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@Ufotuko
Please can you direct me on how to get through with opening a demo account at instaforex. I was trying to download the metatrader that was needed and was being requested for a proxy server info including the password. Which proxy server address should be used there? I have put in the IP address and still can't download.

@Kail
@Jallow

Yeah, you are right. There are many similarities in the dancing, look at the girl in the Olomide video at 10:02 that head curving thing, i see some dancers doing it in the dancehall music videos. Wining seems to have been an age old thing, though nowadays women are more brazen at it. The generation of our parents wine in their women meeting dance, they softly shake their booties while still holding their body modestly. There's a tribe in our country that have a kind of dance in which you see women shaking their booties, all these are accepted as part of dance. It's just nowadays that musicians took it to another level altogether so wining has been around in African culture but wasn't pronounced before. Jallow it's nice of you showing those Gambian dance, this is my first time of having a glimpse into Gambian culture.

@Kail
@Jallow

Yeah, you are right, there are many similarities in the dancing, look at the girl in the Olomide video at 10:02 that head curving thing, i see some dancers doing it in the dancehall music videos. Wining seems to have been an age old thing, though nowadays women are more brazen at it. The generation of our parents wine in their women meeting dance, they softly shake their booties while still holding their body modestly. The yorubas in our country have a kind of dance in which you see women shaking their booties, all these are accepted as part of dance. It's just nowadays that musicians took it to another level altogether so wining has been around in African culture but wasn't pronounced before. Jallow it's nice of you showing those Gambia dance, this is my first time of having a glimpse into Gambian culture.

omakay: I thank God that you are bringing the issue again.I was the person that raised the issue of BARRIERS earlier but everybody just waved my observation aside. As for the issue of when to determine when any of the indices changes movement, am very afraid that that cannot be possible. From my extensive research on the RANDOM WALK, it is not backed up by any statistical data of any sort unlike forex and commodities. From the quote of the author of the book,"RANDOM WALK", it is referred to as,'THE STEPS OF A DRUNK MAN". It is not affected by news, season, weather and the likes. You can get more facts about it through Wikipedia.

I am not interested in when any of the indices changes movement, like you said it is the main trading that determines that-----what i was asking is for us to find out when best to use the different indexing R100,R75,R25 for a slow and fast trend.
What helps me check the change in movement for indices is the bollinger band and the 10SMA curves. I watch where the tip of the curves are headed, when the direction is not clear----i will not make trade but when it shows a steep sure movement i follow it until it stops and begins to curve again trying to change direction.

wapmasta001: FOR THOSE DAT NEED THE BEATBOM EBOOK...DOWNLOAD IT HERE....http://www.beatbom.com/hjjkjjh.exe

Bless you Wapps, I just downloaded it. Thanks very much.

letsurvey: i do not understand plaese ezxplain further, wher do i check if it is a fast moving trend or a slow one.
i have bet that index 25 would go out within5 min with barrier -2.5 and +2.5 and i lost twice what did i did wrongon my virtrual account

@LETSurvey
When you open the interactive, you have to be looking at the spot with the broken line which is moving up and down depending on the direction, if it is moving fast and changing from say +1341.0 to 1342.9 in a twinkle of an eye that shows that it is moving fast and if it is just swinging between 1341.0 to 1340.5 and swinging back and forth not moving farther down or up from there then it is a very slow trend. It has to be bouncing good up and down for it to be called a fast trend and you will see the graph and the candles growing fast and fast but a slow trend does not build candles fast. Thanks

Better be using only a virtual account till you understand this speed thing unless you want to be a BMF (Blowing money fast)

omakay: What parameter do you propose for this strategy?

For the FAST MOVING TREND, i would suggest INDEX 100

For the SLOW MOVING TREND, i would suggest INDEX 25.

Further suggestions from the house are much welcome.

Yeah it is important that we research and experiment and know which random index to use for which trend. Which period to use to watch the interactive better at whatever trend (whether 1M, 5M or 30M) and which barrier to use. I noticed something though, I am thinking that the barrier to use depends on whatever barrier they have written down as soon as you open that bet at first, there was a day a fella was saying here that he doesn't know why they changed the barrier but it seems that barrier is dependent on trade movement and can change according to rate of movement so if the barrier they wrote is + or -2.5, shouldn't it be wise to crop it down to + or -2 for in/out to be sure that it stays in good and same for touch? Just my thinking, we are trying to brainstorm here.

We need to perfect this two method above, anybody that knows when best to use R100,R75,R50 and R25 and when best to use 1M,5M,30M etc can help us brainstorm please.

wapmasta001: Baby check your email... For a message from wapmasta......

@wapmasta
I replied your mail.

Mr Wapps I have been musing over this today, I learnt from today's thread that the best time to use touch/no touch and in/out is this:

Fast moving trend- Use touch in the direction of fastness(don't bother using no touch because it can revert and with the speed disappoint you) and use in/out(reduce the barrier and use goes out because the speed will help it move out of barrier).

Slow moving trend- Use no touch at the area outside the stall point because it is unlikely to get there, use in/out to hedge it down and strictly between because it is more likely not to move far from stall point.

In summary
Fast trend-touch bet/in/out (goes out)
Slow trend-No touch bet/in/out (stays in between)

What do you think?

[quote author=*Kails*]Happy weekend to you too hun!!

thanks for appreciating my ppl/culture [/quote]Yeah and thanks for letting us in on your culture and your people.
I never knew that there are strong headed fellow Africans anywhere in the planet until you began to show them to us. I mean some Caribbean islands have strong headed Africans but you guys (jamos)are simply wonderful, fearless-----many things i haven't time on my hand right now to find words for.

mannet: this BOM people are criminals i swear,my first bet on my real account dis afternoon came out red....am beginning to really reason with Ivynwa,cos early this year a Nigerian guy that once worked for Liteforex told us about all the in-house criminal activities and tweaking of customer accounts to make them loose which was y he left and so many other issues of irregularities,let's keep our fingers crossed.

Are you telling me? I have read of somebody that stopped when his brokers started manipulating his account after realizing that he is making much money at Binary option, which is why i said that we must watch out for any manipulation.

Anyway let's be positive about things in as much we shouldhave our eyes open, the guys here are awesome with their positive spirit. Positivity is a great power so let's stay positive. Sorry about your loss bro, hope you make more successful trading with time.

ufotuko: honestly if it is $40 that you make in a day then i must say that i am no longer interested in the bom trading ,i make at least $8000 monthly from the forex trading business and i still want to earn more and i heard that bom trading can even provide more profits than what i get from forex trading and you are here saying $40.u don fall my hand.

@Ufotuko
Please which broker are you using for your forex, I am almost flowing with these online trading thing and enjoying it. I may do well at Forex if i study it harder. If you guys can make $8,000 through forex in a month then I can do it too.

@Wapmasta
Bros I no dey hear your voice again, abi you no wan give me the E-book "Beat Beton" make I follow beat beton before they beat me --lol.
Abeg i dey wait for you. My e-mail address is ivorybt@yahoo.com. Thanks

@wapmasta
Okay I analyzed your bet from the pics attached. You were hedging it with barriers, that was good and your timing are real short 10minutes, 20 minutes bet. I thought I was the only one making very short time bets. Short time bets pays for a fast moving trend. I think you were able to kill it with that barrier because movement was sluggish today. Good trading.

wapmasta001: I HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE 8AM, UP TILL NOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE GUD MONI WITH LESS RISK, AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT, I MADE THAT HAPPEN USING RANDOM 50, IN A VERY STRATEGIC WAY... I FIGURED OUT TWO STRATEGIES HERE 1 MAKES AT LEAST 3.01$ PROFIT IN A BET OF 20DOLS PAYOUT, WHILE D OTHER UP $5.50 DOLS ALSO....STILL COOKING ANYWAY, I WAS ABLE TO MAKE UP TO 40$ WITH DIZ..... HERE IS D SCREENSHOT BELOW......

Good trading there wapmaster.
Random indices looked good for trading today. I am happy for you.

Please what barrier were you using for random 50. I have never used random 50. what duration are you using.
Nnaa abeg give me that your e-book "beat beton" make I read. Thanks.

@Kail and Jallow

Thanks for the new videos, spicy, naughty , rude----lol.

Yeah Kails I knew you will like them, fresh from Jamo dance steps and lovely dancehall music.
Happy weekend to you ladies

Siena: There's nothing wrong with the picture, I doubt the man in front is the husband. He has his arm around the waist of the girl in front of him. That's most likely his partner. The man behind the bride is most likely the groom.

One thing that's clear though, is the typical Bushman mentality, displayed by lots of Nigerian men. Sun glasses, they're even worn in church, on an overcast day. The average Nigerian wedding wouldn't be complete without them.

I understand your logic that the "b*ttom grabber" may be the husband because of the way the man in front slightly extended his hand to the bridesmaid in front of him but what clearly shows that he is the groom is the way the wife is hugging onto him happily from behind. A woman can't hug the best man like that in a wedding picture. Yeah!
Gosh! what was that best man thinking grabbing a just wedded woman's butt like that, no right thinking person is that naughty with the wife of another in broad day light, in public, at the wedding for that matter. Some things ain't right about that picture, no groom willl like that.

Trading under Random 25 making a good but slow rise in the past few minutes, a good time for "a little touch above it" bet with short durations but it is hanging at the top boundary of the bollinger and can start falling down anytime soon. I was watching it using the 30M period interactive.

wapmasta001: YEAH... I GAT IT

Is it possible to let me read your "Beat betonmarket". My email address is ivorybt@yahoo.com.

sympathy55: i staked 10bet dis morning with 7 touch/no touch, 3 in/out strategy. I won 8 but bom extends the remaining two to 17hours so i had to sell the 2 bets with a gud price. Bom are very trickish at times.

I was wondering whether i was the only one that had her time manipulated by Bom. We have to watch out for this because it shows that they can manipulate things from their end. They are not supposed to do that.

People here are not interested in talking about the authenticity/workability of BOM, guess they are making real money and staying hush about it or something. Guess i will open a thread to get that view.

teeboy4x: cnt i select anything less dan 1day cox am always seeing dix after selecting random indecies

A bet with duration less than one day must expire within the same day on which it was purchased.

I get that whenever it is getting to the end of the 24 hour work/trade day. I am sure that you will not get that now.
My brother that Interactive is very very important, that is what you watch on to see movements and know when to make trade.

Yes you can make tradings less than one day old, click on the duration arrow and choose minutes or hours depending on what you want.

teeboy4x: pls can u tell me the best and easiest strategy and which page to find it let me start learning them ASAP

u can also list some of dem for me...tanx

My brother I am not a guru yet, as i said I am researching on strategies. I just share the little I understood on using random indices consistently. I think that it is good to note some of these strategies being shared here and practice them with a virtual account until one perfects. I started with a virtual account and I still practice with it, that is what I am using to study strategies before choosing the ones to be using good.

Please does anybody have the E-book titled "Beat Betonmarkets".

mannet: Guy something very surprising and fascinating just happened on my BOM virtual account,i have been trading for the past 3 hours and winning almost all my bet but there was one particular trade on random index 25 that i never expected[b] i was going to loose so i decide to check out the details and discover that BOM has played a fowl game and i believe this is how they also do with real account.Please see the screen shot below and correct me if am wrong.[/b]
will upload the screen shot soon,this is a sign that no strategy is 100% we should all be very careful while trading tanx.

Sometimes I feel like they are trying to play smart. I may click a touch on a bet this moment only to see that the duration they distanced it is very far from where I intended it.

Please does anybody know how many minutes they give one the opportunity to sell a bet, sometimes when you want to sell you will realize that the "sell" icon is no more active. I read somewhere that one can apply a percentage stop-loss order and I wondered whether it is embodied on the BOM site for one to set limit and at say a 20 or 30 percent stop-loss order, it will automatically sell bet or is it only that mechanical clicking of "sell bet" that is available?

This BOM thing is delicate and one needs to understand the strategies, I am searching around for strategies so that I can improve on it lest one becomes a BMF (Blowing money fast), na hard currency person dey deal with in BOM and we all know that 0.1US dollars has good value in our country so make every body dey careful o o. I am watching this to see whether one can make good headway with it which is why I want to hear success stories for reassurance. Abeg if I try my best and if it is clear to me that it is a smart intelligence thing them foreign scientists/mathematicians are using to outsmart people, I will drop it fast.

If you enter a losing streak in this kind of thing, it will almost seem like there is somebody at the other side of the network outsmarting your every move . There are times one wins and wins and I wonder whether it is all a ruse for you to win a few and lose plenty and at the end lose. I am talking from my experience with another kind of online financial technology. We need to be clear on this and be sure that it is paying and that it isn't a technology designed to siphon stuffs out of people's pocket. I think that we should debate on that here actually so let me know what you think about BOM. Is it sustaining and enriching people or is it a technology designed to outsmart others? If people here are more interested in making their greens than in discussing it and knowing where we are headed then we can cut out the discussion. Peace and greens, people!

goldingdyke: if u have been following saintfaculty's post, i remember he said that u should not do this all day long.
For me, the only random indices i trade all day long is random index 75 which is fast n i use the touch option, it always touch. it has never failed me.

Thank u guyz, time to withdraw all my cash to payment agent n start afresh with my card.

I checked out that your Random 75 and it is really fast moving and good for making touches depending on the direction but the problem is that the direction is also fast moving, it can dip and clip anytime. Bollinger band is my best friend and is very very good for them random indices as it kind of bounds it and tells you the limit they are heading to (most times it surpasses those boundaries when making breakouts) but it helps you know how far it is travelling. If you have no bollinger band there you may follow it sheepishly and will not know the limit/boundaries. I use 20 period bollinger band and apply 10 period simple moving average(SMA). The two outer curves of the bollinger and the 10 SMA (twisting around the middle broken line of the bollinger) both guides you on the journey. You can easily see the 10 SMA curve dipping/nosediving downward when trend dips or flying north when uptrending.You will see the 10 SMA rigmarolling around the middle broken lines in the middle of the bollinger which is a 20 period SMA, whenever they meet (crossover) there may be a slow change of trend so when it crosses you shouldn't touch too much because it may change direction.

@dagr
You asked how to know the speed. I place it on 1M and watch its movement to know how far it is moving. If it moves down to say 1426.5 and moves far to 1427.5 and swings in between the two repeatedly, then you will know that a touch within that zone in the direction of travel is likely to be successful and you will apply your other indicators to know the direction it may be headed to and place your barrier less than/below and within + or -1 depending on the direction(1427.5-1426.5=1). If it keeps rising and rising or falling and falling you will know that it is speeding (that is a good time to make a touch bet) and when it is swinging between a short range and remaining there without moving much, it is stalling and that is not a good time to make touches yet a good time to make a no-touch above and below the range of stall. Sometimes the touch bet is not successful sometimes it is. It is only successful for a fast moving trend with a clear direction that you are very sure of. I read that it is more successful when used in the reversal trading, I am going to practise that reversal strategy and when I perfect at it will begin to use it. Heard that it has more probability of win.

Nobody will believe that I am running two hours late to work, glued to the computer from 5pm yesterday till this moment. What the fr*ak! I gotta find some lil lie to tell at work, Jeez.

This Random Indices 25 sweet o-o-o, i will share more when i can compute, mR dagr we go chat about the speed later okay.

I just want to quickly say that Random indices is lovely after all, I lost some money while at it and fought hard to get it back and in the course of that learnt a few things i will share here thanks to Omakay's 30M interactive graph. I employed Bollinger and moving average and was able to see that Random 25 is making a great move that one can cash in on right on.You can see it well with the bollinger indicator which is dispersing. It is making a great upward trend that one can be setting touches and catching, you just have to watch out for moments it stalls and you hedge it with barrier wide enough for it not to pass in in/out and make a little money. If you hedge when it is speeding, it will pass it and you will lose. You just have to watch it and go for touch when it speeds up or set a barrier in /out when its stalling. I will share more later. Have been awake all night fighting this and it's almost time for work now. Jeez, I am going to sleep/moon walk at work today, thanks to BOM.

omakay: @ dagr8, you are on cause but you bet duration is very low. You have to give the candlestick enough room to breath. What is your payout percentage when you take such bets? I suggest that you switch to the 30M chart to do a better analysis. You can do a calculation of the historical candlesticks you are seeing to determine the average time each one will travel during it's life -time.

I always take my bets @ exactly :00 of the hour and also :30 of that same hour. This makes it two bets per hour.

Mr Omakay please how do you calculate the average time the candlessticks travel during their life time, this is a great key to Random indices, how did you make studies as to arrive at that? I mean if nobody has done that before then this is a great discovery, another Bollinger Omakay Band (lol). I will appreciate it much if you can give me an insight into that, I will like to be able to calculate that. Thanks

meritdee: On Bollinger and stochastic indies, you can attach them and test their magic with a virtual account to know how genuine they could be.. I'll try it myself at my leisure time to see if they could pass the test of time. No one is an island of knowledge here. NOTE: Almost every indie works fine, only if you can try hard to understand their secret. You are contributing to the thread in on way or the other.

Only random indices runs 24/7, but forex as you would know its currency related and banks opens 5 days a week (Mon tru Fri). So the forex market are bound to be stagnant during weekends. This is why BOM closes its shop on forex every friday and opens it Sunday nights cuz of the early Australia market session.. You would across the answer to that in school of pipsology.

Thanks meritdee