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erniok:
In research, there must be sincerity. The LRA ideology is to protect the acholi tribe in Uganda. The Holy Spirit movement that inspired Kony is led by Alice who said the "holy spirit" is an acholi spirit that speaks to her, if this is not spiritism, then tell me what is.
Any man can claim "holy spirit" told him to do things but you must know the character of the Holy Spirit to either agree or disagree with such fellow.

Paul talked about those that have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. In this category you find folks like Donald Spitz. People pull pages of the scripture to dedraud others. In this light, would we then say all believers are fraudsters?

I tell muslims especially those in northern nigeria that because his name is samuel doesn't make him a christian as they believe. Heck the fellow might be an atheist. The Lord Jesus said by their fruits, you shall know them.

In the light of your post, do you believe Hezbollah, Isis, Boko Haram etc are Muslim terrorists?

MightySparrow:


He doesn't believe in my God. It is like you asking Ghanaian Law in Nigeria.

You said Yahweh should bless you so you can tithe. So who is blessing non-tithers like Musk, Bezos, Dangote etc?

MightySparrow:
Thanks you Sir.
Father God bless me so very much to be to give much more than I am doing now. Please Baba God. Bless me lo. In Jesus name.

How much tithe does the richest men like Musk, give?

Image123:
The Bible, which is newer than tomorrow's newspaper, teaches next to nothing about pouring away sperm. You apparently missed the point. It's like one alluding that the Bible is against touching carts on cows when you read the account of Uzza in Kings or Chronicles. The 'ancient' folks then were smart enough to understand and adjust accordingly.
The account of Judah referenced in Genesis 38 shows a seriously flawed family, not just Onan (or Er as someone mentioned). All the sons of Jacob were on a different wavelength, compared to their fathers Abraham, Isaac, and even Jacob. Their flaws had been showing from earlier chapters, where the 1st born lost the right of the first born by sleeping with his father's wife. Then the 2nd and 3rd born sons led their brothers to murder a town, losing their place. And then 4th born Judah went to do the exact thing that they killed people for (marrying Canaanites). Their case was more of a full cup waiting to spill or, like we say, a keg of gun powder. And you know the story, but let me summarize. Judah got 3 sons from the Canaanite. These were apparently supposed to be the ones to inherit firstborn rights and that Jesus Christ should come through. Er married Tamar, he got killed for wickedness. His brother Onan was going to be sleeping with the widow for free, he also got killed. Judah somehow ended up impregnating the widow and she got our lovely twin great grandfathers.
It's a story with many important lessons, none of the lessons has to do with pouring away sperm. You all need the Spirit of God, you would see.

All these gibberish and yet you couldn't answer the question

Image123:
The Bible is about 66books, not one verse in Genesis. Planning, preparation, wisdom are integral preachings and commands in the Bible, i didn't add them.

Just like the Bible commends murder, adultery. Depends on how you view some passages

Image123:
Why do you want to be like Er if you're not Er?

Did I tell you I wanna be Er?

erniok:
Apart from wikipedia, which never delved into their ideology, no other website did any better write up on the army of god. I'd like to have your references to their ideology site since you said they claimed to be fighting for god. I'd love so much to know which god.

This is like the lord's resistance army that most call a Christian terrorist group who practice spiritism. I wonder how that is linked to the christian faith.

Kindly provide your references as info about them is scanty. Regards.

Thank you.
The wiki page literally showed the Army of god flag, held by a pastor named Donald Spitz. This is his page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Spitz
On the flag is a bible passage of Proverbs. What other reference to Christianity do you need?
Lord Resistance Army is a known Christian terrorist group. I don't know what you mean by they practice spiritism

StillDtruth:
You are just hopelessly repeating yourself like a mad person...So, it makes sense to you that for Tinubu to inslave you he needs to give you woves?

As many people have told you, you are a Mad person!

That is what your yhwh is doing. And it worked apparently

Inyaky:
You are so deft, who s taking about arabic here, you head slammers can't even hide your hate for Christians, bunch of dirty pigs, hypocrites who think by carrying dots on their dirty forehead they are holy, mumu

First things first bozo, I'm an atheist not Muslim. Also i was being sarcastic. If you have half a brain, you'll know what I am talking about

LordReed:
LoLz. These are the kinds of stories people tell themselves to to comfort their superstitious fears. No different from our forebears who thought the sacred groves were protected by the gods only for them to be decimated by foreigners.

I mean it takes a seriously brain dead person to believe these kind of fables

Ebonygeek:
Regardless of whatever label you identify as, you need to stop for a moment and really think about what's going on. The signs are all there. Jesus is alive.

… and you believe this kind of stories?

erniok:
No, I said in that particular case, none of his actions pointed him out as a "christian terrorist" likethe article title if you had taken your time to read it. Why didn't they call him a grieving terrorist since they said he lost his loved one.

On the other hand, most terrorist who are muslims claim they do it because of their faith and this is a fact.

I noticed you didn't bother to satisfy curiosity. Any reason for that?

Have you heard of the Army of God? Please google it. They claim to have been sent by god. Check other Christian terrorists and their mandates

Lemos14:
This is the third time you are quoting me. It must be really paining you. For someone who doesn’t believe in God I don’t know why you disturb me for proof. Despite ignoring you.

Lol 😆 this is funny
You posited that there is proof of your god, when prompted for proof, you're now spewing rubbish.
Next time don't say what you don't know. Get out!

adeniyi65:
Abandoning those verses that clearly support slavery to suit their ideology. Especially the one that teaches how you can multiply your slaves 4 "If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. wow, more slaves more power to the master.

He ignored those. I reminded him of those

SIRTee15:
Moreover exodus 21.26 talks about the penalty for inflicting permanent injury on a slave.

If a slave suffers permanent injury due to excessive beating or any physical abuse, the slave must go free.
Even if it's a minor thing like knocking off one of his tooth, the slave MUST BE RELEASED AND BE FREE- HE SHOULD NO LONGER BE A SLAVE.
That's the compensation for the victim.

So as StillDtruth already emphasized, God instituted labour laws to ensure abuse of slaves is heavily discouraged.

U can't beat a slave to death neither can U beat him in a manner to leave a permanent injury.

Exodus 21
26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

Moreover, if U read the book of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy without prejudice, U will notice the labour laws instituted by God made it very difficult for people to own slaves for life except if the slave choose to.

Lands bought must be returned back to the original owner in the year of jubilee making excessive acquisition of land and increasing demand for free labour impractical.

There are Sabbath years for lands where U don't do anything on the land, what then would U need slaves for?

Slaves have the right of redemption, they should be released by the 7th year of slavery or the year of jubilee. Relatives can also buy them out of their status at anytime.

Owners must treat slaves like they are hired workers. The only difference is that they are not paid any wages. That means slaves must not be treated like slaves as we understand it today.

Owners must also compensate freed slaves with few
possessions when they leave. Freed slaves must not leave their master's household empty handed.

Foreign slaves who turn to YHWH and embrace the covenant God established with Israel automatically gets treated with above privileges because the God commanded strangers dwelling amongst Israelites should be treated fairly according to the mosaic law.

If U are sincere, U will admit all these labour laws instituted by God makes it uneconomical to keep slaves except if really necessary. I can as well get hired workers to do the job since labour was cheap in those days, rather than having someone I'm feeding yet burdened with all the above responsibilities.


Finally to the argument, why did God not just ban slavery or say it's wrong.
This argument lies in the poor understanding of the Hebrew word for slavery as used in the bible and how the welfare system work in ancient civilization.
I will explain on that later.

Did you also read where Yahweh talked about how slave owners can cheat their slaves to work for them for live?
Exodus 21:1-25
New International Version
21 “These are the laws you are to set before them:

Hebrew Servants
2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free

5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.


From the above, all a slave master has to do to keep an israeli slave for live is to give him wives. Because the slave cannot go away without his wife and kids. So he's basically stuck. Very clever by Yahweh






Also all the goodies you talked about in the 'Labor laws' concerned slave Israelites. Non Israeli slaves are slaved for life
39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves. 40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors. 42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. 43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

47 “‘If a foreigner residing among you becomes rich and any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to the foreigner or to a member of the foreigner’s clan, 48 they retain the right of redemption after they have sold themselves. One of their relatives may redeem them: 49 An uncle or a cousin or any blood relative in their clan may redeem them. Or if they prosper, they may redeem themselves.

SIRTee15:
Flogging is a feature in most master-surbodinate relationship.
Teachers flog students.
Senior officers in military flog the junior ones.
Apprentice are regularly flogged by the boss as part of the training.

Pls don't tell me above has anything to do with slavery.

So what is your point?

MaxInDHouse:
We read to acquire knowledge, knowledge is power and power is the ability to do work so if you're reading but what you are reading can't be channeled to making things work out for great benefits for you and others who are also reading the same stuff what then is the essence of the stuff you're reading?

Please what is the essence of this gibberish to the topic. Not only is this post nonsensical, it has no bearing to the thread

MaxInDHouse:
Good question!
It's not everything you have heard of that you must see before believing rather seeing it's reality in progress as heard is what all wise people need!
You can't tell me that you will start acting only when you see people killing people around you after you've heard about terrorism.

You have a knack of spewing gibberish when you have been caught.
Wtf are you talking about here?

PulsingPurple:
You know how people struggle to understand a word and get the right translation for it, because it's not their original language.
Faith kinda means trusting+believing, when separated, it stands to get mixed up.

So you are insinuated the Bible was mistranslated?

erniok:
The key word is most. What are we arguing again please?
Also, I'm curious to know how you came to this conclusion about Christian's.

You said because someone is a Christian and a terrorist, the terrorism is not caused by being a Christian

Ken4Christ:
But 2nd Corinthians 4:4 calls him the god of this world. I am sure you read it.

So its no more yahweh that is the god?

Inyaky:
And what has light got to do with darkness, christianity is not Islam so keep your stupid opinion to yourself, did the image hurt any one, how come you don't have a problem with other images mumu.

How does an Arabic inscription or a t-shirt bearing Allahu Akbar hurt you?
You christians are dafttt beyond measure

Image123:
There's no Christian that is a sinner. i refer to genuine Christians.

Same way a Muslim would say there's no true Muslim that is a terrorist
Go figure

Image123:
Are you Er?

I'm not. What's your point?

JovialJune:
Make Google your friend, try not to be slow.

Unfortunately I can't find any. If you have, let me see

erniok:
Most do. They mostly shout: allah akbar before the evil act.

I hope you know Muslims say that its not all that shout Allah is great that are muslims. Same way you christians believe its not all that say Lord Lord are Christians

Ken4Christ:
They are both correct.

In a moral sense, God is still the King of the earth. But in a legal sense, Satan is the god of this present world. But that would change very soon. As it is written:

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRIST; and he shall reign for ever and eve

Whats the difference between the moral and legal sense?

Image123:
From a religious and Christian viewpoint, doctrines are not made from one random verse or passage, but established in the mouth of two or more witnesses. The scriptures also engages man to make sure to get wisdom and understanding, prepare for your family and make it fit for you, and be better than an unbeliever in providing for your family. These and many more clearly teach and instruct planning, and being thoughtful. Most of the family planning methods didn't come from hell either, but are developed by people that equally fear and believe in God.
Most hospitals, medical practitioners and doctors in Nigeria pray and believe in God. They are the ones teaching family planning the most. It's also taught in churches. All these can't be called nothing.

So because some doctors are Christians, whatever they teach is biblical? What about christians in the porn industry, or weapon making factories? Can we accept that porn are fine?

StillDtruth:
The bible won't have been out dated if people like you had not being disobedient since Genesis 6

What is this one saying

Image123:
No, family planning is not a sin. God wants us to plan our lives. Action, thought, motive, and attitude are ALL different things. God judges each one. We only see some action and maybe some attitude.

After berating someone for not believing in your retarded ancient book, u turn around and decided not to believe in the same ancient book. The bible clearly stated Yahweh was mad about Er for wasting his sperm and Yahweh even commanded us to multiply. Did you see any family planning posts in the Bible?

EreluRoz:
Nigerians you all are not ready. Keep celebrating Peter Obi who was the MAJOR DISTRACTION in the last election thereby paving way to what we have today.

Peter Obi is actually responsible for what Nigeria is going through but you all are not ready for this discussion, you all are not ready to analyze Nigeria politics with your senses. Ina ruwa na

Still off your meds?
Lets contribute and get u a refill before u go manic

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure of what you just typed or you're talking about my engagement with someone else?

Well these are sincere comments from people who have engaged me in the past:

















But still i am ever ready if you won't become aggressive with your responses!

And I should take their words above my own experience? Wonderful