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A40:
Are you saying Obi is going to get 0 votes from the other 12 states?

What exactly is your point it has to be asked. Cos Obi will not win Kano, Katsina, Borno and Sokoto even if he converts to Islam

[color=royalblue]The percentage Tinubu will get from the SE/SS would be more than what Obi will get from the NW/NE

The winner would be decided by the highest numbers, not if he has sense, is righteous or has plans.

So telling me that Obi would get his numbers to win from just 4 zones is not realistic. Especially when the remaining 2 accounts for almost half of the voting population.

But we can hope sha....Our God is able[/color]

A40:
Who cares? What is Soludo's present contribution to the fate of Igbos in present politics. The one viable candidate your region has produced in decades you all are lining up to stone him. Good luck thinking anybody is going to take any of you serious moving forward. You people still think it's a game.

If Atiku wins what tribe do you think APC or PDP will field next?

If Tinubu wins APC will tell you it's the turn of the North. PDP will tell you they need another northerner to be able to counter APC and the Igbos will jonze till 2099

[color=royalblue]If Atiku wins in 2023, They will field a Southerner, possibly Okowa in 2031

If APC wins, they will field a northerner in 2031, possibly Shettima.

So which one favour the SE?[/color]

A40:
Forget about core North. Even for America there are core states where the other party has no hope. The law didn't say anything about the candidate getting 25% in all 36 states.

GEJ did not win core North either. Obi can get the numbers he needs from SE/SS/SW and Middle Belt.

[color=royalblue]SE - 5 states
SS - 6 states
SW - 6 states
NC - 7 states

These are 24 states in total. So Obi would get the numbers he needs to win Nigeria's elections from just 24 states, without the rest 12 states providing almost 45% of the voter population?

Bros....[/color]

OasisX:
I believe he doesn't wanna use force like Hope is doing in Imo State. He's open for Dialogue and has been engaging Religious Leaders, Royal Fathers and Community Leaders to wade in.

I know if it fails to work after 2023 Election, he's gonna seek support of next President to fight the Insecurity. PMB is hated in the East, Anambrans don't want Crocs to smile at them again, hence he needs to be cautious with his decision.

He believes if Nnamdi Kanu is released, Security Situation will get back to normal. I expect next President to release Nnamdi Kanu for sake of peace in the East.

[color=royalblue]Mtcheeeeew

All these ones na story.

Guns have entered the wrong hands, so releasing Kanu is already late. It won't change anything

Part of his elected team was beheaded and till today, no arrest, no prosecution. Wike wiped out IPOB from Rivers, and till today, no noise from them

Soludo does not have the balls to wipe insecurity out of the SE. I hope he finishes his tenure and leaves, so we can see road. [/color]

A40:
Same as Tinubu's chances of winning SE and SS. What is your actual point?

Registered voters? You mean the same neck of the woods where we are seeing underaged and multiple registered voters korokoro

[color=royalblue]My point is that Tinubu's party have senators, HOA members, NASS members and even Governors in the SE and SS to help him get the stipulated 25% required by the law.

He may not hope to win everywhere, but he would get his 25%.

Now how will Obi get it in Zamfara, Kebbi, Sokoto, Katsina, Gombe, Borno? Who will help him drive that, either through campaigns, or vote buying sef?

We need to realistic with some of our situations,
bros. [/color]

A40:
I'm not sounding emotional. You're being tacit instead of being upfront with your sentiments. I am calling B.S on that

Sit down and ask yourself if you were Peter Obi why you would want to be on the same side with Soludo.

Why should I hire a trainer that tells me I cannot win a fight? That does not make sense to any normal person

Who said anything about him kneeling to beg Obi? Bottomline he approached Obi to run under APGA yes or no? Whether he offered MouthAction and Obi declined I don't know I don't care. He should channel this same energy being used to malign Obi and Obidients to face his Umeadi or fvckever he calls himself

If Obi loses he loses. Heaven will not fall. He's not like those that talked about how the blood of baboon and dogs will flow.

[color=royalblue]I know

So what is the fate of the Igbos in politics?
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OasisX:
20 years Masterplan bro, and that's why I said he should align with ruling party in 2023.

Those modafuckas can be flushed out if FG is sincerely ready and have full backing of State Governor and Community Leaders.

[color=royalblue]Show me one prosecution done on insecurity since Soludo came?

What effort has he made, that we can see the impact?

He should wait for FG. They are coming to help him[/color]

A40:
I'm really not sure Soludo knows what time it is.

What does pointing lapses in Obi's tenure that elapsed almost 9 years ago prove or show? Do you see other regional political leaders doing this?

Read what you wrote again and tell me how any of this drivel Soludo wrote will make any sense to anyone with a Presidential ambition. What's his incentive to work with Soludo on anything? Who works with somebody that tells you you cannot accomplish a task. Guy try and reason nauuu.

If you be opp say so and don't disguise. If you were a boxer will you hire a trainer that tells you you cannot win a fight?

You're watching how politics is playing out in present Nigeria and you're still yarnin many many. The fate of Igbo will go back to what it always is because Nigeria has no plan for you.

For once you have brought out a candidate that has been accepted outside of your region. If you guys don't throw your weight behind a two time governor that was a runner up VP candidate as well then I'm sorry Miss Jackson. No dodgy APGA alliance will improve your lot either, not with an opp like Soludo involved

[color=royalblue]What are Obi's chances of winning in the NE and NW?

Should i bring the number of registered voters there, so you can tell me how many Obi will have in each state?[/color]

OasisX:
I agree with you. I'll keep saying it, Anambra have great Potentials. Anambra can be as developed as Lagos in 2Oyrs time if well planned.

Align with a ruling party in 2023, lobby to get Onitsha River dredged and fully develop the Port with state of art equipment via PPP.

Connect the Port to Airport via Railway if possible, since the Airport also is a Cargo Airport. Create free zone in-between Onitsha and Awka. Turn Nnewi to an Industrial City. Upgrade Awka to smart/Leisure City and fully change the face of Onitsha to commercial hub of the State.

I really have interest in the Leadership of Soludo. I hope he's gonna come up with a Masterplan and I pray APGA keep winning so that the Plans will be accomplished.

[color=royalblue]Story Story.....Story

Which investor will sink his money in a place covered with insecurity?

Person never fit keep Anambra safe, na commercial hub and smart city una dey talk[/color]

A40:
We want him to face Umeadi. Market him and leave Obi alone. I don't recall one time Obi had ever said anything about Soludo. So why is he behaving like a poosie. He knows well and good Obi has nothing to do with whatever online attacks he might be getting

Is Obi the only man running? Shebi Umeadi dey there? If Obi cannot win can't Soludo push Umeadi again in 2027? Must Obi be a part of this push? I don't understand

[color=royalblue]You are sounding emotional, bros.

They are friends, and they have known themselves better and longer than you've known Obi.

He responded to Obidients in that article. He is telling them all that has transpired, his opinion and his hopes.

I did not see where he was kneeling to beg Obi. His candidate is Umeadi, an Igbo man.

He is only concerned about how you guys will handle it if Obi loses. Something you guys don't want to talk about or imagine[/color]

TrebleChamp:
I don't want APC or PDP to win in 2023, Obi is my candidate just like Fela Durotoye was my Candidate in 2019. You keep shouting structure as if it is structure that will vote, people will vote candidate of their choice and the one with the highest vote wins. The party that won election in Lesotho did not have any structure, yet won the Presidential Election cos the people voted not structure.

[color=royalblue]Lesotho population is 2.2 million people

1.5 million registered to vote. Thats almost 75% of the population

Nigeria is above 200 million, and only 93.5 million are registered. Thats almost 50%

Using Lesotho stats may be deceiving, my brother. But with God, all things are possible[/color]

A40:
Organized in what sense? APGA has only ever governed one state which is Anambra? So what rule dictates that this same APGA must be the party to drive this bargaining force.

Since he has appointed himself bargainer in chief. Why isn't he pushing the APGA presidential candidate and marketing him as a driver of this desired change.

So you're saying Obi should have failed under Soludo's backing rather than fail on his own?

Soludo is the opps. Obi knows too that is why he did not get into any involvement with him

[color=royalblue]I really am confused as to what Obidients want

Before any primary was done, Soludo approached Obi and told him to leave PDP so they can build APGA for the future. Obi refused and said PDP is the way.

The same man went on to join LP

Now, Soludo stated that he is not supporting Obi in this election, but his party's candidate, Umeadi.

The same Obidients are saying he is demarketing Obi and he is jealous.

He has wished Obi well. Hopefully Obi wins

But nobody has answered his question; If Obi loses, what is the fate of Igbos in regional politics?[/color]

During our meeting, I reminded him of my proposal to him to come and contest under APGA. More importantly, I told him (possibly to his surprise) that I did not make the proposal in the belief that he will win in 2023 but that it would give us the opportunity to get our people organized as a bargaining force, with him leading the effort

[color=royalblue]A40, here it is.[/color]

obainojazz:
Instead of criticising Soludo, critically think about what he said… Then we can move forward

He knows about Obi better than most people that haven’t even lived in Anambra supporting him.

[color=royalblue]I wonder why they can't do that for a minute.

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A40:
The same Obi you didn't believe performed as governor you're now saying you courted him to be APGA Presidential candidate. So which do we believe now?

You cannot see a man talking from both sides of his ass?

Road network that even his worst haters agree that he fixed during his time na him Soludo dey yarn another thing.

He was not a good governor but you believed he will make a fitting presidential candidate. Which kin hypocrisy be that?

You're not a believer of his chances to win now as an LP candidate so why did you try to recruit him to APGA? What changes by joining APGA? His fugazi support?

He doesn't believe Obi will win fine. Same way 98% of people that play the Powerball lottery don't believe they will win but they still buy a ticket just in case

There isn't one objective thing Soludo said in that article. Whatever unresolved beef he has with Obi let him call him and address him as a man instead of this vajayjay tactics of using "Obidients" who are faceless by the way to speak on how he really feels about Peter Obi.

[color=royalblue]You are mixing governance with politics and that was clearly separated in that article.

He showed the lapses in Obi's tenure. Thats governance

He wants an Igbo presidency to happen. Thats politics.

He said he asked Obi to join APGA not to win 2023, but to build a force for an Igbo presidency in the future. Its stated clearly in that article. Why are you asking the bolded?

I am yet to see the abomination he said.

Have you ever asked yourself that if Obi loses, what is the fate of the Igbos in regional politics?[/color]

Donjazet2:
We're saying the same thing.

Regional politics shouldn't be a thing. Good governance should be the utmost concern and priority for all Nigerians.

When we talk about regional politics, we automatically reduce politics to a game, a game for the elites even as we've seen how terrible it has been for all of us..

Left to me, whether imo had a governor of another party, and Anambra had a governor of another party, as far as they are both good and conscientious leaders, we shouldn't have a problem.

That's why the Obi supporters are drunk on idealism. They dare to dream that they can elevate this underdog to the apex of leadership. They are using Obi as medium to seize leadership. To say that they won't be taken foe granted anymore and these Obidients are from all parts, all regions, all denominations. All these things are secondary factors cast aside. All united by the burning desire to see a Nigeria that works.

[color=royalblue]I understand you

But like i said, i am talking about regional politics. That is what Soludo's article is all about. [/color]

Ellexy:
First of all Soludo don't need to endorse anybody, he just needs to attack someone and we've seen who he's been attacking. As for Apga, it's seen as an Igbo party and therefore doesn't have that national appeal, besides it's only stronghold is Anambra and that's because of some loyalty to Ojukwu. Other states in the East don't give 2 fvcks about that party.

Igbos no dey Apc yet Imo State, Ebonyi state are Apc states. The likes of OUK, Rochas, Amaechi etc are not Igbos too?

In PDP you have Enugu and Abia states, Ihiedioha haa been following Atiku everywhere like Sanwolu has been following BAT and others as well.

I see a clear agenda in Soludo's piece. You said the piece spoke to your soul. No need for further back and forth as we can't reach a compromise on this.

[color=royalblue]Igbos are in PDP, and Atiku didn't consider the SE for VP, even though the SS just finished presidency?

Igbos are in APC, and not even one came third in the primaries. Umahi didn't get 2% of BAT votes?

Don't make me laugh abeg.

Soludo knows APGA has no appeal, and he is asking Obi, that APGA be made to come back. Or you expect him to beg Ikedioha, Chiboy and the rest that have lived in PDP since 99?

You just don't want to hear what he said. And that's okay. Sometimes, i dont want to hear something, not because it isnt true, but it does not sit well with my hopes and beliefs

If you see another agenda in it, it has to be from an Igbo man, because Soludo specifically said he is supporting an Igbo man[/color]

Donjazet2:
You arw falling into their trap!!! You are looking at this election from a regional point of view which is what every obidient is fighting against.

Enough of the regional politics!!! Who e epp??
We want a president that will make the whole Nigeria work. Not just a particular region, but every single region of Nigeria.

Tinubu used Lagos money to build the acn and made it a regional party, did this succeed in helping the common man I'm Yoruba land??
What is the difference between Oyo and abia or imo and ekiti? No be the same poor quality of life all of them dey suffer??

No be every body dey buy fuel every week? No be everybody dey suffer the bad roads all over Nigeria? No be everybody dey suffer the highest rate of inflation?

Is it not kastina, buharis home town that is riddled with bandits, kidnappers and violent crime? I think we need to stop thinking about regional politics. It's useless. The poverty of the north will show you how useless it is. Northerners have held power for Soo long yet their region is the very worst in everything. Like every single thing. Every single area of governance, the north falls behind. Let's be wise.

[color=royalblue]I am talking about regional politics, not governance.

I can confidently differentiate both, but this discourse is on regional politics. [/color]

Segedinho:
There was a live video of soludo eulogising Obi's works as a gov

[color=royalblue]This is what Soludo said in the debate.

"Anambra state had a poverty rate of 53% under Peter Obi, to 14% under Willie Obiano

Search for the link and listen again.

How is he eulogising Obi here?[/color]

Ellexy:
On a lighter note, he said he knows and Obi knows he can't win yet he prayed for him to win. Lol

I don't see anything as competiton BTW, but what is good for the goose should also be good for the gander abi na how dem talk am...

Bottom line, Soludo just openly de-campaigned, de-marketed and maligned Peter Obi and you know what that means yet he's hypocritically advocating for Igbo presidency. This is the agenda.

Have you seen the political class from the North openly do so to Kwankwaso or the West to Tinubu despite their differences?

Nothing just happens especially in this election season Izzou, that article from Soludo was a calculated and careful political message to a demographic.

[color=royalblue]If Soludo demarketed Obi, who did he promote in the article then?

The man is just saying what we don't want to hear or accept, when it comes to regional politics.

Have you ever considered that Obi may lose? So what happens to the Igbo presidency after 2023?

APC, Igbos no dey
PDP, Igbos don comot.

The man asked Obi to come back to APGA and build it as an Igbo bargaining chip. How can this be an agenda?

If he had said Obi should support BAT or Atiku, i would understand the agenda, but he himself, said he's supporting a man that will lose; Umeadi

Omo...I no know how to explain again sef[/color]

A40:
Let's keep it funky. Soludo does not give a fuq about no APGA Presidential candidate.

How do I know? Cos today is the first time I'm hearing APGA have a candidate

So if not for this beef we wouldn't know what an Umeadi is

[color=royalblue]Soludo said sometime this year, he pleaded with Obi to come back to APGA and become their candidate. Obi declined that he would be with PDP. The next thing is he decamped and went to LP.

Don't just pick the part you hope to hear. I hope you read it objectively

The man stated that he does not believe APGA will win, but he must support his party. What is wrong with that?

That guy may not like Obi, but this article is very objective to anybody that reads it without an iota of bias.

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pocohantas:
Soup left
Swallow right…

I would be very annoyed if I am served this way.

[color=royalblue]Wait Wait Wait

So, you guys take note of directions of soup and swallow?

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Ellexy:
Ofcourse I don't the curse people just because we have divergent views and opinions on issues. Obi is not going to win according to Soludo but had he joined Apga maybe he would have won, just maybe.

You're also okay how he glaringly referred to Peter Obi as Hitler in the making. Let me ask again, what are Obidients doing right now that Apc and BMC didn't do in higher levels back in 2014/2015?

I really don't know what Peter did to the Igbo political elite. First Ihiedioha called them saboteurs, now Soludo Nazi's. History will remember when the time comes.

[color=royalblue]Firstly, it may be a competition for you; Because APC did it in 2015, it is right to do it in 2022...But it's not the same for Soludo.

Soludo said it as it is. The investment today is worth next to nothing. I have not seen one single factcheck to prove that wrong. But i have seen people cursing him, calling his son a gay, and say all manner of hurtful words against him

I have said it before; The fact that Obi invested the money is commendable. He could have siphoned it. But he put it in the name of ANSG. But it has gone south....I don't see why the man should be stoned for saying what it is.

Soludo talked about regional politics. He did not ask Igbos to vote BAT or Atiku; something Chiboy is saying from all sides of his mouth. He asked them to form their own party. He asked them to grow it so it can be a chip for negotiation in the future

Soludo also said he has lost hope of an Igbo presidency in 2023, but rather, Igbos should negotiate a deal with whoever wins and he listed the demands there.

In all he wished Obi well, and prayed him or Umeadi wins, and hopes he comes back to APGA that made him

Please, what is the agenda there?
What is wrong in all what he said?[/color]

Segedinho:
stop ranting..


soludo said Poverty reduced under Obi by some %

[color=royalblue]You obviously didn't read the article.

Or maybe you have gone to verify sha, like Soludo said [/color]

Roland17:
Izzou, you see what I mean? This is in 1 day! He doesn't need this distraction. This is a rookie mistake he is making.

https://www.nairaland.com/7433382/soludo-under-peter-obi-poverty

https://www.nairaland.com/7433182/soludo-peter-obi-knows-he

https://www.nairaland.com/7433155/gunmen-threaten-force-soludo-resign

[color=royalblue]It's expected, but not a distraction

The security issue is why i don't rate Soludo, and hopes he gets out of there soon. It has been going on even before now, so this article doesn't change anything.

He is not distracted by anything. 3 years is still a lot of time to perform

Nwere ndidi, Agu[/color]

Ellexy:
smh

[color=royalblue]You can help me counter some of his points.

All these attempts to make people support an opinion or agenda makes here tiring, and no different from the politics section where someone is cursed for being against, instead of "for"

Rather than shaking your head to look smart, school me on why Soludo's points don't hold water.

I thank God you don't use curse words. At least, i can write this comment in peace[/color]

Ellexy:
Man tagged Igbos as Nazi's and it spoke to your soul

[color=royalblue]That could be your understanding. It's not a crime.

He portrayed reality as it should be; Devoid of agenda or lying.

If you see Nazi there, its okay. That's how yoi see it[/color]

Roland17:
If I am not mistaken, the original response was to supporters of PO (Obidients) and not PO. I don't think I read anywhere where he implied he has a problem with PO or his ambition, consequently this shouldn't have happened. It is the fact that he is expending way too much time and energy in engaging these guys on "setting records straight" is what I am bothered by. Uncle Chukwuma knows how to get a hold of PO and same goes for PO if needed.

[color=royalblue]He did throw some jabs to Obi concerning SABMiller and the poverty index.

That was where i meant that Obi may not even respond

As for him losing in the next election, i doubt.

Structures matter in an election. APGA get Anambra[/color]

raumdeuter:
I am reading the Soludo interview and he is spitting the exact same thing I have said on this thread and many people without sentiments will agree

Some below

[color=royalblue]Very true.

I guess Atiku has abandoned the South sef. He has begun his poaching practicals in the North.[/color]

Roland17:
As a politician you control what you can control and this isn't one of them. This response isn't going to change anything, if anything, look for more divisive rhetoric from bad agents. As a Governor/ elected official, you are open to all kinds of mess but you have to be strategic/ measured in how you handle them and this is what Asiwaju is doing. You think Asiwaju doesn't see the insults or name callings?

There is a reason he acknowledged many people advised him to ignore, those people know this isn't going to end well. Those who are acting in bad faith don't care about records being set, it has no place in minds of illogical thinkers if they are bent on pulling you through the gutters of mediocrity.

This response has only weaponized bad agents and this is not what Soludo needs at this time. Anambra State has more pressing issues than setting records straight with anyone out there. Also, considering how sensitive and volatile the situation is right now, he should have just given a simple answer to questions regarding Obi when he was interviewed.

[color=royalblue]I really don't think it would divide anything

Soludo has made it clear that he's pro-igbo presidency. He has also made it clear that he will support APGA's candidate, which is Umeadi.

He has made it clear that he won't decamp and he wants APGA to be a regional party. He said he hopes Obi even comes back to build it again.

The man gave his own side of the story and his opinion, devoid of any agenda.

I expect silence from any agendaic agent. I doubt Obi would respond to this[/color]

[color=royalblue]Soludo said Obi is playing a game

And he said the game is the reason he did not return to APGA

Seùn Okinbaloye, i know you're on this thread.

Abeg help me ask Soludo at the next virtual interview.

Abeg[/color]

raumdeuter:
I was a beneficiary of Soludos CBN policy and I always rated him

There is a difference between a Professor of Economics and a roadside trader when it comes to policy

I wish Anambra under him succeed. I hope to see him at the Federal level in the future

[color=royalblue]When I and Larride was telling you that the bar for presidency needs to be raised, you declined

Now, you're seeing the difference between a Professor and a Trader


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