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Emperoh:
What a sad day. One day, we shall all stand before God to answer our sins.

Prevez and Bush are all humans and must go the way of all humans.

may her Soul rest in perfect peace.

Blame those notorious pacifists,the adherents of "the religion of peace"

@TOH

The Titanic and The English Patient are the film versions of the Mills and Boon Series which every female is "duty bound" to watch. . . . .so I thought anyway

I should catch up on the Jesse James movie soon.Every person should go and watch JFK.Its a brilliant movie,historical tosh,but absolutely brilliant._{good thing Seun no longer bans folks for going off topic}

@rikkyjen

Are you saying the US had nothing to do with my atrocious egusi soup ?

Of course the US is responsible for the poor state of Nigerian roads.How ? Well its responsible for the 25% of fossil fuel emissions which have precipitated increased global warming.One of the symptoms of increased global warming is climate change-have you seen the data on increased rainfall in West Africa? Hope you are still with me. . . .this increased rainfall has led to major soil erosions and has made our roads even more susceptible to damage owing to the unprecedented rainfall.

You see,so the US is at fault

That was a classic! Which kind of movies you dey watch sef ? Titanic,The English Patient ?

@TOH

You haven't seen JFK ?

That is the contemporary source of the JFK conspiracy theories

@Big B1

Does the US want IBB in power? I am suspecting they do,see how they failed to protect IBB's enemies like Major Orkar and Gen Vatsa

tosinadeda:
its what i feel, and i feel its correct but really jokes apart i bilieve its the handwork of bush

You mean that mythical demon who is simultaneously a bumbling fool and an evil genius! The man is responsible for the bad egusi soup I ate last night

ThiefOfHearts:
Actually in regards to the Kennedy family, Yes they did.

Kevin Costner might be a "ladies man" but that doesn't make him a source of historical accuracy

Big B1:
I am not blaming United States for anything, This is nothing but a mere speculation.

Where is these guys from?

At the very least,you are suggesting that if an eminent politician dies,he or she wasn't a strong US ally.Maybe JFK or Ahmed Shah Masood(founder of the Northen Alliance) weren't part of the "impenetrable" US protection scheme.For God's sake,even Reagan was shot.

Big B1:
Just keep in mind that if United States wants you around, they will makesure you stay around.
United States continues to successfully protect Pervez Musharraft, Afghanistan president, the prime minister and president of Iraq.

The problem with this logic,overwhelming evidence to the contrary notwithstanding,is that the US is automatically blamed if someone dies.If the US "makes sure you stay around",those who don't stay around couldn't have been US allies.You have to be historically illiterate to believe this, innumerable US allies have died in the past.

Bhutto wasn't a head of state unlike the 3 you cited,thus she didn't have the privileges of using the full security resources of the state to protect her.She was essentially a private citizen.You are effectively suggesting that the US can protect whomsoever they like wheresoever.That is obscenely naive

tosinadeda:
what do u expect when musharaf has the backing of America open your eyes, this is global politics

Bhutto come get the "fronting" of America

davidylan:
This is perhaps the signal that Pakistan is another Afghanistan waiting in the wings. . . the only problem is now the islamists would have a nuclear detterent.

I don't think Pakistan will go down that route.It has a large educated middle-class and secularist ideals run deeply in Pakistan,except the NW Province.However,same was said about Iran until the Mullahs took over so you never know.

I still think there are enough people who don't share or aren't susceptible to the Islamists worldview to prevent such a takeover

Don't know how reliable these sources are:

Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.

Death squads were allegedly constituted for the mission and ultimately one cell comprising a defunct Lashkar-i-Jhangvi’s Punjabi volunteer succeeded in killing Bhutto.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1710322437

nwando:
Are you saying she chopped money?
OSANOBUA!!!!!!!!!
was she madam Etteh in a hijab?
I didn't know that part o

she still didn't deserve to be killed like a dog.
No one deserves to die in such an undignified manner

The woman too like "good thing". http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E1D61F3EF935A3575BC0A9659C8B63&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article393637.ece

The problem with Pakistan is that their security forces have long been infiltrated by jihadists and many harbor pro-fundamentalist sympathies.Musharaf would have nothing to gain in killing her but in such a chaotic situation,mud sticks to even "innocent people".

I thought it was a stupid idea for the State Dept to push for Musharaf to co-opt Bhutto into power.Her popularity is overstated,especially in the West were people are dazzled by her "beauty",eloquence and moderate image.She represents the kind of Muslim people want to see.Unfortunately in Pakistan,that counts for nothing.She was largely seen as a US puppet and her popularity,to the extent she had any, owed largely to her family background.

I believe Taliban/ISI/al-Qaeda sympathisers are behind this.Musharaf needs to set up an independent inquiry to deflect some of the flack and find those who were complicit in this. I don't think the elections would hold.Nobody benefits from this except Islamists who want to see the country descend into chaos.Even Sharif of the Muslim League who has been trying to milk her death is not a good position to benefit

Carlosein:
Ehmm, hope you are not saying this is an excuse for her assassination

The praise singing was getting a bit over the top.She was corrupt and inept.She contributed significantly to bring Pakistan to financial ruins.

She once supported the Taliban,seeing them as a convenient tool to determine events in neighboring Afghanistan.The Taliban experiment eventually got out of hand.Afghanistan became a cesspool of International Islamic terrorists. Inevitably,the jihadists problem seeped into Pakistan and may ultimately have led to her murder.The country is now the epicentre for organisations like al-Qaeda and their ilk.

@Debo

There is inevitably going to be suspicions surrounding Musharaf because he warned against Bhutto returning and claimed that there would be havoc if she returned.He was opposed to it but was arm twisted by US State Dept "geniuses" who thought it will be a bright idea to have her in power in place or alongside Musharaf who was fast losing credibility amongst Pakistanis and thus was beginning to be a liability to the US.

I still think Islamists killed her,there have been claims of responsibility be Al-Qaeda,but Musharaf or those around him(rogue members of the security services)would still be under a cloud of suspicion

Big B1:
I do not know much about Bhutto and her strong objectives; I'm currently doing some research to get familiar to the circumstance, but at the same time BABASIN may be making a reasonable point.

Even though the relationship is very unstable, but United States still sees Pervez Musharraf as a friend. The last thing US needs is starting from the beginning to establish a new relationship with a very strong potential prime minister with a totally different agenda (whom may not welcome US unfriendly policies and make things a lot more difficult for them to accomplish their goals in that area).
You just never know, anything is possible.

Its typical isn't.You admit you don't know much about Bhutto but you then proceed to analyse the possible implication of having her in power,you are discussing the implications of having someone in power who you know little about.

If you knew anything about Bhutto,you would know that the US pressured Musharraf on behalf of her.She was a strong US ally when she was in power . Bhutto even said she will allow US troops into Pakistan to hunt Bin Laden and also allow the US direct access to interogate Ayub Khan.It was due to US pressure that Musharaf allowed Bhutto to come back in the first place

Ehmm . . . .lets not forget that she was indicted by Swiss magistrates for money laundering and was investigated by French and Polish authorities for same.

Fergie must have been longing to shave his head anyway to enter into a bet with Ronaldo.What was the target set for Ronnie?

With Ronaldo,its like Utd are playing with 3 strikers-Ronnie,Tevez and Rooney. Gooners are busy playing with one.

If he maintains his form,he is a shoo-in for other awards.He must be worth at least £40m in transfer fees.Every time he gets the ball,you feel something major is going to happen.I have never seen a more exciting player in a United shirt.

Do you know that Wenger once pilloried the fee we paid for Ronaldo? The pedophile was interested but thought the amount was too much.I thought he had "an eye for little boys" How much did that sucker pay for Reyes anyway?£16m

He must be kicking himself at the moment.Now he has Theo Walcott and £16m Reyes was a complete dud!

@HNIC

Shut the hell up,you blind plonker! Where you not gloating in September,dimwit? Suddenly giving us advice. . . . .bloody schmuck.

@OgaV

Ade is not the sole root of the problem.Any striker will struggle at Arsenal if they play 4-5-1.However,you have to be a world class striker to play the lone striker role effectively,Ade is not that quality

Its okay if you are surrounded by goal scoring midfielders prepared to break their neck to enter the box and make up the numbers.Rosicky and Hleb aren't such and only Cesc provides that but he hasn't been doing so lately.

Damn. . . even Saha(Ghost Worker) turned up yesterday !When even a ghost turns up for a football team,the opposition have no hope Utd fans were singing,"this is so bleeping easy"!

Ronaldo is a magician.His freekicks are getting better and better.He now knows hos to dink it over the wall,instead of just hitting with power.He had more shots on goal yesterday than the entire Arse team had against Pompey What reamins is learning how to curl the ball round the wall,instead of over the wall.

nwando:
I hope the rest of her family flee to Britain and leave that God forsaken Pakistan for good.
Islama[b]bad [/b] is really a bad place to live.

Chukwu ekwena Let them flee to the US instead.

Did someone say Arsenal can't play 4-4-2 against Everton? What the hell. . . . United played 4-4-2 there and didn't concede.What about your £8m? "new Henry",Eduardo.What did they sign him for. . . . the Carling Cup

So you are too scared to play 2 strikers against Everton? Arsenal must play to their strenghts.Ever since you started playing 4-5-1,you have been struggling to score goals-5 league goals in your last 5 league games-that is the root of your problem.

If you are too intimidated to play 2 strikers against bloody Everton of all teams,you are completely useless.Even Madrid played 3 attackers-Raul,Van Nistlerooy and Robinho-against Barca at the Nou Camp,with Baptista and Sneider behind them,they were still solid.

ugepboy:
The most interesting scene of yesterday's melodrama at portsmouth was when Niko Kranjcar took on little Sagna, I laughed until I spilled my Heineken. It was a sorry sight.

He was spinning Lasagna around so much,the ugly pillock looked like those reggae musicians dancing in on of those 80s music videos.

It used be, " 3 of our 4 best midfielders are still out","we are playing many away games in quick succession". . . . .now its,"you don't win the League in December".Idiots. . . .should have known that all the while.

Are Gooners still in denial? You want to win the Prem with Ade as your lead striker The donkey has scored 6 of his 10 goals against Derby and Spurs(the "best" defences in the Prem)

What is it now. . . .5 goals in your last 5 league games.Any person with at least half a brain can see that Arsenal's problem transcends this single game.

Can you imagine. . . .Wenger accused Dirty Harry of being too negative. The man is a bloody nuisance.Are Pompey supposed to play in a way that suits Arsenal?

I can see the blind HNIC is cautioning on gloating about being on top in December.Funny,he was gloating about being on top in September 1million points clear with 1 billion games in hand. . . .bloody plonker !

babasin:
there you go. she was already two-time president. The same islamic country is more open to WOMEN president than your US-DEMOCRAZY.

Musharraf invited her to come since he needs her to win election before he dream-up his coup-strategy--

The way you reason is appalling.Bhutto was the subject of visceral hatred from fundamentalists.That she was a victim of a suicide bombing wouldn't in itself entail that she was killed by extremists but they wanted this outcome for her.

How does the USA benefit from Bhutto's death when most Pakistanis will tell you that she was effectively seen as a US minion.She was closer to the US than Musharaf ever was.I have seen her several times defending US foreign policy from Iraq to Afghanistan and every Pakistani will tell you that she was one of the most pro-US leaders Pakistan ever had in Govt.

When the facts don't fit your prejudice,you bend them to fit.

debosky:
Now this is P'mouth, a very good side, we haven't won there since '04, so its not at all surprising or 'a result of a trend' that we would drop points there - given the number of our ex-players who are up there, and the generally good form of the side all season.

Debosky back at his best!Nobel nominee for The Most Inane Footballing Excuses.It didn't take long,did it?His brain is permanently in excuse-making mode-No of ex-players,generally good form,haven't won there since '04-Bloody hell!!The boy is an Obssesive Compulsive Excusesionist

Strange thing happened today.I checked out the Guardian site,looking for the League table shortly after the Sunderland game,before Arsenal played Pompey.It mistakenly credited Arsenal with 19 games but a point behind Utd,as if the Pompey game had been played !What an omen Those guys at the Guardian are a prescient lot

Talking about prescience,Martin Samuel,Times journalist,predicted on Sunday that Arsenal would finish at least 10 points behind Utd come May! Hope the Fat Bastard is bloody right for once!

@lawyer

Who is supposed to read that pile of drivel? Your whole screed could have been aptly summarised into,Gooners are shite!

@Jackal

Suddenly,they ain't telling us that "the table doesn't lie"! They are even suggesting that the table might have delved into some dishonesty.I used to think Mr Table was the most honest dude ever to exist.Now Gooners are saying Mr Table might be a tad bit deceptive.Who would have thought so ? Certainly not Gayners who crowned themselves Prem League 1/3rd Champions!

Have you seen the rapid descent of that King of Delusion,Debosky,into a gibbering twaddle talking,senile lunatic? Do you have any pills for him?Its not February yet and he has lost the plot

@Debo

Surely you are not too traumatised by the result to note that I haven't made one single prediction about Arsenal that hasn't come true.Match day 10,games against Liverpool and Boro ? Go and pour a bucket of water over yourself .

Its not even February yet and you are sounding like a elderly Alzheimers patient. What are you going to do when you drop down to 3rd place?

You played City and Sevilla at home in the last 2months? This is getting serious Do you remember your name? Are you suffering from a fever? Weren't the games against Villa and Chelski slug fests? What's your point? Its only December and you are gibbering like a lunatic!

Have a lie down and figure out why you struggle to beat sides like Wigan and Steau Bucharest

debosky:
Where was blackburn last Wednesday? The South of France?

Or wait. . .Portsmouth is now a Northern Club?? Bloody scumtwats. . .I shouldn't expect better.

rant all you want. . .lets observe and see what happens.

Blackburn? You also beat Sheffield United also but you are too busy seeing stars from the pounding you got against Pompey to see we are talking of the Prem League .Are you mistaking the League Cup for the Prem? Maybe your confidence all along has been in respect of the League Cup,should have told us then.We wouldn't have bothered with your deluded lot.

Almost half way through the League and you haven't won a single game in the North Pompey in the North? Says who. . . .this is what happens when Gayners have spent an evening screaming at the telly and ordering loads of anti-depressants off the net

Kind of reminds me of that convo you were having with yourself.You still hear voices in your head? What are the voices telling you today ? That the FA would switch winnners of the Carling Cup with that of the League ?