osazsky: kid go read ur quoran, u will understand better,how many christains has ever bomb a mosque,buts its normal for u guys,when a Muslims bombs a mosque its no news,it becomes news when a Muslim bombs a church,when cultist kill cultist it a plus to us who are peaceful,heard of a serial killer who specialises in killing other serial killers, that guy deserves to go to heaven though he committed suicide in jail,I think he deserves to go to heaven ,imagine how many families he saved and how many rapes he prevented, u guys shld just kill urselves moreover there are beautiful virgins waiting to open their legs for penetration, just sort urselves out who cares ,I even saw u apluading book harsm when dey released Muslim dapchi girls when they realised Muslims and held the only Christian captive, how many imans and sultan protested or condemned d act,don't expect us to help u condemn this act two,like I said just sort urselves out,una know una selfs na,both imans and bh
I have no time for unintelligent folks who regurgitate passed down trash as arguments. Pls go an get some education before you come back to me.
[quote author=osazsky post=67225875]pls source,name of Chc dat was bombed by Christian and year,pls fast sm waiting just site one,havnt heard of this before I wan know[/quote
Lightening: You really mean that no one is currently killed in Nigeria because of his faith? Is it mere coincidence that the States that have suffered greatest casualties from herdsmen are the ones dominated and controlled by christians? The evil you condone today will turn around and hunt you down tomorrow. Boko haram menace is a case in point.
Even Boko Haram have shifted from targeting ppl based on their faith; they just kill anyone, whether Christians Muslims - pls correct me if I am wrong.
Those who are relevant know what is what. There is no point in arguing about it on NL with the kind of people that are usually found here, and it is not even beneficial to do so. They are not even going to reason anyway, so there is little point in wasting time and energy. NL is for BBN news and relationship advice, it is not a forum for knowledge.
Agreed; however, some of us cannot just roll over and allow such false narratives to go unchallenged.
Jeswino: Please mention the names of prominent Muslims who have lent their voices to the killings of Muslims? I mentioned names of Muslims who are indirectly keeping mute.
Muslims do not need to come out condemning the killings of Muslims because it is already a foregone conclusion that such killing is wrong; Christians are the ones who seem to want to politicise such killings in order to heat up the polity as they usually do.
Ojiofor: Aboki the fact is muslims are killing christians in large numbers that is unacceptable.We can't stop muslims from killing each other but they should stay away from killing christians.
See intellectual laziness; you obviously didn't bother to read the article you just quoted because if you did you would have realised that it was about purely Boko Haram attacks on some churches (as if to say that the terrorists were alsonot attacking Muslims in their mosques too) which occurred years back under GEJ's administration; and clearly not referring to any of the recent herdsmen killings as you dishonestly want us to believe.
As for bombing of churches; don't tell me that you are unaware that Christians have been caught bombing their own churches to implicate Muslims under the said GEJ administration.
gidgiddy: You are just talking nonsense. I asked you, What was the violence that IPOB was perpetrating before operation Python dance? You can't answer
So what sort of Government will be launching pre-emptive strike against an organisation not known to use violence? Pre-emptive strike is only when you have credible intelligence of imminent danger, otherwise, anyone in power can use that sentiment to deploy the military against those he doesnt like. Has the Government since come out to tell us of any such information they had? No.
You talk about soliciting arms. That is not illegal, the firearms act of Nigeria even allows adults to hold certain types of guns such as double barrel guns, under license. The solicitation its self is not a crime, what is is a crime is what you do with the guns solicited.
All over the world, the threat of violence must go beyond words. You don't start rolling out the Army and attacking people because someone talked. We all have right of free speech and if anyone makes verbal threat, the Police should investigate and charge where appropriate. But to say that people should be attacked for talking is nonsense.The Army was not created to go after people for talking.
Beyond Nnamdi Kanu talking, what credible proof was there that the public was in danger from IPOB? None
Was there any violence IPOB perpetrated to warrant military deployment? None
Has the military got any constitutional right to fight crime in Nigeria? They don't, thats the job of the Police. There is nothing like 'routine military exercise' in populated civilian area. In civilised countries, the only time you see the military come out of their Barak is if there is war. The job of fighting crime and maintaining law and order is the job of the Police. Operation Python dance was illegal.
As for this story that IPOB blocked the road to the Army and attacked the Army with sticks stones, only a foolish person will believe it.
What the Army wants us all to believe is that they were passing by, heavily armed with machine guns and Tanks, but unarmed IPOB decided to block the road and attack heavily armed Soldiers with sticks and stones?
What sort of person will believe this crazy story?
My friend, you do not threaten the corporate existence of any nation and expect to be treated with kids gloves; we are talking of treason here.
Guantanamo bay prisoners were fighting and defending their territories in their own countries, without directly fighting America but were deemed a threat and subsequently, traced forcibly kidnapped, shipped to America and imprisoned without trial till date - your human right is suspended once you start tangling with treason or threatening a state.
You don't have be violent to threaten a state; though IPOB cannot claim to have been non violent just because they said so; because they were openly intimidating their own ppl, collecting tax/protection money, attacking law enforcement agents and killing northerners - these are all verifiable, so don't even try to deny them.
Lightening: You really mean that no one is currently killed in Nigeria because of his faith? Is it mere coincidence that the States that have suffered greatest casualties from herdsmen are the ones dominated and controlled by christians? The evil you condone today will turn around and hunt you down tomorrow. Boko haram menace is a case in point.
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More Muslims killed in Zamfara not to talk of the North East than those states put together; at one time, June 2017 no less than 728 mainly Fulani women and children were killed by the local Taraba Christian militia - you can click 'Mambila genocide' in youtube and see for yourself.
These ppl were buried quietly without media hype and fanfare; considering the huge number of casualties involved, you would have thought Christian religious groups like CAN would have come out with statements of condemnation like they hypocritically insist and expect from Muslims whenever their Christian brethren suffer such casualties - so far we are yet to hear anything from them except to selectively politicise the Benue killings.
Ojiofor: Aboki the fact is muslims are killing christians in large numbers that is unacceptable.We can't stop muslims from killing each other but they should stay away from killing christians.
How did you arrived at the conclusion that the killers were Muslims and the victims were indeed killed for being Christians?
Farmerforlife: The issue is that Christians tend to be loud mouths who wail and lament at every pinch, with support from their media. That is why if one Christian gets killed everybody hears, while when even hundreds of Muslims get killed, the Muslims will just pray for their brethren and move on.
As for talking sense to them, don't bother, I have grown to realise that it is their sense of hatred alone that drives them, not a sense of logic or desire to reason. When you are acting from an inferior logical standpoint, you have to resort to defamation and disparagement of your competitor in order to retain credibility, at least among the petty minded masses who form the majority of their worshippers.
As for the statements of Trump, they are just ecstatic because they do not really believe in a real God that can help them, despite their hypocritical assertions. They therefore are happy to have had an assistant deity in the person of Trump, to make any kind of promises to them.
Ignore them, they will get tired eventually.
I quite agree with you; however, it behoves on us to sometimes debunk such false narrative.
Currently their main target is the president, they are using his ethnicity and religion to discredit him; unfortunately the damage their cause will continue to remain with us long after he is gone - that is why it is important to checkmate it whenever we can.
The Christian community led by CAN along with their biased media are falsely selling the narrative that the killings were ethnically and religiously motivated; and the president rightly and quickly debunked their allegations as mischief making - as usual they are pained to be told the truth.
dealslip: can you quote these figures? Muslims in the mosque about 60 compared to the New years day massacre in Benue numbering 73. Can you give others? This is not about ignorance. Benue massacre is an everyday affair since 2015
Just click 'mambila genocide' in youtube and you will see a 7 part documentary of how 728 mostly Fulani women and children were killed in Taraba in June 2017 by local militia with the connivance of the state government.
Find below a video clip of the full names and identity of each of the 728 killed - which the media failed to sufficiently cover because it runs against their biased narrative.
gidgiddy: You are funny. Let me ask you one simple question for you to see how stupid you sound. Can you give me one instance of violence or any violent act by IPOB before Python dance? Every day you see pictures and read stories of Herdsmen killing people. Tell me one act of violence by IPOB before Python dance, or did IPOB suddenly become violent with Python dance? What we have had is the violence of security personnel shooting and Killing unarmed IPOB.
Stones and sticks makes IPOB armed? What terrorist organisation have you heard that uses stones and sticks? How many times have you heard that a terrorist organisation uses sticks and stones? Is Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS etc using sticks and stones? What is the comparison of sticks and stones to AK47?
You said that IPOB wants to carve out a territory for its self, yes that's right, and they have the right under international law to agitate for a separate state away from Nigeria. So what Is the problem? Did IPOB use violence?
What is quite laughable is this useless attempt to protect the Herdsmen killers by saying that Herdsmen do not go about with AK47 but that certain groups follow them about to kill people. So It is just by chance that where ever the Herdsmen move in with their Cattle, a killer militia follows them to drive out the host community, yet the Herdsmen have nothing to do with it? Are we kids?
But the biggest question is, why would you go to proscribe IPOB as a terrorist organisation even though IPOB never killed anyone or took up guns?
Yet you try to find every reason under the sun not to proscribe the armed Herdsmen militia killing people on a daily basis.
Have you ever heard of pre-preemptive strike? - you can ask the Americans.
Anywhere in the world, the threat of violence is sufficient grounds to take action against that threat.
The internet is littered with sufficient evidence where Kanu/IPOB was soliciting for arms and threatening Nigeria and Nigerians in general.
Cutlasses, stones and sticks are effective weapons that maim and kill and freely used by IPOB against law enforcement agents in the course of carrying out their legitimate duty of keeping law and order; such weapons were also used by IPOB to kill unarmed innocent travellers of northern extraction - video evidence are still available in case you have forgotten.
No group has the right to stop the Nigerian army from carrying out it routine military exercise such as python dance just because it deems so.
IPOB is free to pursue its right to self determination but it must do this by following the right channels and proceedure - not by taking the law into its hands as it did.
dealslip: It is unfair to say More Muslims are been killed. Do you mean in the North East or Benue, Taraba, or Plateau. Those places are heavily populated by Christians. 90% of the Chibok girls are Christians, Leah Sharibu was held back because of her Christian beliefs, remember BH was bombing churches like mad. Even Churches in the South were apprehensive and started putting heavy security in place. If MURIC, MSSN, Imams had started heavy protest in the past, it wouldn't have had this religious colouration. Two Fathers were killed last week plus parishioners, their houses ransacked. Buhari was practically forced to go to Benue in all this and he was practically forced to send the army there and they haven't been able to make any difference.
My friend the figures don't lie; even yesterday more Muslims were killed in prayer in the mosque; stop toying with ignorance.
Jeswino: Instead of the Muslims to add their voice to the killings, Ishaq Akintola will threaten Christians while Sultan will wait to announce sighting of the moon or one random threat to Kautal hore.
Christians are not creating awareness as the Adeboyes and other prominent people are not speaking out. Muslim leaders too should speak out and let Boko Haram and Buhari know that the killings do not conform with the tenets of Islam.
Muslims are being killed in far greater numbers than Christians.
Muslim leaders have severally condemn the killings, don't know how many times you want them to do so in order to satisfy you; the Sultan had even ordered the MACBAN to carry out a thorough investigation and report those behind such killings within the Fulani community.
Assuming Muslim leaders had remained silent; pls explain how such silence could possibly amount to complicity, connivance or support for such killings that would warrant CAN to come out make it as if the killings were being targeted at Christians?
Do you know that such untrue and unfair statements could cause tension between Muslims and Christians and easily lead us back to the days of religious intolerance and rioting - they are treading on dangerous waters?
SalamRushdie: Oh so its CAN that is now playing a game of politics with religion and not Buhari that has deliberately provided cover for fulanivled Jihadist to carry our religious driven pogroms of some sort in the Middle belt .. No matter how you try to mask the canarge in the Middle belt we all know the truth that it's religious cleansing being done with the seeming blessing of the evil govt and trust me American intelligence knows the difference between farmer herders clash and killing of Christians
Pls exercise some intelligence and prove to me how the killings are religiously motivated e.g. how churches are being replaced with mosques or how Muslims are taking over houses and farmlands of those killed, including any other example that you can think of.
QueenSekxy: shut up there abokii gworo. tell your muslim brothers to stop killing Christians cos when the battle starts,don't even think you are more dangerous than those guys in the east.
And who are you to shut me up? Pls I am not the cause of your frustration, kindly therefore re-direct your aggression elsewhere. Be well advised, do not start what you cannot finish.
veeberry: Even on the face of terror, PMB during a meeting with Donald Trump said that these herders do not carry GUNs but sticks and sometimes knives. This has raised several questions like;
1. What has he done so far 2. Why was he in a haste to proscribe unarmed IPOB terrorists. 3. The guns these herders carry, where are they from 4. Why did he appoint a natural liar from birth his information minister
Not surprised that they said some of our youths are intellectually lazy.
Were IPOB really unarmed; are stones, cutlasses and sticks they wielding at the law enforcement agents toys?
IPOB and Boko Haram fall within the same category as organised insurgents threatening the corporate existence of the country; both want to carve out a piece of Nigerian territory for themselves at the expense of the Nigerian State; there is absolutely no comparison between them in terms of their objectives, structure and modus operandi with the so called 'herdsmen' who are essentially a bunch of loosely organised bunch of criminals without any political ambition other than banditry. The latter therefore pose a completely different security challenge requiring an equally different approach - how is it possible to proscribe a group of bandits? Herdsmen do not go about armed with AK47 or guns while herding their cattle; however, renegade groups among them and other bandits who rob and kill ppl do. Some ppl are going about with false narrative and baseless arguments.
CAN is playing a dangerous game of politics with religion; we all know that no one is currently being killed because of their faith, in fact more Muslims are being killed than Christians; therefore giving the ongoing crisis a religious colouration is potentially explosive likely to further divide Nigerians along the usual fault lines - before we know it , we could easily revert back to those unfortunate days of religious intolerance and rioting.
Philinho: And the growth is not reflecting on employment....That one na growth?
Pls read the article again and translate what this particular paragraph meant?
Employment index showed job creation in the sector expanded at 55 in the month, the twelfth consecutive month of growth. A total of nine subsectors increased their employment level, while three remained unchanged and three reduced their employment level.
@TOPIC:
Continued signs of the economy picking up and positive news for the Buhari administration - though haters would not welcome this outcome; you will see them trying to find something negative to say; while Baba remains completely unfazed and focused on what needs to be done.
kaorama: Lies from a well known liar. The very first one from the evil party in the new month of May. The unproductive workers are mostly your people who have remained the roadblock in the wheel of progress of this country. You will choose to remain parasites, not minding if the country goes down.
TheKingIsHere: It is obvious that you have the comprehension problem. You posted a video of an event that occurred in another country and using it to compare with Nigeria.
You need serious help.
And for your information, they are still selling it up north and there is nothing you can do
You claimed the sale of the drug was legal ignoring the fact that even Emzor deemed the transaction by its sales rep illegal (go back and check the company's own statement) - I am glad the the FG has just joined the core northern states and proscribed it nationwide.
Secondly, the video was part of my prayer for the our authorities to mete out similar punishment to your bloda drug pushers who exploit our vulnerable youths.
Lastly, nobody can completely prevent those determined to smuggle drugs across or within borders of any country; not even countries with stringent laws such as death penalty but drastically reduce the volumes involved - that is why your blodas still continue to traffic drugs into countries like Thailand, Indonesia, China etc and why those caught continue to be returned back home in their caskets.
phase1: The truth remains that muslims have divided the country long ago even before became president. Buhari also played huge part in that division by encouraging the[b] slaughter of millions of christians in the north when he lost elections in 2011.
His infamous 'dogs and baboons to soak in blood' comments are plastered all over historical archives.
Do not blame christians for your woes.[/b]
If you believe that rubbish then you must be very naive or living in another planet.
First of all, the loss of lives involved only a few and not millions as you exaggerated.
Secondly, the post election violence was not a religious uprising as though the victims were targeted for their faith - this is exactly what I was earlier talking about, i.e. how Christians dishonestly twist issues and give it a negative religious colouration e.g. Arabic letters on our banknotes, military insignia etc.
Lastly, the dog and the baboon quote was a complete mis-translation; just like the 97% vs 5% was deliberate mis-quotation by detractors of the president.