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Correcto:
I am just wondering how you pass or passes exams. Since I know you are just empty, let me help. The statement means it is mandatory for doctors who optionally wants to get a PhD. Does it make sense now? SMH you guys never seize to amaze me.

Twisting words wont help you, doc hater. If I want to lecture medical students as a doctor, do I need a PhD now? Answer a simple yes or no, and stop exposing your hate.

Correcto:
So you saying they didn't pay January and February, right?

For the umpteenth time, yes. January and February haven't been paid, sir

Correcto:
Now I wonder how you pass exams. Obviously that is why we have incompetent doctors. Read again, and if you can not understand. Request explanation.

Lol �. When you r beaten, u always resort to insults. Sign of retaaard

Correcto:
Read again, this time carefully so you can understand. Clown!

I did reread. And still came to the same conclusion :u r an unrepentant doctor hater

Correcto:
Just shut up, you play the victim card so well. Can you please research the months that wasn't paid? Did they miss last month or last two months salaries? Please enough!!! A typical Nigerian does things at the wrong time. This is not the time to go on strike, after this pandemic you can go on strike as much as you want.

You see what we're talking about? Even your doctor-hate cannot allow you read properly. The topic said they were owed 2 months, and youre here ranting if they missed last month's salary. See a psychiatrist for your doc hate psychosis. Ooopppss. The psychiatrist is still a doctor. Lol

Correcto:
Whether or optional or compulsory, when you are compulsorily asked to do a research or complete a course to get a specific degree, it is simple "measuring up".

Lol �. This guy. Did you see anywhere they were compulsorily mandated to get a PhD. This your doc hate is really psychotic

Correcto:
Just shut up, you play the victim card so well. Can you please research the months that wasn't paid? Did they miss last month or last two months salaries? Please enough!!! A typical Nigerian does things at the wrong time. This is not the time to go on strike, after this pandemic you can go on strike as much as you want.

Oga last salary was December 2019. Knowing how people spend a lot in Christmas, they musta been real broke in February, and this is March

Correcto:
Some volunteer to work free in this pandemic, however they are still paid. Shameless folks saw no time to go on strike but now the pandemic is close to your home. Just wait for it.

… but they are paid, abi? We're talking about guys that haven't been paid for 2 months. 2 months. And you're here displaying hate

Correcto:
I read only the second link, which is credible. After reading I understood that fact that PhD is made optional for Clinical lecturers and a pathway was created for fellows to get a PhD. The matter is resolved. Bottom line is PhD is still above the fellowship because you will still require thesis to acquire a PhD (which many of stupidly call cosmetic. NUC set the standards As for me hating doctors, I careless about your opinion or thought. Peace(quote author=jaephoenix post=87562860]
https://www.thexpressng.com/2020/03/07/nuc-approve-clinical-sciences-doctoral-programme-as-it-settles-row-with-mdcan/

https://thenationonlineng.net/nuc-mdcan-settle-phd-row/

There you go sir.
Next thing you would say u want to interview the journalists and editors that printed the news. Your doctor hate is eating you up.
Now run along and play with other kids

Oga, PhD isn't higher. It's just an alternative path for any doctor to follow. In the end, no doc would get a PhD since its worthless in our medical job career. And NUC knows no doc would get that, but they are trying to save face. So ultimately the doctors won since they wont require any PhD to teach in the university. Capisce, hater?

Correcto:
So in your mind this is the right time for you strike to demand 2 months owed pay? Corona is knocking by the corner and all you think best is to go on strike. Chinese, Italian and western doctors are busy trying to save their countries and the world but Nigerian doctors are rather using it as a bargaining chip. You guys are just shameless. Many doctors abroad are volunteering to assist Italy as I speak. I saw a Doctor from Ghana providing some innovative local tips to help secure his country but you guys here are just empty.

… and those Italian, Chinese and Western doctors have been owed for 2 months, right? Listen, you guys are unreasonable. Even if the Nigerian doc wants to go to work, where do u think he's gonna get money for fuel or transport fees or food or school fees for kids? Have you heard a doctor got free meals at any restaurant or free fuel, instead they would even con you to pay more. We still queue to buy(yes buy) fuel and still pay for meat like the ordinary Nigerian. So why should we work on empty stomachs with our kids at home?

Correcto:
The question you just asked shows how funny you are

Yes I stand by my question. Contact me with the jobless doc. Unless he doesn't wanna work or he's disdainful and choosy of the job opportunities available

Correcto:
Obviously the fluctuation of your stupidity will never allow see know the difference between hating and criticizing.

That's not criticism. You read that doctors went on strike cos they were owed 2 months after many ultimatum has been ignored. The first thing u said was call them names and propose for their termination. Is that criticism sir?

Correcto:
Please share the web link you got this from. The source will earn you my response on the issue. Don't post medical blog here. I see how shallow you guys make your research.

https://www.thexpressng.com/2020/03/07/nuc-approve-clinical-sciences-doctoral-programme-as-it-settles-row-with-mdcan/

https://thenationonlineng.net/nuc-mdcan-settle-phd-row/

There you go sir.
Next thing you would say u want to interview the journalists and editors that printed the news. Your doctor hate is eating you up.
Now run along and play with other kids

Teasyy:
Trust me you didn't laugh as much as I did.
He said they should fire all doctors... He even said he wouldn't tolerate it if he was a president... President kor president Ni... Grandiose hallucinations . He is only hating himself. Does he know what it takes to be a doctor? All these people with low self esteem. Rather than fight the common enemy, which is the government that have destroyed health care... Nonsense.

Dr. Adedovoh would be turning in her grave at the people she laid down her life for

Correcto:
First the person who came with the ratio figure is a clown and obviously try to push an agenda. See the researcher of those figures is corrupt. Doctors keep leaving the country yet many doctors are still unemployed. Cut the crap, I know the realities on ground. Have you wondered why western countries hardly believe or double check our researches. An average Nigerian researcher has no research ethics including those in the medical space. See you think you can impress with these figures, try do that with novices not me. If I ask for the type of research or research design that produced those figures, you will deviate. See Goan sleep. Your first question say a lot about the profession. Peace!!!

Bros which doc dey jobless? This hater sef

Correcto:
The number thing on list say it all. Most of you should be mechanics. I have got no time to counter and explain your trash

The guy na chronic doc hater. On one thread, the foooool was saying the Govt should fire all the doctors and hire foreign ones. I was just laughing at his stvpidity and ignorance

Correcto:
You are just a childish clown! Obviously a lazy human. You don't deserve my time.

Bros, leave insult and answer. Why did the MDCAN call off the strike. Oya read the communique. Pay attention to Number 3 and 4, doctor hater

NUC And Consultant Doctors Reach Agreement Over Academic Requirements*

Dear NEC Member and colleagues,

RE- FELLOWSHIP VERSUS PHD CRISIS

Following the intervention of the Chairman, House Committee on Health and the House Committees on Healthcare Services and Tertiary Education, a mediation meeting was brokered between the MDCAN and NUC. Initial discussions which commenced in plenary on Tuesday 3rd of March, 2020 and continued at committee level on Wednesday 4th of March, 2020. Present at the meeting today were the representatives of the House Committees on Healthcare Services and House Committee on Tertiary Education, NUC team led by the ES, Prof. Rasheed Ibrahim, the Chairman Committee of VCs, Chairman Committee of Provosts of Colleges of Medicine, Representative of the Registrar MDCN, Representative of the NPMCN, President of NMA and the MDCAN team led by the President.

At the end of the meeting, the following resolutions were reached:
1.That the Fellowship is the highest qualification for clinical specialists and remains the qualification for employment for clinical lecturers into the University (Lecturer I)

2.That the PhD is the highest academic qualification in the University

3.That the possession of PhD by clinical lecturers is voluntary and optional

4.That non- possession of PhD will not hinder the clinical lecturer from being promoted from one rank to the other up to the level of Professor in the Nigerian University system

5.That the NUC circular of 24th December 2019 creates room for wrongful interpretation to mean that those without PhD will not enjoy career progression and is to be therefore replaced by a fresh circular without such ambiguity
In the course of the discussion, a lot of technical issues arose surrounding the relative roles of key stakeholders such as the Universities, NPMCN and the MDCN.

It was agreed that the NUC should issue a fresh document to correct the impression created by the previous circular especially with respect to points 4 & 5 above, and an appeal was made to MDCAN to call of its strike (withdrawal of services) while discussions will continue concerning sundry matters affecting consultants at the committee level.
Consequently, the NUC has availed us of a fresh document today to supersede the previous one correcting the wrong impressions earlier created.
We have however clearly impressed on the committee that NEC is the only organ of the Association with the powers to take decisions on the strike. It is the belief of NOC that sufficient progress has been made to warrant an emergency NEC to examine the offer at hand, analyze the matters arising and re- strategize on the way forward.
Notice for an emergency NEC meeting will be sent for Saturday, 7th March, 2020 in Abuja. NEC members are strongly urged to attend as there are more issues emerging which are of interest to MDCAN beyond the current PhD issue.

Thank you,


Signed
Prof. Ken Ozoilo Dr. M. P. Chingle
President Secretary General

Correcto:
Lol the fluctuation of your stupidity can kill an erection. If you need my mention again kindly paste the agreement between both parties here.

Since I don't know, paste the agreement here. Did NUC stick to their former position or they changed? So in effect, who win?

Correcto:
Lol please face your lectures. Try to get a life. Learn to choose words carefully.

I have no patient now, hater. 14 years post grad. So stuff your lectures where the sun don't shine

Correcto:
Who cares

I do. Cos I remember you distinctly spilling bile on that thread where MDCAN members went on strike, calling doctors all sorts of name, and saying NUC shouldnt bow to them. Even said if you r the president, you'd sack all the doctors blah blah blah, and employ foreign ones. So obviously I'm looking at you now NUC bowed. Bofffffffffoon

Correcto:
After reading your comment, I only see you that you are saying a different thing. See some Nigerians earn and have a good work space yet their professionalism is almost zero, especially in government owned org. I hope you know medical consultants or professors earn good? I have worked with at least three in Nigeria on a project which every one is paid well and in $, but honestly their work ethics is quite poor, making one of them losing his contact. I have seen alot but I can't just explain to you. I wish I record my chats with them and play here without disclosing their identity. This is not about the good work space or money. You sound just like the example I made, you focus so much on money than your profession. See stop using good life abroad to be unprofessional. Work with what you have and give the client or patient the best you can in that poorly equipped space.

So cos you have met some lazy doc, that makes the remaining thousands lazy. I see you r brainy

Correcto:
Doctors in Nigeria are just overrated, I have traveled to at least 9 different countries including UK, US, India Canada, and have seen a lot. Nigerian doctors are just great in demanding salary increase and suppressing other health care professionals and their patients. Just like pastors most persons should not have been doctors. They lack the ethics. Most of them are doctors because it is a good paying job. They never try to improve anything other than their salaries. When there is an outbreak they find reason to run or blackmail they government. I have worked on a project with a South Korean doctor and I appreciated her proactive efforts in helping their society, but in Nigeria the ones I worked with were only concerned about the money they will receive from the project. The South Korean doctor was always punctual but the Nigerian doctor was hardly punctual. Everyone wants money, true! but you should also show passion in your field and help the society. When you see an American doctor online he or she is they to pass an refreshing information on good health but Nigerian doctors they most come online to fight for salaries, fight their patients or other health care professionals. There are many Western and Asia doctors on Instagram trying to calm everyone down in world by passing factual information about Corona Virus. Nigerian doctors need proper orientation.

Noted, hater

Correcto:
Really? NUC bowed? Evidence of stupidity lies in your comment.

Yes. They bowed to MDCAN demands and they came back to the classroom. Do u have a different news, hater?

Correcto:
Please just sack all of them, these guys are becoming useless. They go on strike at every single opportunity. They are tired of the profession. Sack them all. I know as a president I won't tolerate this.

Hater, have you seen that the NUC finally bowed to the consultants demand, amidst all your stvpid rantings. U dey see your life, fooool?

Do we even have emergency services in the #Shithole?

There was an explosion around 8.50am this morning, March 15th 2020. This was heard as far as far Okota, Ikeja, Oshodi up to Victoria Island. Cause of explosion is said to be pipeline, whether PMC It gas, we don't know

majamajic:
Liverpool lost in Carling cup , it's a senior competition


Arsenal do play feeders too , no excuses

All snr team play average team in the competition

I added that too. Total of 4 losses. I can't count the amount of loss your team has

backnbeta:
PhD after all the years and rigorous residency training is a NO NO.

Abi. NUC was just wasting time. Now the hapless medical students have lots weeks in training all cos of NUC

*NUC And Consultant Doctors Reach Agreement Over Academic Requirements*

Dear NEC Member and colleagues,

RE- FELLOWSHIP VERSUS PHD CRISIS

Following the intervention of the Chairman, House Committee on Health and the House Committees on Healthcare Services and Tertiary Education, a mediation meeting was brokered between the MDCAN and NUC. Initial discussions which commenced in plenary on Tuesday 3rd of March, 2020 and continued at committee level on Wednesday 4th of March, 2020. Present at the meeting today were the representatives of the House Committees on Healthcare Services and House Committee on Tertiary Education, NUC team led by the ES, Prof. Rasheed Ibrahim, the Chairman Committee of VCs, Chairman Committee of Provosts of Colleges of Medicine, Representative of the Registrar MDCN, Representative of the NPMCN, President of NMA and the MDCAN team led by the President.

At the end of the meeting, the following resolutions were reached:
1.That the Fellowship is the highest qualification for clinical specialists and remains the qualification for employment for clinical lecturers into the University (Lecturer I)

2.That the PhD is the highest academic qualification in the University

3.That the possession of PhD by clinical lecturers is voluntary and optional

4.That non- possession of PhD will not hinder the clinical lecturer from being promoted from one rank to the other up to the level of Professor in the Nigerian University system

5.That the NUC circular of 24th December 2019 creates room for wrongful interpretation to mean that those without PhD will not enjoy career progression and is to be therefore replaced by a fresh circular without such ambiguity
In the course of the discussion, a lot of technical issues arose surrounding the relative roles of key stakeholders such as the Universities, NPMCN and the MDCN.

It was agreed that the NUC should issue a fresh document to correct the impression created by the previous circular especially with respect to points 4 & 5 above, and an appeal was made to MDCAN to call of its strike (withdrawal of services) while discussions will continue concerning sundry matters affecting consultants at the committee level.
Consequently, the NUC has availed us of a fresh document today to supersede the previous one correcting the wrong impressions earlier created.
We have however clearly impressed on the committee that NEC is the only organ of the Association with the powers to take decisions on the strike. It is the belief of NOC that sufficient progress has been made to warrant an emergency NEC to examine the offer at hand, analyze the matters arising and re- strategize on the way forward.
Notice for an emergency NEC meeting will be sent for Saturday, 7th March, 2020 in Abuja. NEC members are strongly urged to attend as there are more issues emerging which are of interest to MDCAN beyond the current PhD issue.

Thank you,


Signed
Prof. Ken Ozoilo Dr. M. P. Chingle
President Secretary General

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Teaser4:
Juve get exceptional player, in case things wanna go south against team like ATM, cos they don't play normal football. Name one exceptional player in your whole team....una go suffer i swear...no be the same ATM expose una coach. how many una don chop since then...wait first, you no go know wetin hit una....

And what did the exceptional Juve player do last season to redeem them? For your info, the whole Liverpool squad is in top FIFA 30. Meaning allman dey exceptional. Only 2 Juve player dey FIFA 30

iamJ:
kind of thing you learn supporting a team that last saw the cup 3 decades ago

Did you know how long it took Manure to win the title? Guess you didn't know. Well, it was 44 years

majamajic:
The Liverpool that looks invisible has lost 6 matches this season , snr team oo

The senior team lost only 4 matches in all comps. I know hate wont allow you to count properly