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Politics › Re: Ahead Of Peter Obi Presidential Rally, Kaduna LP Stakeholders Hold Meeting by Image123(m): 3:21pm On Jan 17, 2023
Mufasa27:
Wet dream
cheesy cheesy More like lazy dreams.
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op): 3:09pm On Jan 17, 2023
DSC7:
Yes he is the same Obi do your worst.....


We will vote for him and he will rule over you and your generations whether you like it or not......



As una think say na only una get craze we go cure una craze this time around.....


We will take back Nigeria by fire by force through ObiDatti and if you try to stop the movement, you will have yourself to Blame....


Anyhow una want the matter to be we are ready....
Don't let us post your picture on NL after you are caught by the authorities for criminal behaviour oh. Be wise, shun madness. Buhari has no tolerance for madness from the South unfortunately.
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op): 3:07pm On Jan 17, 2023
CallmeTrinity:
You want my attention so badly don't you?
Pathetic.
No, i think you should not be deceived.
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op): 3:03pm On Jan 17, 2023
CallmeTrinity:
Okay I think I get your comment now. You mean it's miserable hence wants some engagement to fight it's crushing depression? I concur grin

But hey hey... You are quite nice looking... How long have you been married ? Lucky guy
This fellow just made jokes about my English and Grammar and then showed he could not understand a simple/common idiom by his comrade, lol
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op):
Just like today, Obi gave a lot of utopia promises and we will do it statements to Anambra but failed significantly.

Here was a January 2010 analysis of Obi's first term. Second term was worse BTW.

[url=https://saharareporters.com/2010/01/25/analysis-governor-peter-obi%E2%80%99s-blueprint]An Analysis of Governor Peter Obi’s Blueprint[/url]

Just after assuming office in March 2006, Governor Obi in April of the same year announced his economic and developmental blue print for Anambra state. Details of this blueprint were published and announced nationally in both the electronic and print media. Highlights of this blueprint as published on-line by This Day newspaper of Tuesday, May 02, 2006 are presented below: -
• Massive improvement in the states Internally Generated Revenue (IGR).
• Restoring quality and functional education across board.
• Institution of overseas scholarship for indigenes of the state to study Medicine, Engineering and Financial Management.
• Recruitment of Chinese farmers (within 3 months from April 2006) to kick-start the state’s cassava revolution.

• Massive construction of roads across the state.
• Construction of boreholes in 44 selected towns yearly from May 2006.
• Rehabilitation of water schemes in Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi.
• Massive clean up, reconstruction and urbanisation of Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi via the establishment of Urban Development Councils (UDC).
• Establishment of 20 industries before March 2010.
• Reconstruction of all buildings and infrastructure damaged by the Andy Uba sponsored November 10-12, 2004 mayhem by May 2007.

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There were mixed feelings across board as to how this blueprint will impact on the development of the state and its effect on the indigenes. Some school of thought saw the blueprint as the catalyst the state needed to move forward but some more enlightened school of thought saw the document for what it was: A low-level piece of document put together by amateurs and not worth the paper it was written on. The later, I belonged to and infact published an article in This Day newspaper of May, 2006 and online in nigeriaworld.com describing the blueprint as a document borne out of “Analogue thought process in a digital age”. Time has proven me right.

Governor Obi has been in office for over forty months now and it is high time to score him using his blueprint as an index to do just that. He developed the blueprint I must emphasize. It is his own document and not an inherited piece.

Within one month in office without recourse to verifiable facts, data and other matrices, Governor Obi’s boast: “To improve the revenue of his government via massive improvement in Internally Generated Revenue (IGR)” is a massive flop as evidenced by the states over dependence on federal allocation. Again no publication anywhere to date has shown any increase in IGR. A visit to the states slapdash website under the caption “Summary of Achievements” attests to this fact.

Rudimentary trading and not sound education has been Governor Obi’s stock in trade so his swank on: “Restoring quality and functional education across board” was a mere paper exercise for a visit to his old school, Christ the King College (CKC), Onitsha and other schools in the state such as Boys High School, Nnobi, Community Secondary School, Obosi, Girls Secondary School, Ukpor to name a few, show a failed education system in Anambra state.

The Anambra State University of Science and Technology, Uli is a laughing stock to say the least. The vice chancellor was in the news some months ago pleading for money to buy a generator; to provide electricity for a university of science and technology. How can science and technology be taught without electricity? Yet Governor Obi’s administration is spending millions of naira building sports complexes, stock exchange buildings and other white elephants. Nwafor Orizu College of Education, Nsugbe is not even accessible by road, more especially during the raining season. But most importantly, Governor Obi during his campaign, vowed to educate his children in the state should he be voted to power: to show his commitment in restoring quality and functional education. The education that is good for his children. Today his children are been educated in the UK whilst ‘other people’s children’ are being educated in his failed schools, what hypocrisy?

Another swank of Governor Obi in that blueprint of his was: Institution of overseas scholarship for indigenes of the state to study medicine, engineering and financial management and recruitment of Chinese farmers (within 3 months from April 2006) to kick-start the state’s cassava revolution. To date no indigene of the state has been awarded the said scholarship and there are no Chinese farmers anywhere in Anambra state kick starting his cassava revolution. The only Chinese in the state are his fellow traders found in Onitsha main market and Nkwo Nnewi trading in contrabands and fake products imported from China and to the detriment of sustainable employment by the indigenes of the state due to lack suitable industries to employ them.

Governor Obi’s promise in his blueprint: “To provide indigenes of the state portable drinking water this 21st Century” via construction of bore holes in 44 towns across the state yearly and rehabilitation of water schemes in Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi are in shambles. He has failed woefully to deliver on this promise. Taps in Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi are still dry, whilst the promised bore holes that should have been sunk in all the towns by now are nowhere to be found. Again readers are invited to visit the states website under Projects to verify this fact besides the situation on the ground. My hometown, Ukpor, a local government headquarters cannot boast of any Governor Obi sunk borehole despite huge amount of federal revenue allocated to the local government that Governor Obi has failed to account for despite repeated calls by my people. Democracy indeed.

He has reneged on his pledge in the said blueprint: “To clean up, reconstruct and urbanise Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi via establishment of Urban Development Councils (UDC).” Firstly the UDC’s has not been established and secondly the principal towns of Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi remain an eyesore. Infact Onitsha is in a position to vie for the dirtiest and most disorganised town in Nigeria whilst Awka remains the most under developed state capital in Nigeria. Nnewi fares no better – please visit Bank Road, Nnewi amongst other roads in the town.

In the said blueprint, Governor Obi promised to: “Ensure the establishment of twenty industries before March 2010. This is one of the reasons that in my rejoinder to his blueprint, I described the contents of the blueprint as “Borne out of analogue reasoning in a digital age.” For this pledge is impossible. To date he has not established a single industry and March 2010 is around the corner.

The buildings and infrastructure destroyed by the Andy Uba sponsored November 10-12, 2004 mayhem that Governor Obi promised to reconstruct by May 2007 are still as they are: destroyed.

From the above analysis of Governor Obi’s blueprint, it is quite obvious that his government has failed irrespective of the rhetoric’s his PR machinery spews out daily. The situation on the ground speaks for itself. His, is a failed government, period. The indigenes of Anambra state deserve better come the next four years. That better is not Governor Peter Obi.
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op):
This one is VANGUARD 2010.

NGOs give reasons for poor IGR in Anambra

AN 82 –member coalition of Non–Governmental Organizations, NGOs, operating in Anambra State, has attributed the state’s inability to generate adequate revenue internally, despite its revenue potentials, to corrupt practices and use of unqualified staff for revenue generation.

The state is said to be generating about N500 million monthly which, experts say, is grossly inadequate for a state that had great revenue windows as Onitsha and Nnewi.

Addressing newsmen in Awka yesterday after carrying out a case study of three selected local government areas on the impact of revenue generation mechanism in Anambra State, sponsored by the European Union, EU, Coordinator of the Coalition for Transparency and Good Governance, COTAGG, Mr. Michael Opia, said if the state government could put certain things right, the state’s IGR would definitely improve.

The two-week case study was done in Anambra East, Idemili South and Ogbaru local government areas of the state.

Opia said that apart from corruption, it was discovered that there was so much ignorance on the part of the public on corrupt practices in IGR system, lack of proper finance management and lack of due process in the appointment of revenue collectors and consultants.

According to him, even the workers of the Board of Internal Revenue are not properly equipped to carry out their duties, while consultants often engaged by government appear to be fending more for themselves, thus leading to unnecessary leakages in the system.

“The problem started in 1992 when the then state government used IGR windows to settle politicians who assisted in enthroning the government. Since then, things have gone wrong and those entrenched in the system are not ready to give up. It requires political will to stop them and if government is ready to do this, the revenue profile of the state will improve.

“Anambra State has potentials to generate more than N10 billion annually with the available IGR windows. For instance, there are about 63 major markets that can generate billions every month, but the most of the revenue from them are diverted into private pockets.

“We are very optimistic that with the strong political will demonstrated so far by the present governor, Mr. Peter Obi, revenue profile of the state could be enhanced to be second to that of Lagos State,” he said.
A reign of crude methods and levies for his uncle.

Anambra imposes levy on Okada, GSM operators

AS part of efforts to shore up its revenue, Anambra State government has awarded contracts for revenue collection from operators of Global Service Mobile, GSM, and commercial motorcycles, popularly called Okada.

Also to be levied are marine transport operators.

Commissioner for Special Duties and Transport, Mr. Robert Okonkwo, who briefed newsmen on the activities of his ministry in Awka Wednesday, said accredited revenue agents were required to make their payments weekly or monthly through the state’s direct pay system.

He explained that his ministry had also, in collaboration with the state’s Internally Generated Revenue, IGR, committee, awarded contracts for the collection of levies on all containers coming into the state.

The commissioner added that areas to be covered by the contract are Onitsha North, Onitsha South, Ogbaru, Oyi, Idemili North and Nnewi North local government areas.
Each 40ft container is expected to attract N10,000, while levy on 20ft containers will be N5,000.

According to him, government has, in collaboration with Winorac Engineering Services, begun the branding and registration of all commercial vehicles operating in the state, adding that the expectation was that the exercise would be completed by the end of this month.

He said the re-branding would also be extended to commercial motorcycle operators who are required to brand their tanks in the same colours as commercial vehicles, and explained that this category of transporters was expected to have identity cards and vests with the registration numbers clearly emblazoned on them.
Politics › Re: Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op):
Note that Obi has always come presenting himself as some sort of different messiah and saint but his result was catastrophic failure. How then can the whole country watch such calamity and cluelessness happen AGAIN?

From THE SUN

Anambra IGR: Between Obi and Obiano

TO realize his ambition of being the presidential candidate of a political party in the 2019 general elections, the immediate past Anambra State governor, Peter Obi, has been sounding sanctimonious. The sanctimoniousness is most pronounced in the area of management of public resources. The magic of it all is that some Nigerians take him seriously except those of us in Anambra State. He was our governor for eight years, so we know what to believe.

Take his management of Internally Generated Revenue (IGR). Despite being in office when the national economy was booming because crude oil was selling for as much as 147 per barrel and Nigeria was exporting some 2.4 million barrels per day, the Peter Obi administration never announced that it received more than N400 million monthly. Note that this was when states like Cross River which had no important markets or businesses were generating N600 million a month (the manufacturing firms in the Calabar Free Trade Zone don’t pay taxes to the state government).

Immediately Willie Obiano became governor, the Anambra State Government announced that IGR had jumped from a miserable N400 million to an unbelievable N1.3bn per month. Governor Obiano was then emboldened to announce a 15% increase in the salaries of all government employees, including the 7,000 people that Obi employed just as he was departing. Obiano even went a step further to announce that he would increase the salaries across board again if the IGR moved to N2 billion monthly. The IGR was moving above N1.4bn when Nigeria officially entered economic recession. Yet, Anambra’s IGR has not been less than N1.2 billion per month since Governor Obiano took over leadership.

It is no surprise that states like Kogi have been sending high-powered delegations to Anambra State to understudy how Governor Obiano raised internal revenue by over 300% on assumption of office and has been managing the state’s resources most prudently. In terms of rate of development, Lagos is probably the only state which rivals Anambra State, but not in security, agriculture and education, as one analyst observed recently. While the recession has made most states unable to pay salaries, gratuities and pensions, meeting such financial obligations is taken for granted in Anambra State. Economic activity is here at an all-time high, despite the national recession.

It is usual for analysts to ascribe the good economic times in Anambra State to Governor Obiano’s solid academic and professional training in accounting, banking, auditing and general management. After all, he is not only a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria (ICAN) but also Patron of the Institute. He is also a chartered auditor. True, Obiano’s strong economic and accounting background has been beneficial to Anambra State. But the background alone does not explain why the state’s IGR skyrocketed from a paltry N400m to N1.4 billion monthly no sooner than he took over.

Obiano merely decided to block numerous leakages deliberately put in place in Anambra State’s economic system. He started with IGR. Take management of markets. As everyone knows, Anambra people are born entrepreneurs. Commerce is at the centre of their individual and collective existence. Markets of various sizes are ubiquitous in every city, town, village and hamlet in the state. Like the Jews, the people ingeniously turn every little available space into a market, and before you know it they have become tycoons. Find out how Cosmas Maduka of Coscharis and Chidi Anyaegbu of Chisco Motors began.

I am sorry to report that during the Obi administration, markets, the most important internal source of revenue for the government and people of Anambra State, were toyed with, to put it euphemistically. Peter Obi handed over the markets to his uncle to superintend. The result was that under Governor Obi’s leadership for a whole eight years, the state could not declare more than N400 million as IGR for even a month at a time of economic boom.

It was not just all the markets in Anambra State that Peter Obi handed over to his uncle to superintend. He also handed over to him all the motor parks in the state. As you must have known, NdiAnambra excel in motor transport business. It has been so right from the time of Sir Phillip Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the father of Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, General of the People’s Army and Patron Saint of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA). Proprietors of Ekene Dili Chukwu, Chisco Motors, The Young Shall Grow Motors, GUO Transport, Eddyson Motors, Izuchukwu Motors, Eekeson Motors, etc, are all from Anambra State. And they all have big parks in the state. There are other numerous parks by those who run smaller transport businesses. Was Peter Obi naïve to make his uncle the person to collect IGR from all markets but also all the motor parks in the state?

Let us cite another example. Ex-governor Obi made a show of how he developed an integrated development scheme called ANIDS, for short. One of the ANIDS success symbols is the Anambra State Transport Company (TRACAS), whose numerous commercial buses and minivans traverse the country daily. The government invested N300 million in TRACAS. But as Obi was leaving office three and a half years ago, TRACAS was declared a private venture and handed over to a private company! ANIDS did not pay even one kobo to the state government for the eight years Obi was our governor! Does anybody still wonder why Anambra’s IGR was never above a mere N400 million during Obi’s leadership?

We have carefully avoided mentioning how the police in Lagos under Marvel Akpoyibo arrested on Sunday, June 1, 2009, an Anambra State Government vehicle with N250 million raw cash at 7 Aerodrome Street in Apapa, the corporate headquarters of Obi’s companies. We have also carefully overlooked the demand for a refund of N7 billion as expenses purportedly incurred on Anambra’s governorship election four years ago, which is the genesis of the current fight between godfather and godson. Godson wonders if there will still be money for workers’ salaries and for building infrastructure, etc, if one person alone receives N7 billion. We have also carefully avoided talking about Obi’s claim last May at a public lecture in Lagos of wearing only one watch for 13 years, only for the media to publish photographs of him wearing several watches in just one year.

It is befuddling how our former governor Obi insists, without any sense of embarrassment, that he is the only living saint in Nigeria and needs only formal canonization in his lifetime. NdiAnambra are no longer amused by such theatricals. Jesus Christ used strong language to refer to the Pharisees because of their hypocrisy, calling them “you brood of vipers” (Matthew 12: 34). Saint Peter Gregory Obi is enjoined to meditate on this biblical line.
Politics › Is It Not This Same Obi Now In LP, Or It Is Chinko-made Obi? by Image123(op): 2:14pm On Jan 17, 2023
Act 12:21(KJV)  And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. 

Act 12:21  Therefore, at a set time Herod put on his royal robes, sat down on the royal seat, and made a speech to them. 
Act 12:22  The people kept shouting, "This is the voice of a god, not of a man!" 

Act 24:1  And after five days, the high priest, Ananias, came with certain of the rulers, and an expert talker, one Tertullus; and they made a statement to Felix against Paul.

Every election cycle and in governments and high places around the world, we usually have people with the gift of the gab. Public speakers use this to sway the people and we can see that it is not always to the best place. As it has been in the past, it is still today, and it will still be tomorrow.
As we approach the February 2023 elections, one is tempted to critically wonder if people have very short memories or it is more of sentiments(religion/tribe/party/anti-party).
Peter Obi is here again with his usual rhetorics and many promises. Many young people are probably unaware of his past failure in governance but it is still there staring at him. His two successors have confirmed he did not do so well. The records are there for those who really want to verify. See this thread for some. It will be a miracle if Obi supporters do not reply me with tons of insults and threats instead of objectivity, but i have come to expect it. Like someone said, we will ignore the insults and focus on the votes. It is what it is.
Politics › Re: Moment Peter Obi Identified Japan Map While Talking About Them In Chatham House by Image123(m): 1:48pm On Jan 17, 2023
BentizilL:
At 10years old in JSS 1, I can identify any country on earth with map... I also know the capital of more than 70% of the countries in the world... I can remember the look on the face of Mr Garguilo(an Italian), the first principal of my school when I showed him Indonesia without looking twice..

Maybe I should be the president because of that... kiss
If we miss you, this country is doomed my man.
Politics › Re: Moment Peter Obi Identified Japan Map While Talking About Them In Chatham House by Image123(m): 1:46pm On Jan 17, 2023
KosiGee:
That wasn’t Japan na. I’m Obidient but Peter Obi’s right index finger was pointing at South China Sea, a bit to the left is Vietnam…Japan is farther to his right….comon people.
If his intention was to identify Japan on that map, then it’s a huge blunder. Someone might actually create another thread disputing this one that Obi couldn’t locate Japan on a world map.
Thanks brother, that was more of Taiwan but i will let it slide.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 1:43pm On Jan 17, 2023
fridayking:
And the Level of stupidity in u is getting alarming by the day... Keep dwindling in tribalism.
Quote the tribalism. This victim card cannot work, face reality.
Politics › Re: OPC Is Not The Same As IPOB. by Image123(op): 1:25pm On Jan 17, 2023
Idiko1:
Do you mean a nationalist as in the quest for the so-called "One-Nigeria"? I guess OPC is simply a cultural organization which is completely deluded. However, OPC should be properly tagged separatist organization if its aim is to actualize Republic of Oduduwa. I think cowardice is a huge hurdle for OPC.
Nationalist in the sense of Nigeria's Independence or Awolowo sense. The Awolowo dream was a sort of 'progressive Nigeria dream' which the yorubas claim is the best.
Not cowardice but more of different heads with different visions. i mentioned how they started out with trying to fight for Abiola. Then they started fighting for yorubas as it were. Then they had factions, where i think their problem and irrelevance started. Though to me, they lost relevance once Abiola died, and then 1999 elections happened "for yorubas". Though they continued to push for Abiola to be immortalized, whatever that means.
Politics › Re: Fact Checks On Peter Obi's Speech At Chattam House Yesterday by Image123(m): 1:22pm On Jan 17, 2023
vacanci:
Reportera is a department of Obi's campaign. Here is the reason below

The fact check sheet above showed the date to be 15th January, 2023 as against the true date of the speech which was 16th January, 2023. How did they do a fact check on the 15th when the speech happened on the 16th

This implies that they have already prepared what he was going to say and already did the fact checks ahead of time.

fact checking the fact checker shows that it is a branch of the labour party.
You get sense, God bless you. You truly verified.
Politics › Re: Fact Checks On Peter Obi's Speech At Chattam House Yesterday by Image123(m):
Lolz, lamba warrior.

FACT CHECK 1. Obi claimed that he had no problem as opposition governor.
VERDICT: FALSE. Obi was impeached. Also his then Chief of Staff explained this recently, he could not even conduct local government elections.It's on PUNCH.

If you remember what Anambra State was before Peter Obi became governor, we needed to establish peace, rapport and conviviality to conduct elections at the local government level. For a long time after he came, peace was not there. This was the state where people were chopping off people’s heads, either for proven or suspected criminal offences. This was a state where some political thugs who were against the previous governor kidnapped him. This was a place where hoodlums burnt down a radio and TV station, and everything. That was when this man (Obi) came. It was a difficult place. It took a while for him to settle and restore peace. At that time, who was even talking about the LG elections? At that time, he was trying to settle down. From March to September or thereabouts, he was impeached by the legislators. Was that the place you would conduct LG elections? He had to go to court to regain his mandate. He returned in 2016, and by 2017, elections were due. They conducted the elections and excluded him, and he had to go to court, telling them that ‘my tenure has not ended.’ It took him months to regain his mandate, and this was a man who spent three years, for an election he won in 2003. Was that a state where elections could take place? It took him a while, but gradually people began to see that this man meant well. It took a long time.
CLAIM: China, US and other governments owe.
VERDICT: This is all common knowledge, but Obi's only fuel and achievement he has been running with is NOT OWING. He and his supporters have spoken negatively about Nigeria owing. He even lies that Nigeria owes for consumption. Now, they asked him if he will borrow as president, the hypocrite started to say with statistics that every country owes. Deceptive and self centred.

CLAIM: Niger state is 2.5 times bigger than the Netherlands.
VERDICT: Niger State is not up to 2 times of Netherlands. Niger State does not have the favourable climate and low plains of Netherland. Niger State is not having the gracious coastal advantage that Netherland has to enjoy benefitting so massively from agriculture export. Niger State is not bordered by UK and Germany, so cannot get its food sold that profitable.
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by Image123(m): 1:18pm On Jan 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Evidence of something that didn't happen? Lol grin
Bro, this is 2023, your gullibility levels is off the hook
Just like i defined, an armchair critic. You already pre-determined that an unmentioned miracle did not happen, yet you expect me to waste my time trying to convince you. Who are you again? If you want to disprove miracles, get off that chair and put your money where your mouth is, work those lazy socks off.
Politics › OPC Is Not The Same As IPOB. by Image123(op): 1:11pm On Jan 17, 2023
i decided to make this short thread to answer the question so many Obi followers have been asking me and i guess others about Tinubu condemning OPC before Obi can condemn IPOB. i got so many mentions on the same issue that i was surprised. i don't understand if Tinubu is their role model that they must foloow to act right.
i guess the mob direction started from last month when the spokesperson of the LP PCC asked the same question, maybe he sent it in their whatsapp group chat or something.

Here is the quote on Vanguard

Following calls by the Presidential Campaign of the All Progressives Congress, APC, that the Presidential candidate of the Labour Party, Peter Obi should denounce the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, publicly, the party has on Tuesday lampooned the ruling party, asking if its presidential candidate, Ahmed Bola Tinubu, denounced Oodua People’s Congress, OPC when he was governor of Lagos state.

Chief Spokesperson of the LP PCC, Dr. Tanko Yunusa, who stated this, described the action of the ruling party as hypocritical.

In a telephone interview with Vanguard, Yunusa said, “ The hypocrisy exhibited by Keyamo and the APC Presidential Campaign stinks, has his principal, Asiwaju Ahmed Tinubu ever denounced the OPC when he was governor of Lagos State?
For starters, OPC was not a separatist organisation like IPOB but according to them a nationalist, regionalist, and vigilante organization. Separatist is by law unconstitutional as it threatens the sovereignty and peace of a country, which its leaders swear to protect. IPOB basically wants Biafra, another nation. OPC started as a specific reaction to the annulment of the elections of June 12, 1993. Their main aim was to make Abiola get his "stolen mandate" and to protect yoruba interests. It has since evolved into several different roles as it has adapted to the changing political and security environment in Nigeria.
Of course, Abiola died in 1998 and OPC took up more of a vigilante or security role. Many people in SW knew them then for this, fighting crime, catching kidnappers, robbers and so forth with so called juju. They broke into factions which made their functions difficult to define as they were part self-determination organization, part vigilante group. Once they started violent confrontation with members of other ethnic groups, human rights abuses and acts of violence. The FG led by a yoruba man OBJ declared shoot at sight on them and the SW supported it.
Of course, the people and even SW government still had some soft spot for the faction involved in crime fighting so it became kind of messy to support or not support. They were like the Amotekun of today, though not so organised.
OPC did not have say over the SWest or disrupt economic and security of the people. They did not go about kidnapping soldiers, killing and beheading yorubas and political office holders. They did not enforce sit at home or burn markets and properties, police stations and government offices or greatly threaten the stability of government. They have been majorly under check and wings clipped since that time, around 2001 or so. Only hypocrisy will make us compare the two.
The SEast is losing trillions of naira due to ipob activities, while Tinubu was increasing IGR from 600million to about 8billion in the midst of inconsequential OPC activity. As an aside, i happened to live around the area Fasehun(the OPC leader then) lived in Lagos at that period. There was no insecurity, no fightings, no shacklings whatsoever. i even knew his family by face then. Why do i add this, because it is something i remember and was there, not just something i read online.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 12:32pm On Jan 17, 2023
chymeze:
You ended up not making sense! That someone believes there is a reason for an agitation doesn't mean he supports it. The problem is the way agitations are handled. If Nigeria had a president with wisdom who could handle the ipob agitation like a father when it started, it would never have degenerated into this. And to think that this same government still holds KANU in jail despite numerous court orders freeing him, and yet still frees confirmed Boko Haram terrorists shows why the country and the ipob agitation has degenerated to this condition. It takes a wise president to rule a nation like Nigeria. It's not everything that military force can quell especially when it's obviously tribalistic. Even this Yoruba nation agitation, if it's not handled wisely now that it's at it's infancy stage will degenerate.
Lastly, these agitations only arose because of the president's obvious tribalistic and nepotistic attitude in sidelining other tribes from national governance. Such act is suicidal especially in a multiethnic and miltireligious society like Nigeria
i agree with over 90% of what you posted because we are saying the same thing essentially. Obi has continued to openly speak against and deliberately mention insecurity in the North but shys away from the one in the South East. Instead he gets defensive and says things like they are not bad, I live with them, I will bring them out from prison, If you don't want Nigeria go to your own country, they are marginalized etc.
All they need to do is speak up against the criminality of ipob, not the agitations. The problem with most part of Nigeria is supporting their brother against the country. If he steals or kill, he is our brother leave him. Only the SW seems different, like we see the way OBJ dealt with OPC and when the FG dealt with Igboho, nobody in the SW complained or threatened to burn down the country.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 12:26pm On Jan 17, 2023
blahc007:
Do you know that the Yoruba people are also agitating?
And if they are also not properly handled, they will become forceful like IPOB.....

You people are just here foaming from the mouth because of Obi and IPOB.... Nigeria is in a deep shit...very terrible state.

You better start praying
i know all these. The fact remains that the SWest don't pamper criminality. Nobody observed sit at home or threatened Nigeria because Igboho was arrested. OBJ a yoruba man declared shoot at sight on OPC when they started to misbehave. The North and the SEast and even SS will instead say it is our brother ohhh, and fight for the criminal. That is the difference i am talking about that the leaders are treating it with kids gloves.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 12:19pm On Jan 17, 2023
IfnobeGod20:
Mr. Man, for any agitation, there is an underlying reasons for it. It's only a mad man that will just stand up and be going aimlessly.
Even the most docile person in this nation know that all agitations are borne out of injustice and unfair treatment melted out on such group. Give every parts and sections equal representations or attention and see such agitation fizzle out automatically. If there's anyone hiding behind one finger, you're the one. It was the same way Boko Haram was treated with kid's glove and it has turned to a monster we are nursing today.
Some of you think every issues must be treated in kinetic approach but not all required stick approach. You cannot because you have headache and start using cutlass to cut your head, all you need is just #100 paracetamol and not a barrel of gun.
It is when things have turned monster that will blaming those we need not blamed. Funnily it was during his government that the monster MASSOB was held down that the same you guys are using against him today. If he has allowed them to have field days and be killing the innocent Anambrans, you people will say he brewed them and pampering them.
It even funny that those that Boko Haram was birth and developed to monster wasn't blame but it is a man that never has anything to do with it that is you people headache. Shettima was in government when Boko Haram was formed and developed to the level is today but nobody call him out for it but Obi is the problem that must be call out on IPOB. A group that wasn't even formed during his tenure, the one formed during his tenure, he fought them hands down.
Instead of you to call out those in government to do their work, which was constitutionally given to them to secure the country, it is a man without any constitutional power that is your concern. Did anyone call out Tinubu when OPC was on rampage in south west and even made Lagos their sanctuary.
You guys should direct blame where it ought to go and not ordinary citizen that doesn't command any authority. He has said what he will do to them when he becomes president and this is what he has done before with attendant results to show for it. If you want to hear stories call for MASSOB members and kidnappers once residing in Anambra and you will be enlightened.
ipob are not the first people to agitate and will not be the last. Like Obi said, he has people agitating in his house. You agitate with brain, with sense. Not killing your own people and rendering them useless on Mondays. Two wrongs do not make a right. There are lessons to learn from boko haram and the silence/tacit support of the North. Until it became uncontrollable. Same thing if not worse is applicable to the East. The leaders and influential ones in the East have being conspicuosly silent and even supportive about ipob from the beginning. So if your own child is unjustly treated in school, you will support him to break the law because you are agitating?
If Obi spoke or acted against MASSOB, then why is he not speaking against ipob? ipob was formed in 2012 BTW. Shettima spoke against Boko haram and cried out to FG to help him. The Yorubas also spoke against OPC when it was getting out of hand. OBJ is yoruba and declared shoot at sight on OPC from 1999.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 12:09pm On Jan 17, 2023
nwakaibe:
The foundation of APC is built on what? A party that called a sitting president clueess, carried coffin with Jonathan's name etc APC insulted Jonathan in a way not ever seen in Nigeria.
i did not mention a party, i said and i quote "the foundation of Obi supporters is built on lies and insults."
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 12:07pm On Jan 17, 2023
erico2k2:
arnt his people agitating for Biafra?what is BH agitating 4?
Like i said, it is Obi that we should ask. He is the one that called all of them agitators and said that he will discuss with them to find out.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:52am On Jan 17, 2023
steeltrust:
shut up and stop talking like a fool

Ipob are agitators
If not for useless buhari this agitating won’t be this worse giving rise to some one like NMK

now ask your self what doe’s bokoharam want
They want Nigeria as a whole to embrace Islam and do away with western education what nonsense is that
Bandit nko
You don’t need to condemn them because you already know their problem which Obi has stated often
Get them a job and see bandit die off gradually
Heardsmen issue wasn’t like this before buhari came

I don’t blame you
Na 30k de shark you
Is this the way you told your parents to shut up and stop talking like a fool?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:46am On Jan 17, 2023
nabiz:
tell tinubu of go for interview too. Many Nigerian have questions for him
He doesn't need to answer what has been answered. He was in Chatham house before Obi. What is your question for him?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:44am On Jan 17, 2023
Lashist:
All you have said about OBI is ipob this ipob that...when will you ask BAT to condemn OPC, agberos, condemn herdsmen killings, fulani bandits, boko haram, oduduwa nation, the economic damage APC Has done to the country..obviously, you are just a silly noisemaker. There was no insults. You just had nothing sensible to say hence your silence
You are either not educated enough or so used to insult that you don't know what insult is. You went on about "urchin", "idiot" and now "silly noisemaker". If those are the words you use to greet your dad and mum,i take them as insult and can't waste time with you.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:38am On Jan 17, 2023
fridayking:
Bro borrow sense please,

OPC that attack my Dad who was a police officers at pencil police state with any provocation, he was giving a Mark on is head after they tried killing him with Cutlass because he refused to run away as the team leader and because he was from the East.. But God kept him alive miraculously... I was 18+ I still remember how my mum cry my dad's colleges came to house to inform my mum, then I thought I had lost dad...

Please, don't let Tribe and hate for other tribe blind our ...

We know what OPC became under Tinubu time as Governor... History no dey forget
You are 18+ thanks be to God. You ought to understand simple present tense and past tense. i clearly used present tense IS. i believe you benefited from the free WAEC during Tinubu's time and have that education to know present and past.
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 027 Common Myths About Virgin Giving Birth by Image123(m): 7:35am On Jan 17, 2023
jaephoenix:
Looks like this is a regular theist. There's this JW guy here, Aemmyjah. Any time I ask him to prove something, he'll tell me to look for the evidence. I'm like whoa. You ask me to prove mine, I get you the evidence. I ask the same, you tell me to look for the evidence. Lol.
Look theists, we aint all cretarded like y'all. Our brain isn't seeped in this brainwashing juice like yours cheesy
If you want evidence, come out and get it. i don't have time for armchair critics.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:32am On Jan 17, 2023
Lashist:
You just a silly noise maker. I engaged you in an argument last time, you run comot. When will BAT address the agberos and other rubbish APC Has done to this country...you are always losing sleep over a small structureless party
i don't usually respond to people who have nothing but insults to give, that's probably why i didn't reply you. If you can't discuss like a sane human being and without sentiments, i don't waste my time.
Are you comparing agberos to ipob? Is Obi waiting for Tinubu to address agberos before he says the truth? So he's not different.
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:28am On Jan 17, 2023
expert234:
But you never for once ask Buhari about fulani herdsmen.

The same set of people saying Peter Obi never condemned IPOB never attacked Buhari for failing to condemn and proscribe fulani herdsmen.
You are a liar. The whole country complained about Buhari's nepotism and failure in herdsmen crises. Is Obi following Buhari or what?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:26am On Jan 17, 2023
expert234:
The OPC in its hay days were known dor causing mayhem and tinubu never condemned them
Is Tinubu your role model? Must Tinubu do something before you do it?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 7:25am On Jan 17, 2023
expert234:
And to prove your party to be useless, you couldn't field the likes of fashola and osibanjo, but went for a drug dealer, the father of a drug addict.
Did he deal drugs with you or yours?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 6:55am On Jan 17, 2023
Believeintruth:
Have you forgotten that IPOB had cancelled Sit at home and said it is only when Nnamdi Kanu is on trial that there would be sit at home. Stop being mischievous the violence in the east is instigated by FG and corrupt politicians using criminals and cultists. This is clearly not IPOB
Is Kanu ipob? Who is the leader/current leader of ipob? Who is giving the sit at home rule for example, and who is enforcing it? You live in the East that's why i ask. Is it the FG?
Politics › Re: Man Who Asked Peter Obi About IPOB At Chatham House, Turns Out To Be APC Member by Image123(m): 6:36am On Jan 17, 2023
Believeintruth:
Have you forgotten that IPOB had cancelled Sit at home and said it is only when Nnamdi Kanu is on trial that there would be sit at home. Stop being mischievous the violence in the east is instigated by FG and corrupt politicians using criminals and cultists. This is clearly not IPOB
Really? So there's no more sit at home in the South East?

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