TheTransformer:
it is like you are looking for a ban? The fact you are not Nigerian is one reason why the moderators might not even hesitate to ban you (the advertisment on nairaland target Nigerians living in Nigeria - you are not really a true Nairaland customer since you can't buy any product advertised here).

You better learn to ignore or else you would get banned.

You people are just racists. You only kiss arse of white people and follow them their cults etc. You give all big threats een though you use social networking sites run by non Nigerians to relay your twisted ideology.

I will never ignore some anonymous bufoon inulting my nation and accusing it of some disgusting ra.pe festival which is absurd.

How would you react if someon accused you of such falsities, seeing as you come from a place where beheading schoolchildren and abducting young girls is the norm.

https://www.nairaland.com/2989022/photos-beheaded-abia-state-university


You are just piss faced coz i dont agree with your xtian views.

Why are Nigerians merciless towards animals?

[size=38pt]KILL HIM BEFORE HE KILLS YOU![/size]

You are welcome.

MainHerioneHoon:


Lol what's wrong Rajesh? I mean how would my mother know what goes on in India? So I'm asking you once again Is it true that during the Assam festival women are raped?

R u retarded? Or r u just feigning?

Ifamex:
don,t be deceived,blessed are those who believed but didn,t see!

Rubbish.

analice107:
@Ops. I have just one thing to say here. Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. Claiming it is, will not make it so.
If any Muslim objects to this, I challenge him to post Muhammed's genealogy that links him to Ishmael. I can boldly tell you that Christ is a descendant of Abraham because his genealogy is there.
So, pls stop associating these people with our beloved and great Patriach.

Its not about geneology but theology .

The islamic prophet learnt about his faith from a christian nesotarian monk on one of his many trading trips to Bilad al Sham (The Levant).

Theologically all 3 faiths are similar and base their beliefs on the judaic and mosaic laws.


Your patriarch is your ancestors. Not these ancestors of the jews and hebrews.

MainHerioneHoon:


So its true that India has rape festivals?

Go ask your mother.

MainHerioneHoon:


I would rather be Pakistani than Indian

We don't allow bleaching creams in our country yet you have Bollywood stars endorsing them in yours the Aryan myth was debunked by scientist and there are naturally fair Africans just like there are dusky Indians like Kajol so Fail psst skin colour is determined by genetics or by how close or far you live to the equator not by some mythical Aryan blood. Say what you want at least Nigeria doesn't have rape festivals now go back to the basement of your Arab overlords peasant.

Im clearly dealing with a mental patient.


Btw the Aryan theory is not a myth. Sanskrit Language and Vedic Hinduism belongs to the Indo Iranian branch of languages and faiths. Which stretches across the Dardic and Avestan groups of peoples of Northern India.

I guess that would be enough to distinguish genetic and phenotypical difference between different Indian groups.

It is the Aryan supermacist theory produced in Hitlers mein kampf which states Aryan groups dispersed around the world and ruler weaker races etc. Which is a myth.

The problem.

MainHerioneHoon:


Hahaha Fail I'm not even Nigerian

Please don't talk about anyone having no law in Nigeria when you have no law in India and goons run your country. And who the Bleep are you to talk about skin colour when India is the bleaching capital of the world who the Bleep are you to complain about racism when you got your Indian butt in here and started insulting all the Nigerian people like you know all of them. Stop complaining about racism when your religion still encourages the caste system. Oh and facts are still facts India is the rape capital of the world.

Then where are you from and why are you here to spread discord between Nigerian and Indian?

My country is run by a stable and democratically elected leader who is respected all over the world and is developing the nation. Not by a former millitary dictator.

Indians like me dont need to bleach like you people suffering from low self-esteem and inferiority complex. We are naturally fair because of our Aryan/Scythian roots.


We dont encourage caste discrimination today. But we are proud of our castes, tribes and culture just as you have your own tribes.


We are progressing in all fields be it space exploration or scientific discorvery and innovation unlike you cribber.


Nigeria is the rapicentre of the world. And you aint Nigerian. I guess you belong to pakistan or some other shythole.

BuddhaPalm:


I thought that too...

But given that he's Indian, I assure you, that was not quite what he meant to say.

Kinda nuanced. He meant to say colonization instead of enslavement.

@IndianBwoy

Nice thread. Do keep it coming.

Yes although enslavement of the masses did occur, I actually meant colonization in this context.

Thanks Sir.

uckennety:
I know dia are some indian and Arabia Girls captive and sold into d sex slavery industry!i'll simply buy one and customise as my own wife and girls den ur can go to hell wid ur norms

You must be a citizen of bokoo haram republicm

MainHerioneHoon:


How the hell are we racist? Tell me when were Africans ever racist to Indians ? On the other hand you came here crying about some people calling you a rapist psst guess what India is the rape capital of the world. Instead of worrying about Boko Haram worry about protecting your sisters , cousins , aunts, mothers , grandmothers and girlfriends from the goons who rape them in the streets of Dehli .

Many of you are very racis.t and always obsessed with skin color . Ive seen on many threads and also outside as well. Including with myself.

If India is the r.ape capital of the world, then Nigeria is the rapicenter of the universe. Coz u have frequent rape case almost everyday. I can prove it to you if you want. Actually i dont need to prove anything. Just keep following front page .

Today itself we come to know about the tenn girl abducted and r.aped and plus a full grown man rap.ed by a homose.xual.


First get bak the Chibok girls. Then talk about ra.pe in my country you have no law in your own country and you are spewing hatred against my nation.

[size=18pt]Kindly Go Through:[/size] https://www.nairaland.com/2988085/love-jihad

sikirat2020:
I STILL DONT KNOW WHY THE TARGET FOR CONVERT ARE MOSTLY TEENAGE GIRL CHILDREN. SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG SOMEWHERE, SOME YORUBAS ARE GOOD MUSLIMS AS WELL, WHY ARE THEY NOT CONVERTING TEENAGE GIRLS IN THE WEST? WHAT OF BOYS AND MEN ? ARE THEY NOT CONVERTIBLE?

jamst2:
Smh! But why are this people hell bent on tarnishing islam with all this fake propaganda news up & down...the two girl dont even resemble @ all...mtchewww

bennywise30:
They will end up using all this girls for suicide bomb attack, federal government should take this very serious, I believe they no longer have teenage girls for the bomb attack, they are recruiting indirectly

Danfuster:
What makes me feel all this girls being abducted and converted are just plans to executing their coordinated suicide attacks in other regions of the country I.e South-east south-south and Southwest, this regions has experienced few or no attacks....My observation tho.

snailspeed:


I would have said you are daft but you are not. You are simply evil. You support kidnapping and rape because you probabaly do it too

For your information. She cannot give consent because she is a minor. It is an abduction and if the perpetrators are taking to court, they will be sent to jail straight

Babaji111:
Any Muslim who kidnap people and force them to worship what they never intended to worship has committed a crime. The holy Quran has warned that there is NO COMPULSION in religion. That is, it is forbidden to force someone to accept Islam by whatsoever means.

So, let the people be aware of how Islam is being misunderstood. As a matter of fact, many groups are being sponsored to tarnish the image of Islam. But by Allah, they will only end up in doom.

Quakertellicus1:
Why I think the girl was not abducted.

1.She told her mother that she wanted to go to Deeper Life some months ago....while her mother wanted to go to Redeemed. (Like my mum would say....no be the same God wey dey for both churches?).

2.Unknown to the mum...she was going to a Islamic madrassah.And when the mum found out she lied,she confronted the Islamic teacher...who said he was told by the girl that she ''got permission from mum''.

In other words...the girl lied to her mum and to the imam.

3.Two days after the girl was found out...she runs away. And joins the Islamist group. I guess she did so because she either got into an argument with her mum...or was scared of her mum punishing her for the lies she told.

4.Anyone telling me that teenagers cannot think for themselves when it comes to religion is wrong. Teenagers are not adults...but they are not four year olds either.

5.I wonder why the Islamic group allowed the girl to join their ranks. Either they are a cult...or the girl told them a cock and bull tale about her life being threatened by her relatives, or the girl is point blank refusing to leave.

6.Teenagers do silly things. A relative of mine, when he was a teen ran away from home and joined a group of weed smoking criminals. God saved his life....and today decades later, he is now a responsible professional,married with two university graduate kids.

I also have read of people joining destructive cults as teenagers.I once read about a teen who joined a cult in America as a 17year old where the cult leader thought he was Jesus. And who can forget the Jonestown massacre...where cult leader Jim Jones led 800 of his followers in a mass suicide..including teenagers and children. And so on.

Also..some teens leave one church for another...or one religion for another.It happens.Some teens convert from Islam to Christianity, and vice versa around the road. There are also the real cases of abductions as well.

That is why we need to pass a law that makes it illegal to convert a under 18 from one religion to another without the written permission of their parents. But you won't see Muslim or Christian leaders backing such a law.

7.As I said earlier...one thing is that most Nigerian parents do not know how to bring up teenagers. The ''teen'' culture in my opinion did not really hit Nigeria until the 1980's. Many parents today do not know how to bring up teens. (My mom had to read books to prepare her to bring us up when we hit the teenage years). And in this case...you have a widow,who is not well educated,confronted with a daughter who once upon a time thought Mummy was the best....now behaving as if Mummy is her enemy!

Indeed, when kids hit the teenage years...it can be a shock to parents that their ''loving'' child has become a rebellious thing. Some parents respond the wrong way...and as a result, bad things happen. Parents, the teen years are difficult years. They are not adults,but they are not nice little kids anymore.

8. Finally, sensationalism is not good for public consumption.

[size=18pt]Kindly Go Through:[/size] https://www.nairaland.com/2988085/love-jihad

In India, it is very common to chew tobacco. I've tried it too. most people , especially bus/auto-rickshaw drivers and laborers chew it to keep them awake and focussed.

This is the main cause of spitting on the streets and polluting the environment.

taurus25:
nice job bro...i wonder why some people try every means possible to ensure others share their beliefs...just pathetic!

Thanks man. just doing what I feel is right.

People are f---ed up. Thats a given.

We just need to be aware and combat every new negative element the best we can.

koolkamzzy:
And who is that guy kneeling down?

He has been punished.

Its not just about CAN. the issue must be taken up by Nigerian parents and especially youth among the Non-Muslim community to be more vary and vigilant.


The youth of today see all women as se.xual objects.


It is time these youth wake up and atleast protect girls from their own tribes from facing such dangers.

Dear Moderator/ lalasticlala etc. I request to bring this topic to the front page if possible to raise awareness about this trending issue among Nigerian youth and parents. So that we do not see a repeat of the Ese Oruru case.

I also humbly request not to move this topic to the Islam for Muslim page , as this topic concerns all faiths involved and their children's futures.


Also the Islam for Muslim page is undemocratic and governed by the Sharia'a law and due to freedom of speech issues, so this post is likely to obtain a ban over there.

Fellow Nigerians. I wish to hereby inform you that the concept of Love Jihad has finally taken root in your dominion in the year 2016.


Although "Love Jihad" may have existed since earlier on , but in a more subtle manner and you people never realized it until now.


Ever since the Ese Oruru case, more and more parents of victims are coming out into the open and speaking up about it to the government bodies and the media.


I have been following your news closely so far, and this year has brought forth 3-4 "publicized" cases of brainwashing, abduction and subsequent conversion of teenage girls from Southern christian-tribal backgrounds to the muhammedan faith.

Through careful analysis of all 3 cases, I noticed similarities between them and also with cases recorded in my own country and I have come to the conclusion that this indeed is the Advent of Love Jihad in Nigeria .

I do not wish my fellow sisters across the continent to undergo the same travails we have been experiencing for ages now, therefore I couldn't resist to bring forth this issue to your limelight so that you can destroy and weed out this problem at its root before it turns into a venomous tentacula that twists and breaks your neck apart.






To begin with,


[size=18pt]What is Love Jihad?[/size]

Love Jihad , also called Romeo Jihad , is an alleged activity under which young Muslim boys and men are said to reportedly target young girls belonging to non-Muslim communities for conversion to Islam by feigning love. Arising in a background of national religious tension, the alleged activity is based on the power of emotional appeal in religious conversion. The controversial issue has garnered international attention.

The concept first rose to national attention in India in 2009, with claims of widespread conversions in the regions of Kerala and Mangalore, but claims have subsequently spread throughout India and beyond, into Pakistan and the United Kingdom. With waves of publicity in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2014, the allegations of Love Jihad in India have raised concerns in various Hindu, Sikh and Christian organizations, while Muslim organisations have denied the allegations.



The operations of Love Jihad might either be fulfilled by individuals to satisfy their religious zeal combined with their s.exual desires and also by organized syndicates who gain funding to perpetuate such acts.


Here is a good view on the Indian perspective of the matter: http://indiafacts.org/combating-love-jihad-social-legal-perspectives/
The issue continues to crop up frequently in media. we have been experiencing this menace for long so I hope our experience gives you something to learn about.



Now,

[size=18pt]How to Combat Love Jihad?[/size]

-Colleges and schools are generally the most likely area where your sisters or daughters have a great chance to be exposed to such dangers.

-If your daughter is being brainwashed or coerced, act immediately upon noticing symptoms. (Go through previous cases such as this recent one to find out more: https://www.nairaland.com/2986977/ifesinachi-ani-kidnapped-abuja-converted )

-Organize pvt. vigilantes in your school, college or community to keep a lookout for such activities as a side role. Some colleges in South India have such vigilante youth students who are also members of Hindu Nationalist organizations who scout for such threats.

-Kidnap or abduction must be immediately reported to the police.

-suspicious activity must be reported to the police.


[size=18pt]The Legal Aspect[/size] - [size=18pt]Caste Study India[/size]

The Legal Solution


Strong Laws must be established by the Government before such a menace is allowed to grow.



Let’s first examine the laws that already exist in India to cover gender violence.

Firstly, if a minor is lured into a sexual relationship or marriage, a clear case of paedophilia (covered under Protection of Child from Sexual Offenses Act, 2012) and/or Child Marriage (Prohibition of Child Marriage Act, 2006) can be made.

[size=18pt]Love Jihad is not about consensual inter-faith marriages, it is about sexual violence, gender crimes, deceit and fraud. It is a women’s rights issue.[/size]

Second, if abduction and rape is involved, there are several criminal laws which already deal with these crimes. Sections 354 and 375 deal with rape. These have been enhanced and made more stringent recently in the Criminal Law (Amendment) Act, 2013, also known as the Nirbhaya Act to cover sexual assaults, voyeurism, and stalking among other things. Section 366 of the IPC declares Abduction leading to forced marriage/sexual relationship against the woman’s will punishable for up to 10yrs in jail plus fine or both. The Immoral Traffic (Prevention) Act, 1956 makes human trafficking illegal.

So if all these laws already exist, why is this an issue?

Women’s Rights

Reality Check (@realitycheckind on Twitter) in his blog “Love Jihad is air gapping two different legal regimes” argues that the biggest concern about Love Jihad is not religious conversion but that of

(a) informed consent and

(b) woman’s rights under the Muslim Personal Law vis-a-vis the Hindu Law or even the SMA.

He says:

“When a Hindu/non-muslim girl gets married under Shariah Law, she waives her existing rights . So even if she consented – was it an informed consent in the sense that she voluntarily waived her rights ?”
Most cases that are coming to the fore are from rural areas and younger victims who are quite unlikely to know their legal rights as a Hindu woman. In order to ensure informed consent, Reality Check offers the following proposal:

Non-Muslim girls marrying under Shariah must be either required to sign or at least informed about exactly the rights they are losing. I prefer the waiver form to be direct so that these rural girls understand whats going on. Something of the kind : Do you agree to waive your right that your husband does not need your consent if he wants to marry again ? Do you agree to waive your right to divorce procedure ? etc”



Deceit & Fraud tactics of Religious conversion to Abrahamic faiths


While there are several laws that cover the criminal aspects of a case, there isn’t one to curb forced religious conversion. As in the recent case of Tara Sahdeo, a national level shooter from Ranchi, her husband who duped her into marriage by using a fake Hindu identity and later on raped, tortured and forced her to convert, it is evident that the element of deceit and fraud is undeniable. Sexual violence, followed by blackmail appears to be merely means of achieving the end goal: conversion. But is a legal remedy for this even feasible?

Most cases that are coming to the fore are from rural areas and younger victims who are quite unlikely to know their legal rights as a Non-Muslim woman.

A pertinent question here is this: how does one distinguish between genuine cases of inter-religious love marriage vs these cases of malicious intent aka Love Jihad? This is an absolutely critical question since laws cannot and should not be ambiguous. As Harsh Gupta and Shoaib Daniyal warn in this DNA article that in order to curb this growing menace, the law cannot and should not overstep female autonomy and individuality.

I would go a step further and make the above argument gender neutral. The state should not overstep individuality and autonomy of any individual. Period. Harsh and Shoaib explain in their article how even genuine inter-religious marriage cases many times involve conversion since the Special Marriage Act (which allows for two people of different faiths to get married under the Civil Law ) is far from perfect and in fact quite problematic. As a result, one partner in genuine inter-religious marriage cases convert to the other’s religion to bypass the hassle. Their concern and point is valid. They propose that SMA should be simplified first in order to ensure consenting adult women are not forced to convert just to avoid the hassles of SMA.


Both advices are sound and should be seriously considered but is this enough? Probably no. I would argue that forced conversion is a menace to the society since it oversteps into a person’s liberty and freedom to religion. So it may appear feasible to declare “conversion by deceit, treachery, fraud or force” illegal. The problem, however, is with the implementation. If implementation of a certain law is not thought through, it becomes a nightmare like Section 498A due to unlimited misuse. So the first challenge is to draft a law that is robust and fool proof. The second challenge here is that the state shouldn’t step over the right of an individual to convert by consent as noted above. But how does one prove coercion in the first place? I suppose victim testimony should work, however, as in 498A, this sometimes works negatively. Concrete proof of deceit, lying and treachery in cases like these would be hard to come by, thus allowing culprits to escape the law. On the other hand, aggrieved parents of consenting adults in an inter-religious marriage could potentially misuse this forced conversion law, should it be created.

Over–reliance on laws and the legal framework is the hallmark of socialist state but as history bears witness, its hardly any solution. The number of laws in this country are so overwhelming that Prime Minister Modi has taken a vow to repeal as many as possible. But too many laws is not India’s only problem. Drafting incomplete laws full of loopholes that allows fraudsters to make merry at the expense of common man is the bigger problem.

While there are several laws that cover the criminal aspects of a case, there isn’t one to curb forced religious conversion.

It is for this reason that I believe that Love Jihad should be dealt with socially rather than legally. If Laws are not strong enough.



It is well known that Only Hindus/Pagans/Animists/Traditionalists foolishly teach their children that 'all religions are same' . The Semitic cults teach supremacy of their respective faiths and foolish Hindu/Pagan kids, girls and boys are vulnerable to conversion because they think allah or jesus is just another god to add to the existing Hindu-Pagan pantheon. Which is absolutely not the case.

Hindu children must be taught about comparative religions. They should be taught about Semitic exclusive chauvinism. Hindus have been fed a steady diet of romantic version of Islam/Christianity and Casteist Hinduism, which makes Hindus defensive and vulnerable so truth about Christianity and Islam must be taught. Islam and Christianity condone and give divine sanction to slavery. Contemporary events in ME should be used to explain Islam in action. They need to be explained that ISIS treatment of Yazdis(sexualy slavery, genocide) is perfectly Islamic but being a 'Shirk'(idol worshipper) is a crime against their God.


After that they need to told that they women will not have any property rights and even rights to their own children in case of divorce in Islam.

Very few Hindus and non-muslim youth know that.

After all this it is personal choice.






Please take care of your daughters and sisters. Not all muslims are bad. but there are some evil cases abounding who have some other aims in life that can harm your good life and well-being.

Educate your Children. Education is key. Bring them up with freedom , albeit in a cultured setting with proper inculcation of discipline, tribal values, culture, morals and family values.


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hungryboy:
it's called love jihad in India.

Exactly! How do you know this!!!!

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Oba gha to kpere. Ise.

Welcome to my country. The greatest nation on Earth.

Im Indian and im speechless.


W.t.f

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This is why I am scared to visit Nigeria.


Today they killed a person because he is gay.


Tomorrow they might kill me because I am Indian or I follow a different religion from yours.


Scary*

TunjiMsp:
NO, they are not, Gay are worst, do you know that in western gay people rape more straight daily and are less reported, do you know what trauma their victim will have to endure, let him go and rot in hell

You deserve to be raped.