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engineerboat:
Are you doing any reasearch and SIPRI is your resource materials, i will advise to you to go further for other resources location. Is that taken. from your quoted Sipri, get the data for Nigeria, SOuth Africa, Algeria and Egypt and tell this house the number and analysis of weapon bought by each country and from where,
You will even realize that your aclaimed SIPRI did not even capture 1/4 of Hardwares and NAF platforms purchased by Nigeria. Do your analysis and come back again, is that taken.

I see that you didn't bother to check or download the links i gave you. You would have seen the answers to your questions there. To encourage your learning, i helped you with links, attached a file, and even led you to documents and information easy on your data. I could more equally give you videos in huge megabytes and gigabytes, but I'm a nice fellow. Anyone can get credible information for any country from SIPRI's website with a computer and less than 1mb. You cannot fault it, please be reasonable.

patriot4:
That is funny given my current job.

What is SIPRI?

patriot4:
image123,
Let me go further to ask you how posting irrelevant sipri web pages actually move the discussion any further ?
What I see is a person with little self esteem trying to rub the reputation of sipri on himself.
For your info those who work at sipri are not aliens, they are normal human beings. Who do you expect them to quote ?

Don't even know where to start with you, it's like teaching physics and someone comes to class who don't know the alphabet. Do i rather ignore you?
Okay, let's talk, what is SIPRI?

engineerboat:
Man abeg do you comparison very before commenting abeg.

Where you are quoting from, they also get their information from somewhere.

Also from your acclaimed quote, did Nigeria spend the same amount of money on Defence budget, bearing in mind that what goes on in Nigeria here is different from what goes on in another country. So please stop all these comparison. this is Nigeria, let Nigeria deal with her problem.

Once again campaign is over, PMB has met with GEJ on arm acquisition, those that have been delivered, those waiting delievery. This is what we've been clamouring for, "NOT FOR SHEHU Garba to still be sprewing thrash to us that PMB will probe GEJ arm purchase"

Let the Govt move ahead with what we have, then add more Arsenals to our amroury other hardwares and platforms.

Also i will advise you to do three things.
1. Get Nigeria defence budget and analyse it
2. Get the defence budget of this your other countries and analyze them.
3. Compare the analysis of the two.

Then come back here to discuss, without that, quoting amount for budget without its analyses if of no use at all.

i guess you are getting your own information directly from heaven or what? If SIPRI is not credible enough, give reason and tell us who is more credible, you?
The comparisons has been done already. I went a step further from budget to expenditure. Please, educate yourself on the difference engineering. All my quotes were from actual EXPENDitures. The money we have SPENT/expended are not commensurate with results or equipment on ground. Those that compare themselves with themselves are not wise, I've compared us to other countries, bigger and smaller, African and non African. I've provided the links so you ysee any country and employ any criteria. We've not done well, and we need to start.

patriot4:
Look, stop with the lies, Nigeria has never bought weapons from america. america has never agreed to sell weapons to Nigeria. I don't understand the logics of you giving me the example of america selling a civilian object to Nigeria and then concluding that america have sold weapons to Nigeria. Give me a weapon instead. The thing is that instead of using real arguments, you rather produce a cosmetic work and try to convince rather than prove.

i gave you the link and source, I even attached the 30kb or so file, anyone can confirm from SIPRI. It's easy, try it yourself. Go to www.sipri.org

patriot4:
image123, I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that I get my information from the same place sipri gets its information. You see the budget was made public and it is on that basis that I worked. Still I don't see where you proved me wrong. I don't know why you keep posting the same sipri page which doesn't even mention Nigeria. I don't like this at all. I came here with all the honesty I had, hoping to bring light where there is darkness, and I am met with a fraudster who is trying to push an other lie. Please enough political campaign ! enough is enough ! Even the nazis were not as dishonnest as your likes.

SIPRI is a reputable international organization in Sweden. It was founded in 1966 and is one of the world's most influential think tanks. They don't do silly and baseless data and information. You need to be informed or come up with something more credible than SIPRI, not just hope to bring light, which kain yeye illegal light is that one. Obviously, you have no idea what and who SIPRI is to be saying all this rubbish you have said. But I'm sure you have enough data for 550kb download, that's less than 1mb for crying out loud. Please, the link is there, anyone can visit it and see things for himself. Check the link I gave again, and the download link, it's all free and accessible on SIPRI's website.

patriot4:
image123 , there is a reason why I initially intended to post only 5 comments. you see I know nairaland very well, in here people don't submit to logics, they try and trick their way out of everything, and that is exactly what you are doing. Look, I don't see the usefulness of these propaganda pieces you are fabricating. The elections are over, perharps it is time you get off the campaign mood. Don't you think you might have some genuin ideas to contribute ? Why must you lie all the way ? campaign is over !

Usually, i don't reply this kind of posts. This is a forum, we should aim at quality discussion and learning, not just throwing tantrums and making ridiculous accusations.. You can try pointing out the lies told and also convict using the truth.

patriot4:
image123, your affiliation to the apc party is not something you hide very well. Quoting wikipedia, is that a new thing ? Since when is the rv6 a weapon ? And all your other links were quite void. Look, I used to be a patriot of Nigeria and at this point I don't have any sympathy for the country anymore. What i said, were coming directly from my own brain and personal research and analysis. If I were to be a writer for sipri, then your likes would be quoting me.

There's no hiding of affiliation, i openly supported President Buhari as against former President Jonathan during the election and i have no regrets. It's not a cult or a vow, it was a simple democratic CHOICE. That's campaign and elections, that's over. That's not what the thread is about. We're not to do everything through the prism of politics, national security shouldn't be politicized.We're discussing about our military artillery/ammunition, whether we have good stock or not. It's either yes or no, with reasons. It's not about APC versus PDP, or Buhari versus Jonathan, or if Buhari seems to be winning, let's add OBJ, IBb and Abacha. That's a loss of focus and a waste of time for me. If that's all you're keen to discuss, have a nice day.
i highlighted RV6 to tell you that Nigeria not only buys weapons from US but has once assembled rv6s for them even. This is contrary to your baseless personal opinion that Nigeria and US don't do such business and can never do.

1. i'll be attaching two or so small documents and quoting from them. Anybody that has data and a computer can access these documents, i did not make them up.
2. i love our army(the Nigerian Army), i appreciate all that they are doing, and i pray for their success in their efforts to ensue our peace and unity.
cc: engineerboat

patriot4:
1st of all, thanks for making me make a 6th comment.
2) You do not actually know the budget of the military. For your information, the budget which is published is the security budget which comprises the dss, the nscdc, the police, costoms, road safety and army, navy, airforce. And it was around 5.9 billion dollars. Keep in mind that the police alone has an effectif of more than 300 000 personnel, that is to tell you the amount going for salary. Then you also have to look at barracks (including army, navy, airforce, mopol, policce, dss, costoms, nscdc barracks) rehabilitations. Then you have to look at pensions, then you have to look at maintenance of equipment, then you have to look at local manufacturing of weapons (eg: dicon weapons, igirigi, amebo, the war boat, etc...) Then finally you get the weapons procurement.

i really don't 'care' if the Nigerian Army spends its military budget on building Redeem Camp or feeding the hungry children in Cambodia. i simply compared our military budget with other countries in the world and commensurate to what we have as artillery/weapons and what they have. Quoting from SIPRI for instance, Nigeria's military budget for 2013(in millions of US$) is 2,419. Tunisia is 759, Benin is 86, Cameroon is 393, South Africa is 4135, Egypt is 4360. It is in comparison with these and many other countries that i am commenting. They also pay salaries and pensions and other expenses, but this is their military budgets, or more accurately their military expenditures. When you compare what we are spending/expending to Cameroon, Chad, Benin, Ghana and co, you will understand the shame why those armies had more clue about what to do than our army did, until recently. Those countries were dealing more effectively with the boko haram threat than Nigeria WAS. Those armies were coming into Nigeria at will and acting like our big brothers and guardian angels. Recently, the Presidency was talking about Ghana controlling Nigerian airspace or something like that. Nigeria was a joke, these are the facts. Nobody should now come and tell us how well we were doing and how we deserve a medal like these things happened thousands of years ago during the times of Nebuchadnezar and Oduduwa.

And please never repeat again that Nigeria spends as much as Egypt in weapons, that is certainly not true. Egypt and algeria are africa's biggest spenders on weapons. Algeria alone spends 10 billion dollars on weapons yearly.

Please get me accurately, i said we spend "not too far from what Egypt and co spend annually." i also said "We should be better equipped than Egypt, South Africa and any other African country in terms of WANTS and ability." This is different from saying that we spend as much. i said we SHOULD BE, and that we are not too far. My point is/was that if/since we are not too far, our results should not be too far. If we are spending more than 50% of what they are spending, at least, we should have more than 50% what they have, that's the logical and commensurate thing.
Take a cursory look at this wikipedia link at our airforce. You can also search for any other country's airforce to compare, the difference is clear, both on paper, in reality, on the net, and on the ground. What one observes is how much the output of former administrations is very clear and precise compared to the last administration. The last administration was more interested in politicising everything. Take a look at that link and the history of what was bought and done, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, even 2000s. Compare to from 2010s. No achievement of note, only politics of established Air Force Mobility Command headquarters in Yenagoa, first female pilot following directive by President Jonathan, approaching Pakistan to purchase weapon which is yet to be finalized. These are not impressive at all especially given the fact that we spent more money during these times, and there was a lot of noise about how other previous governments have neglected the army. One would think the people talking did something very impressive, only to discover that they either bought some few and mostly second hand equipment around election time, and complained a lot about how they were being frustrated either by witches or APC or America.

In my last analysis of the budget, I found out that after recurrent spendings, Nigerian armed forces (army, navy and airforce)were left with less than 1 billion dollars to spend on weapons. I invite you to go and look at the prices of the weapons you are fancying. And also keep in mind that a desperate costomer will always be asked to pay more money for the same product (that is how every market works). On the other hand egypt gets weapons from america for free and egypt gets donations from arab countries (several billionsof dollars) to procure weapons, and egypt adds even more billions to that money to buy even more weapons. Recently egypt bought a dozen of rafals, that alone would have been too much for even two years budget of the Nigerian armed forces, and the egyptian purchase for this year is only beginning, so no comparison is possible.

i'm going to quote some 10 countries and their military expenditure in the last ten years. The quotes are attached to this post and can be verified from sipri. Please, compare us with other countries and get a better perspective of where we are and where we ought to be. We have/had money, we are the largest population and biggest economy in Africa. We have/can afford what most of these countries have. Note that the values are in millions of US$.
1. Nigeria 640 674.2 776.2 971 1616 1504 1990 2385 2316 2419 2265
2. Algeria 2802 2925 3094 3946 5172 5281 5671 8652 9326 10405 11862
3. Angola 818 1365 1970 2032 3164 3311 3501 3639 4145 6091 6842
4. Benin 41.8 44.7 46.8 . . 64.7 . . . . . . 78.2 86.0 93.0
5. Cameroon 221 223 257 297 347 343 354 347 354 393 401
6. South Africa 3099 3567 3506 3526 3286 3593 4188 4594 4490 4135 3895
7. Brazil 9780 13589 16405 20486 24453 25649 34003 36936 33987 32958 31744
8. Malaysia 2823 3120 3266 3971 4412 3965 3854 4807 4697 4842 4919
9. Pakistan 3723 4128 4587 4969 5343 5227 5275 5975 6955 7479 7645 8537
10. Switzerland 3504 3485 3329 3525 4098 4056 4115 4974 4592 5053 5229
11. Egypt 2370 2659 2953 3307 3780 4017 4407 4464 4558 4360 4961

If you look through this table and the chart, and see that some of these countries don't even need to spend as much as we do on their military. We are richer than some of these countries, and need to spend more than many of them. So when i say we are not doing well, please don't insult us by saying that we are. And then even with how much we have spent, we should not be in the same league or worse than the likes of cameroon, Ghana, Senegal, Congo and some other African nations. When you look at these militaries and their artilleries, it is not too hard to say we do not have an airforce or a military, APART of course, from out number strength.

An other problem is the fact that when Nigerian generals come out to call for the purchase of weapons, it is the masses of Nigerians who shout the generals down and call them thieves and also use the usual refrain "are we at war ?". Also, I would like you to consider the fact that te money disbursed and the budget are two different things. Then let me also question you about the "outdated weapons" comment. For your information, there is no such thing as outdated weapons. Weapons are not like the milk you buy in the market. Weapons have a purpose and a price range. If you need 90 tanks and you have a choice between two types: type A recently designed and type B designed 40 years ago. Keep in mind that both weapons perform the same role which you want to buy the weapons for. Then next you can look at your dwindling budget and ask yourself should I buy 20 A tanks or use the same money to buy 107 B tanks ?

Point of correction, our military budget and EXPENDITURE is not dwindling, except dwindling as a new meaning. Also, our budgets and purchases have not been hinged on masses talk or public opinion. Please lets put out politics from this issue and face facts. Even when Nigeria was under mandatory EU or commonwealth embargo, during Abacha's time, we did not whine like this. The last administration had no serious embargo. In fact, thank God for Buhari who just made majority know about any Leahy law, which is peculiar to the US. Despite that, we have spent more money in the past few years with very little result. i attached the other document showing our arms purchases from 1979 to 2014. It showed that the last administration lied about other administrations not buying arms. They bought more arms than the last admistration despite the fact of them spending much more. We have also bought from many countries INCLUDING the U.S

As for patiently waiting for the usa to agree to sell us weapons, I would like you to abandon that ludicrous idea. The usa has never sold weapons to Nigeria and never will. When Nigeria was patiently waiting for usa weapons, bht was busy taking land from us. If we had waited any longer, Nigeria would be called bht-land today. Unless you can convince bht to be patient and wait for the usa to agree to sell weapons to Nigeria (perharps in 100 years) before attacking any further, you shouldn't be asking Nigerians to be patiently waiting for usa approval while bht is killing their relatives.

It is not a ludicrous idea to wait a little for diplomatic talks to yield fruits. Nigeria and the U.S just had talks about two weeks ago, its too short a timeframe for anyone to conclude that it was a useless venture when the two parties did not say so but hinted otherwise. If they do not sell, no problem but i expect that they will sell. Look at the second document i attached or make your findings here or wherever else that is credible. In the document, you will see that Nigeria has bought arms from MANY many countries before. We have also bought very well from the US. In fact, in 1987, we assembled some 60 pieces of RV-6 for them. We have done business with them very well even till last year. Also, nothing stops us from acting simulteneously and sourcing weapons from different other countries. This link from wikipedia also shows that the US is one of our suppliers. This one also says that we bought M40s from them. So brother, lets stop politics and partisan arguments. Lets move this country forward. Our military has not been transformed, they need transformation, and we will get it, America or no America.


Sorry the first file would not upload, it is a 500kb excel file, and NL takes 250kb. You can view here, or download here

engineerboat:
wants and need are determined by scale of preference. Agreed we need more weapon. But given the circumstances GEJ founf himself, if he had not look the way of RUSSIA; UKRAINE, CHINA etc, did you think dat any peaceful election will have been held in the NE and some NW and if dat has happen to whoose advantage.

Also the shout of obsolete weapons, kindly From your sincere church mind point to any obsolete from the equipment gotten so far by GEJ and those still been expected for shipment.

Our army need to be equiped more infact #ArmedNigeriaToTheTeeth, but we should not be held hostage by USA and His allies, let PMB look other ways and get other needed addition to what is on ground.

We are both saying the same thing somewhat, and that is "Nigeria needs and wants a good and well equipped army. Our equipment are outdated and not enough." i do not exactly care about GEJ or GMB or OBJ or Lugard or whoever, but since you insist on talking about them, i will talk a little about them, especially in my next post to patriot4. Your thread and OP is trying to tell us that we are equipped, that the Nigerian Army and Airforce are equipped, that anyone is wrong to say that we lack a good airforce. This is where we disagree. We are not well equipped, nobody is saying we don't have some hilux jeep, AK47s and some helicopters. That's all rubbish if you know what a real military is all about. We have the largest population in Africa, and are well able to have a good military, especially compared to what obtains in countries like Egypt, South Africa, Angola, Algeria etc, not to mention Europe or America, or even Asia and the South America. There are more than 100countries from who we can buy weapons if we know what we are doing. Please read my next post, i will talk more elaborate there. Thanks.

baralatie:
I am saying it is a crazy thing for a Nigeria not to have a superior weapon.I am saying That the us is not crazy to hand over "to a elephant with a rhino force like Nigeria" superior war equipment just like that.

Don't be ridiculous, the Nigerian Army is not as "superior" as you think. The US sells weapons to more so called "superior" countries than Nigeria. It is Nigeria's loss of face in the international community that has made things relatively cumbersome. That 'face'is being restored as we speak.

The plight of being politically correct.

Go and read Proverbs 31. A virtuous woman works.

baralatie:
^^^^^
the us will not hand down to The Nigerian army superior military power. they are not crazy!

It's not a crazy thing to sell weapons to Nigeria. US is not the only country that sells. I will inform you as soon as we acquire superior quality weapons.

^∆Patience, watch and see. We're both agreed on the fact that there are efforts in play to relax restrictions. We do need a commensurate artillery compared to our annual military budget of more than $3billion. Most of what we're currently using are old, outdated and not worth the money invested.

baralatie:
and you think that PMB will be able to get a fourth generation fighter jets knowing that the USA and its allies has declined due to a blacklist.

Well, we are hearing that the US wants to relax restrictions, that was a major reason for the President's visit last month. So, we hope for the best. At worst, we hope for more accountability. As we spend at least $3billion annually on the military, not too far from what Egypt and co spend annually. If you go to market and don't come back with goods, where is the money? We cannot argue from three different opposing positions all at once.
How logical is it to say that we're frustrated and denied weapons, and then turn back to say we have weapons and the GEJ govt bought them, and we claim to have pictures and videos. Then amazingly say again like Dasuki that our weapons have not arrived? Something awry is ongoing.

engineerboat:
I hope you did a little bit of economics. WANTS & NEEDS

Nigeria needs and wants a good and well equipped army. We have the size/personnel strength but not the standard equipment. Our equipment are outdated and not enough. We should be better equipped than Egypt, South Africa and any other African country in terms of WANTS and ability. We can be as equipped as the Royal Airforce in terms of NEEDS.

baralatie:
so what should PMB do about the NAF Fleet!

He should equip it to standard of course. A standard commensurate with our annual budget for the military, and our status in West Africa and Africa.

Lol, simple Google search is enough to show that our military/airfoce lacks equipment, except the OP is ranking them with boko haram. Search Royal Airfoce, or American airforce, or Egyptian airforce, or even south african airforce, then cover your head in shame.

plaetton:
No sir.
It is not foolish at all.

I do understand your need, the human need to feel special above everything else in the universe.
But sir, that doesn't substract from the fact that at the microscopic level, we are little more than chemical interactions and their mathematical results, not too different from artificial things.

Sorry, the human is special, above everything else in the universe. It is not about the need to be but a fact, the reality that we can all see and access. Humans are made in the image of God and are the crown of all of creation. By that, it means we are the APEX/top/zenith of everything created. i do not doubt or argue the fascination of other creation(living and non-living). Many things are special, all of creation is special and fascinating in its own way. But man remains special above everything else. We have DOMINION over everything else, that is, we can harness, control, direct, and utilize other creation and creature more than any other creation or creature. We have dominion over every plant and animal(living things) more than any other living thing has. If that is not SPECIAL, then maybe you do not know the meaning of the word 'special'.
Having established the basic fact that man(humans) is most special of all living things, it is a no-brainer to say that man as a living thing is more special than any non-living thing. The FACT is that Robots are not living things. They simply do not have LIFE. They can only simulate, they remain ARTIFICIAL(fake, mock, imitation). They cannot Grow or Die in the sense that living things do. They do not have emotions like human beings have. They have no joy, they cannot love, they cannot have a heartbreak, they cannot feel pity, or pain, or disappointment. They cannot worship, they do not have conscience,they cannot even get angry. They need Operating System updates, memory cards and hard disks. They need internet access and electric power. They do not have blood, father, or child. They are mere machines, made by men.

At a microscopic level, it is not news that every thing is made by God. It is not news that humans are made from earth as raw material. The Bible already says that thousands of years ago. It is not a new joy or revelation to discover that all creation is basically some Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen and some other elements in varying percentages. Hear this.

Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?

Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

1Pe 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

Jam 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

So, we know that already, that we all have something in common. But having something in common does not make us the same. The human and cockroach have many things in common, but i will be surprised if you think we are not superior to cockroaches. Don't get high on AI, its at best artificial.

datigbogirl:
Was I the one who fell the economy? Why shouldn't I mitigate my loses then and be d one to bear the brunt instead?

The available forms will result in a huge loss to me...My business is legit and I'm taking the alternative sensible form and not this prank at stabilizing the economy. That's why his regime didn't last...his overzealous but has little wisdom.

The exit door remains open, it is not by force to do business in Nigeria. I'd rather the common man that lives below the poverty level benefit from the country, than people who can carry $10,000 up and down. You have a choice, millions of Nigerians do not. The regimes that lasted like IBB, Abacha, OBJ and GEJ, we did not see their usefulness to the majority of Nigeria. I'd rather have quality over quantity any day.

datigbogirl:
With this people will simply take their hard currency abroad and do business. Barcanista wetin you think?

Say I converted my naira to 10k$ before the policy, now converting it back at the banks will be at a loss to me cos the bank won't use d standard rate when reconverting back to dollars for me incase I wanna do a foreign transaction. Gtbank I hear currently charge 216 to a dollar.

So d common-man like me will simply carry my 10k$ to cotonou or ghana and do my business except they wan say dollars sef na contraband to travel with-in the end more loss of revenue for the country.

Grow the economy Baba instead of all this crash course and bag of tricks

Common men don't carry $10,000 up and down. if you have legitimate business, use the available forms. If you only want to profit from a falling economy, the exit door is open.

all4naija:
Neighboring countries are going to profit from this silly policy by the dullard. The rich Nigerians and expatriates are going to be taking dollars through the borders and deposit them in domiciliary accounts in those countries thereby contributing to their economies and might leads to appreciation of their currencies. It is based on the law of demand and supply in many cases. Money laundering just took a new turn in Nigeria.

Thought you guys were of the opinion that parallel rates didn't really affect the economy? When naira strengthened from 240 to 209/dollar, your likes said the rate has been 197/dollar and that's the rate that matters. Okay, we'll forgive that, so what do you suggest as you're all for Nigeria.

all4naija:
Neighboring countries are going to profit from this silly policy by the dullard. The rich Nigerians and expatriates are going to be taking dollars through the borders and deposit them in domiciliary accounts in those countries thereby contributing to their economies and might leads to appreciation of their currencies. It is based on the law of demand and supply in many cases. Money laundering just took a new turn in Nigeria.

Yes o, we were hopeless before.

gawu1:
We say our country is not on the right tracks political and economic wise. Yet, every profound move for solution he would either fault or dismiss it outrightly, only because he wants his postulation and supposition that someone shouldn't have being in power to come to past? So, why won't he concentrate attack on individual? I guess he will hardly take to your advice. He's pained seriously.

barcanista, take note of the above perfect "adjective".

Boss13:
Well with the president position and fight against corruption and illicit proceeds, our transparency international rating will improve and likewise, our anti-money laundering rating for FAT F. This will enable countries to consider doing business with us because the stringent rules will be relaxed and transactions emanating from Nigeria will be considered legitimate transactions.

Now you see why the fight against corruption is very important. It is like what the Christians call being Born Again and when old things are foregone and all things being new

Hehehe, I'm a Christian, you're right on the money. This country needs to be born again literally.

plaetton:
An AI plugged into the World Wide Webb would instantly be tuned into nearly all interactive information on the planet, both past and in the present.

To take this speculation further, A quantum computer or Ai with quantum computing capability would be the closes thing to a GOD.
This is not a joke.
It would be omniscience, omnipresent, and omnipotent in what it could do.

But, without emotions, without an evolutionary history, it would be smart, but not wise.
It would most likely mark the end of human civilization as we know it.

This is most foolish considering the fact that it is not sure joke. Do you even know what it means to be omnipresent? How can ai be omnipresent when it needs mtn and 3G and diesel generator to get network and access knowledge and make silly updates? What kind of local omnipresence that cannot get to my village or even to the next planets? Where is the omniscience when AI don't know what I'm thinking or what will happen in two hours time? Do you think everybody is on Wikipedia? Or where will AI get information for it's omnipresence? Obviously, you don't know what is omnipotence. However, don't be so blown away by machines made to make life easier. I don't praise my amplifier because it's louder than i am, or a tractor or bulldozer built stronger than me for physical work, or my calculator that doesn't make mistakes. Don't get high on AI, its artificial.

DeepSight:
Please just check out a poster called Viaro, if you want to see really serious differences of views by the way. I also like that poster very much but intensely disagree with his Christian dogma. Ditto: Davidylan, Inesqor, and Noetic especially.

One poster who is without doubt among the finest minds to have ever graced this forum is Mr. Anony. Again, I disagree with much of his christian views, while agreeing with some. Jayriginal is also a fine mind, but I do not agree with his views. Pastor AIO, a wasteful futilist who prefers to talk to the wind. Mazaje, is a wonderful poster, who calls himself atheist but is hardly really so. There used to be a poster called KAG. Utterly brilliant but I do not agree with her atheistic views and most of what she wrote here. Thehomer, I have hardly heard anyone speak more nonsense.

Anyway, since I happen to be on the subject of reviewing co posters here, I must say that there are some really noble souls.

Beer parlour talk.

Nostalgic for a moment there.Some of them names do ring a bell.

atlwireles:
Thousands of Nigerians living outside the country send products to their business partners and family members to sell on their behalf, thereafter return their monies back to them. This policy is going do damaged to these group of people. Many small import businesses have already been excluded from the forex market, even though their products are not prohibited, how will they make payments for products around the world?

This is another knee jerk reaction from the CBN, which will do the Naira and the economy no good.

Form A and M are viable options. Also, some business can be done with naira accounts. Hopefully, other countries would be forced to change policies and accept payments from naira accounts and cards if they want business to flow well like before. i think I'm loving Buharinomics.

iretiland:
There is an urgent need to get this Dullard Emefiele out before he crashes the whole economy. It is only the dullard of the dullard that will hold the kind of office this man currently hold and think he can wage a successful war against the world's foremost currency, the USD. Emefiele lacks any economic brain.

Lol, you that have economic brain, what do you suggest?

owobokiri:
In less than 24 hours, he is already firing and hiring people he barely knows. . Obviously, he reading a script handed down to him by the emperor at Aso.

Lol, if a man "hits the ground running", na complain. If he doesn't, na still complain. Read his profile, appointment is not rocket science. Buhari and his team also appointed a okay transition team in short time BTW.

copiescopy:
That awkward moment u view most of the pics from the government house and it then seems to look like this country is been run by the Hausas only and the Yoruba folks playing second fiddle

And there was some special benefits or progress when the country was run by other tribes? It matters more to have competent people, even foreign expatriates sef than some useless incompetent relative and kinsman who will just give us bad name.