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KingEbukasBlog:
There are claims of verifiable evidence for evolution , the age of the earth , the shape of earth yet there are still arguments on these things . Poor logic again dear .



Irrelevant information

Within science, evolution is not debated. Have you seen one peer reviewed scientific journal state that evolution is false?

Why are you into false equivalencies? The evidence for God and Evolution are very different. One is bare and the other is plentiful.

KingEbukasBlog:
Honestly , Ive had enough of your stupid talk . You claimed agnostics are atheists now this ?

Abeg, don't let me enter you. Dunce that doesnt realise that an agnostic is an atheist. Dont let me call other atheists to ridicule you.

KingEbukasBlog:
Abeg relax jare . It has nothing to do with atheism . Everyone - theist and atheist- can be open to the idea of extraterrestrial life .

If there is extraterrestrial life, then your bible is false.

butterflyl1on:
L = Loss.

Loss? Loss?

I knew that you were daft but I did not know that you were this daft! You couldn't just type "loss"? Jesus, I thought it was symbolic "L" for "Learner".

Christ man, you are daft.

DeepSight:
I am sorry to say, but this is pure unadulterated nonsense. The writer is either stark illiterate or psychotic.

Never a dull moment with Deepardo! Ride on, bro!

budaatum:
Trying to clarify for understanding. Someone claims atheists believe a creator exists but don't accept it is a god. While I claim atheists don't believe in the existence of any supernatural being including a creator.

I might have explained the person's position wrongly. Still trying to understand so, bear please if I am corrected here.

Well, I believe that all atheist do not believe in god. There might be a creator but it might not be God.


Many sci-fi movies hint that it is an alien race that seeded life on earth. Life comes from life, as we have seen. It is a possibility even though there is no proof behind it.

butterflyl1on:
Ode! Who derailed the thread?

Mega cop out jumbo dumbo

Ogbeni swerve. People with common sense know that you are both a provider and connoisseur of fake news

budaatum:
Pity you had to butt in.

Don't mind him. Kingebukasblog is a derailer.


But bro, why are you asking for the definition of atheism?

Thread derailed.

butterflyl1on:
Still on the zombie train I see

He wasn't reputable but was awarded the highest award on parasitology ba?

I guess all those who also bagged such awards as he did were also not reputable.

The first link I gave was 1981 spot on. The second link was reviewed in February 1980 but received in November 26 1979 (which is a month from the end of the year) That was why it was left and reviewed in 1980.

Do you see how you keep making a fool of yourself?

Second paper screen shot below

I repeat take your mega L and go

All this your explaining does not change the facts


1) Richard Lumsden was not relevant in science for almost 20 years of his life (18 years thereabout)

2) His last meaningful contribution to science was in 1979 which is still the 70s

3) He died as an alcoholic creationist.



He is not a respectable scientist. His views on evolution are irrelevant.

KingEbukasBlog:
I can see you are drunk this morning . I told you atheists ALONE and you combined atheists and agnostics

An agnostic is an atheist. Where have you seen any reputable studies counting agnostics alone?

Guy, you are a terrible liar.

Let me unfollow thiz thread and leave you with your lies

butterflyl1on:
Jackbizzle as a final nail in your coffin of buffoonery


https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00927380

This is from the link and paper

Zeitschrift für Parasitenkunde
October 1981, Volume 64, Issue 3, pp 335–345 | Cite as
Histochemical, cytochemical and autoradiographic studies on the rostellum of Hymenolepis diminuta
Authors
Authors and affiliations
Robert D. Specian Richard D. Lumsden


I repeat, take your L and go

Still. The Richard Lumsden guy is still not a respectable scientist.


Oh and waitt for it.........ACCORDING TO YOUR LINK, THE ORIGINAL WORK WAS DONE IN 1979.


STILL THE 70S BABY!!!



SWERVE

THT80:
Is this really all you can muster as a response to my argument? Really?

First, it's really silly of you to authoritatively assert that atheists are better behaved than Christians because you don't have any analytical or statistical evidence whatsoever. You don't even have the data on the number of atheists and theists in the world or in whatever geographical context you are couching your assertive statement in.

Again you are displaying a staggering degree of naivety and an extremely disappointing inability to argue sensibly and coherently. How is a statement like
"On nairaland alone, can we even name one atheist that is a scammer? But we have caught so many christian frauds" a tenable response to my argument? And how am I supposed to answer this question? How is anyone supposed to answer this question? Do we all walk around with the names and religious or nonreligious identity of every user on this forum? And even if there are more theists than atheists that have been caught engaging in unlawful practices, isn't this merely a consequence of population distribution? If the ratio of theist to atheists on this forum is 98:2, wouldn't it be more likely that anyone caught engaging in an unlawful practice would be a theist?

Oh. I see. You are serious. Sorry, i didnt put forward a serious argument.

First, morality exists indepedent of religion. People did not need christianity or the 10 commandments to know that murder is wrong.


Secondly, the major religions of the world all have illogical and sometimes evil morality embedded in them. For instance, the abrahamic religions of christianity, islam and judaism are all inherently racist, sexist and intolerant of unbelievers. How many female prophets do you see in Abrahamic religions? There are serious punishments for just disbelieving in both the bible and quran.



Thirdly, there is a positive correlation between religion and poverty. There is als a negative cotrelation between religion and intelligence. The two correlatons have been proven by numerous studies.


Just looking at the most developed countries on the HDI index will tell you all you need to know about religion and human development. Religion in itself is mostly immoral considering how it retards human development.

butterflyl1on:
Do you see how you are exposing yourself by yourself?

First you claimed you researched and his last paper was in the 70s and now you are claiming 60s

I have told you your thread was brought in dead.

Blocked brain Bizzle

It even makes my case better. The guy was scientifically comatose since the 60s.

Such a reputable scientist

analice107:
Yes, e dey pain me, you want to know why? Oh wait!!! You already know that they are agents of satan, and you know their end. You do.

Listen, i like Sarassin dearly, and Sukkot, and Billyoniar, and Chubhie and you too. I will really be hurt to see you all stand before YHWH while satan stands aside laughing and pointing his fingers at your, calling you fools.

He will accuse you before YHWH. He will remind you all Analice and all others said to you, but you took them for insults. He'll remind you every hateful word you spoke against Christians who tried to let you know you are playing with fire by invoking and petitioning demons.

I will cry and say, i told them. I tried to warn them, they said i was deluded, now the fire can not be diluted.

Yes, it pains me, sometimes, i even cry. I do.

If there is a God and there is hell, Analice, I assure you that you will be burning in hellfire long before me.


You are a two faced abusive christian. A modern day religious hypocrite pharisee.


It can never be well with you.

Yet atheist tend to be better behaved than most christians.

On nairaland alone, can we even name one agheist that is a scammer? But we have caught so many christian frauds

butterflyl1on:
The way you are desperately grasping at straws is alarming o

I stand corrected.. the guys last papers were in the 60s

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00260192

butterflyl1on:
Jackbizzle where is the 70s paper?

Where is his 81 paper?
Ode. The guy won awards for his papers in 75.

OtemSapien:
Discussing with scammer Samuel chinedum Ekwueme(butterflyl1on) is the most time-wasting thing to ever do. I wonder how you guys allow him to start feeling important. It's like discussing righteousness with the thief on the cross of Calvary.

I swear. The guy is still defending his lies!

KingEbukasBlog:
There is nothing to debunk , but there is more for you to sit down and understand .

1970

Population of Atheists alone : ~ 170 million

World Population : 3.7 billion

2010

Population of Atheists alone : ~140 million

World Population : 7 billion


2020
Population of Atheists alone : ~140 million

World Population : 7 billion

Show me the growth , I'll wait ...

Phil zuckerman estimates there to be 500 to 750 million atheists in the world. 7 to 10% as at 2007

According to sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500 million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the world's population)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#cite_note-CambridgeZuckerman-1

So why should i believe a dubious set of statistics from a christian site that claims that atheists are only 140 million in the world?



The worst estimates put atheists at 200 million. Only God knows whete your christian study centre got its stats from?


#Debunked

butterflyl1on:
Post his last paper you have here

Idiot. I asked you first.

At least he won awards for his papers in 75. What did he do i the 80s?

butterflyl1on:
From my post




Someone was relevant even in his mid 90s is now a 70s man ba?

Ode. Is creationism science? Lecturing creationism at the Institue for Creationist Research is not contributing to science.


The guys brain died in the 70s

KingEbukasBlog:
This is not about the religious affiliated or unaffiliated , this is about ATHEISTS ALONE - this includes atheists in religion and those outside religion.

See how everyone is easily exposing your illogical assertions , the continuous fall of JackBizzle

I did a longer debunking in my other thread. The sorce backing your stats in the op is an unreliable website.

Fake news

analice107:
Hahahahahahahahaha. This manchild wants attention. I was going to oblige you, but now? I changed my mind. Gerarahia and get a real life.

Ode. Did i mention you in the comment you quoted or ate you finally admitting that you are ishilove

butterflyl1on:
I am sure you can read. If you can then read my credible response above again. If you cannot not then get a Ten year old to read it to your hearing.

Someone died in 1997 at age 59 and his last paper was in 1981 yet you claim his carrier ended before 40.

I will give you a comprehensive dress down as usual in a very credible way if you continue with these your nonsensical gist.

The last paper i could find from him was in the 70s. Can you show me his 81 paper?

ToZaraWithaZ:
JackBizzle, it would appear butterflyliar DIDN'T lie this time. I think he's vindicated himself....... what do you think?

He did not vindicate himself. The fact remains that the scientist that he is relying on did not contribute any meaningful research to science since the 70s. The scientist was a degenerate alcoholic

butterflyl1on:
You do love flaunting your foolishness with pride as usual. Despite the fact that I already gave you the beating of your life when you tried invalidating Lumsden you still came here to make the same erroneous comments

Let me beat you up here again!



You are such a mega Jumbo dumbo.

Ogbeni entered research lane to try and discredit Lumsden. Lmao

From the OP on my own thread about Lumsden



That's at the end parts of my OP.

Someone also tried to discredit him just like you and they carried out investigative journalism and later came back to apologise to Lumsden. Read the link.


http://scienceagainstevolution.info/v19i11c.htm

Let me post the full text from the link above.



Richard D Lumsden) received the highest award from ASP [the Henry Baldwin Ward Medal] in 1975:

Does any of the trash you wrote debunk my claims? Is Richards Lumsden a reputable scientist? An alcoholic whose career ended before 40. A guy who had not contributed to science since the 70s

Ishilove:
Yes. He somehow manages to link sexual activities into normal adult conversations. The pervert

Please, everyone, use the nairaland search bar to search for "Ishilove hypocrite". Interesting results
here is a link https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ishilove+hypocrite&board=0


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I say this because ishilove is a renowned hypocrite on nairaland. You can see how she is saying that I bring sex into adult conversations- was she not the queen of sexual talks once here on nairaland?

If you search for "ishilove hypocrite" on nairaland search, you will find many nairalanders catching her in different hypocritical situations.



cc hahn, butterflyl10n, kingebukasblog, sciencewatch. Please, search for "ishilove hypocrite". You will be entertained!

kingebukasblog, butterflyl1on and felixomor

These three guys are like Trump supporters. They follow a false idol by spinning so much fake news to further their agenda. If these people are not checked, they will dumb down a lot of people on the religion section. Fake news is dangerous



1) Global Study: Atheists In Massive Decline, Only 1.8% Of World Population By 2020 by KingEbukasBlog
https://www.nairaland.com/4113507/global-study-atheists-massive-decline
The above thread is false.

a) The thread is backed by a sketchy organization- "Center for the Study of Global Christianity". Whenever you see "christian" and "study/research" together, please be cautious!
b) The fact is that no one knows the actual number of atheists globally and that is why reputable research organisations actually measure the non-religious population on a global scale instead.
c) The total atheist population is estimated by Zuckerman to be between 500m to 750m , which means that atheists are at least 7% of the world's population and not 4.5% or 2% as the study tries to lie.
d) A research by pew centre shows that non-religious people will grow from 1.17 billion to 1.20 billion but that will be at a slower rate than the growth of the world's total population.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6098151_growthofatheists_png2e23c7436454ae3b73599e62b6b406a4
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2) Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on
https://www.nairaland.com/4109903/renowned-evolutionist-turns-creationist-christian

Fake news! The evolutionist scientist in the thread (Richard Lumsden) died in 1997 and his last peer reviewed paper was in the 70s. The scientist died as a degenerate alcoholic. It is of no wonder why he has no contribution to science in the last 20 years of his life and bowed into creationism.
Renowned scientist, my foot.
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3) EVOLUTION SPOILER!: Soft Tissue In Dinosaur Fossil, University Settles Scientist by Felixomor
https://www.nairaland.com/3997080/evolution-spoiler-soft-tissue-dinosaur

Fake news again!

a) as usual, a sketchy scientist comes into play. Please note that this is a scientist that his book has been classified as religious fiction by his own publisher http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/bookshop/product/Jesus%20Is%20Like%20My%20Scanning%20Electron%20Microscope/9780595492985

b) Finding small (microscopic) amounts of the animal's original, unmineralized tissue in the fossilized bone does not mean that evolution is false. First, the scientist must prove that it isnt a later contamination instead of the original animals tissue. Secondly, it is also not unsual as
there are other examples of proteins lasting through hundreds of millions of years (sporopollenin, lignin — though admittedly those are
unusually durable materials).

c) The university settling out of court for firing him does not mean that his claims about evolution are true. All it means is that the university did not have reasonable grounds to fire him. Two separate things entirely.
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KingEbukasBlog:
There are no gods to an atheist because no entity- abstract or concrete- is being elevated to a divine status (deity, deification) . So the atheist lacks the belief in deities simply because he is godless or without a deity (atheos) , nothing is a god or deity to an atheist . Simple .

Atheism is therefore , the rejection of deification . Yes , there are atheists who acknowledge the existence of intelligent source(s) of life on earth (Raelism) and there are those who believe the universe is created (defence of this stance comes , as they say , from the first cause argument) but they don't take the First Cause as a deity .

If you deify something or see it as a god , you are a theist ; if you don't see anything as a deity or god or deify something , you are an atheist .

Example
The pantheist sees the universe as a deity or a god , as an atheist you are not saying the universe does not exist because it is a deity , you simply reject deification . Use this simple logic to understand whatever I wrote above , it can be applied to just anything .

Ogbeni, no one asked you for your long story as you are not an atheist.

SWERVE.

Fake news again from Kingebukasblog

The total population of religiously unaffiliated (atheists, agnostics, deists) is going to grow, it is just that it isn't growing faster than the total population growth.

The op just reads headlines and posts nonsense.

What a an orgy of assslicking. A four-way between ishilove, analice, sciencewatch and butterflyl1on

ewwww!

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