₦airaland Forum

obainojazz:
But how much is remitted to the government coffers?

Let’s even forget people that pay way below what they should be paying…

I’ve seen some people that had to pay five years worth of tax to show proof for japa purposes…. Now imagine how many that didn’t japa not paying.

Do you believe all revenue collected from drivers goes to the state account?

[color=royalblue]You are making my point for me.

That data captures those who are documented.

But there are many people who pay tax to the government that are not documented.

A haulage bus pays 4000 every day in Alaba International to Local government boys. This is not captured in your data

Abi no be tax be that?[/color]

abduleez1:
Ogun state is actually the most stupid state in Nigeria I've ever seen. Anytime I hear about that state na vex I dey.
Imagine the industries and factories in that state and it's proximity to Lagos. That state factories sef fit be times two of Lagos. I wonder what they do with their IGR for years.

Once you leave Lagos enter that state and e roads you go dey vex. Roads worse than bad state. You'll now be wondering whether some of the roads had ever been paved in its lifetime before.

E be like suffering and mediocrity no dey tire those indigenes.

[color=royalblue]The IGR they post online does not even reflect in the condition of that state.

That state suppose dey compete with development for Lagos.

There are more industries there than even Lagos (I might be wrong though)[/color]

obainojazz:
Below is from PWC around 2015

[color=royalblue]All the ones that Local government used to collect, especially the daily tickets that traders and commercial bus drivers pay, i hope you know it is not captured in this data?[/color]

Amigoss:
Diesel,kerosene,Lng subsidies have been removed,we didn't die and "obedients" didn't protest.

[color=royalblue]It should be LPG, not LNG.

And yes, i am surprised at how we all moved on, after the tax waiver was reinstated[/color]

Roland17:
Dayo, if you say we are poor, which I may agree with, then why are we running an expansive government that is expensive and riddled with high recurring costs?

To Izzou's example, if you say we are poor, why is a State Governor purchasing a car worth N300M? How many of such irresponsible purchases is Kogi incurring, especially when you consider the State barely generates anything? If 1 car that he may not return to the State after his tenure costs N300M, then what is the cost of all the cars he alone is using? We are poor but we are operating an expensive government across the 3 levels like we are the United States? Using insecurity as an excuse doesn't make it any reasonable.

Kogi State is poor and doesn't generate enough to keep it alive but somehow, Bello's wife is wanted by EFCC for the misappropriation of N3Billion belonging to the people of Kogi...What gives? Are we really poor or are our leaders corrupts and use expansive government as an avenue to steal from the people?

[color=royalblue]Lol.

We are poor truly. Until the budget is that of Texas, we may not be able to achieve much.

Even that 3 billion can only impact a community. It won't do much in a local government, talk more of a state.
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Amigoss:
Who vex you today sir?

[color=royalblue]There are many public schools without desks and boards

It is even in Lagos that we have decent government hospitals. I am assuming 300 million can increase the supply of drugs to government owned hospitals by few months

Let us assume that we need a budget of New york to be able to make life habitable for its citizens.

We go dey alright finally[/color]

seankafor:
name one significant infrastructure or project that can be done with 300 million?

Let me help you...

Borehole

Primary School

Few kilometer road 🛣️..

What else?

[color=royalblue]You have said it all.

It can't even build bore hole sef.

You need 365 million to build one[/color]

raumdeuter:
He wont bring his personal car for official business would he?

Before he can do any project for the people of Kogi he has to be alive, I don't know any human being who will not prioritize his own personal safety given the state of security in the country

Even Buhari the friend of the talakawa rides a FG bullerproof car, It wasnt like Buhari was driving a Corolla before office

[color=royalblue]My comment was on the value of $400k in Nigeria.

I no sabi if him wan stay alive or get personal car[/color]

seankafor:
300 million can only be significant if injected in a community..

Not even a local government nor a state

[color=royalblue]It should actually be a family, not even a community

300 million can only be significant if injected in a family[/color]

raumdeuter:
Its not like these car companies make cars specially for Nigeria. By the time you buy a top grade SUV, Ship it to Nigeria and bulletproof it for obvious reasons you will be touching almost $400K

Do you think a governor will drive a non bulletbroof car in Nigeria? If you think so ask Ifeanyi Ubah why he is alive to see this day

[color=royalblue]So he was driving Toyota corolla for the past 5 years, and he suddenly remembered bullet proof in 2023?

I like how you shifted from what 300 million can do for the people of Kogi, to how he needs bullet proof cars to survive[/color]

raumdeuter:
Not to sound insensitive, $400K is not really a lot. I know Naija guys here who drive cars of over 250K and they have more than 1 of these cars

We are complaining because the size of the cake is small that's why it touches us more.

[color=royalblue]You are actually sounding insensitive, my oga ( no offence)

400k dolls is approximately 300 million naira

You want to tell me that if a state governor injects 300 million into any sector in his state, it won't make any significant improvement?

300 million naira?

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[color=royalblue]A sitting governor spent $400,000 on one car.

Do you know what that money can do in the midst of the poor people?

Lol. Nigeria is truly a very poor country[/color]

DontBullshitMe:
It's not a white and black thing. FG is richer, stronger and more powerful than all 36 states put together. Evidence of this - Naira redesign.

I want APC out at FG level primarily because of low GDP growth recorded from 2015-2022 and Tinubu's mental deterioration.

I don't concern myself with State level politicking because as long as Nigeria states don't become richer, nothing significant will change. But you are free to wait for a Messiah Governor after Soludo to turn Anambra to Japan. Your choice.

[color=royalblue]Your ideology contradicts your choice in this matter

But then, if it makes you believe you're sounding intelligent, abeg ride on.[/color]

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
not true

[color=royalblue]Okay[/color]

DontBullshitMe:
There is no state in Nigeria without thousands of unsolved murders. Bring another point.

I am not defending Soludo anyway, I'm just letting you know there is no difference between him, SanwoOlu, Makinde, Ikpeazu, Yahaya Bello, Dapo Abiodun etc. Same Same

And even if Soludo was replaced Today, nothing significant will change in Anambra.

[color=royalblue]We will not change him then.

We will pass laws to keep them, afterall nothing significant will change.

I wonder why you wanted APC out sef. Since nothing changes, why are you now against APC?[/color]

DontBullshitMe:
So, which Governor is not "Mr All-talk-less-action"??

There is no Governor that can be rated above 2/10 in Nigeria and this is because states in Nigeria are not rich enough to take up major roles in driving significant economic development. All they do is just construct 5 km roads, repaint some hospitals and schools. Then, go on an aggressive PR drive to show that they are performing.

The Anambra that you want Soludo to turn to Japan has about 500 million dollars yearly budget, remove salaries, debt servicing, wetin remain?

Jokes on you if you think one Nigeria Governor is better than the other because of aggressive PR campaign.

[color=royalblue]Anambra has an insecurity problem

Soludo met it there and after 2 years it is worse.

Under his administration, a HOA member was killed and beheaded. Till now, no arrests, no conviction

Maybe we should not even be voting anymore since all of them make 1 million kobo a year as IGR

SMH[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Read what I wrote again

[color=royalblue]I have not said tribal attacks were carried out on any igbos.

I said with the way this election is going, a loss to APC in Lagos may spell violence for everybody.

It was him that said there were attacks on Igbos in 2019. I have asked for proof and up till now, there is now.

How he is suddenly spinning that to "I told you so" is what i don't understand[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
I thought we were referring to the 2019 election as an example of when tribal attacks were carried out on igbo dominated areas?
Unless I dey mistake am

[color=royalblue]I thank God you were part of the discussion

You see as him don turn the amala?[/color]

Donjazet2:
Chineke meee!!

Na izzuo dey talk this thing?? The same izzuo that kept denying the same exact thing I kept warning and warning and warning about??

Na now your day break to have seen what I've been telling you about tinubu's APC in Lagos?

Thank God for you izzuo my dear elder brother (in PO's voice).
You've come a long way.
The way you kept providing cover for and enabling people who were highly guilty of spreading tribal hate was something else. Thank God you've seen the light oo.

[color=royalblue]You are not okay, mentally.

We were talking about 2019 election. And yes, there was no attacks on Igbos. I asked you for proof and you disappeared

Please, i really don't want to argue here as usual.

If you cannot understand what i am saying, leave the post. [/color]

Roland17:
PDP and LP will still carry their Big head to that same market to pitch Igbo people against APC.

Like you, I just want peace because the state means a lot to Nigeria, believe it or not. I can't wait for Saturday to come and go biko!

[color=royalblue]Whatever the outcome is, people should be able to move about in peace.

Because with what i am seeing, we fit dey house for some time because of violence[/color]

Roland17:
Nwanne,

I really wish these people will leave Igbo people alone and just focus on campaigning to Lagosians. This is why I said this nonsense is intentional and people like Elliot did not invent this wheel. I look at the pic posted by @liveLongandProsper and I wonder, isn't this the same spare parts market that was politically weaponized in the lead up to the presidential elections?

Lagos is littered with tribes from across the country, please go and campaign to eligible voters, stop using Igbo people as narratives because when it goes South, Igbo people will still suffer the brunt of it. I don't know if you have been following my comments recently but I am sick and tired of this nonsense. I am expecting my Yoruba brothers and sister to call this nonsense out but everyone is staying mute and pretending like they can't see the nonsense going on.

Please go out and campaign to Lagosians.

[color=royalblue]Apart from the fact that i like Sanwo-Olu, i really want him to win for the sake of peace.

The kind of bile spreading about in the name of Yoruba/Igbo is something else.

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Donjazet2:
Mana points e na e'me nwere ka odi.

Generally when people say I hope you won't shout rigging, it's like they are saying people are crying wolf. In order words, what they're saying it's not true.
That's why I'm asking you if you think our elections were free and fair. What we've just seen.

[color=royalblue]I have not said it was fair

The man said LP will win HOA in Anambra from top to bottom

I simply told him that Obi is no longer in this picture. APGA, PDP and even APC candidates are igbos who may even be loved by their electorates because of maybe zoning, clan, achievements etc

If he doesn't see LP winning top to bottom, he should not translate it to rigging.

Please, what is the abomination in this statement?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
If there's evidence of rigging, should I keep quiet?

[color=royalblue]You clearly saw my comment there.

When your expectations are cut short, i hope you don't translate it to rigging.

Afterall, you have told us LP will sweep all the HOA seats in Anambra[/color]

Donjazet2:
When I read comments like these, I ask myself if people think people are just shouting rigging for no just cause..

Izuchukwu simple question, do you think the 25th elections were free and fair and devoid of rigging?

[color=royalblue]Kindly scroll past, my brother.

Ike back-and-forth adiro kwa mu wa, biko[/color]

[color=royalblue]APC in Lagos is just wasting their time turning this to a Yoruba/Igbo affair

There are many people who are not even Igbos but want APC out.

Most of the commercial bus drivers i have engaged with do not want APC because of Owo-mi-da boys. And these men are not even Igbo; Yoruba and Muslim too.

Sanwo-Olu may be pursing what is not even missing sef[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
We agree that LP candidates benefitted from Obi.. But that same thing has reawakened the political consciousness in the east most especially.

Have you not seen the politicians calling themselves Obidients just to save their head?

Like I said, Saturday will confirm the influence of Obi and Obidients.

[color=royalblue]I don't need to comfirm his influence. He has it already, and APC and PDP would be looking out for his partnership in the future.

But we are talking about Obi here. Just Obi

Let's watch. I just hope we will not hear of rigging if your expectations are cut short[/color]

larride:
Even Obi couldn't save himself as he lost his senate election.

Election between 2 indigene will always be complex.

[color=royalblue]It is

On the 25th, it was Obi vs Yoruba vs Fulani

Now, it has descended to local government,clan, village and all that.
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GloriousGbola:
obidient mentality - we will promote any fk up even if it hurts us.

that is how we play the long game

[color=royalblue]If Tinubu had removed subsidy on the 30th, i am sure you won't type this

I think the grouse is because Buhari is removing it on his last day, which is actually hypocritical

But all these talks of increasing the suffering is just bullshhit.

Tinubu himself said he will remove it, and I am pretty sure you clapped when he said it.

Make una stick to one prayer point, so God sef go know which one to answer[/color]

[color=royalblue]I really hope Obidients don't get disappointed with some of the outcomes this weekend.

For me, 25th was a different ball game. Obi was the mandate, and all the NASS and Senatorial candidates rode on that wave.

Ortom supported Obi, but you can't tell me he is supporting LP from top to bottom. Many people who voted Obi still have candidates in other parties that they clamour for.

Let us not get our expectations too high. Other parties will win even in the SE.[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Normally 2yrs is long in politics but soludo has a big mouth and it will cost APGA this weekend seats in the HOA.
That should have a ripple effect on him.
LP already has their own governorship candidate in Anambra who is quite known and would not jeopardise that for a man who doesn't have the backing of his people.

And one last thing, soludo's mouth will keep putting him in trouble

[color=royalblue]Backing of his people?

The people are voting LP because of OBI. Remove him from the centre, and no LP candidate will get 1000 votes in any election

2 years is enough time for Charles and Peter to get in bed and call each other romantic names.
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[color=royalblue]2 years is too long to predict any downfall for Soludo.

Soludo can decamp to LP before then, and the same people stoning him now, will be the ones hailing him. Make una no dey let politicians use una head.

That said, i hope he finishes his 4 to 8 years and get out from there.

Mr All-talk-less-action[/color]

lateefGRDT:
lol.. Those disbanded agbero will turn armed rubber terrorizing people again... Which would you prefer to face agbero or armed rubber??

[color=royalblue]How come you and i are not doing Agbero or Armed robbery?

I don't even see how this excuse of accommodating extortionists makes Lagos better. There are so many youths doing meagre jobs; conductors, hawkers, artisans just to survive. Then after the labour, one other person stands with a stick to extort them.

And then, we say it is a way to curb armed robbery. Is this not robbery in your eyes?

If only you know how much consumers pay for commodities just because of agbero, you'll know you are being robbed daily in Lagos.

Make everybody kuku carry stick.[/color]