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Christianity Etc › Re: 100% Proof That Religion Is A Sham. MUST READ !!!! by italo: 7:57pm On Nov 12, 2014
zeemahn:
I'm referring to your post. Meanwhile, the topic talks about religion, while your talking about God,Catholic, etc
And religion excludes "God" "Catholic?"

I never made a claim in my post.

The one who made a claim is the OP...

And neither he nor you can prove the claim. Yes or no?
Christianity Etc › Re: “jesus Not Coming Back By The Looks Of It” Admits Vatican by italo: 7:52pm On Nov 12, 2014
An2elect2:
No, i don't hate u catholics cos that's not what you need. You need truth and love to get you out of this delusion.

Your consistent opposition to truth is what draws pity from others. If they hate you they won't want you to have what the have and cherish so much.

Go and learn what this means...

"And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth i will go unto the gentiles."

Did i say you guys attract pity? yes, great pity.
The truth is: the story is fake...and you are opposing it.

You're the one opposing truth.

You're the one that needs pity...and a good sleep.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 7:36pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
You are confusing yourself.


The agnostic-atheist position is that there is no evidence for God and hence no reason to believe in God. The agnostic-atheist still holds a stance that there could be a God but until evidence comes for it, he will not believe in God.
After saying "there could be a God," can the Agnostic-Atheist also say "There cannot be a God" at the same time?

Can one say "the could be a purpose for life" and "there cannot be a purpose for life" at the same time?

#ConfusedAtheist

What is in your skull?
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 7:25pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Let's show the world how confused you are


Here is my statement in bold;
1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.


If a purpose for life is beyond us, how then is life not purposeless? Use your brain!!!
So anything beyond you is non-existent?

"Life is purposeless" and "life might have a purpose" are contradictory.

#ConfusedAtheist
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 7:18pm On Nov 12, 2014
Weah96:
Another contradiction:
How did Judas the traitor die? What happened to the payment he received?
ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."
MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."
Weah96:
No, sounds like you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. You do realize that I've got at least a thousand of these contradictions right?

Are you prepared to produce more arguments like "I'm my uncle's son?" Hahaha.
And it is impossible for a man to hang himself and afterwards his body falls headlong?
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 7:00pm On Nov 12, 2014
frank317:
Italo pls stop behaving like a tout. If u have personal issues with anyone in your family don't take it out on innocent anonymous people on Nairaland.

Okay we have heard, christian can sin, let every Christian go out there and fight anyone, molest girls insult people anyhow... After all the bible justifies it.

After all the bible asked us to call people fools. No wonder it is the best language of every Christian.

And when Koran says kill and Muslims kill you guys start complaining.
Wetin this one dey yarn? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 2:11pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
See the desperate tool.


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless




^^^
look at my number 1 and 2....then tell me if it matches the nonsense 1 and 2 you wwrote
Your number 1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

=

My number 2. Life might not be purposeless.

And

Your number 2) Life is purposeless

=

My number 1. Life is definitely purposeless.

#dullard #ConfusedAtheistAgnosticSkeptic
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 2:02pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
lmao!!


I guess you are not familiar with the agnostic position or even the skeptic position.

It is possible that a toothfairy lives in the bush near your house but does that mean that one should believe it exists?


Saying something might exist doesnt neccesarily mean that that you are saying that it exists
The agnostic position does not assert that God doesn't exist.

The skeptic does not assert that God doesn't exist.

For you to assert that "God doesn't exist," you are ruling out and possibility that "God might exist."

You're contradicting yourself with both statements in bold...

Because you are poorly educated.

You dont even know what you are or believe.

Go sort yourself out first.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 1:50pm On Nov 12, 2014
lanxlot:
italo I wud appreciate it if u stop calling d dude a fool.
The guy is actually worse than a fool.

I'm just being charitably to him.

May God give me more Charity.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 1:48pm On Nov 12, 2014
Weah96:
Huh? SMH.
I am a son to my father...grandfather...uncle.

Have I contradicted myself, Atheist?
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 1:31pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
List of your fruit of carnality
1). Pride

2). Foul words

3). Lack of understanding the Bible

But again I say "Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God." (1John3:9).
If you don't understand that verse let go of your pride and ask humbly.
Then St. Paul must be guilty of all those.

You are more spiritual than he is.

Foooooool!
Christianity Etc › Re: 100% Proof That Religion Is A Sham. MUST READ !!!! by italo: 1:24pm On Nov 12, 2014
zeemahn:
The burden of proof lies with those that make the claims. Can you proof that there is a microscopic teapot orbiting the earth?
See the title of the thread and tell me who is making a claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 1:18pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
Again another fruit of carnallity.
Well my advice: You need to grow up spiritually. You need to develop spiritual wisdom. And when you do then read those verses again.
You cannot force a day old baby to say mummy.
And if the blind refuse to see or ask for direction, what can I do?
I have shown you with the Bible that you're ignorant and foolish.

You have nothing to back your stupidd claims up.

Paul sinned...and he was a child of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 1:07pm On Nov 12, 2014
Weah96:
Unfortunately for you, virtuous men have already gone through the bible with painstaking dedication, and so my work has been done in advance.


Who is the father of Joseph?

MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.


http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html#father_of_joseph
I am the son of my father...and my grandfather...and Uncle.

That is a contradiction?
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:59pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
Paul was writing about his experience before he gave his life to Christ. For he wrote in the next chapter that he has find the solution. See Rom 8:13 "For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live."
Liar.

St. Paul spoke in present tense, not past tense in that passage.

Why do you want to forcefully change it to past tense?

At the time he was writing that letter, he was sinning.

Not a child of God according to you.
Hiswordxray:
A Christian speaking words like that. Well by their fruit you shall know them.
People like you can't understand spiritual truth.
"You foolish Galatians!"--St. Paul in Gal 3:1

He was not a Christian then?

Fooooooool!
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:48pm On Nov 12, 2014
johnydon22:
if i start showing you thousands of contradictions in the bible, you will run away but let me just spare myself the trouble.
No contradiction in the Bible's teaching.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:36pm On Nov 12, 2014
johnydon22:
i doubt if you even know how the bible came to be.
The Bible fell from heaven to earth.

Am I wrong? Teach me.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:33pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
I am answering your question but you can't hear.
Like Jesus said "they have hears but can't hear "
Rom 7

15 I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. 17 But in fact it is no longer I that do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I that do it, but sin that dwells within me.

21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do what is good, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God in my inmost self, 23 but I see in my members another law at war with the law of my mind, making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, with my mind I am a slave to the law of God, but with my flesh I am a slave to the law of sin.

St. Paul sinned.

He was not a child of God?

Foooooooool!
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:24pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
That is a wrong question. The question should be "do a child of God sin? "

And the answer is "Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God." (1John3:9)

Or rather, humbly ask "I don't understand the Bible please would you teach me? "
You're just a typical dubious penterascal...

A scammer like most of your leaders...

That's why you're dodging the question.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
johnydon22:
apparently i cannot argue with someone who revolves his thinking over a book compiled by the church... you just making it seem the bible is ur brain. ....... everyone here knows the bible is full of contradictions and mistakes but no.you choose to defend it by quoting the bible hahahahahaha secularism chai grin
The Bible has no contradictions.

The contradictions are in your misunderstanding of the Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:20pm On Nov 12, 2014
johnydon22:
abeg christians what do you have to say about this dude claiming he is not a sinner because he saw where it was written in the bible that christians dont sin...lwkmd ooo grin
Do Christians Sin?

by Kyle Butt, M.A.

A quick reading through the small epistle of 1 John reveals a number of verses that seem to disagree with each other. For instance, in 1 John 1:8,10 the author assures his readers that all people have sinned. In 2:1, John seems to indicate that even Christians will sin and therefore need Jesus Christ to be their advocate. Yet, 3:6 has John on record as saying: “Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.” In verse 8 of chapter 3, John wrote: “He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning.” And verse 9 states: “Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.” Steve Wells, in his work, The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible, wrote concerning these verses in chapter 3: “Earlier in this letter (1:8,10) John assured us that everyone sins. Yet in these verses he claims that Christians don’t sin” (Wells, 2003).

Are these verses examples of contradictions within the Bible? If they are not, what do they mean? Do Christians sin, or don’t they?

The answers to these questions actually are much simpler than it may, at first, appear. When we compare other translations of 3:6,8,9, we see that the actual Greek wording of the verses makes a major difference in the understanding of the passages. R.C.H. Lenski translated 3:6 as follows: “Everyone remaining in him does not go on sinning; everyone continuing to sin has not seen him, nor has he known him” (1966, pp. 457-458, emp. added). Lenski translated verse 9: “Everyone that has been born from God does not go on doing sinning because his seed remains in him; and he is not able to go on sinning because he has been born of God” (p. 462, emp. added). The New International Version translates 3:6: “No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him” (emp. added).

Lenski explained that 1 John 3:6,9 uses a Greek construction called the present durative, which should be translated “does not go on sinning” (pp. 458,462). John, then, is saying no more in these verses than what Paul was saying in Romans 6:1-2, when he stated: “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any long in it?” Numerous other verses teach that Christians will commit sins, even after they have been washed in the blood of Christ (cf. Romans 7:14-25; Philippians 3:12-13). However, John is saying that any person who rebelliously continues to sin, making it his or her usual, habitual way of life, is not following God. In 1 John 3:9, the Greek present infinitive means to habitually sin without compunction. In more practical terms (to offer an example), it is one thing for a Christian to slip up and commit an act of sexual immorality for which he or she is penitent. It is altogether another thing for a person to live as a prostitute and claim to be “having fellowship with the Father” (1 John 1:6).

Therefore, it is easily shown that no discrepancies exist between the verses under discussion in 1 John. Furthermore, it is refreshing to know that when a Christian does sin, “we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.”

http://www.apologeticspress.org
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 12:10pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:
No! Notice how you are too carnal to understand spiritual truth.

Like Paul said "not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words." (1Cor 2:13)
Do you sin?
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 12:03pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Just as God might exist.

But I'm still an atheist.


Learn how grammar and logic work
If you claim that God might exist, then assert that God doesn't exist...

That's not an issue of grammar and logic.

That is an issue of a #ConfusedAtheist...a poorly educated mind refuse dump.

Have you read the link I gave you and are too arrogantly ignorant or ashamed to tell us your findings?
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 11:57am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
lmao....you have become desperate after I decimated your points!! wow!!


So you are now selectively quoting/quote-mining me?


These two comments are not contradictory;


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless



^^^
You are the one confused
They are contradictory!

When you say "life is purposeless," you eliminate any chance of your second statement: "life might have a purpose."

What you have said is:

1. Life is definitely purposeless.

2. Life might not be purposeless.

#ConfusionOfAtheism
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 9:53am On Nov 12, 2014
^^^

Notice how he is too dubious to answer the question?

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: The More I Grow The More I Get Confused With Religion by italo: 9:44am On Nov 12, 2014
johnydon22:
so sir you are tell me you do not sin, yes?
I also want to know the answer to this question.

These pentecostals!
Christianity Etc › Re: 100% Proof That Religion Is A Sham. MUST READ !!!! by italo: 9:19am On Nov 12, 2014
Nobody has proved here that God doesn't exist as a spirit...

That he didn't create the world...

That Jesus, who is God did not come in human flesh, born by Mary...

That Jesus didn't die and resurrect...

That he will not come again to judge the living and the dead...

That The Catholic Church is not the mystical body of Christ, inspired by the Holy Spirit...

That there is no life after death in this world...

Going by the topic of the OP, I expect the most intelligent Atheist here to prove these to me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 9:00am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
grin grin grin


"Meaning" itself is useless without humans.


Only man gives meaning to things.
But one can not truly give meaning to what he doesnt understand.
The above is your confused fabrication.

You just said "life might have a purpose."

You're very confused.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:54am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
smiley smiley smiley smiley

I always knew that you were a hardcore catholic......


.......I never realised that you are crusader-level crazy
Forget ad hominem.

Read http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science and educate your mind refuse dump.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:52am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Life is purposeless
JackBizzle:
Now, you are asking the right questions.

Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.


As for a good life....it is left for society or the individual to decide. However, logic and reasoning are unbiased tools we can use to aid in judging what a good life is. And usually, it is what many people use.
#ConfusionOfAtheism
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Science was invented by the catholic church? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??!!! shocked

I also never said that all scientists are atheists.


I was just telling that guy that the things he uses in life are made by people who dont care about his religionn- the point being that there is life outside religion!
I know that you're just a confused wannabe baby Atheist who thinks that ranting on the internet against religion will validate his confusion and make him look intelligent.

Guess what, you only look dumb and scatter-brained.

Science was invented, sponsored and nourished by the Catholic Church.

You can start by reading http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science to educate that refuse dump you call a mind.

And that is only a start...from a secular source.
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:34am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Okay, what is the purpose of a rat or a rat's life?

What is the purpose of stars in our galaxy?



Is it the same as asking of the purpose of a table?
Where do you get the law that only man made constructs have meaning?

You seem to think anything that flies off you confused mind is a universal law, dont you?

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