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Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 1:01pm On Jul 22, 2014
PAGAN9JA: show me proof where Hausa killed twins.
You said so...that's the proof.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 12:41pm On Jul 22, 2014
PAGAN9JA: You are a madman. Maybe your own ancestors killed twins. Stop putting the crimes of your ancestors on mine.

she didnt stop anything. WE know the diabolical methods of the church.
Your insults can't change reality.

The whole world knows that Mary Slessor stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins.

It's a pity she didnt travel up north. An area was recently discovered where your fellow pagans still kill twins in Abuja.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 12:25pm On Jul 22, 2014
PAGAN9JA: YOU F00L! MY ANCESTORS NEVER KILLED TWINS! angry angry angry angry

Your ancestors r.aped Goats. That is how you were born. mumu!
Why are you getting enraged? The whole world knows that Mary Slessor stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins.

It's a pity she didnt travel up north. An area was recently discovered where your fellow pagans still kill twins in Abuja.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 12:13pm On Jul 22, 2014
PAGAN9JA: shut up. she is the worst and evilest of the lot. Your statement proves it. see how you blindly accused my Hausa ancestors of whom you know nothing of for killing twins.

This is a result of her works.

Gods curse on christianity and christians.
One Christian lady stopped your pagan ancestors from killing harmless twins...that's why you're attacking Christians. We do all we can to eradicate your atrocities.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 9:43am On Jul 22, 2014
PAGAN9JA: They have disgraced God and religion.
Many have...true. Many have also done God and religion proud...like Mary Slessor who stopped your pagan ancestors from killing twins in Calabar and environs.
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op):
PastorOluT: No don't get me wrong, what I meant by the first church was that it was the only available church after the first century church that was started by d Apostles in the book of Acts.

It even surprised me ow it all phased out n came into one as they were many as at the time of creation? Well I believe there is so much to history that isn't recorded.
How many Churches did Jesus found...one or many?

Is it the Church Jesus founded that turned into the Catholic Church...

Or the Church Jesus founded is the Catholic Church?

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 9:30am On Jul 22, 2014
ByfireByfire: Yes Mr Arguementator.Let the arguement begin.Sincerity my foot.I wouldn't waste my time if I were pastor Olu.We are on another "repeat" while this section is filled with it.
These thread is not necessarily for everyone.

I opened it because PastorOluT claimed he was sincere.

I just want to see him answer questions sincerely.

You dont have to be scared.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 9:18am On Jul 22, 2014
PastorOluT: This is funny, asking me to provide dates n time to all these well known facts? Anyways ow I got to know them is not hearsay bt what I read myself over the years, i have read different write ups over the years bt would mention the few I remembered. The foxes book of martyrs among many others, bt as for the acts of the papacy, got info from many different places even online.

Bt wait are u arguing that these things never took place during the dark years? Even the catholic church never denied it 'cos its an open fact what was done during those period n no one wants to go into that.

Coming to the present about the veneration of saints, Mary, n statues, I am confused what evidence u need here 'cos everyone sees this. Even in some faithful houses u find all sort of statues which they bow to n kiss. Or is it the prayer? 'oh Mary mother of God pray for us sinners' does this not clearly negate the scriptures? Yet millions of adherents make this prayer daily. Does the bible not expressly say we have only one mediator which is Christ Jesus?

So u want proofs as to exactly when all these started, I tell u d truth, I don't know when exactly bt I sure know they are. Even if u counterclaim yesteryears events, what about what is happening now that I have listed?

Who knows maybe if Christ tarries n u die someday u will be venerated n people will ask u pray for them sinners? 'cos as it were anyone can become a saint.
1. When you say the Catholic Church was the only Church that existed, you agree it was founded by Jesus Christ?

You did not answer this question. Please do so in the spirit of sincerity.

2. You claim the Church was good until the Papacy ruined it. When did this happen? Give us a date or a timeframe at least...and tell us where you got the information from.

You said you got this from several places online. Pls show us these sources and when they say the Papacy went bad.

3. Are you serious and sincere when you say "anyone" against the papacy was burned? If you are, please give us the date the papacy went bad and I will provide evidence that what you said is false.

Please show us evidence that everyone against the papacy was burned if you are sincere.

4. You said idolatry came in with veneration of saints. Give us the date when this came in.

Veneration of Saints was before the Church compiled the Bible. So if veneration of Saints came from an evil or erroneous Church, the Bible also did. How then can the Bible be trusted?

5. where did you learn that Mary and statues take God's place...and who told you that prayers must pass through Mary to be legitimate and that she became more important than Christ to the Catholic Church? Pls tell us where the Catholic Church teaches that?

You still can't answer these.

6. You said "The bible no longer became the final authority." Please tell us the date the bible came about, who brought about it, and when was the Bible ever the final authority?

Please answer this if you are sincere.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 1:58am On Jul 21, 2014
Mzflexydeeva: italo a very good evening to u too. How r u doinghuh?
I'm good. Thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 1:48am On Jul 21, 2014
adsonstone: Following.

Perhaps, I'll contribute...if need be.



Thanks for the invite, Italo.
You're welcome. Pls feel free.
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 1:45am On Jul 21, 2014
voxpopp: do you even know what "protestant" means and why it was used to address 19th century Christians then. In this age and time, you don't have to be born in an era to be well versed in the history of events that took place at that time. Google is your friend.
Protestantism started centuries before the 19th century.

You see that you can use google yet be wrong?

It depends on what sources you're learning from.
Christianity Etc › Re: PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 1:42am On Jul 21, 2014
PastorOluT: Hmm, testing my sincerity? U definitely know this won't work 'cos ur summation would only be based on my agreement or disagreement with u, bt i will oblige u anyways n leave others to judge us both.

My tot on catholism; I believe, though from history, that it was the only church there was then n it started well, bt when the papacy started ursurping the sovereign authority then things started getting out of hand. Then anyone n everyone that goes contrary to the church govt was termed heretic n burned in the stake, anyways that's a can of worm no one wants to open.

But along the line idolatry came in, whereby saints are being venerated n statues erected in their honor taking the place of Christ n Holy Ghost, also Mary became more important than Christ n prayers must pass thru her for it to be legitimate. The bible no longer became the final authority bt some several other write ups by the popes n some peeps with some oral traditions passed down.

There is so much to say bt let me stop here, now its not like i don't see faithful practicing Catholics as xtians, at least the sincere ones 'cos i have met quite a few n they are good people. Bt this doesn't change all those unscriptural doctrines practiced in the church which are detrimental to the soul.

U asked for m y opinion n I sincerely gave (though few) what I think n know about catholism which not just me bt many.

So u judge my sincerity according to ow I agree with u? Bt remember this is a public forum n many are reading our posts.
Thanks for your reply. Just to let you know that I have no problem whatsoever with people with differing opinions from mine. What I have a problem with is insincerity and hypocrisy.

Allow me to ask you more questions based on this reply of yours.

1. When you say the Catholic Church was the only Church that existed, you agree it was founded by Jesus Christ?

2. You claim the Church was good until the Papacy ruined it. When did this happen? Give us a date or a timeframe at least...and tell us where you got the information from.

3. Are you serious and sincere when you say "anyone" against the papacy was burned? If you are, please give us the date the papacy went bad and I will provide evidence that what you said is false.

4. You said idolatry came in with veneration of saints. Give us the date when this came in.

5. where did you learn that Mary and statues take God's place...and who told you that prayers must pass through Mary to be legitimate and that she became more important than Christ to the Catholic Church? Pls tell us where the Catholic Church teaches that?

6. You said "The bible no longer became the final authority." Please tell us the date the bible came about, who brought about it, and when was the Bible ever the final authority?

Thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 1:03am On Jul 21, 2014
PAGAN9JA: I would like to take this opportunity to thank my parents for not converting to the evil religion of these foreigners.

or else I would be here eight now defending this disgusting sacrilege on the divinities.

christians have given religion a bad name. Very Bad.
What crime did Christians commit now?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 1:00am On Jul 21, 2014
chibecanglobal: This is an insult to man for suggesting that men's actions result from the promptings of anothet being known as satan.
What then is man if the so called satan can cause him to always do his biddings willy-nilly?
Man is completely responsible for his actions and as such is entitled to all the rewards or consequencies resulting there-from.
Know the bitter truth todsy to the effect that man is fully resopnsible for his actions/inactions.
Thank God! he already knows this.
It is good to listen and understand before speaking.

Other beings (devil, God, human being, even an animal) can influence a person, but he ultimately bears responsibility for responding to or refusing their influence.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 12:38am On Jul 21, 2014
bluerange: Last quarter of the year for a 2 weeks visit.
If you'll be around on Nov 1 (All Saints' day), it'll be nice to see you at "The FEST" on my signature.

If not, it'll be nice to see you anyway.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:30pm On Jul 20, 2014
Mzflexydeeva, good evening.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:28pm On Jul 20, 2014
bluerange: Don't mind that Sister who grew up in Benin city! I remember it was her response when she was singing Celine Dion word 4 word.
grin
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:27pm On Jul 20, 2014
bluerange: lf u happen to be in Lagos when next l visit Nigeria!
When next are you visiting?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:26pm On Jul 20, 2014
jnrbayano: Italo,

thank you for the answer provided through that link.

It's good to learn. smiley
You're welcome, bro. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:09pm On Jul 20, 2014
@bluerange, good evening...been a while.

I like that talk: "who them inside convent?"

grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 7:58pm On Jul 20, 2014
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 7:57pm On Jul 20, 2014
mazaje: You didn't see where I wrote that going by your fellow christians like enigma, davidylan olegebu etc. . .
...and a miraculous u-turn!

grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 7:50pm On Jul 20, 2014
adsonstone: I'd love to see that thread and I look forward to seeing it. smiley
https://www.nairaland.com/1821508/pastorolut-lets-talk#24837415
Christianity Etc › PastorOluT, Lets Talk. by italo(op): 7:46pm On Jul 20, 2014
This is in response to your statement that you're always sincere in your discussions with me.

Well, this is my own way of testing if you can actually be consistently sincere.

1. What is your opinion of the Catholic Church, its doctrine... and actively practising Catholics?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 7:37pm On Jul 20, 2014
mazaje: I know that your god is a man made idea that is why you have to be the one that spends your entire life and time telling others about it and what it wants. . .You keep bringing this fictional character you use to delude your self to any body that points out the obvious to you. . .You have not even left your fellow christians out of this your fictional devil talk. . .tell him to describe the devil and he will begin to cry. . .It is you the devil is actually fooling, go as olagdegbuu, davidylan, enigma and many of the other christians that say that your brain and eyes are blocked by the devil. . That is beside alla'h shaitan that has complitely blocked your eyes and is misleading you. I laugh in greek. . .
He exhibits foolishness again.

Now the devil exists and is "ACTUALLY" deceiving me...

Says a so-called Atheist.

grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 6:51pm On Jul 20, 2014
mazaje: You have demonstrated that your god exist how?. . .By crying here?. . .
No. I have not demonstrated that. I dont have to prove to you what you already know.

You know that God exists, that's why you spend all day, all your life and energy talking about him.

It's just the devil fooling you...thereby making you restless and hopeless.

How should I demonstrate if i wanted to?

You want a photograph?

cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 6:37pm On Jul 20, 2014
mazaje: If it has not been shown to exist then it doesn't exist. . .
What do you mean by shown?

You want a photograph?

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 6:30pm On Jul 20, 2014
streetzdreamz: yea more like ts stupidity,if u ask em y dey chose dat path,u'l hear disgusting n foolish excuses as if dey r d only humans on earth dat's goin tru or gone tru dsame scenario dey goin tru,met one some mnts back n he told me he concluded dia was no God cuz he lost his lil sis he cherished so much,God didn't save her so he definitely doesn't exist,he failed to realize we r like a bowl of clay in d potters hands,our opinions n wants doesn't matter,HIS will alone does.. U really tried by replying em,I ignore n avoid em like a plague
Many times I ignore them.

A few times, I just want to expose their confusion.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 5:31pm On Jul 20, 2014
jnrbayano: Italo, Ubenedictus, Stricklymi et al please come to the thread
Check my previous post, brother.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pornographic Films Shot In Catholic Church Without Permission by italo: 5:24pm On Jul 20, 2014
streetzdreamz: its like telling d whole world love doesn't exist cuz I personally think it doesn't n expecting everybody to agree to terms with me,even afta proving it beyond all doubts,t stil doesn't mean love aint outdia..
SammyHoe: Funny you...atom according to Neil Bohr model is differnt from that of JJ THOMSON and Rutherford and so on. Many millions of the atomic model exists and the most appealing was chosen, so do many models of God's existence occurs and the most appealing were accepted.
The fact that atom has many different model doesn't rule out his existence. So also is GOD, your creator.
That's the foolishness of mazaje's thinking.

"If it is described in many ways, it doesn't exist."

The irrationality of Atheism! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 5:13pm On Jul 20, 2014
FrancisTony: LOL!

I love how Bro. Italo handled those atheist on the thread that made FP today. smiley
No mind dem jor...

cheesy

How body?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 5:10pm On Jul 20, 2014
SalC: Mehn this question hard o, but wait did italo miss the question? smiley
Please patiently read this page

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0129.html

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