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jonbellion:
Abeg who is this person you quoted
Which kind ignorant comments be this one
Chaii
Christians oooo

The guy will learn the hard way.

I have broken many stubborn+ignorant christians.

Seun, Donald Trump has something to say to you

Amberon:
This is very contradictory. Also if there are more poor atheists than christians why isnt this thread about the correlation between atheism and poverty.

Yall just shoot yourselves in the foot daily.

He said that there are more rich christians than Atheists. That does not automatically mean that there are more poor atheists than christians.

Calm down and think

Amberon:
You people just spew facts from your butthole. When have England ever enslaved other people in the name of God? Where in the bible did Jesus Christ endorse slavery?

You live in a country colonized by British christians.

Please think.

Omudia:
Lmao...you really don't see how you're wrong or are you purposely playing dumb?

Please, educate me.

Mudia- stand up

This is a super-religious person's idea of romance.


In reality, this is not romantic.


Imagine my father in-law telling me to memorize bible before I marry his daughter. Traditional marriage dey use bible?



Carry this crap to the islam section.

Omudia:
Epic fool, I won't even correct you. I'll just leave you to your foolery.

What do you want to correct? Accept the facts bro.

Omudia:
The U.S.A is the richest country in the world. Argue with the stars.

Ignorance is a disease.


Please see where USA ranks in the most developed countries

bennyann:
Like seriously? Now you think I'm acting silly?

Just because he brings out evidences to accept the hypothesis of your topic doesn't mean I shouldn't test them.
Even if I'm daft, you could have just left it without quoting me if you wouldn't give me the answers. What's bad in finding out if those religion mentioned can be found to be prevalent in countries that are not poverty stricken

The fact that a foreigner carry out a survey doesn't mean I should swallow the results hook, line and sinker. Your OP is an interesting one and I'm trying to reason around it in my own little way.



You say sheer poverty? In churches? What's your definition of sheer poverty? And what's your research results gotten from all the churches in Nigeria? Do you know most Christians are educated? And what's the correlation between education and sheer poverty?

When religion is trying to help those who are poor already is different from they are poor because they're religious or they were once rich but became poor after adopting religion.

Well,
I can now conclude that a valid research will be the one carried out after all those poverty stricken countries are less religious or irreligious. I know that time is near but that's when we will see if all this research conclusions are really reliable.

JackBizzle, I've left you oooo. I mean no harm I was just just trying to reduce the biasness. I'm not really the type who argue on the religion section and I don't really want to be known for such so take care.

Guy, it won't harm you to do some research yourself.

You were answered twice and were even given links to further research but you feel the need to be questioning facts

bennyann:
Pardon me. But you'll do justice to this if you name the countries where the types of religion you mentioned are prevalent.

You really dont know where hinduism is practiced or you are just acting silly?

Image123:
Lol, so atheists eye praise and worship too. i wonder when they'd start communion.

This guy.

You still dey?

Niflheim:
@jackbizzle,

God is not a half-baked philosophy, he is a "stale, intoxicating and expired hallucination"!!! He continues to exist in the minds of people who eat grass like demented goats!!! Call his name from now till tomorrow, he will never save you!!! He who prays for a fish shall receive kwashiokor and starvation in the long run!!!And to the imbecilic christians who are about to eat their breakfast in the images below............................................................BON APPETIT!!!

Eating grass for pastor!!

I never get tired of laughing at that

Pidgin2:
Why are so many of you here, you don't believe in religion so why are you guys here?

I am waiting for the day that you will get tired of this silly question.

bennyann:
So it means most of the poor people are religious. I get you.

But a more valid research should be the one that tells if most of the rich ones are religious in a particular country also. That will truly test the correlation between religion and the level of financial status in each country because if we should find out that religious people are richer, it wouldn't make sense when we also say religious people are poorer.

So I think the conclusion of the Op is not really valid since we're in a world where it is expected for the number of the rich to exceed the number of the poor whether they're religious or not.

And again if there are more religious people in a particular country and the poor is globally expected to outgrow the rich, it won't be reliable to say a country is very poor because of their high level of religion tolerance. That will make the conclusion very unreliable

Thanks randomperson for taken your time to explain things to me.

Studies have already been done. Please read;

Religiosity Highest in World's Poorest Nations
"Each of the most religious countries is relatively poor, with a per-capita GDP below $5,000. This reflects the strong relationship between a country's socioeconomic status and the religiosity of its residents. In the world's poorest countries -- those with average per-capita incomes of $2,000 or lower"
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142727/religiosity-highest-world-poorest-nations.aspx

bennyann:
The richest people in Nigeria, are they irreligious?

You need to carry out a research before concluding. You're talking about religious people and not under developed countries or lack of education, broken economy and the rest...

I can bet that most religious people are richer in Nigeria. I wouldn't be surprised if a research is carried out and it gives that result. Well that's only if you atheists who claim you're not religious come out and make it obvious so you won't be counted among the religious

From what I see, you want to test for the reason behind the high level of poverty and illiteracy among black Americans and africans........ I can bet you that religion will not even be a major factor.

So please go carry out a thorough research before giving us your conclusions.

I'm still looking for the irreligious nairalanders that never came out of religion and they still don't know they are religious just because they have a weird belief system which might have come about after the word religion was conceived..

Before you will be against something, the thing you're against definitely came before your decision

I'm sure there are countries that are doing well inspite of their religiousness or religiosity .... Why not mention them also.... Don't be bias

Oga, you are missing the point.

I am not saying that religion is the only cause of poverty.

I am saying that religion seems to be prevalent among poor countries.




Please, name one country that is highly religious and ranks in the top 5 most developed countries in the world.

joeace2020:
Are you arguing for or against my point that more men are atheists than women and it will be difficult for such men like Seun to find someone like that and settle down with

Oyibo dey na? #teamWhiteBae?

Must Seun marry a religious yoruba woman?

plaetton:
If Religion was just a mild palliative, restricted to just making people feel better, the world might have been a better place.

From a mild palliative to cope with the vissitudes of life and the unknown, Religion quickly escalates to a mild , and then dangerous neurotoxin that divides and destroys.

yes.

of course, opuim turns into a debilitating addiction after the first few highs.



religion is the opium of the people

joeace2020:
I don't agree with you one bit. Nigerians aren't suffering the most, Nigerian women aren't the most oppressed. So your reasons are not sufficient. The general make up of a woman predisposes her to religious affiliations. This could be either most believe their physical or emotional weakness can be cushioned by depending on some supernatural force to make them feel stronger or most times taking the lead of men! Truth is all over the world, men more than women are more likely to be less dogmatic and more pragmatic. Don't be fooled by all this civilization rhetorics. Yes there are female Atheists in civilized nations like US, UK and the rest, and there are eve back home here but they number 5 or 10 males to 1 female. And women are quite emotional, don't be fooled.

Have you noticed that the difference between males and females when it comes to religion is 4% or less IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES? That is a margin of error.

Compare that to Nigeria. Have you heard of one popular atheist woman?

My own testimony is not that inspiring but I think that it is interesting.

I was sick just before a job interview/test. I did not pray, yet I passed. Some of my people told me to pray for a miracle to pass the test. I did not, I just read till I passed out.

I passed with the minimum and still got the job.

joeace2020:
That guy isn't married. Do you think it's easy to find a woman that can share his sort of religious ideas? Women are generally emotional beings than rational. stuffs like God, Jesus, church are more appealing to this emotional part of them and if there's anything i know about humans most of what we emotionally cling to are things we almost never question. It's more reason you can see them hang on to abusive relationships and more. Don't get me wrong, not a misogynist, just telling you why men like this find it hard with women being who they naturally are.

There are atheist women.

Women are not as emotional as you think.

The problem is that oppressed/suffering people are more likely to religious.


In nigeria where there is hardly gender equality and women are oppressed, women are more likely to be religious than men.


Seun might be married. Who knows, there are millions of foreign women in USA, UK etc that are atheists. ....

I tap into your testimony!

Brother! I wish you successful NYSC year and good job after.

Inspiring stuff.

Auki:
Saudi Arabia and high level poverty wealth

False.

Saudi Arabia suffers a lot of poverty.

They deceive people like you with riches of their princes and sheikhs.

Look at the common man there.

1Bishop:
YOUR ASSERTION IS COMPLETELY WRONG
Religion is not a reason for poverty. When both USA and Britain were sincerely religious, they were more prosperous and more peaceful than they are now.

You mean in the past where Britain was more religious and colonizing/enslaving the whole world in the name of Queen and God?

Or in the past when the USA was importing and exporting thousands of black slaves? Or when they were forcing christianity on native tribes?

felixomor:
If Teaching your children songs to promote ideology is not religion.....
I wonder why you are angry with christianity?
Really.
Besides, u clearly dont even know the origin of music.

I don't mind teaching religious songs as long as it is not harmful to the child

For instance, there is a christian song about love.....I dont mind that as an atheist

What I hate is falsehood and slavery- Imagine this nonsense song we learnt in school- "FATHER ABRAHAM HAS MANY SONS, AND MANY SONS HAS FATHER ABRAHAM, I AM ONE OF THEM AND SO ARE YOU...."

When did I become a son/ancestor to a Jew?
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Seun's point is that you can teach any song to your child, with the condition that the song is not harmful.......

oglalasioux:
I disagree with the bolded. Religion leaves us more frustrated and empty because we can never understand a god that allows good for a few and bad for the majority.

What if we believe in a universe that we came accidentally from and which left us unequal? Won't it be a better incentive to help each other than to believe some are destined to be rich and others poor?

You are half right.

Religion puts some people down.

A church usher suffering from poverty is ready to work like a slave for his church because of heavenly glory.

alBHAGDADI:
So when are you going to start paying tithe to seun so that he can buy a jet to meet up?

Atheists don't tithe bro. I know that you are not serious.

Calm down.

kITATITA:
We are subject to diminished mental capacity and escapism. We find solace in esoteric existence when we lose our ability to control our prospect in life. We either resort to seeking answers to inexistent questions (religion) or find way to explain our failure (blame government, blame our ancestors, blame the old woman in our villages, blame PHCN, blame Obama, etc).

It is a real shame! Religion seems like beer to a depressed man. An antidepressant that struggling people use to make themselves feel better.

Religion is not a cure. It is just the opium to ease the pain

The most religious countries are usually the most suffering from poverty.

America is the most religious country in the West.
-African americans are the most religious race in America and they rank the highest in poverty levels.
-America ranks amongst the worst in healthcare availability among the west.


Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan and Ghana rank among the most religious countries in the world. Also, they rank high in poverty.

The poorest states in Nigeria come from the North which are more religious since they follow a relgious sharia law.



What is with religion and poverty? For every rich pastor, there are thousands of church members suffering in sheer poverty!

lepasharon:
Sorry, but how is that different to teaching kids religious song?

? is teaching religious song bad?

alBHAGDADI:
Yet, they tell us that atheism is not a religion.

Seun is the Daddy G.O of atheism on Nairaland. Jackbizzle is jealous of that.

Bros, you dey smoke Oshogbo weed?

JackBizzle:
When Seun Osewa graces our threads



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tosyne2much:
In all honesty, I can't believe my joystick actually ere'cted mere looking at the picture

#Nobody should quote me#

I have quoted you.

Should i hug transformer now?

jonbellion:
it's funny how she bashes the Quran anyhow but has not taken her time to study the christian book
Plappville if you have indeed been studying your bible you would know that your merry go round with the Muslims is simply pot calling kettle black

lol....I know her type.