MaxInDHouse: One thing that's indisputable is the evidence JEHOVAH gave all mankind!
We are all sick and there's no hope of ever coming out of what is affecting us all: DEATH SICKNESS OLDAGE
JEHOVAH promised that all these things will be done away with.
OLDAGE will be gone our flesh will continue to glow forever as youths! Job 33:25
SICKNESS will be gone for good! Isaiah 33:24
DEATH will be swallowed completely! Isaiah 25:8
Of course all these sounds unbelievable!
But the greatest Healer (JEHOVAH) promised.
To illustrate imagine multitude of people all suffering from the same kind of illnesses and as some are looking forward to permanent cure others feel it's just a dream that'll never come true. So those who wants permanent cure went to a Physician though there are thousands claiming physicians too which makes those ignoring the idea of permanent cure seems reasonable. But then one out of all the physicians promised that He will cure all the illnesses but the patients just need to trust Him by applying the medications He prescribed. He promised that all those using His medicine will first of all be cured of one major illness. Though death is inevitable for now but at least they will not kill their neighbours intentionally anymore. This is the sickness that has led intellectuals throughout the world to form organizations of different kinds yet the killing continues among members of all these organization!
This physician injected His patients and to the surprise of all this sickness was cured so that globally everyone can see that His patients has been cured of this deadly disease.
How foolish could anyone be if someone should come complaining about another sickness that's affecting everyone and using that to accuse the patients of the greatest physician who has already been cured of the most deadly disease?
Ọmọ atheists no get sense at all. Child molestation that cut across all races and groups!
Ok, so now you concede that child molestation and other sins, cut across every part of the globe, including your precious JW folks. Good. That's probably the only truth you have told since kindergarten. Lemme not hear that JW folks are righteous peeps, cos thunder go scatter dat your head when you say something similar Back to the topic you gleefully derailed, can you provide evidence of your god's existence? Simple question
MaxInDHouse: When you want to reason LOGICALLY it makes no sense accusing your neighbour over what's affecting you yourself nah!
Child molestation as a modern day sickness cut across all races and groups so you made the cheapest point in history with that Sir.
I am telling you and all other atheists like you that JEHOVAH promised to use His Active Force stop His own worshipers from raising weapons against anyone and you and i can see it's fulfilment life. If you're reasonable you should know that child molesters are arrested under the law, charged under the law, arraigned under the law, judged under the law and sentenced to prison under the law which means all child molesters are under the humanitarian laws. But which law stops human from going to war against one another? Well JEHOVAH gave His own worshipers that law because His power of reasoning surpasses that of all humans put together no matter your grade in science you can't figure out why your fellow scientist will think of killing you as SCIENCE can't appeal to human reasoning because it's the handiworks of human reasoning but JEHOVAH our God made it possible globally {Psalms 46:9} in the midst of those using His word to appeal to reasoning! Isaiah 1:18
So if you say imperfect humans like you are child molesters of course that's true but JEHOVAH promised that the same imperfect humans will use His word to make possible what SCIENCE can never ever do!
In one breath, you tell me JW peeps engage in imperfections like child molestation etc, in the same breath you also tells me they are god's people on earth. So what makes them god's people if they do all manner of sins and even go ahead to hide it? I didn't even include the sins of twisting the bible and rendering blood transfusion a sin, thereby sending thousands of cretarded JWs to their graves
MaxInDHouse: Science came as a result of research into what God Created so it belongs to everybody as long as we can use our God's given brains to make things easier all of us are scientists, but then some won't just bow to a tree simply because it's used for cooking, building house and making furniture, they believe it's just the WORKS of their own hands. That's what science is to sane humans.
But when talking about God humans trusting in science don't know what is making them kill one another despite the advancement in science and technology, instead of science to provide a solution it couldn't. WHY? Because it's just the WORKS of man's thinking so each scientist is building more and more powerful weapons, using it to DECORATE their armory awaiting the day they will run mad and start using it to destroy one another.
What about those that BELIEVE in JEHOVAH?
Well they've use JEHOVAH'S word to settle all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making buying selling and usage of weapons from their hearts and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman! Isaiah 2:2-4
So in as much as we can't see JEHOVAH face to face we can SEE the BENEFITS of His WORD as active in the minds of His worshipers of course we can see what we have achieved with science but then science can't stop it's worshipers from destroying one another.
That's why we TRUST (BELIEVE) in JEHOVAH even though we make use of our God's given brains to benefit from science!
Here we are, trying to debate if at all your Jehovah/Yahweh/Jesus/Yehoshua(or whatever pet names y'all could regurgitate) truly exists, and you went off at a tangent telling us not only that he/she/it/they exists, but he created a child molesting group known as JW, without dropping a shred of evidence. A group known world over for hiding evidence of sin amongst its members and touting it as a perfect congregation. I think 90% of your prefrontal cortex is filled with JW stuff, filling it into whatever narrative you can lay your hands/eyes on, even if it makes sense or not. Having a logical argument with you is as possible as getting a brick wall to talk. Same as Dtruthspeaker. 2 legendary theists that have 0 logical reasoning abilities.
MaxInDHouse: LIFE! JEHOVAH gave us life without which nobody can think of science or technology!
Lol. Telling you to prove that statement would end up making us go into a slow ass circular argument. There's no proof your Yahweh exists and you're here telling us it/he/she/they gave you life
MaxInDHouse: You guys amuses me when you talk about gods as if you have nothing to do with one but you people hail SCIENCE as God and ever ready to bow before science claiming it's your saviour!
At least science gave me vaccines, entertainment, houses, transportation etc. Hell, the phone and internet you're even using to blast science was made by science. Lol. You theists are verified clowns Name one thing Yahweh gave you?
Aemmyjah: I don't know what you mean by favorite god. There's no other gods I know of. Others gods are figments of human imaginations. Creation points to a Creator who is God and the supreme being. Since you don't believe in such, there's nothing for you to know
Lol. Exactly what I have been saying here for ages. You have swept all the other gods into the trash bin in one fell swoop and held aloft your favorite god, in this case Yahweh. The same exact thing a Hindu, Moslem etc would do, substituting their favorites. Lol What does that tell you?
Aemmyjah: Whether Bible or Koran or Book of Mormon Common sense for those who have tells that everything in the world has a Maker. Even the blind acknowledge that
Nice. I see you switched from hyping 'God' to now 'a Maker'. So how did you graduate from a maker to your favorite god? Care to elaborate?
Aemmyjah: Ask your fellow atheists scientists. Na dem talk am
If you see a piece of art by a beach but you don't see the painter, you'll conclude that it just came by itself
Scientific theories states life CANNOT come from non-life and that is proven in the lab but they want us to believe that no living intelligent designer is credited with the making of the universe As to the law of gravity, we know there is law of gravity but we can't see it or feel it but someone is responsible. Those who made the traffic laws, we have not seen them or the process but common sense tells us that somebody made them Bionics is the study of nature to invent things or improve things. Yet they take credit for what they make but give glory from what they study to chance or mother nature
You say I hold onto mythological tales, do you believe what some scientists say as to the origin of life that life came as a result of disturbances in a ocean or cosmic soup? As to intelligence, they say it comes from disruption on nerve cells in the brain. They make us and our existence here to look like it is by accident I believe life and then universe cannot have come by chance but an intelligent designer and Creator, so I am here on earth for a reason. If no Creator, life is purposeless and we're free to do whatever we can and no one should condemn us but why do we have conscience? Where does it come from?
If I see a car approaching quickly, my power of reasoning tells me to leave the road and away from the car. Did my power of reason come by chance? If there is no designer of the brain, why should I trust my intelligence or others intelligence in using what they produce or in making decisions
Lol. Power of reason or sense of danger doesn't point to a Creator. It's an adult human trait we acquire after childhood
Aemmyjah: Lol Your ignorance of the law of gravity Law of gravity guides the stars and the planets With that law, we can predict movements of planetary bodies for the next 10 years The stars look scattered from earth but in space, they are in precise position and movements as if obeying traffic laws
Did the billions of stars came by itself and set up its own system for direction? The law of gravity?
What about the water cycle What about the nutrient cycle, oxygen cycle that sustains life What about the rotation and revolution of the earth Who made all that?
Some scientists acknowledge an intelligence but only a fool will believe in an intelligence without personality
Lets for a moment consider the notion of a creator 1. How do we know its your favorite creator that did the job? I mean, we can have this conversation with a Moslem or Hindu, and he would insert Allah or Brahma into the gaps. But being a christian, you have labelled all these gods as false. So indulge us, sire, why you think yours created the universe, and theirs didn't. Oh, and please don't quote your favorite story book The bible, cos the same Moslem or Hindu would fill in the Quran or Vedas. I need you to quote non-fictional books Thank you
Janosky: 1. Most medical personnel are atheists. Oga,kiss the truth.
2. Does the evidence acknowledged by medical sciences PROVEN there are fatalities arising from the form of treatment you support? Yes !
3. No, your claim were debunked. Does this screenshot PROVEN that you were wrong to project your bias over the choices I make as far as medical treatment is concerned? Yes !
4. Oga, you have zero input over the choices I & my fellow brothers make with a clear conscience,(which medical sciences has PROVEN it's validity) and professionally accepted with PROVEN results.
5. Shalom.
I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do? Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless and of course are not readily available since would have to source them, and by the time it's ready, you're already dead. U need blood Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs
GoodIsGod: Guy all what you posted are called jargons.
Are you so lazy or lack data to watch the comprehensive video?
The claim was first debunked by those guys but same guys later came back to confirm that the claim was true.
Satan has hardened the hearts of you guys to the point that even when you see proofs of God's existence, you will Google and be finding lies to debunk it.
You have only googled when the discorvery was first debunked. Go back and google when it was accepted and confirmed.
Google Marchant.
Lol. I told you i watched the whole video. Did u even bother reading through my links? It said the evidences , from the gopher wood to the many others were inconclusive. I just gave you the link of the aftermath. The initial 'scientist' was Wyatt and he made the video on youtube. Another scientist came and they collaborated and finally arrived at inconclusive summary. Obviously christianity doesn't believe in evidence but Faith, so shove your faith where it doesn't shine
GoodIsGod: Bro. You have not used a percent of your reasoning. Someone in gross pain and swollen hand would cup his hand if the pain did not allow him to stretch them. Stop concluding on issues like a dunce.
He held the queen bee to prove what?
Why do you atheists think like fooools while bragging to be smart.
You'll just cook up anything to debunk anything that is trashing your weird beliefs. Demonic Ego is the number one problem of all atheists.
You call every thing fake to feel cool. Who are you deceiving?
Watch that video to the end. If you don't have data send your digits. I will buy you data.
Watch it and come back to tell me it all lies. Noah's Ark is not what was found.
You believe scientists more than anything. Yet scientists confirmed the large object found on the mountain was a man made object. And it is so big that nothing could have taken it there besides what the bible says took it there.
Oga go sit down!
Lol dude. Those hands aint swollen. I'm a physician and have seen real swollen hands. Swollen hands can't be folded or cupped like that You're asking what he's trying to prove? Of course its clout. The 'thief', cow owner and trado man are all part of the ensemble. The same way 'magicians' perform on the roadside with many people amongst the crowd part of their team. Then they display their number for simpletons to call them for help after displaying power U said its jazz. I have countered it with several points with people who can do it without any jazz. So what makes yours jazz
By the way, I see you have taken a leaf from your theistic book by resorting to insults I won't oblige you but if another person insults you back don't be annoyed
GoodIsGod: It's stupid if you to say insults is what works here. I made a post and expected you or anyone who don't believe what I posted to state their facts. The next thing was for you to throw a jab. You don't mind if your jab remove my teeth.
Anyways, I am not here to argue and argue with you. I only want us to reason together getting rid of any ego in our minds.
What I am trying to drive at is that there are lots of proofs all around us that point to the existence of the God of heaven.
Please watch that video to the end. The Ark of Noah found on Moutain Ararat as the Bible predicted. The government of Turkey and manners of Scientists were part of the exploration and excavation.
GoodIsGod: LordReed happy weekend. Please be sincere to yourself and take away the ego that has been the only catalyst of atheists' persistent claim of "No God" I hope you are not one of those who who use free data. If you are and can't watch the video I posted down below give me your digits I might buy you data. Solely to help you watch the video. Though it may be small but it will be enough for watching the video.
The Turkish Government was part of the Excavation. On Moutain Ararat.
“And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.” Genesis 8:4
Moutain Ararat falls in modern day Turkey
Remain blessed bro.
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Lol. Theists would be theists. I doubt if this nigga even researched this findings 1. First of all, the researcher wasn't an archeologist but a Christian nurse. Wtf is a nurse doing in archaeological findings? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt
2. Next, the 'Noah's Ark' that has been found has been disputed in several scientific publications as frauds. I guess christianity has to resort to frauds to keep up the hoodwink and scams. http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/bogus.html
In the late 1970s, Mr. Ron Wyatt began studying the area. While a nonscientist, Wyatt tirelessly surveyed the area, eventually marshaling several lines of evidence to support his contention that this formation is Noah's Ark. Eventually, Wyatt joined forces with David Fasold, Dr. John Baumgardner, Dr. Allen Roberts, and others.
Baumgardner, a geophysicist, was able to perform several scientific tests on the site, such as magnetometry, ground-penetrating radar, seismic, and finally, core drilling. Although he was at first open to the possibility that the site was the Ark, Baumgardner now contends he has disproved the hypothesis, especially by the core-drilling, which revealed only the sorts of rock on the nearby hillsides, and nothing of archaeological significance.
Meanwhile, Wyatt and Fasold have both published books on the "discovery" of the Ark, although they have now parted company and disagree about many of the important details.
3. In fact many Christian organizations even dispute the claims that its in fact Noah's Ark. With many groups claiming different Noah's Ark, and none of them standing up to scrutiny
Lol. Christians are a buncha clowns, and this Goodisgod character isn't an exception
GoodIsGod: Where in the news did you read that the man went out to pick the queen bee. This is what your logic tells you and gbam! You fixed it into the news and concluded that was what the guy did.
He picked the queen bee. To do what with it?
Atheists, I hail ooo .
And if u think he held the Queen bee, he'll tell the news people? Didn't your brain ask questions why the man was cupping his hands like he's holding something and bees sticking to whats he's holding? That should tell you there's something wrong. If I want to get rid of something if won't be holding onto it
GoodIsGod: When you post to insult just to prove you are smart. You are not only displaying gross stupidity but undiluted madness likewise.
It is pride of thinking that you are smart that has kept most of you guys as atheists and that is foolishness. When you guys hear claims of either the spiritual of biblical proofs and discoveries, you choose to go against it without making research and findings about the claim. You start to analyze thinking things of the spirit can be explained away with your reasoning.
Next time you come across my posts and you want to comment, do it like a sensible cultured human. For your information, I am not one of those christians who take shit from guys like you. My humility is not powered by stupidity.
Happy weekend
From what you wrote, u didn't even counter my points. Just rants. Anyway, insults are what works here. And if u look closely, its traded more by Christians. I guess you have tunnel vision
GoodIsGod: There is nothing to meditate on. He wanted to get a world record so, he went to the beehive and attracted the bees to himself. If you and I have the same ambition and go to the beehive doing same thing he did, we will be covered with bees.
The man in the news never attracted the bees. He did not go to the beehive. He was visited in his house by the bees and he was not the only one in the house. The bees attacked no one else. He took the bees to the police station and yet they did not leave him or sting someone else.
Don't pretend to be smarter. You understood what I meant. And if you did not, you must have gotten my point now.
Lol. How do u know the bees visited the thief? A typical theist has zero IQ
GoodIsGod: What has the man done to attract the bees? If you and I did what he did to attract the bees to himself we will be covered with bees. It is obvious this man was pulling a stunt by the reason of the cigarette in his mouth. Atheists will always want to "counter"
All what you did was you googled "man covered with bees" and it brought lots of men who pulled stunts with bees. Then you picked one and posted.
This particular man you posted did this to win a Guinness Book of Records. He sort to be covered going to the beehive.
The guy in that news was located by swarm of bees in his own home after stealing.
I will look for the link of the ghost thread.
Google Bee man. A prof in UK (or so) of entomology. In case you don't know what it is, it means study of insects. He specializes in bees. He covered himself in pheromones and attracted the bees. The man in the kenya story simply carried the queen bee in an object in his hands and thus the drones followed suit. There was no indication that the bees were stinging the 'thief'. And obviously no indication was trying to drive the bees away https://www.nairaland.com/7421151/bees-handcuffed-cow-thief-police#118192618
LordReed: LoLz! Look at the picture below. It is of a man covered in bees do you think he used witchcraft?
I dunno of the ghost story you are talking about that was on the frontpage, can you link it?
The story is that of a thief and his friend who were 'driven' to the police station in kenya, by bees. It was so obvious that the supposed thief was cupping his hands to hold the bees, but somehow, Nigerians couldn't see it. Then the witch doctor came and took the bees after hollering some incantations. Many of the commenters were calling out atheists. It was quite depressing watching educated peeps expressing low IQ views. All these things are just common tricks played on these guys that a little google search would unearth
Acts 17: 24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 YHVH did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.
Yap. Atheism is obsolete. It should be a question of which "God" is the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them.
There are powers everywhere and every place. There are gods every where and in every place.
Wherever humans inhabit, there will always be be spirits - both good and bad.
There will never be a time that human beings will not worship one thing or the other; one spirit or the other. This is because the Maker made them to have a yearning for something or someone to worship. This is as a result of the vacuum the Maker placed in every human being. This vacuum can be filled by diverse things.
There is the Creator - the Maker - who made the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. He is the one and only true God. There is no other. He is the Father of the spirits of all flesh. In him we live, move and have our being.
Numbers 16: 22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
Numbers 16: 22But Moses and Aaron fell facedown and cried out, “O God, the God who gives breath to all living things, will you be angry with the entire assembly when only one man sins?”
1 Corinthians 8: 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Yahushua the Messiah, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Acts 17: 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.
It has been established that the word "God" is a title, which is used to refer to an object - any object - of worship. It could be spirit, stone, wood, metal, water, etc. By this definition, it means, therefore, that anything or everything humans worship can be referred to as a god.
1 Corinthians 8: 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Yahushua the Messiah, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Those who worship demons and fallen messengers have them as their gods.
There is one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. He is the Father of all the spirits.
Deut 4:39 Acknowledge and take to heart this day that YHVH is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.
El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
Okay. Lets assume there's actually a creator. How do we know its your favorite god?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 8:59pm On Nov 24, 2022
