to have any dialogue with him again. But I didn't forget to tell him that when we meet face to face on the day of resurrection, he will agree me that he has allowed his prejudice to overshadow his faculty of reasoning

He's going to heaven, i am praying for him and his family are. Well done brother.

For where? Obi's supporters will prefer this SPV man be president than Tinubu. Why, because they don't love Nigeria, they are PDPlite.

LordReed:
If the god has unlimited authority then what is stopping the god from lying? He has unlimited authority to lie by definition!

BTW Abdulgaffar22 also provided you with a definition of omnipotence why aren't you responding to that?

He does not need to lie. You see sin as an opportunity while God sees it different. It's like me having all the authority to eat my poo and even no one will know, but it is so gross you know.
i did not come here for the OP, you know that na. And he doesn't seem to have issues with what i said, instead he seems to want to help me.

jaephoenix:
Exactly the response I almost always get from theists who claim to witness supernatural events. No evidence!

Great, means more theists are wiser than engaging armchair critics.

LordReed:
The people who believe that there is such a thing have defined it as the unlimited power to do anything.

Lols, at least good of you. You don't have any example of omnipotence and you cannot define it. Omnipotence is primarily a christian language. So at least, give the Bible its privilege to define it. i cannot tell you that my name or son's name is Musa and you keep arguing with me that my name or son's name is not Musa. Is it your name? BTW, Merriem Webster tells us that Omnipotent is Almighty or having unlimited authority. It is not really the childish sense many unbelievers want to think of it like, omnipotent can do everything, so cannot is not omnipotent. God as God cannot lie, God cannot die, God cannot sin. Yet He is omnipotent. Always get and retain the biblical context and content.

Copy copy. Atiku and Obi clearly copying Tinubu like those guys in my school days that used to stretch their necks to try copying the brilliant ones. Tinubu is indeed ASIWAJU the pace-setter. Obi will try to book appointment here after his London brigde is falling down sight seeing.

How come many people are not talking about AtikuGate. If it was Tinubu, every PDP and PDPlite will have been seriously wailing and gnashing teeth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGd-zpUF9Tk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQGSfZmvxo&t=9s

The naanu crooner, no go disgrace Nigeria again oh.

Obidient4life3:
Tinubu urchins and their stupidity! What has Tinubu said about Yoruba nation agitators? Hmm? Clowns!

Who are the yoruba nation agitators? Nobody knows them because they are nobodies. There's absolutely no need so far for Tinubu to talk about them or give them publicity. The 'ignore' tactics is better in this case. For example, there's a time Obi was so irrelevant that Tinubu would not even mention him or allow people around him mention him.
Yoruba nation agitators are well under check and balance. They are not keeping the Southwest in any kind of bondage or restraint. They are not killing anyone or destroying police stations, soldiers or legislators. You should be old enough to know your left from your right i hope?

LordReed:
I have not claimed anything is omnipotent so I have no reason to provide any examples.

Hehehehe, lolz. Okay, define omnipotence. Or, who defines omnipotence?

Obidient4life3:
You will wait and quench... Northern governors invite bandits for tea with military men taking photo sessions with them. You hypocrites will turn a blind eye. Then you want him to comment on a group sponsored by politicians!

Lol, ipobic boys and their toxicity. Wetin concern quench or die with simple questions. We're only waiting till election results na, Obi again becomes irrelevant after election results.
Is Tinubu a northern governor? Which northern governor, not to mention governors did you see having tea with bandits? So ipob is sponsored by politicians, how do you know this again? Do you believe Boko haram and bandits are sponsored or not? So you mean Obi should only comment if criminals are not sponsored or what are you saying?

https://twitter.com/DeeOneAyekooto/status/1614153092580233220?t=ArxuXgOaPJVGb1QY0jHsPA&s=19


Grassroots mobilization of PVCs going on for Obi SMH. When they say it's in the bag, check the bag.

Tinubu: Where are you from?
Reply: Abia State
Tinubu: God bless all of you.

When the JAGABAN was building new Lagos and making Dividends of Democracy available to Lagosians, it doesn’t matter where you came from. pic.twitter.com/8SvvMkrA5l

— Ayekooto (@DeeOneAyekooto) January 14, 2023

Tinubu: Where are you from?
Man: Abia state.
Tinubu: God bless all of you.

The above was from when Tinubu was governor and gave benefits to everyone Nigerian without discrimination.

tk4radi:
It is against the Electoral Act to use masquerades for campaign.


Labour Party..
Una Don dey do another thing ooo.

https://dailypost.ng/2022/08/09/2023-masquerades-not-allowed-to-attend-political-campaigns/

They like to copy that's why. i think they saw a masquerade coming to welcome Tinubu in Enugu airport or so. Same way they copied Tinubu Townhall meeting to augment their rallies.

julaion:
I will even burn you alive if I have the chance,cos you are not worth living

Woww

HardMirror:
i dont just want to share personal pictures because i took pictures of myself at the campaign. The turn out was terribly poor only for me to get to nairaland and see many topics claiming that the osogbo campaign was massive. Too many lies here

Showing again that Obi and his gang, Yesufu, Datti and the others are the same politicians as others. Politicians lie with a straight face like everything is perfect.

LordReed:
Argument from the poisoned well that shoots itself in the foot. We shouldn't trust our brains except its the same brain you use to suppose a god so how do you trust there is a god? Useless argument.

This is cyclical you know, you have a spirit. For with the heart/spirit, man believes.