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Skimpledawg:
Brotherly, I dey busy with wifey and ministry work o. Programs after programs.

The Canada waka never click yet. Soon, by God's grace.

I hear say Prof. Soludo knack PO akpako, naso I say make I enter this thread to read views and opinions.

Learnt Tinubu our man was campaigning for PDP today. Sure say the Hope go renew so?

[color=royalblue]Soludo knack Obi yesterday. Obi use better fire truck quench am. The thing no even last 24 hours

Old age don catch up with BAT....Very normal.

But Nigerians no dey hear word...They prefer to learn from experience.

So yes, "Imaginary Hope" needs to be renewed[/color]

raumdeuter:
I dont know. I did not employ him nor sign his paycheck

[color=royalblue]Then how does it make sense that someone leaves a firm where he can make $850k bonus for where he would be paid $2,400?

Where is the sense in what you are defending, sir?[/color]

Itsrm:
The thing with this egbon is there's nothing he can't defend. So Tinubu made 1.8m dollars from his salary and a one time payment.

You live and work in the US. How many accountants do you know who make that kind of money in 2022?

[color=royalblue]Everybody wear Pampers for here naa
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Skimpledawg:
I really thought I will return from the mountain and meet you a changed man.

Alas! Still the same

[color=royalblue]Where you dey since, apostle?

I suspect you are preaching the word in Canada.

You don leave us to renew our hope abi?[/color]

raumdeuter:
Why not? The money he claimed he made from Delitte was a 1 time payment not consistent salary.

[color=royalblue]What was his salary at Deloitte? [/color]

raumdeuter:
He made his money in Yankee already, He wanted to be on ground in Nigeria to work as an accountant so that he can be closer to his base and launch his political

People wey get money still dey go work

[color=royalblue]For a lesser pay?
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Jodera:
I don't know about the rules in Qatar but even in football rules, it's not advisable to take your shirts off in celebration that's why a yellow card is always given when a player does that

[color=royalblue]So the yellow card is no longer enough?

Qatari government need to give their own sanctions abi?[/color]

BlueRayDick:
If u look well enough , u will see enough Nigerians staying in Nigeria who will vote Tinubu even if he’s push to the polling unit on a wheelchair .

I encounter people like that on a daily basis .

[color=royalblue]E remain milk[/color]

Ellexy:
Well I see a chance in 2023 to correct a diré mistake that was made in 2015. We can't afford another 4 or 8yrs in the hands of Apc having seen their capacity and results the last 7yrs.

As for the how, the answer to that is subjective as not everyone is open to discussing the core secrets to their administration if elected.

But one thing is clear, if APC has the solution to Nigeria's problems, the results will show but they don't. Anything they're saying and promising now is like ponzi scheme. Renewed shege and hopelessness.

[color=royalblue]This one is as clear as the sun.

Incoming president dey avoid media. I wonder what will happen when he becomes president.
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BlueRayDick:
This was my thought too prior to the creation of this thread ( from the Chelsea thread), but now I know better.

The same people that made videos and cartoon lamenting Buhari's frequent medical trips abroad ; they are the one's fronting a man that has been going on medical trips even before being elected.

As e dey go sef , e go reach one point ehn, u fit just say ; 4ck it ! Let the man enter make the people wey wan see shege actually see the shege their eyes wan see .

[color=royalblue]You never reach the point?

Point wey i don pass tey tey[/color]

Roland17:
@Izzou

I insist, Uncle Chukwu exposed his inexperience in Governance with this Obi issue. I swear, I wish he had just left this alone or addressed it in a more mature manner because this has become a huge distraction. He has ended up pitching himself against a section of the same people he should be governing.

Going into the weekend and next week, I wish not to read anymore from him about this issue and Obidients. I need him on the ground working and trying to fix Anambra because this has been a dumpster.

[color=royalblue]I just listened to Obi's response, and i clearly see your point.

Obi said he should roof the schools he didn't roof.

He really has put his tenure on the spotlight. I hope he proves the people wrong[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
It doesn't matter who made this precedent but it is there and Okowa doesn't come across as the individual to be that person..

Have you also factored the possibility of him and Atiku falling out or the people atiku has made certain promises to on his way to aso rock.

You don't see the future, I don't see the future... But atleast the past shows no VP has been president..

But if you believe Okowa can be the first. Then we can all agree Obi will be president

[color=royalblue]You have quoted me thrice,
but i am yet to see a name that you think can oust Okowa

Or will PDP cease to be a political party after Atiku rules? [/color]

Ellexy:
He's come out to speak to the masses countless times about the critical matters of his manifestó. He's not circumventing or doing it via proxies and spokespersons. Any of them can hire someone to write a manifesto, can they come out and defend what is there... Obi has done and still doing so till today.

Check the character of the man and see if he can be held accountable for the things in the pact. Now compare and contrast with other top candidates especially on the issue of accountability.

[color=royalblue]I have said here that in terms of character, Obi is most preferable, even though i don't trust a single soul in Nigerian politics.

But then, I am talking about the HOW. I would appreciate you read their manifesto again and look for the HOW. It is almost nonexistent

Its how i see it, my brother. 2023 is 2015 pro max[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Party loyalty is a burden! It is worse than abusive marriage...... Aisha Yesufu

[color=royalblue]God dey always give him people sign before a disaster

Na their choice to ignore am[/color]

Ellexy:
Ahh not so. We all know Nigeria is a complex equation to solve but not attempting to solve it is more of a problem than the equation itself.

Have you gone through OBI manifestó[PACT] yet? If you've not please do. Your vote counts biko.

[color=royalblue]I have

Now, put it alongside BAT and Atiku, and tell me what the difference is. Or how it is even better[/color]

[color=royalblue]Just look at Tinubu shouting PDP in his own rally.

Only to correct it and start repeating APC.

How his supporters see this man as having the same mental energy he had 15 years ago baffles me

I mean the Nigerian supporters oh, not those in the diaspora [/color]

Ellexy:
I know you'll still Obi-dient and will vote Obi.

[color=royalblue]I will not vote him, or anybody.

I am not convinced any of them have the HOW to make this country work.[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
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So why do you think the other politicians in PDP will align with an Okowa presidency.

[color=royalblue]Because if Atiku finishes 8 years, he will relinquish power to the South. The only Southerner politically positioned for that remains Okowa. Unless you have another candidate in mind, you can name him [/color]

There's a precedent showing that no VP has left to become president immediately after his boss.
Infact the only time it has happened, someone had to die.

[color=royalblue]Who made this precedent?

There is a precedent that only white people can rule the US, until one day.....
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So how is your view of the future sure and mine when I say it won't happen the one that shouldn't be considered?

[color=royalblue]You are asking me of the future now. That shows you see very good reasons with my points.

I don't know what the future knows. We are talking about the present, and i think as mere mortals, its the best sample for the experiment[/color]

Ellexy:
The Igbo masses clearly support Obi overwhelmingly. Isn't this the essence of regional politics, where your people will unanimously back one candidate. Obi is doing it, yet Soludo and other regional figures are fighting OBI. Maybe Obi should come and bow down and worship them.

[color=royalblue]Bros, let the matter rest

Abeg[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
No I can't do that for you.
I am not going to entertain your questions on this because A40 has done a good job in answering everything you can try to bring up on the issue and I agree with his points.

Anything else?

[color=royalblue]Good

Let the matter rest. I am not forcing for a discourse[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Bros be realistic.
Atiku was VP to OBJ and that didn't guarantee him the ticket.
Sambo was VP to GEJ and well him and his oga lost..

The very beautiful Osibanjo whose party zoned it to the south is VP to Buhari and yet apc have presented Tinuke to Nigerians.

So on what basis is your Okowa statement going to fly?

[color=royalblue]Atiku could not win the ticket because his own OBJ was against him

Sambo did not get to fight for a ticket because GEJ went for a 2nd term, and he lost too

PYO didn't win because he was a posterboy politically. No structure, no followership for 8 years. BAT put him there, and BAT kicked him out.

Okowa is a state governor holding his structure. If he becomes VP, he has the chance to retain and spread it. Atiku picked him himself, so Atiku will use his same influence to select him again.

Nobody in PDP can enjoy that privilege as it is, except God disposes

What's your next question?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Okowa

Please dear be realistic okay?

[color=royalblue]I already knew your next comment will be this...I did not expect any point to prove otherwise
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liveLongNprospa:
So the replies from A40 have been emotional.
Your replies are not emotional but logical.. Any one that doesn't agree with your view point are emotional .

Atleast we both agree that Obi and soludo have different goals.

[color=royalblue]I addressed what Soludo wrote there and gave my view.

I did not assume he was jealous.

Read the article and rebuff it based on what is there. Stop telling me they have an history or they don't like each other

Just read the article, and tell me the part that is a lie because of some reasons.

Can you do that for me?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
How does that guarantee the existence of friendship?

[color=royalblue]He put their history as far back as 2013, but lets ignore it

Infact, it actually guarantees the existence of enmity[/color]

Ellexy:
Soludo doesn't even care about the way things are going in Nigeria, bad leadership, corruption, failing economy, inflation etc. He's ok with the status quo. That is very myopic of him. He's still thinking of regional politics while Obi is thinking national. I don't blame him shaa, we'll see how he'll perform as governor and what his investments will amount too in years to come.

[color=royalblue]We can let the matter rest now.

I knew you wouldn't stick to politics[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Plus statements like this.. If you say we can't Critically think and we hit you back.. Please do not cry foul bro

[color=royalblue]The person that typed it; you didn't quote him. Abi him meaning different from my own?

Since yesterday, all i read is emotions. Noone was fair enough to address what Soludo said.

If you want to insult, insult. Which day you begin need permission?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Thank you.

I trust Obi nor go even reply am.
And for your statements about them being friends... Oga you don't know Obi and the man like that

[color=royalblue]Hope you are aware that if the meetings with Obi didn't occur, he won't have said it.

Hope you know that?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
PDP will field Okowa... Okowa?

[color=royalblue]After 8 years, they will field Okowa.

Wike has gradually pushed himself out, to ever be voted by a northerner.

If Atiku wins, Okowa will be the next PDP guy of the South.

You can show me proof why I am wrong, or we can just assume you're right and move on[/color]

Ellexy:
What does this even mean? Fate of the Igbos how? So the future of the Igbos in Nigeria will be determined next February?

[color=royalblue]My answer to this question will arise if only you'll stick to regional politics, like Soludo did

So, are you going to stick to discussing regional politics?

If No, let's just let it slide. The gist is already yesterday's bread. E no dey shelf again[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
I don't understand... Are you asking what is the fate of other tribes if they lose?
If the Igbos political elites cannot organise themselves to support Obi also then that's on them.
If Obi loses then he loses.
Again the man is not a regional candidate.
What Soludo is gunning for and what Obi is gunning for are two different things.

T

[color=royalblue]This may be a better answer than any back and forth

I'll take it[/color]

A40:
Hehehe. Same way APC fielded Osinbajo abi? If you want to choose naivete be my guest. Which party will parade that low vibrations Ify as candidate

[color=royalblue]Wike has no chance to contest again.

If Atiku wins, Okowa has an edge to be the flagbearer after 8 years.

Its sad, but its true[/color]