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frank317:
This one pass u right?

So you sometimes think you might be worshipping a mad man?

it takes fervent research to liberate one from this bondage.He is certainly not in your levels.You are a free man.Cheers

tempem:
If it were before, I'll waste my precious time to reason from the scriptures with people like you, but mehn not again! I'll only sit and laugh at you guys...... After having nothing reasonable to think about you'll come here and write trash, why not publish it. Well, I need not blame you guys, after all Everyone is free to air his or her own opinion. ... Even if you like call God anything that comes to mind. It's your opinion.....

from the reasonable points of my write up. Don't you think you are beign judged for nothing from god. Your sexual urges is high because god made it so,right and still punishes you when you naturally exhibit your nature.animals would not go into judgement for using theirs but you will be judged for practically the same nature.Lmao

According to The Bible,evil existed before the creation of Adam and Eve.It is very important to know that these creatures are weak, imperfect ,have low receptive memory and highly pervious to mistakes. The platform which circles our race its such that we must operate on that platform to survive ie we struggle for food,we battle sexual urges,we would shelter our self,cover our unclothedness,pay bills etc. Now this is a gargantuan task because we enter into a fierce competition with our fellow humans to fulfill this needs. Added to that he allowed the chief master evil(well,according to bible) to tempt you,to make life miserable for you,now at the end of the day,we are still sent to hell fire for operating in our platform.Last time i verified,animals are not sentenced to torture for operating in their own platform.

As this competition intesifies,people resort to ultra-demeaning means to gratify their human urge in expense of their fellows,the aftermath of this is such that the victim becomes more hardened and evil thereby inflicting pain on another human,the circle continues,Hence the saying 'evil begats evil'. Now the all-knowing knows all this that the circle (survival of the fittest) would always be repeated by unborn humans - ie more billions of humans to be judged by God for practising evil.Why woudn't he halt procreation to fix the error that keep repeating itself? So they are born to be judged ,This is unjust and cruel for a God who is often painted as LOVE. Any christian who would solve this mystery would be appreciated.

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cloudgoddess
johnydon22
sonOflucifer

cloudgoddess:
I agree with most of your post, but a few things:

1. I'm sure you're aware of the global statistics regarding the inverse relationship between a country's religiousity, and its health, GDP, scientific & educational progress, peace index, etc. How do you imagine that these mostly atheistic countries get along peacefully without religion?

the malfeasance monopoly of our political system is based on achieving selfish interest. The stats are misleading if its based on religion alone.Religion is not solely the culprit here.
Every action has an equal reaction,activity that transgresses moral or civil law should be penalized to maintain law and other in the society irrespective of one's religious stand.It strikes a balance.

cloudgoddess:
2. Quite a few psychological studies have been done investigating the nature of human wellbeing and what factors contribute most to it. Intimate (not necessarily romantic, but deep & meaningful) relationships, sufficient (but not necessarily extravagant) living wages, and contributing to the happiness of others in meaningful ways (i.e. sincere volunteer work, providing healthcare to others, or simply showing kindness) have been shown to be some of the most telling contributors to human life satisfaction. Do you think religion would still be necessary for hope & purpose if people were to embrace & pursue goals like these en masse?

No! You see,because of that religion was invented to instill the fear of supernatural.The competive nature of human platform is to be blamed,there is no way this notion of yours would be possible because evil would always begat evil .

Hey Bro, this thread is useless in my own opinion. Freedom is attained by digressing from ass-worshiping,embracing solitude and thinking outside the box.Its not easy but certainly not impossible. At the end the soul redeems itself from varying arrays of bondage accompanying the sheepish believe of a certain god. What Religion brought to the table is always fear,and mental bondage. Now don't get me wrong,despite beign an agnostic i love Religion.Religion is a tool to interweave,curb and restrain the infiniteness of the obdulate human mind, yes,human mind is powerful and capable of wandering beyond control which is catastrophic to societal norm,the fear of God reduces that to an extent ATLEAST. Imagine if your parents told you that you'll live just to die someday. Religion submits hope and purpose.Although judging from hindsight religion has employ more damage than repair. But who knows what the absence of religion might have done to the human race,probably more damage by far DON'T get upset when Atheist discover the bitter truth. And mind you,ITS THE FACT

homeboy205:
Enlighten me please mr, this is a good story you got here but what happens to our soul after death? I know our body decay but lately I've been doing a soul thinking and thinking something else about our soul beside going to hell to burn... Please what do you think happen to the soul after death...

Thank you

No one can give a candid suppositions of our state after the physical death,the after life is another dimension We all had a feeling we've been here before so the believe of reincarnation is even more straightforward than the blurry concept of heaven and paradise.( if these heaven is in the andromeda gallaxy or constellation sef ) just like the animals,we share range of dimensional similarities,eat,poo,fight,rage,sex,survival of the fittest,steal,feelings,Death,etc.So in essence we should stop feeling too important.When we die,we lost the conciousness from our human brain but the real conciousness that is our spirit lives on but in another depth. Goat,dogs,mosquitoes,cockroaches and micro bacterias and organisms are eequally the same conciousness no different from us.So enjoy the Here and Now thats your best bet.So when you die your human conciousness(brain,mind) is halted,another which is still inexplicable floats on.

So you believe going to hell to burn stuff.Ayyy!! The truth is the shadowy concept of god was created by humans but cannot be fully deciphered by the human brain.The maker of the Universe can't be a low life, and can't interact in our dimension. Jehovah (thats if there is any beign like that)or whatever you call him still finds it fun to interact in our dimension.To govern us.Lmao

erusen:
yea thanks ,am just sad this morning,we just lost a nairalander by name Freeman Dave, whose signature:I am a freeman David,a philosopher and sapiosexual

what a world!!! A liberated mind gone. may He RIP

nelsonoba:
Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.

smh. hypnotism is real.if i ever ran out of finances,my exit route is to open a church and plunder them fools.Enough said.

erusen:
sounds cool I became an agnostic just two months ago,my story long your own

the number of atheist,freethinkers and agnostics are on daily rise.next millenium,the world would have move out of religion.The truth is rare and bitter. Welcome to the real world bro.

Are we watching Musa the warrior 2.0. Where thousands were decimated because of one woman

8gb storage Wetin i dey do with this s.hit.

Muafrika2:
Where have you been seeing these creatures?

Most of what you are saying is right. Not sure about some things here

most of what i said here happens in the dream state.Although they can manifest themselves in the physical,but its super rare because they have a thing or two about being invisible and unnoticed.

My religious views is Atheist, maybe an atheist who do not believe in the christian,jewish,buddish,islam god but due to my personal experience,i acknowledge the existence of guides or guards,demons,succubus and incubus,dark forces,positive and negative energies,third,fourth and fifth dimensions. This is true and the real deal,you wouldn't like to go thru my experience to believe,save yourself from the terror.wish to remark in my observation of these brutally hostile creatures (perhaps in the hopes it is of some use to others, or leads to a discovery down the line).

As a prelude, it appears messing with, or being involved with, either the occult, spells, or anything pagan (EG inviting spirits, boards, etc) will mark you for an attack (one individual expressed surprise when I said they used a spell as to how on earth I knew that - they had 'mysteriously appearing' scratches).

My observations on the creatures:

1) The creatures appear to be parasitic in actions and form.
2) Their height variation is rather diverse, ranging from very short (less than 4ft?) to very tall (8ft or taller). It hard to tell if it same species or several variations of a similar species.
3) They appear to be adapted (strangely, as a parasite) as carnivores: sharp claws, sharp teeth. Capable of tearing through or ripping flesh easily. Contrast the human form: non-sharp nails, non-sharp teeth. By logical deduction, we're 'lower' on the food chain.
4) They Love sex to the extreme, i remember experiencing an ultra-real sex in the dream, very reala than in the human dimension i now understand why they love it,They do not appear to wear clothes. Why is not entirely clear.
5) They are capable of numerous, even extremely dated, languages - including coptic Greek.
6) They are intelligent, capable of reading minds, psychopathic to a degree not even seen in most human psychopaths, and have serious resentment/control/jealousy issues, stemming from what I can only describe as a very bizarre inferiority complex.
7) They are several times stronger than humans. The lack of 'disabled' species is rather intriguing. It is primarily male dominated, and I have yet to encounter a female.
They appear to operate in a dimension 'super imposed' upon ours. We are asleep in whatever actual realm they occupy (the 'real' world), where-as this seems to be a superimposed facade. Hence why injuries leave no marks or permanent marks (that is to say, this world's 'asleep' form has the appearance of no injuries, even if your real world body - which I'd presume is in a permanent sleep state - suffers injuries).
9) They are fallible, and at times, gullible. They can be outsmarted, however this is difficult given they seem to read and/or project thoughts.

10) Very few substances affect them, due to the lack of physical presence (and the noted distinctions above about superimposed dimensions). According to the true story based 'the entity' movie, liquid hydrogen is capable of freezing them (as they have some form of mass, although it's not in the form we anticipate). They seem to be ionised or affected by ionic elements (showers seem to impede the sensation, and bath water has a somewhat reductive effect - however, limited). Clothes seem to reduce effects versus bare skin, but the effects are not that noticeable.
11) They will try to intimidate, manipulate, threaten, abuse or otherwise use any and every malicious underhanded trick to try to leverage control.
12) When in a sleep-state, certain states allow for limited (very limited, as though groggy or drunk) movement where-by the entity can be physically touched, repulsed, and in some cases, hit or bitten (however, once awake, or in a between world state, this ability is lost). This seems to be the 'real' body.
13) They are capable of manipulating people around you, including projecting thoughts (they believe to be their own), in some cases, emotions and prejudicing them against you. Once familiar with the cliches, it's possible to counteract the effects to the point the other person acknowledges there is something strange going on (however this only works on those open minded enough to listen, rather than those who can't see reason).
14) Drugs make little impact, as they affect the physical body, not the entity.
15) Electrical devices or currents seem to have little or no impact.

16) The very chilling effect of aerosol sprays seems to minorly affect them (I suppose similar to the liquid hydrogen from 'the entity'?), but is of limited consequence.
17) Fasting for a few days seems to have no notice

18) They have a hostility towards Christianity, that said, prayer in my experience does not seem to work (I may be doing prayers wrong). However, I will remark, genuine, heart-felt repentance got a very surprising response, and I encourage others to try this.
19) They will adapt to whichever language you try to internally speak (for example, if you are an English speaker, who then opts to use German for internal thoughts, they will reply back in German).
20) They appear to work as a heirarchy system, with a ruleset of the 'strongest' having the most control (so weaker/smaller entities will defer to the strong ones). As a result, males seem to be the dominant ones.
21) They can shift forms (at least, within the 'dream' realm) to appear as anything - including family members, friends, enemies, or even yourself. This is part of their psychological tactics to break down and abuse (for example, showing a loved one as distrusting or attacking you, when really it's them in disguise).
22) They are highly deceptive! You will not like to mess with them


23) They will appeal to your fantasies, desires, gullibility, naivety and whatever else prises an advantage to them. Doubt and skeptism - of even your own thoughts - helps to counter this.
24) They know you better than you know yourself,its the scariest part of it all.
25)Jesus!!! The name that send some s.hits down their spine.For one weird reason or another,this name works temporarily against them contrary to my atheistic believe. I later discover why their is some energy behind that name.

On that note, despite conducting various experiments, and having been abused at their hands every day for nearly 5 years straight, I cannot say I've found an applicable solution that neatly gets rid of them or gets rid of them at all. however,living a positive lifestyle will reduce their claws on you little or to zero effect.Take 100% responsibility on your life,believe that things happen the way they did because you want it that way.

To those of a skeptical mind: I would like to propose these creatures as alien entities existing on a semi-parallel dimension, who somehow use ionic or similar energy (excuse my ignorance but I lack the necessary equipment to conduct proper tests) to manipulate matter on this side.

H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y ! ! !

BuchiPrinzy:
What do you have to say about Astral projection, is it related to spiritism?

No. Astral is just who we are. Although it can open a portal to CLAIR effects ie,supernatural intuition,interactions,mind reading,visions etc but its a good experience,nothing demonic about it.Astral projection reveals to you who you truly are,there is existence at the other side.

Hiliarious

pinkiberry:
my problem with Facebook is that my dad is on facebook . he sent me a friend request. I used 3 days to contemplate if i should accept or not. then I accept now he comment on all my posts. and tell me the one he likes and dislike. I think I will quit Facebook

upgrading his duties. Facebook parenting.

Dekatron:
Exactly why y'all worship god.



Promise of another life, with sweet sweet things. . . . YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES.




When you die, you die. . NO SECOND LIFE/CHANCE





@topic :- REAL DEFINITION OF THUNDER FIRE THEM!!

Gbam.

These are the real SLAVES you believe in an almighty God who created you knowing fully well how imperfect he made you and how prone you are to making mistakes here and there which is not a fault of your own,still the 'almighty" demands you perform beyond your capabilities,now thats ignorance and gullibility of the highest order. you might say,'if there is no God why are prayers answered?' budhist,christians,islams,hinduist all pray and their needs are rendered,hence the christians believed their beliefs are accepted and their god the true god why is the prayers of other religious denominations rendered? prayer is affirmation,i do meditate and pray to connect with my spirit.The human mind is an ENERGY HUB so powerful that with faith - the assurance of things yet to be manifested.(opposite of fear and doubt) you can achieve all things you asked for. The power is in you,stop believing in a fucking god, we created the entity called god,so if you wallow in the existence of god,it becomes real to you and enslave you. Live your life like you gat no god to satisfy and see how caged you had been

Joshthefirst:
No. Very logical and promising that I know my labour in this life will not be in vain, and will be rewarded in the new one. Very hopeful and good that the suffering of this life will be eradicated in the next one. Very good that the injustice in this life will be dealt with in the next.

The Bible taught you that right? Can you put your sense of discernment at work in place of passionate reliance in a book.

johnydon22:
Nobody need say it, you only need to look at everything.. The cosmos..

we are part of the universe

you are right bro.A minuscle part of the universe we are.I also believe there exist billions of other realms in which beings exists like spirits,physical realms,ufos.Etc maybe reason why we have failed in discovering life in space,who knws.Wisdom can never be totally apprehended.Am a free thinker.

johnydon22:
..Humanity is so vulnerable that we leave that which is in front of us to chase after that which we do not have or know but a figment of our imaginations, thoughts and wishes.

the above quote of mine holds true for our perception of death.

Haven't you noticed how the word "Death" gives rise to different philosophies of hopeful realities to many.

-On one hand some speculate we do not really die but transcends and then gets reborn and live again and so it goes in a circle.

-Another suggests we do not get reborn but some thinking formless needless part of us continues somewhere else.

-Plato suggests the body is a prison for the soul.

Where as all these philosophies are profound and hopeful, i also call it greed, selfishness and a product of an unmatched ego wielded only by the human mind.

Humans have that egoistic tendency of deluding themselves to be the most important part of the universe..

That is why in this deluding ego they see themselves as deserving to live again but not every other animal or living thing in this earth that also live as they live and feel as they do.


-Just how important are we in this universe?

More important than the stars? Without the stars we won't be here but without us they were, are and will be.

More important than the plants ? without them we won't be here but without us they were, are and will be.

So how exactly are we more important, why do we prize ourselves the most important part of the cosmos when we are so deplorable and expandable that the cosmos won't even notice our disappearance.

So many stories have littered the course of human philosophy on the eventuality of death.

So many wishful hopeful fantasies has been conceived to give hope and comfort to the human mind when faced with the inevitability of death.

-We shall see again in paradise
-we shall be reborn again
-we shall make merry in Valhalla

amongst thousands of such tales.. I do not know how enticing these stories are but i know the greed of a human mind makes them comforting as nobody would like to imagine the absoluteness of the end of our being.

That to me comes from a short memory cus just a little journey backwards whene we were not here, imagining inexistence won't be far fetched.

We have been dead for an infinite time backwards, now we are here and we will soon be dead how then can we not imagine our the state we were before coming to this?.

I really understand the reasons why all these stories crop up in the human mind, why all these philosophies and emotional clutch to a comforting tale defines a huge part of our belief

It is because of the vulnerability of our being.

Being that almost certainly we are probably the only species amongst all in this planet that know at a very young age that we would die one day.

This knowledge of our inevitable end is somewhat like a burden to us .

I doubt that other species Chimpanzee, dogs , elephants even though alive as we are are fretting over an afterlife or performing rituals to earn a place in paradise or somewhere else outside the cosmos.

No they just live in the moment.

With all these stories filling the gap left by fear, vulnerability of our mind, we yet have no evidence to support these fantasies.

I do not claim to have knowledge of what happens in death but if anybody, person or book claims to know, they are both lying and fraudulent.

Because they do not know.

We are so concerned by what we want to be, by what we wish for that we forget and pay little mind to what we have which is NOW

So isn't it better and more noble we forget all these stories and focus on what we have and where we are which is Now and Here

Here and Now are the most important, certain aspect of it all, make them count and don't waste them chasing after a vague shadow of an uncertain wishful fantasy.

""Humans have that egoistic tendency of deluding themselves to be the most important part of the universe..

That is why in this deluding ego they see themselves as deserving to live again but not every other animal or living thing in this earth that also live as they live and feel as they do." lol at the bolded. It didn't occur to them that animals are also spirits as we are,in other words EQUAL SPIRITS.

BiafranNigerian:
The universe has many Gods even as the Universe is God too, everything is God. Even the Bible God is also God, so are you, cos you are part of the whole. To know God you need to know all, and believe all. Religion echoes belief, science echoes knowledge, the truth is, death is a transition from 3D physical, to etheric physical and so on and so forth, but we chose to call what we cant see, spiritual, we are right, because spiritual is a finer dimension of the physical and one has to really tune his/her frequencies to receive signal and BE in that dimension.

SCIENCE SCIENCE has relieved us, i love science,imagined being drowned in the fallacy called God and religion.Imagine believing i would go to heaven to meet God when i die. Billions of galaxies out there with billions of stars in it, which way is this heaven.SMH.

frank317:
There is never a convenient time for any of us to die. How can I make my theist brothers who 'think' they are in intimate relationship with a creator to realize that death defeats these existence of a 'known' creator.

Death implies imperfection, inconsistencies, disorderliness of everything seemingly orderly.


Order is just a perception. Man could have had four eyes (two front, two back. or six: Two front, two back, two sideways.) We rally have no means to determine perfection. Therefore, we really cannot explain our existence.

Bible explanation of death is completely faulty. Hence cannot be an authority. With our natural brains, a better reason on why we die is required..


To me, death can only imply nothing but, imperfection and disorderliness.

A creator can never have a rival? The existence of devil can therefore never be possible.

if you've experienced near death experience(NDE) you'll be forced to believe we do not belong in this plane. This human existence is fake, we came to believe in God because of our state of existence whereas we are GODS. I find that as long as the mind is in a state of fear, it wants to escape from it, and it projects the idea of the Supreme, and wants to experience that. But if it frees itself from its own agony then it is altogether in a different state. It doesn’t even ask for the experience because it is at a different level.

Anyone can be against me, I am not bothered at all, all I see is beauty in everyone. No judgment.

you are so on point. We are God,the power is in us(mind) i believe in ONENESS of the universe.We are One but life on earth disputes that wrongly. Inquire through your spirit,the power is in you. I LOVE ALL BEIGNS. WE ARE ONE. Religion (islam,christian,budha,hindu) is a scam.A hindrance and problem rather than the answer.I look forward to existence at the plane,where i belong,where there is no limits and boundaries.

Sarassin:
I do not see that there is any God who created the world. It is the religionists who would personify God to suit their purpose. I certainly experience a quality of godliness in existence, but it is a quality, not a person. It is more like love, more like silence, more like joy – less like a person. You are never going to meet God and say hello how are you? I have been looking for you for thousands of years; where have you been hiding?

God is not a person but only a presence.

And when I say "presence," one must be careful, because you can go on listening according to your own conditioning. You can even make "presence" something objective – you would have fallen into the same trap. God is a presence at the innermost core of your being: it is your own presence. It is not a meeting with somebody else.

Belief is one thing, reality is another… One leads to bondage and the other is possible only in freedom… Belief can never lead to reality. Belief is the result of conditioning, or the outcome of fear, or the result of an outer or inner authority which gives comfort. Reality is none of these… The credulous are always willing to believe, accept, obey, whether what is offered is good or bad, mischievous or beneficial. The believing mind is not an enquiring mind, so it remains within the limits of the formula or principle.

Through experience you hope to touch the truth of your belief, to prove it to yourself, but this belief conditions your experience. It isn’t that the experience comes to prove the belief, but rather that the belief begets the experience. Your belief in God will give you the experience of what you call God. You will always experience what you believe and nothing else. And this invalidates your experience. The Christian will see virgins, angels and Christ, the Hindu will see similar deities in extravagant plurality. The Muslim, the Buddhist, the Jew and the Communist are all the same. Belief conditions its own supposed proof.

Man has always been seeking something beyond his own death, beyond his own problems, something that will be enduring, true and timeless. He has called it God, he has given it many names; and most of us believe in something of this kind, without ever actually experiencing it.

When you are enquiring into such extraordinary questions, there must be the freedom of actually not knowing a thing about it. You really don’t know, do you? You don’t know what truth is, what God is – if there is such a thing – or what is a truly religious mind. You have read about it, people have talked about it for millennia, have built monasteries, but actually they are living on other people’s knowledge, experience and propaganda. To find out, surely one must put aside all that completely, and therefore the enquiry into all this is a very serious matter. If you want to play with it, there are all kinds of so called spiritual, religious entertainments, but they have no value whatsoever to a serious mind.

I find that as long as the mind is in a state of fear, it wants to escape from it, and it projects the idea of the Supreme, and wants to experience that. But if it frees itself from its own agony then it is altogether in a different state. It doesn’t even ask for the experience because it is at a different level.

In ourselves we are so petty, so essentially nothing, and the worship of something greater than ourselves is a petty and stupid as we are. Identification with the great is still a projection of the small. The more is an extension of the less. The small in search of the large will only find what it is capable of finding.

Eaa247:
sory to offend u wit d harsh words! Yea, I knw there r those ladies dat struggle to earn a living in a decent manner. Bad ones dat can die because of money seem to ve overshadowed the decent ones. Mayb u r nt among the gluttons!

she's among the gluttons,thats how they pretend at first. Are you a learner.A girl and games are like bread and butter.

The truth is 95% of women might have tested the waters of bisexualism before the age of 35.#FACT!

Monalisa185:
where did you borrow the sense you intend dashing out? because it's obvious you don't have any. return the one you borrowed first na..

you've just given me reason why i won't be taking it back anytime soon.

Monalisa185:
the perfect people to ask are you parents, except your mum was a baby mama

i dash you sense,. Give it back to me in the afterlife.

solid3:
So u think all those ladies above 30 are all happy that they have No Man to call their husband Abi. No man to legally fu¢k them, just buying Love Machine makes them happy abi?

And for the men above fourty, the time they will know was up is when their friends are always calling them to attend their daughter's wedding, while they are just thinking of taking their own children to primary school.

inner bliss beats them all,trust me.

Nova15:
Bros, are u that ugly?

pls,can you elaborate?