jmoore:

Science cannot explain God because science only works in the physical realm.

Atheists cannot define God because they do not know who God is. You cannot define what you don't know!!!!

You are forgeting that God isn't a name, it's a noun. It was capitalised by Christians and other revealed religions to distinguish their god from older pagan ones.

jmoore:

Richard Dawkins believe his descendants are apes therefore he is a son of an ape. why should I give such a man an audience to hear what he have to say?

Bros, Richard Dawkins is one of the most inteligent human being alive today. You can't deny that fact, you may not agree with him of course but many including me consider him a hero. Read any of his books I am sure it will open your mind.

thehomer:

Look it up you dullard in preparation for the next time you wish to use the word.

What's with the hostility ? Do you have any problem with the word "Delusion" or with me ? And just incase you didnt notice, that post was not addressed to you so what your problem

jmoore:
No need debating on this, the conclusion like I always say we be reached when we all meet death.

"Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one" Richard Dawkins.

D sage:

Bros,i need to,because if i kept mute/refuse to reply some of the questions throwed at me on this thread,i will definitely look like a fool to atheists.

Ok my brother, fire dey go!!!

D sage:

Dont you think every question on this forum need to be elaborate? And if you're unable to contribute anymore,then why cant you be reading posts and learn.

You told Christians to stop arguing with Atheists yet you have been doing just that for many days now. And oh! I have been reading but not learning anything new.

thehomer:

Shut up there. You better look up what a delusion is before you attempt to apply that label to others.

Sorry sir! So what is delusion? Teach me, as$hole!

antartica:

You probably don't have woman,you dont self-service,meanwhile you are bursting with juices.The only other way you can let it out is in the "dream",while asleep.

When you are sleeping the brain is calmly awake,the brain cannot sleep and it sometimes subconsciously tune into what bothers you in real life and you sometimes find your self acting it out,even when you are suppose to be sleeping.

Find yourself a lively bytch man,that will give to you when you want it.

Beautiful!! This is exactly what I was going to say, but I couldn't have phrased it better. Sadly the person and some posters here see it carnal as sombody already said.
The truth is, it is biology. If you deprive yourself sex your body and mind will start screaming. Bear in mind that every man does not have the same sex drive or testosterone. You need to let some steam out man! Don't just atribute it to another spiritual attack nonesense.

Jeezz! Are you guys still on it ? Dsage, you should practice what you preach! You told Christians to stop debating with Atheist and here you are firing away with everybody.
People, its better to leave this guy in his delusion. He is confused.

Lol! Almost everybody in my family knows I am an Atheist so nobody asks me. However, last New Year eve I was asked to pray and I just kept quiet until some else started praying lol! I am no longer in the closet even though my family are very religious.

2good:

Remember your black ancestors sold your ancestors to the Europeans.

No they did not.

You people should please leave Buhari alone, he has tried already for Nigeria. What has IBB done to move Nigeria forward since leaving office ? Yet nobody is attacking him. Why can't GEJ appoint him or Attiku who actually made the threat.

D sage:

Atheists and their wonderful questions.Still very cheap reason to denied his existence.

Yes because he was a creator.

It's posible because there were so few people living in a very small community then.

Yes,he use to test his people in order to know the genuinty/level of their faith.

Yes,because he gave us free will.

It's possible,even ordinary magicians can do that.

Yes some powerful people does it in the olding days.

I read it in the bible.

Cheap reason Well it might be cheap to you but for people with higher IQ its not. See that's the difference you fundies and atheists. You believe everything you read in the bible just because it says its the word of god while we diligently examine and question every extraordinary claims made in the bible. You accept every claim on faith even when your reason and common sense is screaming back at you while we listen and aply these natural gifts.

This is the age of reason, you should start making use of yours. The bible is the work of men (primitive men). It contains a lot of errors, contradictions and absurdities. It cannot be an ispiration of any god.

D sage:

I'll keep saying it,not every pastors/MOG are corrupt,so stop generalizn.

Man,i believes absolutely in bible but reject it when someone who claim to be a pastor try to manipulate/misinterprete it.

Come on man! Are you telling me that you believe absolutely that god created the Univers and its inhabitants in 6 days ?

Are you telling me you believe that gods after being please with his creation, just few generations later was angry, disapointed and regreted he created man. Then went on to flood the whole earth, killing almost everything ?

Are you telling me you believe that because Adam ate a fruit which god placed just to test him the whole of mankind is punished by the same God who allowed Satan to decive him ?

Are you telling me you believe that God can actually wrestle with a man and yet be unable to defeat that man ?

Are you telling me you believe some body can part a sea just by know his wlking stick on a stone ?

Are you telling me you believe someone can walk on water ?

Are you telling me you believe a man can just be taken up to heaven, I mean without dying by charriots ?

Come on!!!!

Oro-Agba:

You asked wether it is in the nature of man to behave beyond its own character. How much do you know about the nature of man? I put it to you that the real nature of man is incorruptible and not supposed to die until sin came in through adam (man was initially designed to live forever). However scientifically i know you are aware that it is in the nature of man to self-heal, that is why some can get healed of minor malaria, cough etc over time without using drugs by the action of the body's natural defence system (antibodies/antigens). The purpose of drugs most times is to activate/energise these antigens/antibodies to counter the intruding parasites.another self-healing mechanism of the body can be observed in the formation of clots on wounds to prevent further bleeding.
However even though the body has a natural healing process, do you think the body unaided can self-heal from typhoid, cancer, aids without use of drugs? The answer is YES, but the fact is that the rate at which these diseases destroy the body is greater than the rate at which the body's natural defense mechanism can withstand, hence you may be dead b/4 the body is able to self heal and that is why drugs are used to help the body's existing defence d

Chai! The above post goes to show how deluded you are. Somethings simply cannot be defended, so stop trying to defend ressurecting dead bodies, it makes you sound very foolish.

The above illustration is just a cheap attempt. Self healing is not the same thing as regenerating dead limbs. For example, even though the body self-heals have you ever seen an amputated limb regenerating again? Never! Because it against the laws of nature so is a dead body coming back to life.

@ Oro Agba,

I can see that you are back, did you happen to check on the websites I gave you...? I am sure you didn't. Typical!

D sage:

Point of correction,the questions we should be asking some of our fake pastors/leaders and corrupt MOG.We dont need to ask ourselves anything because,we believe in what we are doing.Please,stop generalizn.

Actually I have every reason to generalize, of course you can object but tell me who your pastor is and then tell me how he is signicantly deferent from the fake and corrupt pastors/MOG according to you. I guarantee you there is none whatsoever, all you have again is faith and confidence in that particular MOG.

You don't need to ask yourselves question I think you do. Are you telling me you believe absolutely in everything the bible says? Mind you, for you to be a Christian you must believe and accept the bible as the infallible word of God. Is that your position

D sage:

what're you saying Man,many questions has been asked here by the religions people in which you were unable to provide the answered.Why're you saying,we were afraid of asking you questions when we actually keep asking in every threads.

You may be right,if you says,some christains feared of criticizing their fake pastors but that doesnt mean we were doing the same ok.

By questions I didn't mean the type of stupid questions Christians ask atheists here on Nairaland. I mean the questions you should be asking your leaders and the so called MOG concerning your beliefs and the biblical errancies. Most of all the questions you should be asking yourselves.

D sage:
2.many of them are christains before,so they had a strong reason to become atheists.

3.they understood bible more than many of our christains brothen,infact one cant be an atheist without any religion background.

CEHCK!!! Of course most atheist were Christians or Muslims before becoming an atheist. Also you don't just call yourself an atheist, it takes some level of reasoning and questions (unanswered of course) to come to the conclusion that god does not really exist. And that reasoning leads us to actually examine the bible or koran, thereby coming to that logical conclusion.

Therefore the problem with Christianity and other revealed religions is their inabilty or should I say fear of asking questions. They simply chose to swallow everything their bible and pastor says hook line and sinker. And then blame it on FAITH!

Thank god I am an Atheist!

D sage:
3.There is the soul,infact it's the essential/efficient cause of the body.Without it,there cannot be a living,the soul/spirit influence us in one way or the other.

Where is your proof for this assertion ? There is a strong debate ongoing concerning the existence of Soul. Assertions like this needs back-up, not just based on intuition which has been shown to unreliable.

thehomer:

The problem is that the deist God is of no consequence and is thus uninteresting.

Exactly! Also irrelivant and unnecessary if I may add.

Zediccus: Ain't here to convert atheists into believers, but i have something to say. What if a believer dies and gets to find out there is no God, does he have anything to loose ? And what if an atheist dies and finds out there is a God, what becomes of him ? At least atheist believe they will someday day.

If I die today and find out that the god of the bible really exist then I would really be glad that I didnt spend most of my life praising and worshiping such a god.

Logic Mind:

i can't sell what i don't have.

davidylan:

Read the above and weep. Obviously you live in delusion



I take it to mean you really know nothing about this subject that you bandy about. Good idea to shut about it next time.

@davidylan,

Please STFU, your condescending attitude is deplorable. If you have nothing productive to contribute then just go away and stop being such an as$ hole here.

Martian:

Patience. The battle has yet to be won in the "spiritual realm" but the "hosts of heaven" are waging war against the "forces of darkness".

Where is the spiritual realm?

It lies between middle earth and heaven.

Lol!!! Nice one.

I am really worried now that I have not received my order by now. Something seems to be wrong, my first order from the same seller on Ebay was smooth but this one is becoming a problem, no update at all.

Please this is my Order ID no. CA1203190004, can you check on it and let me know what exactly is holding it and when exactly I will get it.

Martian:

I know what you mean. There's nothing like people without spiritual understanding trying to read holy books. They just make a mess of it. Thank baby Jesus though, you have the spirits of translation and transliteration, so the bible's spiritual meaning is apparent to you and I,

Lol! This guy is unbelievable, I don't blame him though, he has nothing else to offer except the stereotypical "you lack spiritual understanding" Instead of some quiet and sencere introspection and at least basic scepticism to his faith and the so called holy book, he is here oozing foolishness.

Quintessential christian indeed.

FXKing2012:

I cant remember the last time I read/heard this much gibberish, NL is indeed a place to be when you need to laugh.

What exactly is gebberish in the above post. You are really the biggest fool of them all. Anybody who read all of your post here espacialy your $tupid challange will agree with me.

Your problem is cognitive disonance, you simply refuse to comprehend what you are reading. Everything in Wirinet's post is exactly what the bible depicts and everybody who has really read the bible knows that. Stop decieving yourself.

snthesis:
basically u are saying God doesnt exist because you do not believe what was written in the bible>>>> hmmm! i think i just found a root cause for Atheism- d lack of believe in "religious books"

Tadaaaaa!!!!!! I give you 4/10 for coming to this conclusion at least. Now I urge you to go study your said religious book sceptically and maybe, just maybe you will earn the remaining 6 marks.

Tomorrow some of these Almajiries will start joustling for federal jod with a Southner with Bsc. In the name of Federal character. Nigeria! SMH

D sage: Harakiri,i quite agree with you that despite be an highly religions nation we are still progressing from bad to worst&there were still a corruptn everywere.

The prayer i was talking about is the one says by an individuals in relation to their personal problems.Now,in your own personal perspective,how do you think our prayers were answered.

Is it by our personal believes in prayer,by a true living God or by accident?Because as an individual(theist)our prayers solved many problem we are facing for us.

Sir, Have you visited any General or Othorpedic Hospital recently ? You should try and do so and you will see that prayer doesn't work.

If you can sincerely come back here and tell me that those patients, some having stayed there for months and years have no "mustard seed" faith for god to answer their prayers then you are a demented fellow.

Forget those fabricated testimonies you hear at church. They are just hoaxes. Go to hospitals, you will see real human suffering and then you will wonder where the hell god is.

Da-unashamed:

your intelligence and nice manner of addressing issues just earned you my respect. Thank you
To our discussion, He (GOD) knew what was going to happen. man, been an imperfect being compared to His Creator who is the only perfect being, and carrying only a minute percent of His makers spirit, have a great tendency to fail (to use his free will wrongly) or succeed (use it rightly) in his great test. The Bible told us he (The first man) was told to eat any fruit of all the trees in the garden except for one. God knew they were going to fail and He had already made a plan for their salvation even before they failed. HE had already seen everything. And point of correction my bro, God didn't create hell for man, nah! He created it for the fallen angels who rebelled against Him, but they swore never to go burn alone, that's why they are using every means to trick man into disobey ing God too so man can end up there with them.

My brother, your explanation is not satisfactory at all. Infact this question is one of the reason (including the fact that prayer doesn't work) I started doubting gods existence before becoming an Apatheist.

According to you god knew that man will because we are an imperfect being. Firstly how can something so imperfect come from something so perfect ? I god is so perfect and powerfull then why didn't he make his creation perfect ?

Also if god is omniscient that means he knows everything, past present and future. That means he know already that man will fail the test so why test him at all. I mean if you are a father of a 1 year old boy would you leave a sharp object like a knife or a razor near that child and tell him not to touch it. Why did god put that tree in that garden, was it necessary to test them knowing they were like children that don't even know they were nakd. Also where was god when satan was tempting then.

You should really be asking questions and not defending god because you will never make any sense. Unless god is not omnipotent none of this questions can be answered. The only reasonable conclusion is that god did not see this coming and that means he is not all-knowing.

Anyway, I am just making this analogy for the sake of this conversation. I will need a really solid proof to conveince me that all these stories are not fables.