₦airaland Forum

obonujoker:
You can't compare the influence of Mohammad (S.a.w) in Islam to that of Joseph in Christianity... In fact in Christianity, Joseph is a nobody, buh in Islam, Muhammad is everything.....

obonujoker:
As a true Muslim, when talking of sleeping with underage girls, I think its better to keep quiet seeing that Mohammed (S.A.W) was also guilty of the sane thing, even far worse....

PointZerom:
What's there to prove?

PointZerom:
Anambra under Peter Obi was richer than your state.

Obi1kenobi:
We're going round in circles here. Once again, I have not questioned the "rights" of the Sharia governments up North to pass regressive laws. I'm critiquing the wisdom and merits of the regressive laws. We can argue about our value systems and moral standards here - your theocratic beliefs against my secular humanism - but quit rehashing the tired line about the rights of the Kano state government and other sharia states. Their rights are not what is in dispute.

You also have a fundamental misconception of democracy as purely a majority-rules system. That might be what we learn in Primary School or JSS1 Social Studies, but true democracy does not accord tyrannical power to a majority and respects the rights and civil liberties of minorities: rights that many Muslims enjoy in other societies where they are minorities, but often do not grant to others due to their fundamentalist intolerance. There is nothing "democratic" about suppressing basic rights of residents - millions of whom are non-indigenes and non-Muslims - with Islamic tenets they don't subscribe to. Even Iran, Pakistan and Qatar which are theocracies, and hardly models of democracy, exclude non-Muslims from their alcohol prohibition. Why not embrace your religion as your personal value system rather than imposing it on others.

cream1:
Daily Post Nigeria

NEWSBuhari vs Atiku: Herdsmen finally reveal who they’ll vote in 2019, give reasonsPublished on December 27, 2018 By John Owen Nwachukwu

The leadership of Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association of Nigeria, MACBAN, has finally taken a decision on who to vote for in the 2019 presidential election.

The cattle herders have settled for the candidate of the All Progressives Congress, APC, President Muhammadu Buhari.

The organization endorsed Buhari at the 5th Annual General meeting of the Association held on Thursday in Abuja.

The National President of MACBAN, Alhaji Muhammadu Kirowa, while making the announcement, said the administration of Buhari has impacted positively on the lives of their members.

Speaking with journalists after the Congress, the National Secretary of MACBAN, Alhaji Baba Uthman Ngelzarma said the decision to support President Muhammadu Buhari was a decision from the Congress.

Uthman said their members numbering over 20 million in Nigeria took the collective decision.

He said, “We represent over 20 million members across the country, here in attendance we have over 2000 people who have come from all corners of the country, we have representatives from each local governments, and you heard their view, they have declared their interest on Muhammadu Buhari to move to the next level, this is the majority decision of the Congress, we as leaders, we don’t have option other than to follow.

“MACBAN frowns at the sensational and negative stereotyping of herders who are doing a legitimate economic activity that contributes to the gross domestic product of the country and ensuring food security.”

Speaking further, he called on the present government to stamp out cases of impunity in relation to the killings of innocent citizens who are caught in the conflict.

Obi1kenobi:
Of course I'm entitled to my opinion. Finally, you acknowledge that rather than your earlier asinine assertion of the rights of the Kano government to pass the law - as if the right to pass the law was under dispute rather than the law's merits in a pluralistic, free society.
The whole of Nigeria is taking panadol for the headache of Northerners. We're still battling religious fundamentalists in the North who are blowing themselves up, murdering thousands and displacing millions. Apart from the blood and treasure wasted in battling the fundamentalists that your society has created, tens of billions from the national coffers are going into the North East Development Commission. If you were a separate country, I wouldn't care, but we share a destiny in this ill-fated contraption.



Sharia law always existed at magisterial/customary level. Its elevation as an all-encompassing criminal justice system is unconstitutional and triggered a constitutional crisis under Obasanjo's administration, but Obasanjo, by his own words didn't want to inflame tensions in the very volatile North that always seemed on the precipice of open violence. Sharia law was also intended to apply only to Muslims, but the radicals expanded it to cover non-Muslims. You can read a brief legal analysis here, and Obasanjo's admission about why he let it fly:
http://www.constitutionnet.org/news/sharia-and-nigerian-constitution-strange-bedfellows
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/239755-self-serving-sharia-become-disaster-nigeria-obasanjo.html

You keep invoking words like "bigot".
1) Unlike you and your ilk, I don't engage in idiotic tribalistic e-battles. I'm more critical of my own tribe than any other group here.
2) I happen to be atheist and a secular humanist, and despise religious fundamentalism. Unfortunately, you Muslims up North are far more dangerous to secular nationhood than the Christians. It's only up North that religion inspires mindless zombies to slaughter several dozen people because some cartoonist in Denmark drew a funny depiction of Mohammed, or have deadly riots because some 21-year-old Thisday journalist, Isioma Daniel, cracked a joke about Mohammed in 2002, or kill people and burn several churches because a teacher "desecrated" the Koran while confiscating from a pupil reading it in class.

In such a toxic atmosphere that has sprouted so much violence and already bred terrorist groups up North, perhaps those of you with an education should be looking to secularize your society, rather than offering silly apologetics for fundamentalism. I'll never understand how many of you Muslims seem to have no self-awareness of the barbarous, intolerant reputation you have earned around the world. You seek rights and privileges in foreign lands, but do not accord visitors in your own lands the same courtesy and always set out to be tyrannical overlords over any minorities in your lands. That's nothing to be proud of.



Does that have any relevance with anything I'm saying about fundamentalism or did you just post it to tell me an Igbo boy murdered someone? You're such a child.

chigoziri2403:
let her hustle hard, buy the old man a jeep, and build a mansion, her sins would be forgiven instantly
money rules the world
I had a relative like that, her father always traced her to hotels, even used a cutlass on her, but when she started flying to Qatar, and bringing goodies, she became her fathers fave, the person whom has the final say in everything concerning family matters

Obi1kenobi:
I don't care to indulge whatever inferiority complex you harbour. I haven't said anything about anyone's education.

You seem confused by the role of the electorate. I'm at liberty to point out flaws in a law. I know up North, many of you are conditioned to have a slavish, unquestioning devotion to your leaders, but it's regressive. Sharia governments in the North can make whatever law they please and I can get to call them out for the mooronic laws they are. That's my prerogative. Questioning a law has nothing to do with "bigotry", but apparently you think projecting your own pathologies on me is a substitute for cogent arguments. I'd suggest bigotry is forming a parallel constitution that flagrantly violates the country's secular Federal laws because your society is intolerant of outsiders and non-Muslims.

US prohibition era laws in the 1920's, universally regarded as dark days, are your model of progressive governance? You do realize you're in the 21st century, right?

I can't comment on the addictive properties of codeine-based drugs, as I'm no expert on the chemistry. I know though that billions of people in the world function perfectly well in societies where it is legal to produce, consume and trade alcohol. You do not always have to align yourself with the regressive strides of theocracies like Somalia, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Embrace freedom and individual liberties and secularism and stop legislating morality to control your masses like sheep. You'll be better for it and there'll be less Boko Harams in your neighborhood who think that you are not fundamentalist enough.

The state government should reject the revenue if they are not sanctimonious hypocrites. But as I said earlier too, it is hardly them that I blame but the spineless representatives of the rest of the country who always have to bend over backwards to accommodate whatever regressive whims our Northern brethren conjure up.

Obi1kenobi:
A weird thing to infantilize adults in your society in such a manner, yet you talk of "infantile". The overwhelming majority of us down South here don't stumble around as drunkards, whatever you may choose to believe. I've experimented with alcohol since I was like 13 and never been inebriated or intoxicated in my life - neither do I have any friends or family I know who are drunkards, and my dad and my brothers drink. Infact, naturally on my own, I restrained myself to beer and mildly alcoholic wines, and I never drink hard spirits like whisky, brandy, vodka etc. Perhaps have a little faith in the natural restraint of grown adults rather than looking to program and indoctrinate and coerce and curtail their liberties with tyrannical laws. Grown-ass citizens are not children.

As for the revenue, if you decide to make such laws on moralistic grounds, surely you shouldn't be able to profit from the alcohol industry. I wouldn't blame the Northern sharia states for this, but the rest of the empty vessels in the National Assembly who would not pass legislation ensuring that not a kobo of the billions in VAT revenue from the alcohol industry should accrue to any state that bans production or distribution or consumption of alcohol within its territory.

nokatakata:
Where is the shame in phucking underage girls? You just like to deceive yourselves. Drinking alcohol or phucking underage girls and taking coedine, inhaling gutter, which is better. Why should kano have a different law aside from the general law. If they talk about restructuring, you ab.oki.s start to shiver. You can destroy people's properties but will enjoy money made from that same product in form of revenue sharing. Many of you should be in mali or Niger republic.

Xander85:
Rubbish! I support them 100%!

Is fighting bloodthirsty, remorseless and battle-hardened bokos what they signed up for when choosing a career with the Nigerian Police!?

Gboy101:
but come you guys are fighting Benue government for making a law prohibiting the Fulani from open grazing.

PointZerom:
MUMU POST OF THE YEAR.

Efewestern:
Then why share in the revenue generated by Alcohol, stop being a hypocrite!

Even with all these, your region is still poor, underdeveloped, Barbaric, uneducated, contributes less to national development. shame on you and your leaders.

Damn.

aolawale025:
Meanwhile kano is the highest consumer of hard drugs

KikBuhari2Daura:
The former Minister of avaiation has come out hard on the IGP and the Police authorities for sending mainly souththern and Christian policemen to fight Boko Haram

He said " of the 167 "runaway policemen" that were assigned to fight Boko Haram, 91% were Christian and 88% were southerners. Can you blame them for running?

No matter how many Christmas carols he sings, Buhari's ethnic and religious agenda is becoming more obvious by the day.

https://twitter.com/realFFK/status/1078139683635376128?s=19[/quote]The bigot has just shot himself in the foot again: in other words he is saying that majority of southern Christians are cowards; since they constituted the most that ran away.

Next time he should think more carefully and weigh the implications before he opens that gutter he calls a mouth again.