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tbaba1234: If you block the natural route of a river, it will come out in weird and twisted ways.

It will cause a lot of uproar but maybe priests should be allowed to get married.

Friend, paedophilia is more rampant among the general population who are free to marry than among priests. How about that to nullify your suggestion?

"A child is more likely to be molested by his parents, his neighbors, or family friends than a priest, yet there exists no stereotype about these groups."
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/05/3-arguments-atheists-arent-allowed-to-use-anymore.html#sthash.aFw3BHAh.dpuf

The problem with you ignorant Atheists is that you know nothing...yet talk a lot.

plaetton: No doubts, pedophiles come in all colors and stripes.

But, and that's a big "BUT", other pedophiles do not use the pretense of piety, and under the protective umbrella of a big, old and powerful religious institution to perpetuate their evil.

A pervert is s pervert. A pervert in a priestly robe is a far greater danger to children and society.

The pertinent question is why is religious priesthood, in this case Catholic, such a genteman's club for perverts and pedophiles?

Does priestly training induce some kind of neurosis, or, are homosexual pedophile people somehow drawn to the priesthood, perhaps in genuine attempts to subdue the inner conflicts or disharmony of their tormented psyche?

The bottom line, as has been evident is that the catholic priesthood is a collection of sick people, dangerous people who harm children.
Whether the sickness is caused by internal or external factors is where the focus should be.

You're still missing it. Paedophilia is more rampant among you non-Catholic priests than it is among priests. Plaetton and his like are far more likely to be paedophiles than a Catholic priest is. This is the pot calling the kettle black.

You're exhibiting poor reasoning. Read this and direct your dull tirade at you members of the general population who are far worse:


As I’ve noted elsewhere, child-molestation is not a Catholic problem. It is a problem of Western culture in general. As Newsweek pointed out in their 2011 article Mean Men, “experts say there’s simply no data to support the claim [that the Church is “a refuge for pederasts”] at all …. based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. ‘We don’t see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else,’ said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.”

Dr Thomas Plante a Professor of Psychology and an Adjunct Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine says “available research suggests that approximately two to five per cent of priests have had a sexual experience with a minor” a percentage which “is lower than the general adult male population that is best estimated to be closer to eight per cent.”

A child is more likely to be molested by his parents, his neighbors, or family friends than a priest, yet there exists no stereotype about these groups. According to the US Department of Education’s report on the issue, entitled Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature, “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by [Catholic] priests.
- See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2012/05/3-arguments-atheists-arent-allowed-to-use-anymore.html#sthash.aFw3BHAh.dpuf

Apatheist: You've already provided a link.
And the answer is 3.
And the sex was consensual.

Are you really this dull or you're just a computer virus at work?

Here's what the link says:

Some of the well known atheist advocates of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) are:
1. The atheist and homosexual David Thorstad was a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).[1]
2. Harry Hay (1912 - 2002) was a liberal atheist advocate of statutory rape and the widely acknowledged founder and progenitor of the activist homosexual agenda in the United States.[2][3][4] Hay joined the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA) in 1934. [5] He was a vociferous advocate of man/boy love. [6][7] In 1986, Hay marched in a gay parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words "NAMBLA walks with me."[8]
3. The writer Samuel R. Delaney is an atheist and a homosexual.[9][10] Delaney said he was a supporter of NAMBLA.[11]

There are multitudes of Atheist molesters.

Apatheist: I saw only three people on the list, and they were ALL consensual. Catholic priests RAPE boys.
You could only list 3 pedophile atheists from 16% of the world population that's atheist. From 7.6 billion people in the world, 16% are atheist, but only three 3 (THREE) from more than 1.6 billion people that are atheist.
Interestingly, the prison rate for atheist is 0.07% not even up to 0.1% . And they say all morality stems from god.

Now do you want stats for pedophile priests?

You have no reasonable point.

You asked for only one.

Apatheist: Show me one atheist molester.

I gave you three...for starters.

What have you ignorant Atheists done about those three?

Then I will name many more.

TheBigUrban2: keep repeatng your ignorant talking points

It's not ignorant.

The rate of paedophilia in the world is far higher than 2%. That means the Catholic is far better than the world around it.

Obviously...you don't know the difference between "rate" and "number."

You don't even know the meaning of "rate" yet you're calling my submission "ignorant."

It shows you dont even know what "ignorant" means.

Apatheist: 0.07%
Source:www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/why-atheists-make-85-percent-americas-scientists-and-07-percent-its-prison

Do you want the number for priests?

You failed to answer the questions:

Who will tell us the rate of paedophilia among Atheists?

Who will tell us the total number of Atheist paedophiles in the world?

Who will tell us how many children have been molested by Atheists all through history?

TheBigUrban2: Can you tell me an atheist/humanist organisation known for child molestation? No.....our organisations dont sexually repress our workers.


And yes, you would be ridiculed like the many catholic apologists on TV

Apatheist: Show me one atheist molester.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism,_pederasty_and_NAMBLA

Now what have you ignorant Atheist haters ever done about those?

TheBigUrban2: I doubt that there are up to 100 million catholic priests in the world. But lets say that there are. There are 7 billion people in the world.


What we have is a ratio of 1:70. A ratio of 1:10 should be the maximum


That is too much of a discrepancy to make any comparison between the two groups.

It would be like comparing the rate of crime in a university to the whole of a state.


Apples to oranges.

Bros...the rate of paedophilia is higher outside the catholic priesthood than within the priesthood.

Simple. If you dont understand that, go back to primary school mathematics.

TheBigUrban2: Bigger sample size. The world is a far bigger place than the catholic church.

It doesnt matter the size. The percentage of paedophile priests is less than the percentage of paedophile non-priests in the world.

Which means you are more likely to be a paedophile...than a Catholic priest is.

Did you skip classes in primary school?

TheBigUrban2: you just defended the crusades.


Goodbye. There is no need discussing with someone not ready to tell the truth

1. I dont remember defending or attacking the crusades.

2. If you don't like the crusades but like euthanasia, then...

3. What is the truth about the crusades?

olajide21: Why not start by getting them a wife and let them fulfil their desires.......
God created Adam,......... For some reasons, he added eve to,it....... This isn't a mistake....... Let them get married and still worship the one true God...

For your information, paedophilia is more rampant among the rest of the world (who are free to marry).

Your logic fails.

God doesn't make mistakes.

Neither Jesus nor Paul married.

PastorKun: Bros abeg ansa the OP's question, who or what called you into your current 'office'?

He called himself.

Apatheist: Fighting which problem? What they've tried extensively - - and failed woefully - - to sweep under the carpet?

It is a fact that hundreds of priests have been defrocked in the last few years.

What has apatheist done about atheist molestation?

Apatheist: LMFAO.
"We are not the only ones doing it, so it is not wrong"

You said so, not me.

I only asked:

Who will tell us the rate of paedophilia among Atheists?

Who will tell us the total number of Atheist paedophiles in the world?

Who will tell us how many children have been molested by Atheists all through history?

Apparently, you Atheists dont see "atheist molestation" as a problem.

TheBigUrban2: You should be ashamed of yourself

If you were a catholic spokesman, you would have been ridiculed tirelessly and embarrassed if you made this comment on tv


Seriously, what do atheists have to do with catholic molestation? Two wrongs make a right? smh

1. You have no way of knowing if I would have been ridiculed and embarrassed. You're just assuming.

2. If Atheists have nothing to do with "Catholic molestation," why are Atheists on nairaland whining over it?

3. How many kids have been molested by people who share your faith or lack of faith...and what are you people doing about it?

TheBigUrban2: Please, help me ask

-the catholics that killed infidels during the crusades
-the catholics and christians who vote for capital punishment

I don't know the Catholics that killed "infidels" during the crusades and the circumstances under which they killed. Some say they were fighting to defend Christians who had been decimated by Muslims who invaded for no reason.

I don't know the Catholics who vote for capital punishment an their reasons for doing so...if I did, I would ask them why.

But I do know you who advocate the killing of innocent, harmless and defenseless human beings through euthanasia.

I ask you: what part of "thou shalt not kill" is difficult to understand?

^^^

Leave those haters to be fooling themselves. They're attacking the Catholic Church that is fighting it's problem when the rate of paedophilia outside the Church is even worse and largely unchecked.

What part of "thou shalt not kill" is difficult to understand?

...because the Catholic Church is tackling its problem.

Who will tell us the rate of paedophilia among Atheists?

Who will tell us the total number of Atheist paedophiles in the world?

Who will tell us how many children have been molested by Atheists all through history?

frosbel: They still have not answered the question.

If God called all Pastors in Nigeria today why are they all saying different things ?

God cannot teach Oyakhilome that masturbation is okay, then teach Adeboye that masturbation is a sin.

God cannot teach Kumuyi that fornication is a sin, then teach Pastor Biodun COZA that fornication is "a higher level of grace."

It's plain. God didn't tell Jesus to start his Church 2000 years ago, only to tell these thieves to start their own Churches to contradict that of Jesus.

Scammers...all of them!

Nobody called them. Nobody needs to call a scammer.

All the people called in the new testament were ordained by the One Church founded by Christ.

Anybody that ordained himself in his bedroom is a liar and a thief.

Anybody that is ordained by a shop (not the one true Church founded 2000 years ago) is a fool.

Good evening, friends.

God bless you.

Science says "no" today...and "yes" tomorrow.

Our faith is immovable. We have souls! God says so!

dijam: for u to say mohammed killed indiscriminately dat means u dont bliv in God but Jesus joshua was instructed to destryo a town without sparing anybody and muhammad gives rules dat dont fight women children monks old pple well i dont knw how xtians tink

Wait...do you want to deny that Mohammed killed indiscriminately?

Kei144:
Mk. 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptised will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

The problem with the Roman Catholic Church is that when it enters a new place, its missionaries just get people to come to Church and get baptized. When they have been baptized, the church now begins to teach them about God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Virgin Mary, St. Anthony of Padua, Novenna, mass, etc. What matters most is being a member of the church; the members may not really take any of these teachings seriously.

But the Bible says that believing in Jesus is the starting point, followed by repentance from sins. Only those who satisfy these prior conditions are qualified to be baptized into the Church.

When you prove anti-Catholics wrong, satan in them pushes them to change the topic rather than accept the truth.

The Pope is right in condemning supposed personal relationship with Jesus without the Church.

How can you have a relationship with Christ and not have a relationship with his body - the Church.

You anti-Catholic Protestants are really lost!

PastorOluT: Smile, I give up on ur finally (though I know God will never anyways), if what u can still deduce from what I post is without the church?

Stop clutching at straws. You are unable to cite biblical evidence for your 'only Jesus and I' doctrine...because it is not of God.

Christians cannot and shouldn't exist without the Church...according to the Bible and Pope Francis.

^^^

Another big proof that you have tried to manipulate Jesus' words to suit your poorly thought agenda:

Jesus never killed anyone. He even rebuked Peter when he sliced off the guard's ear and he healed the victim.

omonuan: Really? Are you sure about this?

Mathew 13:41-42, 50

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex 21:15, Lev 20:9, Dt 21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it.

You're fooling yourself. Matt 13 says nothing about killing children. Why don't you look for something else to manufacture instead of Bible verses.

omonuan: Here is Christ command:
Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me."

Jesus' parallel lesson in Luke 19:27 to Revelation 20:10-15 is: If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior, you will suffer eternal torment. Great moral lessons of peace would you say?

Jesus is talking about God punishing disbelievers at the end of the world. He's nowhere telling believers to help God punish unbelievers as Muhammad told Muslims to do. Christians are taught to leave judgement to God.

omonuan: Mark 13:12 Jesus said: Brother will hand over brother to death, and the father his child; children will raise up against their parents and put them to death.


Need more?

"Brother will..." "children will..." not "brother should..." or "children should..."

The verse is a prediction of things to happen, not an advice on what Christians should do.

Why have you decided to fool yourself?

PastorOluT: Who is talking about without d church?

And a question for u;

* What is the church, local n universal?

* What does it mean to have a personal relationship with Jesus?

A serious look at this two questions reveals what is wrong with that speech.

You can't show where a Christian existed in the Bible without the Church...

...that is because this 'only me and Jesus' doctrine of yours is not of God.

balash: must u blame islam for crime's from sets of individual because they wear turban?? do u blame jesus for crime's pastor's make

Muhammad killed indiscriminately and taught Muslims to do so.

Jesus never killed or taught anyone to do so.

That's why we blame Mohammed and not Jesus.

Pastor Olu T: Upholding the church? Little wonder they mostly believe that once u belong to their church u are saved.

Disuading personal relationship which is the foremost to encourage papacy in disguise

Show me where a Christian in the Bible existed without the Church.