₦airaland Forum

liveLongNprospa:
That is exactly the issue.
Tunde was told APC will use him for propaganda.
What people did not see coming was the swiftness and also the situation the apc would use him.
They used the image yesterday so that people will do "oh oooo I said it ooo" and focus more on him.
People did and then clocked what was happening and focused back on tinubu.


Personally, I'm just waiting for this bayelsa issue to pass unless something drastic is done

[color=royalblue]What happened in Bayelsa?
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raumdeuter:
Tinubu a private citizen of Lagos state will be calling the governor of Borno state to show workings?
Is the Borno governor answerable to Tinubu under any arrangement?

Izzou when will you start calling the governor of a state not yours say Zamfara to start showing workings

[color=royalblue]So why was he dragging GEJ?

Is GEJ answerable to Tinubu too?[/color]

sleekdot:
He condemned the SOE because he felt Jonathan didnt give the governors enough room to exercise their authority as CSO of their state but quickly took over their duties

[color=royalblue]So where exactly was he asking for the governors to show workings?

Is there any where Tinubu asked Borno state governor to protect his people from BH?[/color]

sleekdot:
Tinubu from your evidence showed he is a democrat following the rule of law and allowing the state government to perform their duties without FG overreach

By the time he was criticizing FG to take responsibility for Borno, there was no governor at that time. Its was full SOE

[color=royalblue]I thought the site was using English Language

GEJ declared SoE, and Tinubu condemned it

Abi no be wetin you read?[/color]

raumdeuter:
In 2014, There has been a State of Emergency in Borno from May 2013 which was in effect till 2014

With the SoE, effectively the governor stopped being the CSO of the stat
Just like you can't blame Fubara today is there is any trouble in Rivers tonight. He is no longer in charge

So Tinubu blamed the right person in 2014.

[color=royalblue]This is Tinubu, blaming Abuja for putting a State of Emergency. The same SoE wey you wan use score goal now

After the SoE, he blamed Abuja for not providing security

Nowhere did he blame the governor of Borno state. Show me one single link of him calling out those 3 governors in 2013/2014.
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https://dailypost.ng/2013/05/17/emergency-rule-the-country-is-adrift-we-have-never-had-it-so-bad-tinubu/

KingTom:
No leave am, no just leave am grab am tight!

[color=royalblue]Let's wait for the tide and wavelength of the Amala stick.[/color]

[color=royalblue]See as a whole President of USA dey jubilate because Putin call am.

What kind of embarrassment is this guy aiming for ? [/color]

raumdeuter:
Tinubu has always been an advocate for true federalism where every federating unit is able to stand on its own. He is implementing what he fought for, it's now for the governors to do their part

[color=royalblue]Why didn't he blame Borno governor then?[/color]

Ihebu4chelsea:
Oga izzuo, Chelsea get match abeg come make we go watch match. Forty characters completed!

[color=royalblue]I dey on transit now.

I go follow updates online, and on the thread.[/color]

raumdeuter:
Cruise how?

We need to decide if we want to run a federal system or just a system where everything comes from Abuja

Our governors are the most blessed set of people, just collect allocation and point all responsibilities to Abuja. They dont even need to try, we the citizens are okay with blaming Abuja while our governor just ghosts

Some people here barely know their state governors name. They hardly point anything or responsibilities to their governors everything is Tinubu and Abuja

If the governors dont know their work they can resign and leave everything to Abuja

[color=royalblue]So you know better than Tinubu, who was pointing to Abuja in 2014?[/color]

raumdeuter:
That will be the appropriate time to properly evaluate the gains and losses of the 8yr administration or you think 2years is enough to evaluate

[color=royalblue]A woman lost 5 of her relatives.

You have an idea of what that looks like?[/color]

raumdeuter:
Its not by starched uniform nor by sack clothes. Its by the ammunition given to them to defend themselves given the type of things they face

[color=royalblue]You forgot terrain oh. When we asked why the FG is not deploying those with the right firepower, you said it was locals who know the terrain, that can salvage the situation

You have seen locals. Now, it's ammunition

Ideally, it should be Octogenarians leading the vigilantes.

They know the terrain more than Alia[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Tinubu Don provide money (allocation) to the state government, so the locals should be their own government and don't disturb emilokan since he Don share money. 🚶

[color=royalblue]Like you said, it's a pattern

The only time they will castigate and criticize Tinubu on insecurity would be 2030.

They did the same for Buhari. Praised him on security with each passing day. As 2023 reach, dem begin talk the opposite direction.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
At least now u can confirm the Benue state has a paramilitary outfit that obviously has not been able to prevent the incessant attacks like I said earlier.

So can we go back to asking Tinubu for what exactly his federal government armed forces are doing?

[color=royalblue]These ones are not local enough

We need locals wearing sackclothes with hoes hung on their shoulders

Those are the ones that know the terrain.

Jokers[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Tinubu has already pronounced himself a failure in his old tweets. It is obvious Nigeria has no government going by the reoccuring terrror attacks in Benue state.

[color=royalblue] Nigeria has no government...and he was correct

Can we say the same now? Or we should look for locals to blame?[/color]

diggz:
Why didn’t Emilokan allow the Governor of Rivers State to take the lead before rushing to declare a state of emergency within 48 hours?

Egbon, it’s beginning to look like the lives of over 200 people murdered by bloodthirsty terrorists mean nothing to you and Tinubu—or is it simply because these were human lives, not cows?

[color=royalblue]You see this One Party state that is looking like a reality? It will be Nigeria's greatest undoing.

I really hope that those who are happy that one great cult of impunity that is about to be formed, will be able to hold back the tears when it comes.

Because you will cry, and nobody will hear you.

I expect Benue people to do a solidarity march for Alia/BAT 2027 before the year runs out.

Nigerians can be that stuuuupid[/color]

raumdeuter:
The point is if SW, SE are doing 5, Benue should be doing 50 because na them the thing dey hit pass. The guys on ground know themselves better than the guy in Abuja
Alia should do better and not be going to pay condolence visit every Monday morning. Meet force with force and see what happens

Begging praying and wishing it away has failed

[color=royalblue]Okay.

What should Tinubu do?[/color]

Bluelines69:
That comparison weak me, comparing area boys and normal street security to armed militia who are only out to kill both young and old irregardless.

[color=royalblue]These guys are not even giving them the chance to live

No kidnap, no ransom.... Nothing nothing

Just enter a community, spray bullets and leave.

This is what we should compare to One Chance, or kidnappings, ehn?[/color]

raumdeuter:
Are you saying the security votes of the state government cannot afford more than machetes

[color=royalblue]I am not defending Alia on this matter

My point is that the mess is way bigger and different from what we are seeing in the SW and SE; which you people are comparing it with.

These guys will enter a community and clear the inhabitants. It's different from someone trying to graze on your land.

That's the point you are missing. [/color]

Ellexy:
That excuse was downright pathetic. Soldiers are trained to face enemies in any terrain, familiar or not. That’s literally their job description.

Him trying to argue that a civilian who's more familiar with the locality is somehow better suited than a fully trained combat soldier is funny.

It's not like the herdsmen committing these atrocities know the terrain more than the locals, yet they're operating anyhow.

[color=royalblue]What about the arms?

Let Tinubu be campaigning for 2027, while locals carry their machetes to combat with someone holding a stainless AK-47 [/color]

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— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) June 16, 2025

Olowunl01:
So when 1Million Boys where disturbing some areas of lagos did we call on the president to sort it out? We have pockets of communal clashes happening with substantial death toll and we all expect the governor to sort it out not the president.

If Tinubu declares SoE in Benue today, then any occurrence becomes his total responsibility, however Alia bears first responsibility whilst Tinubu is secondary.

Not a fan of APC using security challenges to score political point, however Bokoharam directly attacked the Nigerian goverment and seat of power, and moreover Jonathan declared SoE.

Let NC try paramilitary setup, so we can put to bed if these guys are herders and land grabbing murderers or terroist? Right now as an outsider it is looking like murderous land grabbers, and the reason death toll is so high is that they don't face any resistance.

[color=royalblue]You need to understand what you are comparing

People are entering communities with the only aim to kill people. No kidnap, no ransom. Just enter and kill

Is this what you are comparing to people who will let you be, if you give them your phone?[/color]

raumdeuter:
Do they have divisions in every state? No one can know the terrain like the local people. Will it be Audu from Bauchi in Ibadan cantonment that will know the intricacies of Igbo-Ora or Kishi forest in Oyo state

[color=royalblue]So you don't know that Nigerian Army has a division in every state in Nigeria?[/color]

raumdeuter:
20% is still better than 0%. That said the improvements we have seen from SW, Anambra, SE suggests that over time the effectiveness can be more than 20%.

It even provides a bedrock for FG forces to work with. Abuja soldiers coming dont know your terrain like you, If you have something on ground already, its easier to work with FG on it

[color=royalblue]So NA doesn't have Divisions in states again?

Na Abuja all of dem base, abi?[/color]

Theflint1:
It's easy to say some ragtag vigilante groups are the ones keeping states in the South safe when it's not your state faced with the full might of these rampaging terrorists.

[color=royalblue]200 people killed in one location

And you dey talk say make dem get vigilante?

Maybe na 2 by 2 dem take kill 200 people at once[/color]

raumdeuter:
In Borno and Yobe under Boko Haram they have civilian JTF which went a long way to help the FG forces. I dont think we have an idea of how this Federal system works when its time to collect allocation every state will have a voice, when its time to deliver, they become voiceless

Maybe we should abolish all states and just be one unitary govt where Abuja is responsible for everything in Omu Aran, Afikpo and Potiskum

[color=royalblue] Insecurity and Conflict always starts from a state.

All the NAF jets and NA tanks that have been neutralizing attacks so far, are in somebody's state.

Only deaths in Benue alone, might be more than some Northern states, yet we haven't seen the effect of anything from the FG.

Blame Alia, and I am with you, but why are you defending Tinubu on it? You have even descended so low to start comparisons of casualties.

Tinubu should kuku remove Security from his agenda.[/color]

Olowunl01:
Exactly, I think their leaders are timid because of their own political considerations, NC historical have big time generals so sourcing and training of paramilitary wouldn't be difficult.

If I was Alia I would immediately form a paramilitary group to br headed by Useni or any of their ex-military generals lets see if this guys will try nonsense.
The Southwest through Amotekun said No, similar in the South East, state that has a governor cannot be having round the clock killings, until Tinubu declares state of emergency imho this is still on the governor.

[color=royalblue]So what exactly has Tinubu done so far to assist security in Benue?

Why is there a Security agenda on his manifesto, if the governors only are responsible for it?

When it is Borno or Sokoto, FG is responsible

When it is any other state in Nigeria, go and form vigilantes.[/color]

[color=royalblue]With all these killings in Benue, Raumdeuter has not called out Tinubu for once.

You have pointed to Heaven, earth, indigenes, governor, Satan, except Tinubu

Like 200 people killed in one day, and that's not enough reason for Benue people to ask of the President.

My braaada, I really hope say you get something wey you dey benefit from this government oh. That has to be the only explainable reason to me.[/color]

TrebleChamp:
People who were caught with guns are innocent people? Ok when bandit/kidnappers come to your village to kill and kidnap, i hope your people will roll out red carpet to welcome them when dey see armed unknown men inside a bus entering your community...

[color=royalblue]I am just advising oh. I no talk pass like that.

We all saw the guns they carried. We all saw that they were on transit, and not inside some hideous places in the bush.

Take revenge for your communities, but please, an innocent man will always be an innocent man, whether he's in Iran, Israel or Northern Nigeria.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Exactly
Win all key politicians to apc to make election one sided
Arrant madness

[color=royalblue]When Alia was mocking the opposition, there would be some people who would be supporting him.

Instead of ensuring there's a side to put pressure on accountability, we laugh them to scorn

200 people don die, Padre dey go Channels TV dey speak English.[/color]

iamoyindamola:
If e didn't they e no they

[color=royalblue]Padre Alia and Tinubu for 2027.

That's all that matters for now. [/color]

[color=royalblue] Tinubu's statement in a nutshell;..

We are not trying to catch any killer or herdsmen. You people should just stop attacking each other online and offline, so these killings can reduce.

As for bringing anyone to book because of this? We have no plans for that.[/color]