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Foreign Affairs › Re: Karim Khan: This Is The ICC Prosecutor Who Issued An Arrest For Netanyahu(photo) by IMEI: 11:41am On Nov 22, 2024
The ICC Prosecutor applied for the issuance of a warrant, the Judges of the Hague approved and issued the warrant

There's a difference...the OP should do an exposé on the Judges who are actually responsible for the warrants, but he won't because they're not Muslims and can't use the Islamist propaganda against them

Hasbara bot
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:58pm On Nov 21, 2024
WritterNg:
⚡U.S. Senator Graham calls ICC arrest warrants against Netenyahu and Gallant as "outrageous":

Warning that the U.S. could be targeted next, Graham says, “If we do not act forcefully against the ICC…we are making a huge mistake.”

To counter this, Graham says he plans to introduce legislation targeting nations that support the ICC’s actions, stating:

“Any nation that joins with the ICC after this outrage is a partner in a reckless act that tramples the rule of law.”
People only remain in a state of subjugation so long as they don't realize the truth

Once the truth becomes clear, subjugation becomes untenable to the subjugated and the inevitable struggle for liberation begins

Once this happens, then it becomes a matter of time before it's achieved

The US is in no position to dictate to the world anymore, closed eyes have opened, never to be closed again by them

But just like every dying power, it'll take a while for them to realize the extent of their decline and will only accept when it's too late
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 11:30pm On Nov 18, 2024
Vic2023:
Welcome
Thanks bro
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:52pm On Nov 18, 2024
So yesterday I was having an exchange with obedience4 about the YPG and he asked me for proofs of them attacking civilians and also claimed to have no knowledge they used suicide bombings

As I posted a reply with several links proving they use suicide bombings and that they've been documented to attack and abuse civilians, I was banned and my comment was deleted

My ban has just expired and now I'm back

This is the second time obedience4 will make assertions with no knowledge of what he's talking about

Human Rights organizations like Human Rights watch, Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and Amnesty International have documented violations by PYD/YPG, which include, arbitrary killings, torture, forced disappearances among others, against civilians

All it would have taken would have been a little research and obedience4 wouldn't have spoken in ignorance. This is the second such example of ignorant assertions on his part, the first being the Mandela episode with him

I've attached two pics:

Pic 1 is a proof of the ban I was placed on

Pic 2 & 3 are links to the reality of the US' main Syrian ally the YPG for anyone interested in checking them out

Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:17pm On Nov 17, 2024
obedience4:
😅😅😅😅

Go through my posts I stated and I quote" The YPG do not kill or attack civilians"
until you can prove otherwise I won't be drawn into a worthless back and forth

Yes suicide bombings are OK, at long as it is targeted against combatants.
You've answered one, now answer the other

Does the YPG use suicide bombings?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:11pm On Nov 17, 2024
obedience4:
😅😅😅

Remember what now clown?? The last thing I can reminisce from the irksome discuss with you was your constant tendency to jumb from pillar to post.

Still waiting for your evidence to show the YPG killing and attacking civilians.
Let's continue from where we stopped

Does the YPG use suicide bombings and are suicide bombings now okay?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:03pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Yes, the clown 🤡 who can't properly interpret a legal provision.
The arrogantly ignorant one misses the opportunity to learn and develop due to the inability to humble himself

The above describes you
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 8:01pm On Nov 17, 2024
obedience4:
Are you not the clown who couldn't secern between the YPG and the PKK??

🤡🤡🤡😅😅
huh

You couldn't respond properly because your knowledge of the topic was extremely shallow...if I remember correctly

The receipts are there, attempts at false claims and revisionism are pointless
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:57pm On Nov 17, 2024
motayoayinde:
They're not very smart people after all.
They're smarter than their gentile supporters though
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:55pm On Nov 17, 2024
obedience4:
Pillar to post

Bright bulbs indeed
Someone who insists on Mandela being like Gandhi couldn't identify a bright bulb even if it made him blind
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 7:49pm On Nov 17, 2024
obedience4:
So one Israel soldier is now the yardstick to gauge a whole nation.

Bright bulbs
Are you still confusing Mandela for Gandhi?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 5:05pm On Nov 17, 2024
From the picture, you can see clear evidence that israel wants peace with the predominantly Muslim Middle East

Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:53pm On Nov 17, 2024
Lawag3:
What's the point of debunking?


You can't debunk genuine facts.

You debunk what doest have a sound base as you said.
You debunk lies manufactured from salient facts. E.g lies created from a premise rooted in facts

Lies built on nothing are left for what they are...nothing

You debunk to set the facts straight

Guess which category yours falls into
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:43pm On Nov 17, 2024
Mille:
I tire o.

No one will fight over the descendants of traitors.
grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:22pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Don't hide guy. There is nothing anonymous about me. My name and picture had been posted here several times. There are people who know me physically and can describe me to you. So, am not anonymous.
Gbadebo it's not deep, enjoy your day
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:17pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Sorry to say. I swear, you are mad. You don't understand human beings at all. Am done with you.
Anonymity is good...you have no idea who you're talking to

grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:14pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Let me respond to your number 4. Whether you like it or not, as long as there is no verifiable history to support your position, you can never win. Your populatuon doesn't matter. Take for instance, Ilorin Nigeria has an 80% population of Yorubas. Now the question is:
If Nigeria were to break up today, Who owns Ilorin? Yoruba or Fulani? Let me see your view
More like so long as you're unwilling to concede

Either way, these are factual events and it's not about winning or losing, but facts and fiction
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:09pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Let me respond to your number 4. Whether you like it or not, as long as there is no verifiable history to support your position, you can never win. Your populatuon doesn't matter. Take for instance, Ilorin Nigeria has an 80% population of Yorubas. Now the question is:
If Nigeria were to break up today, Who owns Ilorin? Yoruba or Fulani? Let me see your view
Why should this be an issue? Ilorin people will decide for themselves
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:08pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Can you please avail me with the Internationally recognised borders of 1967
The green on the right is the West Bank, which 80% of is covered in scattered Israeli settlements

Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:03pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Don't let's argue further. Can we just agree that Israelites had a longer history on the land more than the Palestinians? 1000 years BC to the 7th century is quite long. Do you agree?
DNA evidence says otherwise, so no, we can't agree

But if you want to stop it here, no problem
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:02pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
I am getting tired of you now.
You know something? Let's start from 1948 or if you have any historical fact or documented evidence that we can use to render the UN creation of Israel as illegal. Cest finis
You're seemingly confused

As far as I know, no challenge to the bolded has been put up, so what's the point of mentioning it?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 4:00pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
My friend, as an objective learned colleague. If a thief lives next door to you and continually burgles your home, as a reasonable human being, what would you do even after several communal intervention, the thief never stops.
Is this even an answer?

How does the above you posted justify settlement building?

This isn't something hypothetical, these are real life happenings, parables don't apply here
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI:
Gbadebo19:
Let us give you the benefit of the doubt.
1. Palestine had no history
2. Israel had no claim
3. In 1948, justice was done by demarcating the land between two opposing elements. Rather than abide, Palestine claims they own the land (without proof) and keeps attacking Israel. Israel responds and Palestine is crying. Where does that leaves us?

Or don't tell me your view is that Israel shouldn't exist. If so, can you provide any historical fact or documented evidence that can be used to render the 1948 demarcation as illegal? If you can do this, I swear, I will respect you forever.
You're going to give who the benefit of doubt? Lol

1. I never said Palestine had no history
2. Israel had a claim, but was it credible? That's the issue in question
3. When the British occupied Palestine, Palestinians were present on the land, how you claimed there's no proof of that is bewildering to say the least
4. How do you define as justice giving 55% of land to 30% of the population at the time? Palestinians made up 70% of the population and were given 45% of a land they were living on for centuries, while the majority was given to foreign immigrants who were 30% of the population
5. Whether israel should exist or not isn't my concern. What's my concern is, is that a Palestinian State should exist based on the Internationally recognized borders of 1967
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:40pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Guy, it seems that you think the reason why Israel is fighting Palestinians today is because of biblical history of Gaza and the likes belonging to them. Don't get confused, we all know this is not true. By the partition of 1948, the borders of Israel was demarcated and the only reason why there is no peace in that region is because of the relentless attacks from Arab nations and Palestinians which forces Israel to push them backwards. Israel occupying those Gaza and Golan heights etc is a result of them loosing the war they started and that is nobody's fault.
Even till today, everyone knows that loosing war comes with loosing land especially if you share borders. If I am wrong, why is Egypt not claiming Gaza, what about Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and the likes. Why is it some random people (Palestinians) claiming lands that belongs to other sovereign nations.
Why does Israel continuously seize Palestinian land and build settlements? Why does Israel continue to annex Palestinian territory? Are those the result of wars?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:38pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
You are very funny!!!
By the way, I never said you did.
It is actually absurd for you to state that the reason why Italians never lay claim was because it is not legitimate in the 21st century. How can you use a conquest of over a thousand years ago and use a 21st century legality to justify reasons.
Hasn't that been what you've been arguing all this while? undecided
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:37pm On Nov 17, 2024
Lawag3:
You debunk it if it's false.
Debunk what has no sound basis?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI:
Gbadebo19:
It is absolutely useless and no one is using it. You are the ones going back and forth on the legality of Israel to exist as a nation.
United Nations already partitioned the land, recognising the right of both Israel and Palestine to exist. (Two state solution)
It is you people who believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist that bring up stories which necessitate the need to tell you that what you are even claiming never belonged to you. Okay, no biblical stories, can you cough up anything document or history that established that Palestinians were the original owners of ancient Judea?
You're literally the one who denied Palestinians the land because according to you they had no king and no history on the land. But now you're flipping it on me, claiming I'm denying israel's right to exist

You used israel's purported ancient history to attribute ownership to them, while denying same for Palestinians on account of a purported lack of history

As for me, my arguments have always been grounded in legal facts. You trying to spin things again is just plain old tomfoolery from you

The fact remains, take away the biblical and religious elements, most of you can't properly make a case for israel and even the religiously driven arguments require shutting off objective reasoning and self-reflection
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical Israel. Definitely!!
This is the only sensible thing you have said in the last 17 years grin but you failed to realize that the Italians never lay claim to the land, they only established their government there and allowed the Jews to continue calling it theirs. In those times, you live according to the will of your captors.
I never claimed they did, I only deduced using your logic or illogic

Do you know why the Italians didn't lay claim based on historical conquests? Because it's not a legitimate or legal basis under any existing laws in the 21st Century. That absurdity lies with israel and it's supporters

Absurd elements/supporters like you
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:16pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Hope you know histories have a timeline and things occur one after the other.
We are talking about how the state of Israel initially existed to how Judea came to be known as Palestine. I just wonder how people like you just happen to believe that a group of people who never had a king, never had a capital, never had a currency can legitimately own a land.
Even Africans that were termed uncivilised by the colonial masters had cowry shells as money, we had a seat for the king. Come on, don't be dumb.
What's the relevance of biblical historical stories to issues of territorial dispute under International Law? Palestine and Israel conflict in focus
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 3:08pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Are you blind? Did you not see conquest?
The conquest is a biblical story, I agree. But you forget that it is the same biblical stories that ever established the first existence of the fundamental human right to religion in the code of Hammurabi.
Isn't it hypocritical to use biblical stories to establish the first ever documented human right and then turn against it when it talks about Jewish conquest?
From stating:

"Who's giving you biblical stories?" to admitting that the whole basis of the claim of ownership, the conquest you mentioned, is a biblical story

You see why I don't take most of you seriously

If you believe biblical Jews conquering the land eons ago entitles them to claims of ownership today, then I guess Italians have a stronger claim due to the Roman conquest of biblical israel
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 2:54pm On Nov 17, 2024
Gbadebo19:
Who is giving you biblical stories? I am telling you of historical facts and the actions of Emperor Hadrian who renamed ancient Judea to Palestine simply because he wanted to wipe out every trace of Jewish history because they seriously opposed his government (Do you see that in any Bible?)
The biggest mistake you make is to think the ancient Philistines are the current day Palestinians.
That place came to belong to biblical Jews through conquest which was a valid means as at that time. Are you now satisfied? Or you want me to school you like a kindergarten pupil?
Please school me but provide sound references as well

Still my question is valid. If there were people on the land before Jews ever set foot on it, what makes them the owner?

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