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@ Ubenedictus,

Forget about that Ihedinobi guy...

From his first posts, I knew he had nothing to say, and I told him.

After many posts, you still cant tell which way the man is leaning.

shdemidemi: The RCC is not same as the Catholic Church.

So what is the "RCC," when did it start, and where can we find it?

And what is the "Catholic Church," when did it start, and where can we find it?

I have read many of Scott Hahn's writings and listened to his audios. His theological insight is simply profound and amazing.

We must be careful not to try to understand fully The Most Holy Trinity. That's why it is called a mystery. It cannot be fully understood by we humans.

Make do with what has been revealed and taught.

Thank you.

*FAMOUS LUNATIC ON THE RAMPAGE AGAIN*

The Catholic Church is not only the FIRST Church, but the ONLY Church.

There is only ONE Church founded by Christ.

All those other shops were founded by men for personal gain.

Love unspeakable!

Only people who dont do charity work and do not go close to people with such a disability will not know how difficult it is to HUG them...even as simple as it sounds.

Most...or all of those criticizing the Pope fall in this category.

Notice how you answered all my previous questions with questions.

If you cannot defend your position, then kindly go and do something else with your time.

Dont waste my time here in the pretext that you have something worthwhile to say when you have nothing.

Freksy: Read 1cor. 11:23-26 and see how Paul and other first century christians celebrated Christ's death. Judge for yourself if they diluted what they received from their master.
There is no gain in trying to squeeze the scriptures (Luke 24:41-43 & John 20:20) to fit into paganic mould. The bible says the two have nothing in common. rabzy is quite right about Easter, it's of pagans.

What Christ commanded us to do in remembrance of him is simple and explicit. The early Christians followed his example. Are you saying Christ and his early disciples were ignorant of how best his death could have been celebrated?

You are so eager to condemn that you do not even know that we are celebration RESURRECTION, not DEATH.

Anyway, the Bible would be pagan too, since non of the apostles carried it around and it only came into existence hundreds of years after Jesus and the apostles had died.

Freksy: Italo, can you recall what happened when Uzzah and his brother Ahio led the wagon carrying the ark of the covenant from their house when David wanted it brought to Jerusalem?
When the bulls pulling the wagon nearly caused an upset, Uzzah reached out and grabbed hold to steady the Ark, for which God struck him dead on the spot.
At first, King David saw nothing wrong with the use of a more advanced technique then (the Wagon) to carry the Ark, rather than using the authorized means - for Kohathite Levites to carry it with the poles on their shoulders as God had directed. God's anger would not have been incurred if he had done the right thing. - Ex 25:13, 14; Nu 7:9. Remember, the bible did not specifically say: "thou shall not use the wagon" or "Uzzah should never prevent the Ark from falling".

Notwithstanding Uzzah's presumably good intentions to prevent the Ark from falling, he was judged as acting in "error." (2Sa 6:7) This was because deliberate disobedience was involved. God had instructed that under no circumstances was the Ark to be touched by unauthorized persons. (Nu 4:15, 19, 20)

What God wanted his worshipers to do concerning the death of his son was stated explicitly in the Bible. Jesus had even demonstrated this with his disciples a night before his death, and commanded as follows: "... this do in remembrance of me" - Luke 22:19.
When a clear-cut instruction is deliberately overstepped, it is a sin. When proper things that needs to be done are deliberately ignored, it is a sin. "So whoever knows what is good to do and does not do it is guilty of sin. - James 4:17 NET.

It must have been a sin to compile the Bible and even to read it, then. Jesus never commanded that. He never even mentioned the word "Bible."

Your reasoning is very poor, sorry to say.

Ihedinobi: You need me to produce examples of believers? For what reason exactly?

So that we can examine their teachings and interpretation of scripture. To see if they are true and/or coherent. Can I assume you see yourself as a "believer", to whom the "Holy Spirit" has revealed God's teachings?

In John 6:35, Jesus says "I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE."

Some believe, in that passage, he was talking about Holy Communion, which is the ACTUAL body and blood of Christ.

Some believe he was talking about Holy Communion, but it is only a SYMBOL of the body and blood of Christ.

Yet others believe he only meant that we should BELIEVE in him.

What did the Holy Spirit teach you concerning this passage? It is very important that we know since Jesus said "he who does not eat his flesh and drink his blood will not have life.

Ihedinobi: What suggested to you that the teaching, as you call it, originated with me?

I never said it ORIGINATED from you. I said it was your teaching. It was you who taught it to me on nairaland so as far as I know, it is your teaching. Stop picking on trivial things.

Ihedinobi: By the same token, it was your INTERPRETATIONS you were putting across to me. Wouldn't you agree?

Partly. Partly that of the Catholic Church. I have no problem accepting that, unlike you.

And I answer again: where have I claimed to have teachings and interpretations?

You're just deliberately and dubiously doing a merry-go-round.

Didnt you just, in effect, agree to putting your interpretations to me, saying 'in the same token, I put mine to you?'

Okay, the teachings that you give/pronounce/proclaim and the interpretations of scripture that you offer... Are they infallible?

carr96: Oh pls! The catholics never preserved and protected the bible up till today! Instead they "formed and moulded" their own bible to deceive the multitudes!

When did they "form and mould" their own Bible? Provide proof.

Is telling lies against Catholics really worth loosing your salvation for?

Shouldnt you be asking the OP to provide concrete evidence of these?

Afterall, Italo is a Catholic so he cannot say anything that will make sense to you.

that means you are going to hell fire since you worship your aprons

Nwa oguta: sharap does d bible told u not 2 eat meat on the so called good friday?

Does the Bible tell us to "read the bible?"

Does the Bible even mention "Bible?"

do you not kneel to and worship the bible?

no

Catholic till i die!

Silemmana: Is it true that the SFS on some Roman Catholic monstrances represent 666 as S is the sixth letter in the ancient Greek alphabet and F is the sixth letter in the English alphabet?

No.

I'll post pictures from St Dominic's, Yaba tomorrow.

I'm so moved. We have read and heard about so many saints with such humility and virtue and the danger is that we might think of them as fairy tales...

...No! This one, like Mother Teresa's, is unfolding before our very eyes.

It is possible to be a saint in the 21st century!

*LUNATIC IGNORED*

peteregwu: how do you know this people are worshipping bible now? everything you jump into conclusion. and for your information, i have worship in apostolic faith church before,i used to recieved some of there christian magazines from america, oregun to be precise. and it is fantastic, true teachings of the bible. that is where my late worshipped before. so what are you saying? i just wonder where you worship your own..

You were the one who taught me how to jump into conclusion.

I saw you condemning Catholics on another thread and they were trying to explain their position but you kept insisting they were pagans.

...And I learnt from you.

Does your Bible contain the verses that say "do unto others as you want others to do unto you?"

"Judge not, that you may not be judged."

Ihedinobi: Again, you wish to put words in my mouth, don't you?

Anyhow, the Holy Spirit is the Teacher of Truth and there is only one Truth and it does not contradict itself.

Therefore, He, the Holy Spirit cannot be the teacher of all the doctrines that are contradictory. Only one, if any, among such contradictory doctrines can be true. And of that one alone, where it is found at all, is the Holy Spirit responsible.

Do you know anyone, to whom the Holy Spirit has revealed/reveals God's true teachings to? Can you tell me the person if you do?

Ihedinobi: And where have I claimed to have any teachings and interpretations?

Mr Ihedinobi! Haba! This thread has examples of your TEACHINGS and INTERPRETATIONS of scripture.

I do not even need to go far. This is a teaching:

Ihedinobi: Anyhow, the Holy Spirit is the Teacher of Truth and there is only one Truth and it does not contradict itself.

Therefore, He, the Holy Spirit cannot be the teacher of all the doctrines that are contradictory. Only one, if any, among such contradictory doctrines can be true. And of that one alone, where it is found at all, is the Holy Spirit responsible.

And when we were talking about Peter and Paul in Galatians 2 and Acts 15, it was your INTERPRETATIONS of those passages you were putting across to me. Dont make me go on and bring you more examples.

So I ask again: are you infallible in your teachings and interpretation of scripture?

[quote author=ojeniyi.]@ italo, I have checked that bible verse on my cellphone, is there any other verse where easter is being celebrated apart from luke24?[/quote]Yes. John 20:20, in my last post.

But the essence of my post is to show you that the reason for our celebration is that Christ rises from the dead and conquers death.

The apostles were OVERJOYED.

Is it a sin if we too choose one day out of 365 to celebrate our risen saviour?

How many verses do you need to see to know that there is nothing wrong in celebrating Easter? 100?

Tomorrow, I will upload pictures of The Good Friday procession at St. Dominic's, Yaba. Beautifully dramatized.

So who is it that is teaching the millions of contradictory doctrines that "christians" hold today? Is it the one Holy Spirit or are there millions of "holy spirits?"

E.g: Pastor Chris says "masturbation is not a sin," but Adeboye says it is a grevious sin...And they are both teaching "under the influence of the Holy Spirit."

And are you - Ihedinobi - infallible in your teachings?

Congratulations.

Perhaps God is saying something to you...becoming an uncle on the day we observe our Lord's passion.

gunners160: hmm me i did nt knw all dis while ooo i was naive nd i thought it was rite so i joined dem but my question nw is y are people still celebratin it since it is apagan way of worship

Luke 24:41 "And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence."

John 20:20 "After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord."

That is the account of the first Easter.

What is wrong in it if we have chosen a day out of 365 to be OVERJOYED and AMAZED because we know that the Lord has risen and conquered death?

What could be the sin in that?

All these years you have been celebrating Easter, have you ever engaged in any pagan practice?

Everytime you are told about Easter, are you told about any pagan gods or you are told about The Almighty God who took human flesh in Jesus, died but rose on the third day?

Luke 24:41 "And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate it in their presence."

John 20:20 "After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord."

That is the account of the first Easter.

What is wrong in it if we have chosen a day out of 365 to be OVERJOYED and AMAZED because we know that the Lord has risen and conquered death?

gunners160: I was chattin wit a frnd 2day nd i asked her hw is she preparin 4 easter only 4 her 2 tell me dat she dnt celebrate easter i asked her y she told me dat it is a pagan way of worship nd nt biblical. pls is easter celebration nt biblical because i am confuse oooooo

Here are questions I would like you to ask this "FRIEND" of yours.

1. This idea that if something is not explicitly stated in the Bible, it is a sin... Is it biblical? Is there anywhere the Bible says that anything that is not in the Bible is a sin?

2. Is there anywhere that the Bible mentions "BIBLE" or advises Christians to compile anything called Bible or even read it? If there is no verse that says so, then going my her manner of reasoning, the Bible is sinful and pagan.

Tell your "FRIEND" that another "FRIEND" said you should ask her these questions.

@delkuf, please I would like you too to tell me your interpretation of that verse and passage...you, who interprets the Bible by yourself.

God bless you as you do so.