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OtemSapien:
I think KingEbukasblog is more of a Christian Deism than just a Christian. I have never seen the guy speaking in favour of all the supposed fabulicious miracles ascribed to fictitious Jesus.

Dnaz:
I said it. U get info from you tube. Like seriously you tube ? Every tom dick and harry can get anything on you tube. Why didn't u type positive things about the catholic church there and if u won't see many expositories. Ur mind is biased and want to see evil

Ubenedictus:
why not?

Ubenedictus:
then I'm surprised on how you came to such conclusion... what criteria did you use in considering them as evil?

I'll encourage you to give the list of these evil guys so we see how they are more than the good ones... add their crimes.

Dnaz:
I guess from an anti Catholic propagandist pamphlet or website

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Ubenedictus:
how did you manage to get this your statistics?

skellyman:
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KingEbukasBlog:
I'm a theist , you are an atheist , why are we talking about the bible ? Whether it is fallible or not does not question the existence of God . There are theists (deists) who criticize religious books and they acknowledge God's existence .

From my thread on Sunday we can see that atheism becomes more insignificant since it just rejects deification , nothing else . There are atheists who acknowledge intelligence or mind behind the universe but they don't deify it . Frustrating for Nairaland atheists isn't it ? With more knowledge , you'd see how useless atheism is .

hahn:
Are you trying to say Sambisa forest is not exotic?

Ubenedictus:
if there is a community that has humans and existed even for as little as 200 years, I won't be surprised if those humans made serious mistakes not to talk of when they've existed for over a millennia.

that popes, bishops priest, deacons and even Christians in general sometimes fall from grace and into sin is a fact... it cannot be denied... and I'll be stupid if I attempt to deny that truth.

KingEbukasBlog:
butterflyl1on

Sir , JackBizzle has mental orgasms with the views and pages on his thread . He is trying as much as possible to make the argument interminable so people would see his "creative" thoughts about an entity whom he said with certitude does not exist. He is not interested in the knowing the truth . He is all about his perverse pleasure being made to look inferior , and the views and pages on his threads .

butterflyl1on:
For some reason you keep jumping to mathematics (which is a construction of finite man) despite my repeatedly telling you that this isn't my focus.

Besides any mathematical sequence ALWAYS has a starting point. WE SIMPLY CHOOSE where to start from. Be it - or + there is a starting point to any number progression.

I keep saying one thing and you keep doltishly saying the very opposite like someone whose mind refuses to see that his very own OP is talking about GOD who isn't subject to human laws and definitions of infinity.

I give up on you.

Ubenedictus:
I can't find the Borgia pope there.


from what I understand the Borgia pope wasn't in any way an innocent man...he had his heavy sins...which were themselves exaggerated by his opponents... those opponent sometimes are cardinal who lost in the conclave.


but the guy was not innocent... he was an example of serious rot.

Ubenedictus:
hope those reading this is aware that these accounts are rumours that appear centuries after the popes death... and usually from their opposition.


take this with a plate of salt because they are hardly impartial and usually hearsay.

butterflyl1on:
Good you got it real quick unlike someone else who has been arguing ceaselessly over something too simple to miss.

Consider this line below

___________

If you go from left to right it actually began from somewhere and if you go from right to left it also began from somewhere. This is what we see and perceive as humans. So with this we can say that this line can be drawn to infinity FROM A STARTING POINT BACKWARD OR FORWARD.

But God has NO KNOWN STARTING POINT be it forward or backward as He is described.

butterflyl1on:
Progression is only attributable from the point of first knowing a starting point.

NOTE the thread talks about God whose starting point is UNKNOWN and whose description declares him as EVERLASTING or EXISTING AD INFINITUM ( THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER)

God is infinity itself and does not need to increase in any form as your question depicted. Time as we know it is an extract from what already was. It was extracted from a time beyond it which cannot be measured.

For something that has NO BEGINNING AND NO END it means it is a constant and simply is what it is and does not try to become something else be it via increase, age, strength, wisdom, knowledge, etc. It is simply ALL AND IN ALL.

butterflyl1on:
All you just wrote (which is crap by the way) shows that as always you never ever ever read to understand before responding so let me save myself much typing and simply repost my last comment and highlight what even a little kid would have seen but you missed.

oluebubeneo:
Thanks for the enlightenment. I asked cuz you and Jackbizzle were making valid points though different. You mentioned, having no end right? When something ends, its like progression stops. For something that has no end means it progresses, it continues without ever stopping. Infinity increasing infinitely might not be exactly wrong.

oluebubeneo:
Thanks for the enlightenment. I asked cuz you and Jackbizzle were making valid points though different. You mentioned, having no end right? When something ends, its like progression stops. For something that has no end means it progresses, it continues without ever stopping. Infinity increasing infinitely might not be exactly wrong.

bloodofthelamb:
God is never lonely, for He has Christ Jesus and the Holy spirit and also me.

butterflyl1on:
This is what I call infinity.

The size it can potentially become IT CAN ALSO BE. In other words, infinity does not need to become anything which it already is.

Saying can infinity increase (infinitely) is to look for a starting point for this increase. That starting point can only be related to man but to God who holds no known beginning (starting point) then where and how can you begin to talk about an increased infinity?

In conclusion, infinity from Gods perspective is not known for an increase but known for an existing existence without a beginning and without an end. Existing ad infinitum.

oluebubeneo:
does infinity increase infinitely ?

hahn:
How many people can find Zanzibar on a map?

Ogbeni, you better go to where people know o like Lagos or Ogun state

butterflyl1on:
Read my comment again. The simplest meanings in comments always elude you. Smh

Martinez19:
If I have money, I will give him and help him our. Together, we will trash out the God and religion issue.

urahara:
Are u 4 real ?

johnydon22:
I always tell them, no one ever remains the same after arguing with atheists. Fundamental Christians turn deist Christians lol.

Meaning the arguments help modify people's views.

hahn:
Is he still a Christian? I thought he is now a deist

But the answer is obvious isn't it. It is the same reason why he has more threads on atheism than his god(whatever that is now)

He is in denial

LordAdam16:
@KingEbukasBlog

I think the biggest issue with this thread is that you failed to give a holistic definition of what god is. If you believe in god, it shouldn't be difficult for you to define "god."

@AgentOfAllah

Riddle me this. It's entirely hypothetical. Assuming

1. there's only one universe (not a multiverse)
2. we currently have an estimate of its diameter (or at least the observable universe)
3. we know it is expanding

What could possibly exist beyond the universe? And if nothing exists beyond the universe, is the universe expanding into nothingness?

I'm quite familiar with the astronomical conjecture that if you travel far enough, you'll return to the same point. If you look far enough, you'll see the back of your head. Aka the edgeless universe. But an edgeless universe is not necessarily an infinite universe. It's like traveling around the world in an aircraft. If you travel far enough on a transverse plane in one direction, you'll return to the same starting point. If you started walking away from your house in one direction, you'll eventually return to your house.

The concept of infinity in nature is near non-existent. Theoretically, it exists. In nature though, its not a foregone conclusion. If the universe is in fact infinite, then it by no means has a beginning. Just like 0 is not the start of positive infinity. Negative infinity is. And negative infinity itself is an abstract concept that cannot technically be called a "beginning." In which case, it'd be technically false to say the universe was birthed with the big bang, if it is infinite. The big bang would be one of an infinite number of cataclysmic events that ushered in a new reality. A reality of stars, planets, dark matter, and the whole shebang.

The initial singularity that caused it would in fact be the preceding reality before ours. And since no one can estimate how long the initial singularity lasted, it could very well be a reality of its own or mark a transition period between two different realities. And there'd be no way to know how far back it goes. Because quite frankly, there'd be no beginning. It also means this present reality will end. Because earth will die. The sun will die. Around the universe planets and stars are going kaboom. But it also means that if the universe is infinite, then only this reality will end and a new reality would pop in its place.

-Lord