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Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 9:27am On Oct 09, 2012

plappville: Are you not seeing @Italo twisting a scripture to make it looks like a command from God?
Its a doctrine in some churches and when you refused to observe it, they see you as disobeying God, That the reason of this thread was created.

So you are not only mad, you are a liar too?

Please show us where I tried to make it look like a COMMAND from God.

I don't know of any Church that takes it as a doctrine, don't just come here any say bullshit. Tell us the name of the Church that says its a doctrine and give us the pastor's number, let us call him and ask him if you are telling the truth, you are telling a lie or you are just totally crazy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 9:21am On Oct 09, 2012

You know I have told you to go see a psychiatrist before. Nairaland will not solve your problem o.

So you didn't read the verses I gave where the wise men were overjoyed and brought gifts to the child Jesus and worshipped him. Yet you are saying no scripture to support my claim. Even though you are still yet to show me where the Bible says "Christmas is a pagan holiday". And you are yet to tell me what the wise men are celebrating.

Please go and examine your brain o.

Besides didn't the Holy Spirit say through St. Paul that you should learn in quietness and submission? Is that what you are doing?

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 9:04am On Oct 09, 2012

Sometimes, when I look at her posts, I wonder whether she is not reading what is being discussed or she is reading but can never understand; or she just doesn't want to understand; or she understands but can't give a good answer so she just chooses to spit RUBBISH all over the place.

I can deal with a liar like Frosbel...or a hypocrite who can never answer a straight question you put to him honestly like Ijawkid.

But I am yet to deal with this...this... *Let me not say the word*

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by italo: 8:55am On Oct 09, 2012

ijawkid: Sorry...

The catholic church wasn't founded by Christ...if it was it wouldn't have killed people to pass on doctrines.....that church took part in the crusade that claimed the lives of many.....there is no way it was founded by Christ....except Christ never existed.....

Christ never worshipped idols,he worshipped Yahweh....you guys practice d opposite......

I see that you carefully avoided the matter of the Bible this time. If The Catholic Church wasn't founded by Christ, why do you believe us when we say Mark was written by Mark and it was inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Where is it written that Mark wrote Mark and it was inspired...in the Bible?

Why do you believe that all the 27 NT book we said were inspired were actually inspired?

Why do you believe in the Bible which we gave you in the fourth century?

Did Jesus tell you to read the Bible? Does the Biible mention the Bible?

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Christianity Etc › Re: @frosbel, Who Is Jesus Christ? (re: A Proposition For Theological Debate) by italo: 8:45am On Oct 09, 2012

Holy Spirit: "He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."

Frosbel: 'He was never with God in the beginning. Nothing was made through him; without him everything was made that has been made'

Jesus: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

Frosbel: 'Jesus is NOT the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.'

Jesus: "Before Abraham was, I AM."

Frosbel: 'Before Abraham was, Jesus NEVER was.'

That is what anti-Catholicism does to a man.

To depart from the truth gradually but eventually leads to anarchy and lunacy and heresy.

The rest of you, beware. Frosbel is not alone in this madness.

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Islam › Re: Is There Anything Muslims Like About Christians? by italo: 8:27am On Oct 09, 2012

I know that their women like the fact that Christians are taught that marriage is ONE MAN + ONE WOMAN. But if they dare speak up... We know what would happen.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Has The Different Versions Of The Bible Affected You & Christianity by italo: 8:25am On Oct 09, 2012

The different versions of the Bible have not affected me in anyway because as a Catholic, I only adhere to the Catholic versions and even those have only ONE interpretation which is taught in The Catechism of the Catholic Church. Within our fold, there is no confusion. You just need to look at the confusion that is rampant elsewhere to see why we feel so lucky, previledged and blessed to be Catholics.

Over 30000 so-called Christian communities, all teaching different doctrines from so-called Bible versions and intepretations. That's not to mention millions of so-called non-denominational Christians with their own personal doctrines. Any one who has a brain would know that that is not what Jesus wants.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Divorce A Sin To God? by italo: 8:14am On Oct 09, 2012

Divorce is never okay. Infact, divorce does not exist in God's dictionary.

Jesus: "what God has joined, let no man put asunder"

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by italo: 7:57am On Oct 09, 2012

John 20:21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

If people weren't to confess their sins to the apostles, how were they to know which sins to forgive and which not to forgive?

James 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

Make no mistake about it. Confession, like all of Catholic doctrine, is biblical.

Some might be more explicitly stated than others, but they are all biblical.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by italo: 7:24am On Oct 09, 2012*

The question of "how can you" does not arise, because we created it. Simple.

I understand that you can't bring yourself to accept publicly that that Church which you hate so much is the same one that gave you the Bible which you hold so dear and true.

But perhaps you should ask your question, only with a different mindset.

Can a false and evil Church create a true and holy book?

If the Catholic Church is evil, why do I believe them when they say that the book of Mark is inspired scripture. Is it written anywhere in the Bible that the book of Mark was written by Mark? How do I know? - The Catholic Church told me so. Why do I believe? - Because it is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

Ask yourself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 12:57am On Oct 09, 2012

ijawkid: Ñothing specific was been celebratÉd there that should call for commemoration........

Christmas has no place in the bible......

If at this age you still hold on to xmas then you gotta read bro,,,,,

Xmas is F-a-l-s-e

It does look to me that they were celebrating the birth of Christ, exactly what we celebrate. There is nothing there to suggest otherwise.

Besides, didn't John say that many things happened that weren't recorded in the Bible? So you are saying all those things are pagan practices, simply because they are not in the Bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 12:47am On Oct 09, 2012

[quote author=uj_sizzle]there is no quotation on d bible that said Christ was born on the 25th of Dec. Theology scholars actually thinks it fell somewhere arnd the middle of the year. History tells us that these feasts are made to replace pagan feasts...the solstice is still celebated in Ireland. Samhain(halloween) and Easter(ever wondered wea bunnys n eggs come from?) still are too.
All these events took place during the era of Constantine the pagan king and under the unction of the Catholic church these changes were made and d king forcefully baptised on his death bed.
But also at this time the true birth date of Jesus was unknown so we simply replaced the pagan feasts.
That said it wld also be important to note that as quoted earlier d 3 wise men celebrated Jesus' birth with gifts, d shepherds,zechariah n d seer rejoiced and so will we.[/quote]I asked that question because they don't usually accept anything that is not in the Bible. So since you are referring to history, can I also use history to prove that Christmas is not a pagan holiday?

And why is it hard to just tell me what was being celebrated there?

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Worship Jesus? by italo: 12:40am On Oct 09, 2012

truthislight: you can call him an apostat if you like but not atheist.

Atheism is a different thing.
When a religiouse person turn to atheism you begin to ask question as to the quality of spiritual food he was fed.

Firstly, you have no proof of whether he was an Atheist or not at the time of his betrayal.

Secondly, a Christian that turns Atheist is an Apostate.

So, yes, you should ask questions on the kind of spiritual food that Calotti and Logicboy were fed by the Catholic Church. But you should also then ask the kind of Spiritual food that Jesus fed Judas that saw him go from follower and friend of Christ to "Apostate" and betrayer of Christ.

By the way the Bible says "Satan entered him."

Is it also possible that satan entered our two nairaland friends?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by italo: 12:27am On Oct 09, 2012

I'll just let the Bible speak for itself.

italo: Jesus: "before Abraham was, I AM!"

Frosbel: 'before Abraham was, He wasn't'

italo: John 1:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by italo: 12:15am On Oct 09, 2012

What then is worship?

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 8:16pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: And that verse u quoted is the basis for xmas celebration....

You must be on shekpe.......

And please where is december 25th on that verse??and where is the xmas tree??

You mr man are just 1 hell of a pagan....

I only asked you a question: what was being celebrated there?

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by italo: 8:09pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: Humans can be shown honor by persons prostrating(form of greeting with respect)...

But we are talking about lifeless objects.....

Nobody bows down to the bible.......the bible is a book.....

From what you are saying, bowing isn't necessarily worship. Right or wrong?

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 7:48pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: Oh you are asking me??

Keep asking.....

You attach christmas to the bible....people who see clearly say it has nothing to do with the bible....

We have proof that it is not in the bible...

You should be proving otherwise....

Its pagan bro.....

Did Jesus celebrate his birthday??if he did abeg show me and stop telling me to show u where the scriptures say xmas is a pagan holiday...

I am still waiting for you to show me where the Bible says "Christmas is a pagan holiday." If you can't show me I will take it that you are talking nonsense.

Meanwhile ponder these verses and tell me what was being celebrated there.

9 After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. 10 When they saw the star, they were overjoyed. 11 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by italo: 7:33pm On Oct 08, 2012

Jesus: "before Abraham was, I AM!"

Frosbel: 'before Abraham was, He wasn't'

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 6:31pm On Oct 08, 2012

plappville: As usual, always hiding from the truth, you are over fed with false doctrine, you want others to remain in the falsehood like you.

What are the mens traditions Jesus warns about? that are practiced by christians and pagans today yet are not scriptural?

Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.

Christmas, Christ birth:Winter Solstice or Yule, occurs about December 21. This is the time of death and rebirth of the Sun God. The days are shortest, the Sun at its lowest point. The Full Moon after Yule is considered the most powerful of the whole year. This ritual is a light festival, with as many candles as possible on or near the altar in welcome of the Sun Child.

Halloween, Dead Saint day:Samhain, pronounced sow-en and called Halloween today, is the ending of the Celtic year. The Celtic new year actually begins at sunset on October 31.

Easter: Spring Equinox or Ostara, around March 21, is when light and darkness are in balance but the light is growing stronger. Ostara was not originally a part of the Celtic year, and all of its associations were given to Beltaine until recent times. Because it was named for the Teutonic Goddess of Spring and New Life, Eostre, it is assumed that it was brought to prominence in the Celtic world by the Saxons.

Do you want more? we know how the Catholic has influenced these holidays on mankind for yrs ok.

You still haven't given me the chapter or verse where the Bible says "Christmas is a pagan holiday."

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by italo: 6:25pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: The analogy u used doesn't fit the discussion....

If people bow down to the bible then it would have been a perfect comparison with the mary""worship"".....

I was expecting you to compare the mary image worship with the numerous idols been worshipped by the buddhists and hindu's...

It got me surprised when you used the bible...

So your problem is the "bowing."

That would mean that Yoruba people who prostrate to their elders worship them. Yes or no.

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by italo: 6:15pm On Oct 08, 2012

pheyikemi: . Hw wil u praise bible? It is just a sacred buk wc contains d do's and donts of christianity, u knw, lyk a guideline 4u to knw som mystical facts abt d things of God. U do not worship d bible. To me, d only person dat deserves our praise is our creator-God.

So the only person that deserves praise is God. Okay.

If your son co gmes home with a good result from school and you say "Good! That's my boy. You're worthy of being emulated. Thas how I want your brother to be." Are you praisinfg him? Yes or no. Are you worshipping him? Yes or no.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by italo: 5:02pm On Oct 08, 2012

italo: John 1:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by italo: 4:57pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: Lmao......

Oh so u have to resort to the ""the bible is a part of catholic"" position...right??

How can the catholics produce a book(the bible) that dis-agrees with almost every of there doctrines and creeds??

That the Bible disagrees with Catholic doctrine is only your weak and erroneous opinion.

The Catholic Church gave the world the Bible in the fourth century. Whether it burns your skin or not...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by italo: 4:00pm On Oct 08, 2012

John 1:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

Christianity Etc › Re: How To Worship Jesus? by italo: 3:17pm On Oct 08, 2012

I don't know but I know that he lost faith in Christ.

What do you think? Was he a Christian?

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 3:12pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: Why should the bible provide you with info to support a pagan holiday ??

Abi the bible na pagans get am??

It will be like trying to find answers to account problems from a thermodynamics textbook...:-)....

It is you guys that say, anything NOT in the Bible shouldn't be believed or practised. So if your evidence is not from the Bible, why should we believe it?

Besides, the Bible contains evidence of so many pagan practices and we both know it. Is Christmas among them? Yes or No.

If yes, show me the book, chapter and verse.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by italo: 3:05pm On Oct 08, 2012

frosbel: Can someone please tell me the difference between the catholic church and protestants ?

They mostly hold on to the same creeds and tenets of faith, why then do the protestants castigate the RCC for their beliefs, seeing that they have derived most of their practices from Mother 'Church' and the Vicar of 'Christ' ?

I need some help guys and gals.

ijawkid: I've always asked the same question:::::

E.g....

Why would protestants hold on to the fact that Jesus is almighty God(because of the spurious trinity dogma), but deny that mary isn't the mother of GOD....??

To me they are simply one and the same.....

Like you rightly put it.....Mother and daughter...

Both of you are not exempted. The Bible is a part of Catholic tradition. Jesus never mentioned it. The Bible never mentioned it. So if you believe in the Bible, you are also daughters of the Mother Church, only bad daughters.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Worship Jesus? by italo: 2:43pm On Oct 08, 2012

truthislight: ask them if they are not former catholics.
i only stated the truth.
she said "tufiakwa"

Who is to blame for people like Judas, Calotti and Logicboy, who God chose to belong to him but they ended up NOT believing.

You seem to be blaming Jesus and his Church instead of Judas, Calotti and Logicboy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 2:36pm On Oct 08, 2012

ijawkid: And why d hell are u yelling @ her and telling her to shut up??

I wasn't yelling. I was only reminding her of what St. Paul said to women, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

ijawkid: Show me from the scriptures where Jesus himself celebrated his own birth day......

I will show you. After you show me where the Bible says that "Christmas is a pagan holiday." You are the one making allegations.

ijawkid: And why shouldn't xmas be wrong??

It has paganism written all over it.....

##The date:::pagan..
....
##The customs and rites surronding the celebration of xmas::::pagan....
....

No problem. Just show me where the Bible says all these things you just said, then I'll believe.

ijawkid: Every single thing about christmas has no dealing with the scriptures......

Instead of you to quietly show her from the scriptures(as a good bible student) that christmas is supported or not supported by the bible,you just tell told her to ""shut up""

Is that what Jesus would do??

Mr italo......lol...

It's what St. Paul said...and St. Paul was speaking under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 2:18pm On Oct 08, 2012

frosbel: Christmas is a PAGAN Holiday , yep it is.

But then again , what else is new with a Pagan Catholic Church.

No problem. Just show me where the Bible says "Christmas is a pagan holiday."

Book, chapter and verse.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by italo: 1:48pm On Oct 08, 2012

plappville: Christmas is a collection of traditions and practices taken from many cultures and nations. Not from the B...I....B....L....E

The date of Dec 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god. This has been celebrated even before Christ birth,
Do not be ignorant. As ChristianS, we would want to worship the Lord in Spirit and in truth, discerning good from evil. Hence the origin of Christmas is paganism, i see it as evil holiday.

A period (24th - 25) where pagans all over the world soak themselves in alcohol, teenage are privillaged to fornicate etc. I do not indulge in this holiday.

Shut up woman, until you are asked for your opinion.

Now where is your biblical proof that all you said about Christmas is true. Show us where the Bible says that Christmas is a pagan practice.

If it is not in the Bible, where did you get it from and why do you believe it?

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