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Hiswordxray:
You still see the Church as a number of denominations and buildings.
Is like am speaking one language and you are speaking another. We won't understand each other and I hate arguing.

Am saying this again with love, "you need to have a revelation of what the Church is ".

I dont see the Church as a number of denominations and buildings. Stop heaping lies against me because you are trying to dodge my simple questions.

1. Does the visible Church hold on to millions of contradictory doctrines, as is seen today among those who claim to be Christians and claim to partake in the sacraments you mentioned?


2. Does the invisible Church hold on to millions of contradictory doctrines?

OLAADEGBU:
Do you mean the universal or local church?

I mean the one you described thus:

In summary, the church is not a building or a denomination. According to the Bible, the church is the body of Christ—all those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation (John 3:16; 1 Corinthians 12:13).

Does this "Church" include all the millions of "denominations" and ministers that are teaching millions of contradictory doctrines...or are they excluded?

OLAADEGBU:
This article satisfies all your objections including that of the OP.

I didnt raise objections. I only asked two 'yes or no' questions.

Neither the article nor you hypocrites have answered.

I never made claims.

The op never proved his claims.

zeemahn:
We both agree that op attempted to prove something (religion is a sham)
While you made claims and asked irreligious folks to prove em.
Your claims were unverifiable (like an invincible teapot orbiting the earth )
Ops attempt was genuine and is based on rigorous research.
Are you happy now?

Yes. Twelve is different from one dozen.

Image123:
no, what you asked is different from what aio expressed.

Calling a fool "fool" or calling a doctor " is not an insult.

urheme:
Your st paul must be silly if all he teaches u is how to insult people,

He is far from being spiritual, i am not impress with his products, just look at your self

Who told you Judas was hanging by the neck? The county investigator?

If a county investigator's testimony is empirical evidence, so is the gospel writers' testimonies.

Judas hanged...and Judas fell head long and burst open.

If you cannot agree that the above is possible, why should we move to another topic.

You'll just keep denying the possible.

Weah96:
It is empirical enough. I will take the word of the county investigators over your highly unlikely possibility that his stomach magically burst open after 12 hours.

As for Judas, the bible does say that his body burst open after he fell headfirst, a condition incompatible with a hanging death in a field. How do you fall headfirst if you're hanging by the neck?

Besides, these contradictions should be addressed as they appear, otherwise we run the risk of ignoring many of them.

I first asked you about God creating man before beasts or vice versa. You pretended to have dementia, preferring instead to latch unto the absurd argument that the body of the actor Robin Williams burst open after he hung himself.

Weah96:
No, not God. Don't confuse yourself. I am unable to disprove God. Yoruba "spiritualists," for example, believe that I'm God.

Nicki Minaj is also a God, by definition. She's a real person.

So you see, I'm not here to prove that Nicki Minaj or I don't exist. That would be ridiculous. Are we on the same page now?

Jesus is another matter. He, along with Peter Parker, Obi Okonkwo, and Harry Potter don't exist.

Ok. Jesus is disproved because one frustrated "Weah96" said he is disproved.

Jesus is then proved by all his believers.

Image123:
As for what is stuck in your throat, use some garri. It would help you, though too much can blind you ihear. What is my teaching?

I deliberately made an assumption and asked a question at the same time.

I dont know what your teaching is...but I know the way people with false teachings treat such simple questions.

Image123:
Of course. If that's what italo is asking, of course i agree with what you posted.

As if you didnt know what I was asking. Such clear and concise questions.

Hiswordxray:
The Church is messed up right now but God is doing something about it.
She will grow in unity because that is the way God wants it and God never fail.

Here are the questions, hoping you are ready to give a sincere answer this time.

1. Does the visible Church hold on to millions of contradictory doctrines, as is seen today among those who claim to be Christians and claim to partake in the sacraments you mentioned?


2. Does the invisible Church hold on to millions of contradictory doctrines?

zeemahn:
Of course they are sire
Incorporated

Ok. We cant solve the dispute.

But we both agree the op made claims.

Why are you afraid to ask him for proof?

Weah96:
No, it has. Disproving God is one thing, disproving JESUS is another.

Jesus and Yahweh do not exist. Their "own" words give them away as fictional characters created by men, not unlike Peter Parker and Obi Okonkwo.

Ok. God is disproved because one frustrated "Weah96" said he is disproved.

God is then proved by all his believers.

Weah96:
"Williams and his wife, Susan Schneider, were alone Sunday night in their home, which fronts San Francisco Bay, Boyd said. Sheriff's officials had previously said Williams was last seen at 10 p.m., but Boyd said Schneider retired to a bedroom at 10:30 p.m.

It was not known when Williams went to bed in a separate bedroom.

Schneider left home at 10:30 a.m. the next day, believing her husband was OK, Boyd said. At 11:45 a.m., the personal assistant became concerned when Williams failed to respond to knocks at his door.

When the assistant entered, Williams was unresponsive, clothed and "cool to the touch," Boyd said. The belt was wedged between the closet door and the door frame, Williams' right shoulder was touching the door and his body was "slightly suspended," as though in a seated position."
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-robin-williams-death-coroners-investigation-will-take-weeks-20140812-story.html

Is that proof enough that the man bowels didn't explode or would you like a link to the LA county autopsy report?

You're talking rubbish and making s)hit up. I quote the bible while you add random things to scriptures.

Nowhere was it said there that his bowels didnt burst open...or were intact.

Besides, I thought your idea of "evidence" was empirical evidence, not a mere narration by a mere reporter.

Can I also supply narrative proof of anything you ask me?

Image123:
What is the falsehood in what i said? What is the truth? i guess it stuck in your throat or you couldn't prove your allegations.

My allegation was that you side-stepped the question because answering it would expose the falsehood in your teaching (not your post).

I stand by it.

And, if it will help you digest your lunch....it stuck in my throat.

zeemahn:
What do you call these?


Can you prove otherwise?

They are not claims.

There is no need to deviate. This thread was opened to prove that religion is a sham.

My religion is Catholicism. If you think you can prove that it is a sham, go ahead.

if not, shut up

Cheap deviation.

The Bible is not my religion.

My religion existed before the Bible...

So laugh very well at your ignorance.

JackBizzle:



On the contrary, your bible has been shown to be totally contradictory with over a 100 contradictions

At least you admit that my religion has not been proven to be a sham.

So you cant fault me for believing what i know to be true.

By the way, i dont think i'm intelligent. It is you who thinks i am...and i think thats because you are a dullard

JackBizzle:
No one has also disproven

There is a spaghetti monster flying in our universe

That a pink unicorn is not a celestial being in our universe.

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If disproving unprovable and unverifiable claims is your basis for a religion to be true, then you are not as intelligent as you think you are!

And all hanged bodies end up the same way?

You're a grown adult?

Besides, where's your proof that Williams body didnt burst open?

Weah96:
Who told you that his body was decomposed? The famous actor Robin Williams recently committed suicide by hanging.

He didn't fall headlong and his bowels didn't burst open.

I didnt.

Quote me

zeemahn:
You also made claims bruh

Nevermind.

let me await someone who can sincerely answer the questions

Image123:
What is the falsehood in what i said? What is the truth?

italo:
Who named Sacred Scriptures "Bible?"

Who compiled the Bible?

When was it compiled?

Or did it fall from heaven?

Bible answers please.

@Sisterme,

Are you still searching for the answers in the Bible?

Please search hard because I'm really confused and I want to be sure that I am not holding on to a book compiled and named by demons...since Jesus never seemed to mention "Bible."

Ukutsgp:
no need because when u tell them the truth, they will never take it. i have also talk about this in full in my other thread but they never accept it. so no need waisting my time. i dnt have time for foolish argument this morning.

You meant no Bible answers.

Weah96:
Decomposed? Where did you obtain that information?

Where do dead bodies obtain decomposition from?

From your closet?

All these children on nairaland sef...

Ukutsgp:
should i answer that?

If you have Bible answers.

lastchild:
Spent 6 years of my life fighting the same battle,how could someone went for a deliverance while the spirit he's been fighting is at home waiting for him

This whole fasting and praying seems like an illusion,I'm still loosing



Fkcu this world, I don't wanna be here anymore

Try talking to a Catholic priest about it.

Who named Sacred Scriptures "Bible?"

Who compiled the Bible?

When was it compiled?

Or did it fall from heaven?

Bible answers please.

Image123:
The church is the body of Christ, body parts are different from one another in a sense but in cohesion in the big picture.

You just side-stepped the questions because answering them will expose the falsehood in your teaching.

No?

Weah96:
The simple answer is YES. The bowels of hanging victims don't gush out.

Unless an incision was made which the bible failed to mention.

The bowels of decomposed bodies cannot gush out of they fall from hanging position?

zeemahn:
Stop lieing joor. Can you define religion without God?
You cannot disprove ops claims yes or no?
Your religion makes a claim and its your burden to prove it not mine or the op's.
Invincible teapots orbit the earth yes or no?

I thought you said burden of proof lies with the one , making a claim.

Who is making a claim on this thread?

Me, my religion or the OP?

You already admitted it's the OP, so shouldn't he prove his claims?