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RoyalDiadems:
He wasn't operated on.

To you, they may be lies. To me these are livid experiences that cannot leave my memory.

This event regarding my dad happened in 1990.

Sweetheart, appendectomies are not 50-50 ops like you stated. The op removes the offending appendix and the patient is ok. No stories after. Also, u don't see appendices on xrays. They are not radio-opaque. Most times its a clinical diagnosis borne out of history and exams. The investigations r conducted to back up the diagnosis

RoyalDiadems:
In 1982, my parents being newly born again as my dad was just coming out of Atheism, my younger brother fell through the staircase from our one story building and was taken up dead.

As my dad wasn't around, no mobile phone to contact him in those days, my mum had to take the baby upstairs and prayed earnestly for him, covenanting him unto God. About 2hrs into the prayers, the baby came back to life with a long piercing cry. Who wouldn't serve such a Jesus?

In 1990, my dad was dieing of severe stomach pains which doctors diagnosed as appendix.

He was to be operated upon but after hearing that it's a 50/50 thing, he asked the doctor to give him 3 days. During the 3 days, he went into prayers and in one particular midnight, he had a dream where he saw someone in white operating on him. He woke up to find out the stomach pains have disappeared.

Getting to the hospital the 3rd day as promised, he asked the doctor to allow him take another x-ray before commencement of surgery. Another x-ray was done and the abnormal growth called appendix was no longer found. The previous and current x-rays were examined. Everyone was stunned at what they found in the current x-ray. My dad never complained of stomach pains again till he departed to glory. Who would not serve such a Jesus?

My atheist sister who was in coma for 11 days last year was supposed to have been dead. Jesus brought her back to life with all sicknesses gone from her body. She saw Jesus while she was in coma and came back professing Christ as Lord and Savior. Who wouldn't serve such a JESUS?

My mom who has been partially deaf for close to 10yrs now suddenly found herself coughing and sneezing out mucus from both mouth and nose as she studied the Bible. Since then her ears have been opening. Who would not serve such a Jesus?

Few years ago, I prayed for a woman who was 8 months pregnant with the baby in a sitting position. As I prayed, the woman wriggled in the chair as the baby turned. I asked her to go for another ultrasound. She came back with reports that the baby is now head-down as it's supposed to be at 8 months. Who would not serve such a Jesus?

Time will fail me to begin to recount the mighty things Christ has done for me and through me. But I tell you, if we're to meet physically today, you would be swept off your feet at what you'll find of the power of God.

Only fools believe in stories told online by ungodly men whom Satan has sent into the world to deceive the gullible.

Jesus is Lord! Besides Him, there's no other.

Rhis is why I don't take christians serious. See lie upon lie wey u dey blow. Was ur dad operated on or not? U go talk say dem operate on am, the next u talk say no operation. And which appendectomy is 50-50?

MaxInDHouse:
My friend those been killed by Samson weren't on a queue nah!

They were fighting to get rid of this man from Israel who has conquered their champions and dominating them. So don't think they just line up to be slaughtered. Haba!

The other man who responded to his donkey did so out of frustration!

Going by the story he was a wizard so speaking with strange things is nothing to him but this time around his on a mission fully paid for only for his donkey who has always been there for him to stop and refused to move forward. So out of frustration he was hitting the donkey so hard like if it's possible to kill this good for nothing animal. When he heard the donkey spoke he couldn't think anything right at the moment than to tell the beast who has been his friend all times why he's now beating it so hard.

It's like you're reasoning from the perspective of a person who has never experienced spirit forces in action but it's OK i believe our minds are driven by the things we have witnessed before.

Jesus will not come and speak with you for you to believe in him but i know you will still experience the supernatural forces sooner or later in life then you will have serious questions to ask your fellow atheists about the SUPERNATURALS!

I am an ex soldier who strongly believe in physical weapons but have a lot of experience where physical weapons failed and we were astounded at what we saw. So i'm sure you will still experience something of that nature then you will remember me!

So how were the men coming at him?
About Balaam, there was nowhere it was written that he's a magician. And I forgot, did you see that God changed his like 4 times in that Balaam story? I had to ask whether he's on some quality Crystal meth. I mean he said Balaam shouldn't go, then later changed his mind and said he should, then when he obeyed him, God still sent an angel to kill him. No be juju?
About your experiences as a soldier, I don't have any comments since its your personal experience and no one can corroborate it

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is that you imagine that those things aren't possible because you haven't seen what spirits can do!

The man who singlehandedly killed thousands with just a jawbone wasn't fighting with human strength rather the most powerful spirit being in the universe is the one fighting through that man's body. 2Kings 19:35
So while those fighting against him can only see one man in their midst all the forces of nature is fighting against them!

And as for those on the roof top are you telling me that with the level of technology today you still doubt that 10,000 people could be assembled comfortably on a story building that's constructed to meet up with the capacity?

Well instead of thinking more about what men of ancient times were able to do with the support of supernatural forces why not look Into what humans have achieved that's similar today due to advancement in technology?

A soldier with a machine gun can kill over 10,000 people within just one day so if the Bible says Samson was able to kill 3,000 with a jawbone think of what the supernatural can turn that jawbone to while those around can only see one man with a jawbone!

Have you noticed what technology has brought to mankind?
We now watch what is happening thousands of miles away even millions of miles away on the moon while sitting in our homes. So if the Bible says a prophet in ancient times saw something like a plasma TV on his wall where he's watching what's happening in the temple hundreds of miles away know that the supernaturals already know the things mankind will still discover on this planet because they know everything on it, it's man that's slow in discovering all these things!

Lol. The joke is absolutely lost on you
Supposing bros Samson was busy slaughtering soldiers with just a jawbone and u r one of the soldiers witnessing it, won't you turn around and flee? I mean this guy was busy killing guys and all of them just lined up on a queue waiting for their turn to get killed. Hahahahaha
Then Balaam abi Balaak heard his donkey talk and he behaved like its a regular stuff he sees everyday, and was busy going back and forth with bro donkey. That's regular Shrek shit right there
Anyone that believes Bible stories is a grade A retard. Simples

Righteousness2:
If at this time of life, you don't know that we are in the Last seconds of the Endtimes, then you need to understand that the host of hell are comfortably seating ontop you.

Nwokem goan sit down. We've been hearing this since 5000 years and we'd still be hearing it 1 million years later

MaxInDHouse:
Perfect!

A book where one man kills 3000 soldiers with only a jawbone? Or where 2,000 people were on a roof of a house? And so many fairy tales. Do they sound real to u? Snow White and the 7 Dwarves sounds more realistic

MaxInDHouse:
SELF-CONTROL should be viewed from both end!

The God of Israel wants to set a standard for all nations to learn through the nation of Israel {Genesis 12:1-3} that's why He strictly warned them not to go against His orders because they're the main focus that all other nations will look upon as example.

So His decisive action in destroying them serves as WARNING EXAMPLES to any other nation who may like to worship this same God! 1Corinthians 10:11

Remember LOVE is His predominant quality so it's out of love for mankind in general that He is setting standards that will lead us all so we can regain what Adam lost: everlasting life! John 3:16

So He is acting based on the covenant (agreement) He had with that nation which most Bible readers don't read before He took decisive actions against them!

To know what justifies God's action please

READ Deuteronomy 27:9-26

Does the Bible stories sound legit to u?

MaxInDHouse:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

I do regard most of you guys who has turned to atheism because you people have valid reasons to denounce what you were taught about God but let me remind you that one is not to be called a tailor until you see him sew and design a suitable dress.

In the same manner you don't call anyone Christian simply because he claims he is until you observe how strongly he or she adheres to Jesus' teachings. That's what makes one a Christian not just claims.

Jesus himself said that his disciples will become WITNESSES of him throughout the world {Act 1:8} which means a group of imperfect humans like you and i will be known globally practicing what Jesus laid down as norms or tenets. Matthew 5:13-16; 7:16-18

After Jesus' death, resurrection and ascension to heaven Satan initiated his own agents in their midst {Matthew 13:25} and since Jesus' disciples don't force rebellious people out of their gathering {Matthew 13:29} they later outnumbered the real Christians and that's what you know today as Christians. Their attitude and behavior totally negates what Jesus taught his followers. But thanks to God true Christians have separated themselves from Satan's agents so you can now see the organization of true Christians today known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. It's exactly the same way Satan's agents treated Jesus and his real followers that they are treated globally today! Matthew 10:22-25

So if you haven't find such a group then know that you've not met the real CHRISTIANS! Act 11:26

Thank you, if you still have any question about faith in God please don't hesitate to ask !

I see self-control is one of the characteristics u listed there. Is it the same God that liaised with Elijah to butcher 32 little boys that called him bald? Or the same God that did these…

Numbers 32:13
So the Lord’s anger burned against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until the entire generation of those who had done evil in the sight of the Lord was destroyed

2 Kings 13:3
So the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He gave them continually into the hand of Hazael king of Aram, and into the hand of Ben-hadad the son of Hazael

2 Kings 17:18
So the Lord was very angry with Israel and removed them from His sight; none was left except the tribe of Judah

In fact the same Bible is littered with instances God killed peeps for flimsy reasons
Hardly can say he's self-controlled

MaxInDHouse:
I know you may have been dealing with some religionists who use abusive speeches when asked questions regarding their faith but try to be calm true disciples of Jesus don't do such.
So let's chat like mature adults without throwing insults at each other after all you're here to reason and not to abuse your privilege of speech!

God never claims to be omniscient at all it's misinformed religionists that's reading wrong meanings to His WORDS.
Where most readers got it wrong is that God focuses so much on His own works that He can tell the outcome if everything goes according to plan and whoever choose to go against His plans He can tell the consequences of such actions, but that God reads everything around Him is a LIE!

Note what He said after humans started doing bad:

And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. Genesis 6:5-6

Do you think an omniscient being can REGRET over anything he does?

Again when God was talking to a man named Abraham He said:

And the LORD said, "Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; i will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know" Genesis 18:20-21

Does that sound like the utterances of an OMNISCIENT being?

Again God said to Abraham:

And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. Genesis 22:12

Please does that sound like the utterances of an OMNISCIENT being?

Well my friend, you may have been dealing with misinformed Churchgoers and religionists laying different claims about God but i want you to know that you need real Christians to TEACH you what's in the book (Bible) otherwise you'll be arguing based on what misinformed religionists taught you.

Thanks and may you have PEACE!

Sorry I called you a clown. Apologies
About the topic… It would be surprising for a Christian to say god isn't all-knowing. I mean that's what you guys basically sing and dance everyday. But lemme assume for the sake of this discourse he aint omniscient. So what is the qualities of your own version of God (since he's obviously different from the regular God we hear about)

Dtruthspeaker:
So, when I say there is no car in the car park it means I am the only one with a car?

Boy, you are spectacularly stewpit!

The rest of your post just shows your CD is Scratched badly hence repea, repea, repeat!

And this just clearly proves how atheists are stupid, wicked evil people who do not have any good thing to give or reasonable thing to say

So Mr. Liespeaker, who are the Christians?

MaxInDHouse:
Where in the Bible do you find the highlighted written?

I thought u clowns say God knows everything. He knows the beginning and the end. But since you have started denying your gaffes, here goes…

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place,
Keeping watch on the evil and the good.


Ephesians 1:9-11
having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,

Psalm 139:1-18
O LORD, You have searched me and known me.
You know my sitting down and my rising up;
You understand my thought afar off.
You comprehend my path and my lying down,
And are acquainted with all my ways.
For there is not a word on my tongue,
But behold, O LORD, You know it altogether.
You have hedged me behind and before,
And laid Your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
It is high, I cannot attain it. Where can I go from Your Spirit?
Or where can I flee from Your presence?
If I ascend into heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.
If I take the wings of the morning,
And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
Even there Your hand shall lead me,
And Your right hand shall hold me.
If I say, “Surely the darkness shall fall on me,”
Even the night shall be light about me;
Indeed, the darkness shall not hide from You,
But the night shines as the day;
The darkness and the light are both alike to You. For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother’s womb.
I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them. How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God!
How great is the sum of them!
If I should count them, they would be more in number than the sand;
When I awake, I am still with You.

Romans 11:33-36
Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How
unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
'For who has known the mind of the LORD?
Or who has become His counselor?'
'Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?' For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God search this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.


Isaiah 46:9-10
Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’


Isaiah 55:8-9
"For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD.
'For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.


Hebrews 4:12-13
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

Genesis 8:1
Then God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the animals that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters subsided.

Isaiah 40:13-14
Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD,
Or as His counselor has taught Him?
With whom did He take counsel, and who instructed Him,
And taught Him in the path of justice?
Who taught Him knowledge,
And showed Him the way of understanding?


Isaiah 45:6-7
That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
That there is none besides Me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other;
I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the LORD, do all these things.’


Matthew 10:29
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will.

John 10:27
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

1 Corinthians 2:10
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

Ephesians 1:4
just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,

Ephesians 2:10
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them

MaxInDHouse:
Eve had a husband and both of them lived in a perfect garden void of things they don't know but they had everything around them to live as a couple, the best nourishing fruits so they don't need to cook before eating, different types of pets so they don't need to climb trees or enter a hole because the pets can do all that for them and since the pets understood what Adam and Eve says there was a peaceful atmosphere and all the animals lived like one big family as everyone eats plants and fruits.

But Eve had lots of questions running in her mind as she only knew Adam but she never met or seen the God/Spirit person who created them, all what she knows is her man who keeps passing the information about their Creator to her including the dos and donts.

There was a rebellion in the heavens, a spirit son of God is not contented with what he has because with all his powers he felt he should be able to do other things out of his own initiative without restrictions and that there should be those doing obeisance (worship) to him as well. His father (God) warned him not to think too much about himself but this spirit son has made up his mind.
What will the father do?
As humans if we notice such and know what could be the disastrous outcome we will choose to avoid it by exterminating this rebellious angel to end it once and for all times but the Almighty choose not to do that.
WHY?
His reason is that since all other angels are watching He should allow His countless spirit sons learn a lesson from the development.
So Satan was allowed to do whatever he wants perhaps he will be happy afterwards, he left heaven, came down to watch how the couple are doing in their garden. He noticed that the first creature (Adam) may be tough to convince since he is the person God spoke to directly so Satan watched the couple until Adam is somewhere far away from Eve that's when Satan took over one of their pets and spoke to Eve. At first she must have been shocked but in her heart she's now doubting both God and Adam because Adam never told her that any of their pets can talk then Satan gave her more reasons to doubt by telling her that the rules God gave the couple is of no use and Adam was fooled.
Eve no longer just only entertaining doubts but now she's beginning to believe (trust) what this pet is saying.
What could have led her into accepting Satan's ideas?

She never saw God before then she only knew what her husband (the only creature of her kind in the garden) told her!

So if you're insisting on seeing God first before you believe that God exists you're not the first person neither will you be the last. But you will surely drag others like you down with you for not using their brains to reason why they are here if there is no intelligent maker who designed this planet home we live in our of countless planets we can see with the telescope! Genesis 1:1

May you have PEACE!

But being an omniscient God, he should have known all these would happen and prevented them

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of Post! I Didn't say I was the most righteous person.



Lies! Those people had it throughout the 80s and 90s while we were enjoying in Nigeria, before you imported them, which is what I said!



See, Liar, Change of Post Thief and Attempt to Twist!



Less Christians, more pagans, you said! Full Time Liar, Goal Post Thief, fact twister.

And this just clearly proves that all atheists are wicked evil people who do not have any good thing to give or reasonable thing to say

Change of Post! I Didn't say I was the most righteous person.

When u say the Christians I mentioned are not christians but church goers that means you insinuate u r the only Christian around
Lies! Those people had it throughout the 80s and 90s while we were enjoying in Nigeria, before you imported them, which is what I said!
There was no time you were better off than those Europeans. Talk another lie

Less Christians, more pagans, you said! Full Time Liar, Goal Post Thief, fact twister.
I would have told you to look at stats of Christian growth in Nigeria from then til now but knowing you, its just a waste of time. Your delusion is impeccable. You choose and live your lies

And this just clearly proves that all atheists are wicked evil people who do not have any good thing to give or reasonable thing to say
Lol. Of course you have to show yourself. I can proclaim all Christians are liars like you but know its not true. I wont be drawn down to your level

Lamanii22:
Nah I don't believe you

Okay. No p

BRATISLAVA:
And you are sure she isn't among the 20-50% it failed for? Do you know her personally?

Everything isn't IVF. I know a lot of people with failed IVF, and some got pregnant without it years later.

Your infalliable science is still failing everywhere.

Bros, science never told you its infallible. I even told you its not up to 90% success rate. It's better than doing nothing(which is what I call praying to a non-existent heavenly porn watcher

ProphetofOdin:
God could not do it for 19years for obvious reasons and then science cam along and did it but this ungrateful lot are giving the glory to someone else.

That's the workings of the brains a typical christian

BRATISLAVA:
How do you know it is IVF?

What is the success rate of your silver bullet IVF?

I have explained to u. If u still don't understand, then I can't help you
IVF has success rate from 50-80% depending on locations in the world. No one would tell you its 99 or 100%
Its better than sitting and waiting for your non existent god to move his ass while one gradually gets old

bonnyhope:
That's why HE is God

His time is the best

He does not do things in human ways

What about those that he ignored and they never had children. I mean pastors and good christians oh
Yet her gave atheists ample children without them acknowledging him
This god is not fair at all

KIDfurniture:
When will we Nigerians start returning the credits to IVF ? God almighty gave oyinbo the brain to get it done . In Nigeria we want God to to everything for us through our useless clergies (Christian & muslim )

So god gave oyinbo the brain to do that and forgot to give Africans? Christians are legit clowns

Winning123:
It could only have been God. Many people have tried IVF without success. Only God gives children. even when people approach the devil and have children it is because God permitted it. You don't know what you just wrote. God is not a respecter of any persons. He can punish you for your comments as simple as it appears. Do the right thing and ask for his forgiveness right now

Lol. Christians can be funny sha
So now u agree its IVF and ur god has no hand in it

Dtruthspeaker:
Now, you have begun to lie because, every one has confessed that it is hard to see a righteous person.



I said it before saying
"you are jobless as they are, your children are hungry, homeless, useless, drug addicts, lonely, suicidal, useless marriages, divorce, no family, no love, no friends, painful incurable diseases, miserable living, constant depression, etc



Now that I know you lie, it is no surprise that you lie here, for if you were truly aware of the "good old days" you would never have asked



And if you truly knew about the good old days, then you would know that Sunday church was a no miss, then!

But because you did not know, you made the mistake asking these stupid questions.

So, you see, you are a liar, just like Satan, which is why you must hate God, just like Satan.

So since you resort to lies, clearly you have no thing reasonable or valid to say.

And this clearly proves that all atheists are wicked evil people!

I have forgotten how quite demented you r
1. There are actually people that r more righteous than u r. If u don't believe it, don't assume me to be a liar. U lie a lot
2. All those qualities u mentioned are actually qualities of a typical Nigerian
Again, I ask 'How is your life better than a typical atheist in America or Europe?' You have dodged that question
3. When has 'Sunday churches' been a sign of righteousness? I thought u said 'churchgoers' r not Christians?

OkoAmarashy:
If you can't grasp what I'm driving at, maybe you should ask someone else to help you.

Sorry sir. U don't make sense. A third person has confirmed the same. Maybe u can throw more light yourself

naija4life247:
I am a Muslim. I went to Catholic Primary school and did Bible Knowledge as a compulsory subject from primary-1 to JSS-3, nobody in my set got up to me in the Exams. But, I also went to Quranic schools. So, I have a fair knowledge of the two most popular religions in Nigeria. Today, I am married to a Christian. My kids are Christians. But, mind you, I too was baptized in primary-4 at at the Catholic Church, I was baptized immediate after High School at Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministry, Onike Yaba, I was also baptized at Winners Chapel when I wanted to wed a Winner. But, I am still a Muslim who also goes to the Church.

Christianity and Islam are not scam, only that Nigerians want God to do for them what they should do themselves. The difference between the two religions are the people who practice the religion. Christians are not as aggressive as Muslims when their religion is malign, but Muslims are more tolerant, that is why you see several Muslims who are married to Christians and still drive their wives to Church.

Overall, I go to the Muslim, and also go to the Church. If masquerades of my community come out, I still follow them for up to 3o kilometers round a section of the city.

If you think God does not exist, then you need psychiatric evaluation.

You finished giving us your brief history, in the end, you didn't contributed anything meaningful, and you jumped to a conclusion. Is there anything in your writeup that gave rise to that conclusion? Hell no. That's why u folks fail English woefully

BRATISLAVA:
How do you know it's IVF?

Simple
Whenever you hear couples with infertility issues for many years and suddenly they get hit with twins, triplets etc, it's a no-brainer. A woman's ability to conceive dwindles as she gets older, so getting pregnant for a singleton fetus is even difficult, never mind multiple gestations. It's only assisted conceptions that helps them. Many use donated eggs cos by ages 35 to 40, the eggs get poorer in quality and Mullerian factor dwindles. So during fertilization, 4 or more eggs are implanted so as to get the best outcome. Sometimes 2 out of them survive. Sometimes 3. That's how the multiple gestation came up, and boom, they give birth to twins, triplets, news gets to Nairaland and our ignorant Christians start praising their gods and what-not, while the parents look on in wonder at the sheer stupidity on display
Savvy?

Dtruthspeaker:
The people around you are most likely church goers and not Christians. And church goers do not truly love God, else you would hate them because they have better lives.



What are all the threads in here about the good good old days about o child tribulation?

https://www.nairaland.com/6977809/good-old-days-pictures/2#110086659

Especially this man's comments


And that is a comment made since 2008, you probably were not still born then.

You're further worsening your case, bro
1. The people around me u call Church goers live more righteous lives than you'd ever dream of. And lets assume Dtruthspeaker is the only Christian in Nigeria(since he doesn't believe there are other true Christians), how is your life better than the average atheist European, Chinese or American that has better healthcare, food, security, infrastructure etc?
2. In the good old days u pointed out, there were actually less Christians and more 'pagans'. The gospel isn't as widespread as it is now, so u r saying your gracious god was favoring heathens. So that completely negates your point
3. And oh, I'm much older than you think. You should be talking about my if my daughter was born then
Bros 'Dtruthspeaker', turns out your name is a big burden foe you

Dtruthspeaker:
It is not in Genesis 4 but in Genesis 5.

Genesis 5:4
"And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

That's even worse. He had other sons and daughters after Cain got married in Chapter 4?
So you still haven't answered who bros Cain married.
You're further shooting yourself in the foot
I suggest you chill out a little from defending that fairy tale. The problem is you'll enter more portholes as you try to defend one porthole

Karnice600:
I think most atheist get it all muddled up when they start tryna trace their way back through a hole and a bubble...
I got to this point too, but it always ended up in my looking stupid, until I asked the question, "What is the purpose of life?"
That was when lines began falling in places and the puzzles began fitting, creating a vivid picture of the dimensional realities that hold existence together.
I never hated the idea of a Creator, I only had an open mind to learn

So what's the purpose of life?

Lamanii22:
you can't be an atheist in Lagos..,

Im an atheist. I live in Lagos
Blow another lie

Dtruthspeaker:
1) said God lovers and not false God lovers.

2) Africans used to live better great foods, free land and housing, family and security until you people became "American and European" now you are cursed as they are, now you are jobless as they are, your children are hungry, homeless, useless drug addicts, lonely suicidal, murderers and thieves, as they are.

1. See as u r contradicting yourself. Who are the false god lovers? Can you name them? Are you saying the god Christians around me love are false?
2. Another gaffe. Another contradiction. Can you remind me when Africans were 'Leaving better lives'?

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible also said that they had other "sons and daughters". And when you add the fact that they lived very long, then you can see how many they shall and can multiply.

And you can see that men who aren't even up to 80 years have had up to 12 children, who would grow up to have their own children.

Meanwhile Papa Adam still dey alive and maybe still releasing new "brothers and sisters".

Therefore, Cain could still be furiously killed when he was in his 225th year.

It's as simple as that!

Because of u I went through Genesis 4 again. Nowhere was it written that Adam and Eve had other children apart from Cain, Abel and Seth. In fact Cain married his imaginary wife before Seth was born
I have Genesis 4 for you, just so you won't slip away



[b]And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the [/b]

sinkhole:
Na dat one shock you?
OK, what of the fact the Cain married from people that came out of nowhere

See it here:
And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

See guy, if na loop holes, dem full that Bible. There was a time I was just finding loop hole after loop holes. I had to stop. No need. That book is a poorly written fairy tales. I doubt Grimm Brothers would do a poorer job

SmartPolician:
God can never appear to any man if that's what you expect.

He wants to know people who genuinely love and fear Him without seeing Him.


It's better to believe that heaven exists, prepare for it and later find out that it doesn't exist than not believe that heaven exists, live a reckless lifestyle and find out that hell is real.

Another gaffe. I thought your Jehovah appeared to many men in the Bible? Why this sudden shyness?
Nigga just went AWOL when many atheists are popping up asking where he went
By the way, about your last sentences, isn't is safer to believe and love the Flying Spaghetti Monster than to die and find out the frying hot noodle is real, and you burn forever?