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DeepSight:
Lol.

Good jokes, but your good humour scratches nothing off the substance at play.
I have seen it before, the "resort to comedy" approach to refuting substance.

No dice gents.

analice107:
You managed to convinced them that what?

PastorAIO:
That one na revised standard version.

My own King John's Revised version says: ..... 'whosoever believeth in the salad and eateth of it shall have everlasting flatulence'.

My own is from the original parchments believed to have been written by the hand of the apostle himself so favour it.

hahn:
Ignore that dude. He never makes any sense

PastorAIO:
The pot said something to the kettle, that conversation of theirs springs to mind.

analice107:
Its sad how you don't see how illogical you sound, really its sad. I will leave you to your schemes.

analice107:
The most illogical Logicboy. i tire how u fit dey think like small pikin like dis oo.

Joshthefirst:
We all find others blockheads in certain areas. Some people are found to be blockheads in almost all areas. (You should know I'm talking about you).

I don't care what anyone's opinion of me is much, especially yours. (I like marsman shaa). I already know DS is deist, and I pray he becomes Christian too.

Maybe you need another false sabbatical from here and a new moniker. Be sure to announce yourself as loftily as you normally do.

Joshthefirst:
Don't waste time going back and forth with logicboy sir.

You have proved your point astutely to those who can read and comprehend english. Especially with this:






Thank you very much deepsight.
God's self existence is only difficult to grasp by those who choose to be blockheads and refuse to apply themselves to logical reasoning.

To me, the fact of his self existent may not be completely understood, but it is the destiny of my logical thinking, and a fact of reality based on the nature of creation itself.

DeepSight:
You are funny:



How terribly odd. "People" refers to something that exists. To persons. It is beyond me how you can sleep well arguing that there can be people who do not exist.

And then to use ghost workers as an example of "people that do not exist" - especially in the context of the preceding contentions.

"Ghost-workers" are not people in any sense.



Life after the transition of a person from his physical body is a self evident fact to anyone conscious enough to even be aware of himself and his daily existence within this body.

However the question of life after death still is not even necessary here as in either event we are speaking of a person who existed on this material plane: even for the doubters who say that life ends at death: one may revert to the effect that even the physical remains continue in the material cycle of life - that would rest the more subtle meanings of the OP which elude you.

I believe the truth is that your words of anger stem from your recognition of how ludicrously out of place your "ghost workers" example was, when you first attempted to give examples of the existence of persons that could "not exist."

I am not responsible for your incomplete reasoning processes or the paucity of thought within your mind.

Born2Freak:
Egbon, you dey vex ni!

DeepSight:
For a second, I was willing to engage, but reading the above, that would just amount to insulting myself.
I will only place the worlds in bold for your introspection - if you are capable of same.

DeepSight:
The simple answer is no - because a Ghost worker was never a person at all.



The simple answer is yes: and this is to be contrasted with a ghost worker who never lived or died at all and so simply never existed. A dead person does exist exactly because it is a person and not a sack of meat.



Don't worry, in writing what I wrote, I knew very well that it would fly over the heads of the likes of yourself and AIO. In your case because of a certain density of wit, but in his case simply on account with an obsession with chasing his tail.

To help you: what I wrote is really directed at the divine quality of self-existence: which is what the OP is really hinting at, even if clumsily so.

TomHagen:
Reductio ad Absurdum. I thought you lot claimed to be logical. Perhaps you do not know there are scientific methods of manipulating the weather, that is the first thing self-acclaimed logicians resort to instead of this indignation that you feign. Is this an attempt at masking ignorance?

Weah96:
Ask Kingebukasblog to show you the group of motor park touts in his area who happen to all be atheists. Maybe they got kicked out of the Oxford. Bwahahahaha.

DeepSight:
This is rather odd.

Is it really possible for a person to "not exist"?

When one says that "a person can either exist or not exist" - this suggests that you may have persons that exist and persons that do not exist.

Is this not a very self evidently false thought construction?

For is there any such thing as a "person" that does "not exist"?

It is a flat out contradiction in terms therefore to say that "a person can either exist or not exist" - thus suggesting two alternate possible types of persons: those that exist and those that do not exist!

Evidently therefore, the correct thing to say would be - "Persons exist" - or - "a person exists" - period.

@ OP: Does this build a thread of reasoning somewhere in what you are trying to say regarding the self existent nature of God?

PS - You rightly should not worry too much about the futilist AIO who starts nowhere and goes nowhere: as a matter of fact, he has propounded quite exactly what your OP says in the past, in simply different words.

UyiIredia:
It's like you have comprehension problems. If my post is nonsense then show it, and create time to do so.

UyiIredia:
I'm wondering why atheists and other evolutionists aren't responding to my post. Perhaps they can't rebut it.

KingEbukasBlog:
The ones proposing a theory for eternal universe stole the idea from religion/theism

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, especially to the bolded, just move on, I'm not here to for spurious talk.

Rucheen:
science without religion is lame., religion without science is blind..
A Lincoln

LaClicKLaBenDin:
This is what the book of 1st Timothy 6:20 says (NKJV); Timothy, keep safe what has been entrusted to your care. Avoid the profane talk and foolish arguments of what someone people wrongly call "knowledge".

The KJV Bible translates it thus; O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called.

Going by the above scripture, it's evident that these kind of arguments based on science and logical reasoning or whatever, has been in existence, even when man had limited knowledge about science.

Judging from the above, it will be expedient to say that, scientific proof isn't why atheists are against God, they're just against God, except of course someone wants to tell me that science at the time of writing the above scripture was already advanced enough to challenge the Bible, just like science is doing today.

KingEbukasBlog:
Sharap abeeg .

That PastorAIO guy only knows how to criticize religious beliefs , he claims to be pantheist and failed to honour the request to scrutinize his pantheistic beliefs . What is he afraid of ? Criticism ? He believes divinity permeates the universe and can't defend his beliefs I lost any iota of respect I had for him . Nonsense .

Acidosis:
Atheists are the most unintelligent people the earth has ever accommodated



What a thread


All miracles, prophecies and dreams are staged?


Kai thank God I left this section for good.

Isaacmacdon:
Futile efforts to drag me down your infested mindset. That's the best you can put up? Hilarious and lame just like your father was. I guess you know who he is?

Weah96:
Huh, they're calling it a dictatorship or totalitarianism. Somebody missed me with the memo. I've been under the impression that they still were communists. There is no free press and no political opponents. The government assassinates journalists in the streets like dogs.

Weah96:
Remind him that China and Russia are still communist countries today.

stephenmorris:
in fact I just died sef lol

PastorAIO:
Could you please further explain what those statements mean?

How can a person be Existence? Existence is a state, or a value that you give to a thing. A person can exist or not exist.

A person can be tall or short, but it is nonsensical to say that a person is height.

You might get away with saying God is Life depending on what you mean by life.

But the most nonsensical of all is to say that Eternity lives in Him.

What does Eternity mean to you? How can eternity be in a person?

KingEbukasBlog:
The dude goes to every Christian thread making the same claim - our posts are not quality or they are fallacious . Have you noticed that he never points out these logical fallacies or prove that the thread indeed lacks quality ?

It should tell you a lot about him

Anyway , its fallacious to ridicule people's argument - its called pooh-pooh .

Most times I point out logical fallacies in an argument , with the appropriate names of those fallacies . You guys hardly or never do such .