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PastorAIO: Olboy, Ansa na!!! If you want to avoid vicious circle then all you have to do is ansa. The circle will stop. It's when you start dancing and he keeps trying to get a straight ansa from you, thats when the circling starts.

ifeness: I must confess you are one of the worst minds to have ever walked on the surface of this planet. The more i read your comment,the more i see a reason to cheris a brain.

ifeness: I really do like your point. We are meant to use logic,which is why we are differnt from other animals. At least those who use logic are the ones helping us survive this harsh planet. I cannot name anything useful religion and faith have achieved. He who fails to use logic is dead.

Weah96: The word is self explanatory, the context is unintelligible. Humans beings don't live for centuries. What the hell are you talking about?

AlfaSeltzer: What a load of nonsense.
if xtians have faith in jesus, why do they go to hospitals?
my wife has no faith in me and I definitely have no faith in my parents.
I hated my teachers and unless I verify something, I don't believe scientists.

Weah96: Are you saying that they lived for centuries? Or just their corpses?

macof: Incorruptible

Yh we would research a baby produced without sperm

Any sensible person can see from your comments how Christianity is strictly against logic

mmsen: When you make claims for that which you have no proof then you are lying to the world and probably yourself.

Kay17: @italo

But faith can not be used to test the truthfulness or falsehood of an idea or thought

Weah96: Who remained incorruptible for centuries?

Kay17: Let's all start from a common ground - the place of faith in Christianity/Islam - Faith is definitely the life of Christianity, there is no Christian without Faith, right?

mazaje1: You are a liar. . .from the economist article it says. . .

"Since most patients now have some sort of medical treatment before coming to the shrine, disentangling its impact from the Lourdes effect is also increasingly difficult. The Medical Bureau is investigating one woman with polyarthritis, which had crippled most of her joints, who was able to move again after her rituals at Lourdes (a place whose damp tries even the able-bodied, let alone the arthritic). Blood tests showed changes in the levels of certain immunological molecules linked to the disease before and after her declared cure. But since she had also been taking cortisone for her illness, however ineffective it proved for the symptoms, an unexplainable cure was harder to pin down."

mazaje1: Here is a very balanced and well written article on Lourdes Medical Bureau from the economist magazine. . . . .Your claims are misleading or just false. . .

http://www.economist.com/node/304212

adsonstone: Why not?

They can...

...but only God ultimately knows if they will or not.

dejilg: yes, u dnt condemn everyone to hell, but u condemn "protestants". If u r not proud to really tell us what Catholicism is or u dnt know it, let ur brothers on dis site teach u. http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/

adsonstone: I can remember I once 'criticized' the Pope for saying 'Atheists can go to Heaven...if they follow their consciences, live right and maintain good works.' (Re-phrased)

mazaje: All these things happen only in fictitious stories NOT in reality. . .

TheBigUrban2: Italo thinks that I will bother arguing with him and his fairytales
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TheBigUrban2: lol....incorruptible?

TheBigUrban2: lol...keep hyping up your fake miracles


Atheist doctors...lol

mmsen: There are a number of events that stump the intellect of man, at any point in history. But there usually comes a time when people realise the cause and that issue ceases to be a 'miracle'.

A miracle is simply people saying that they do not know. Which is fine. It is better to say that you do not know than to claim erroneous knowledge vis-a-vis the church.

mazaje: A virgin gave birth to a child. . .A man lived inside a fish for 3 days. . .stars fight along side humans. . .Donkey's talk. . .A flood once covered the whole earth about 4300 years ago. . .All humans descended from one Jewish man and Jewish woman and finally Mohammed ascended into paradise on the back of a winged beast. . .

mazaje: Suicide?. . .Am not your god that killed himself(committed suicide) for 3 days as a sacrifice to himself to save the world from the mess he created according to the story you guys were indoctrinated with. .I repeat you have nothing to say. . .Next!

TheBigUrban2: lol....the same Lourdes that couldnt heal a cripple on BBC? Abeg shift with your fake miracles

adsonstone: Humans generally can do good...because they have the inherent (God-
given) ability to do good, not because we are all redeemed.

Before our redemption, many have done good and made God proud eg Rahab....and after the Redemption, many still do good eg Mary Slessor.


I, personally, do not condemn anyone to hell..saved or unsaved, Christian or Non-Christian...you may provide evidence if you believe I do.

However, I never declared that you said 'all Protestants are heretics.' My statement says you 'often tag Protestants/Presbyterians heretics' just as you have done about their leaders.

mazaje: It's not that you don't want to tell me, its because you have nothing to tell me. . .

TheBigUrban2:


I sense your pain. But I will make this easy for you;

The Abrahamic religions all accept/believe in the power of miracles. Miracles themselves being an illogical or irrational concept- the impossible becoming the possible. A contradiction.


For instance, a dead man coming to life (Jesus). This dead man was beaten, nailed to a cross for hours, stabbed in the side to check if he was alive and then buried for three days. Yet, we are to believe that he came back to life. What irrationality.


For instance, we are to believe that Prophet Muhammad split the moon into two.

mazaje: What is the reason and purpose of human existence?. . . .

adsonstone: Mary Slessor, a 'Protestant' infact, 'Presbyterian' (a group of Christians which you often tag 'heretic') did God and religion proud.

Thank God you affirmed that.

TheBigUrban2: Judaism, Christianity, Islam.....these three are illogical religions.

PastorOluT: I will answer u accordingly by answering each questions numbering them as u did.

1. Don't get it twisted, someone only named the whole church founded by Jesus catholic, it could have been saints, brethren or whatever bt they chose Catholic n it sticked. I believe u know what catholic means? Universal-all encompassing.

2. Hope this won't be a vicious circle as someone said, i tot i told u i can provide dates bt gave ow i came to know?

3,4,5,6. Repetitions, all in d name i should produce evidences n dates? Smile, i believe I see what is happening around as well as millions of people, this is where i got to know d doctrines.

NB To make this easy n letting go of all the endless repetitions n going around in a circle while u seek evidence as a detective, lets look at the present, I believe I will be able to provide a whole lot of evidences u seek.

MrAnony1: First of all, animals use logic. Secondly, please which religion is it that tells you to avoid logic?

PAGAN9JA: you are crazy or drunk. when did I say that?

PAGAN9JA: show me proof where Hausa killed twins.