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Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 9:03pm On Sep 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Your aggression makes you unfit for honest discussions. undecided

This is how i started engaging richmond:


From his comment i see the sincerity so i decide to take him up even though he said a lot of irritating things but i kept on being friendly with him because i have seen something different in him.

So try to do your INVESTIGATIONS it's wrong always accusing people when you don't even know what really happened. It's richmond who first mentioned me and not the other way around! smiley
Who did I accuse?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 9:03pm On Sep 29, 2024
erniok:
So how does it make him a christian terrorist if not the newspaper and your poor attempt to stereotype. Did he confess he killed in the name of christ like extremist muslims do in the name of Allah? Why didn't you call him a grieving terrorist since the report also pointed out he was grieving.
When Muslims blow up people, did you get to ask if they killed in the name of Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 9:01pm On Sep 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I really appreciate your honesty.

That's why i always quote that verse whenever i come in contact with anyone who claims he is an atheist because i'm 100% certain that most people don't really do a thorough investigation they just summed up after hearing some things from different sects claiming Christians and base their conclusion on what those people say.

The Bible God is the one and only true God but since you don't want to investigate further let me tell you how i come to that conclusion.

All humans were born atheists as in we don't know nor believe in any God at birth that's why the Bible said the child in his mother's womb is also a sinner {Psalms 51:5} so it's after we begin to grow up that each person starts to make his or her INVESTIGATIONS on:
• How did life begin?
• Why do innocent people suffer?
• Did God really care about us?
• If He does what is He doing to solve our problems?
• If everyone wants peace why wars everywhere?
• What is God's viewpoint of wars?

Whoever hasn't made INVESTIGATIONS on this topics is just deceiving himself!
So what is your answers to those questions
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:46pm On Sep 29, 2024
JovialJune:
Pls get sense. The thread is about the Olympics and a participant not a religious event

The same Olympics that had the temerity to denigrate the Lord's Supper with an LGBTQ+++++ performance mocking the christian religion and openly displaying a man's diick in the presence of a little child in their Opening Ceremony is who you want to preach to me about shoving religion at people's face, they do not have a problem insulting Christianity but have a problem with the image of Jesus on a surfboard, same France Olympics that is known to be the worst Olympics of all time, pls shift

The Bible already said that many people will deny God just to be politically correct so I'm not surprised you are one of them.
Please can you show me a pic or video where the dicckk was displayed in the ceremony? Don't dodge this question
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:45pm On Sep 29, 2024
yommen:
Yeah, just as the phone you are holding has no maker!
So who made your god
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:43pm On Sep 29, 2024
JovialJune:
So how does the image of Christ on his surfboard affect others?
Its a form of advertisement. You dont need to shout before you advertise
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:40pm On Sep 29, 2024
Heffalump:
This statement of yours has been reaffirmed by the Holy Bible 1000s of years ago.
Indeed, the fool says in his heart "There is no God".
And the wise man shouts its out loud
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 11:06am On Sep 29, 2024
Inyaky:
I'm wondering why they have a problem with the image of christ, if it were a cartoon character or random image or picture they wont talk, the same thing happened to one actress that had a picture of christ on her dress , the image is harmless so what's their problem
Have you seen a muslim use any Arabic quote depicting Islam in sports? You people should keeps your madness to yourselves. This is sports ffs. Keep your religion to yourself. If they allow any religious depictions, the Olympics would be thrown into chaos
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 11:02am On Sep 29, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
Then several days later i saw another Christian post that said, the same Brazilian surfer that was told to remove the image of Jesus from his surf board or risk disqualification, had gotten a near perfect score of 9.90 on day 3 of the surfing competition which was the highest score in Olympic history.

Attached to the post was the iconic photo of the record-breaking moment, which appeared to show the surfer and his board defying gravity and floating parallel to each other on air, with the surfer pointing his finger up to the sky to suggest his attribution of the remarkable feat to God, which was corroborated by his caption of the photo on his Instagram page, which happens to be a popular verse of the Bible, "I can do all things through he (Christ) that strengthens me" Philippians 4:13.

God bless.
This is a photoshop. Has religion deluded you to this point?
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 11:01am On Sep 29, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
Then several days later i saw another Christian post that said, the same Brazilian surfer that was told to remove the image of Jesus from his surf board or risk disqualification, had gotten a near perfect score of 9.90 on day 3 of the surfing competition which was the highest score in Olympic history.

Attached to the post was the iconic photo of the record-breaking moment, which appeared to show the surfer and his board defying gravity and floating parallel to each other on air, with the surfer pointing his finger up to the sky to suggest his attribution of the remarkable feat to God, which was corroborated by his caption of the photo on his Instagram page, which happens to be a popular verse of the Bible, "I can do all things through he (Christ) that strengthens me" Philippians 4:13.

God bless.
Why are you christians quick to lie to promote your religion. Your first post said he walked away from the Olympics. Second post said he was participating and had the highest score
Christianity Etc › Re: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 10:59am On Sep 29, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post

I first saw a viral Christian post on social media about a Brazilian surfer in the Olympics told to remove Jesus from his surfboard or risk disqualification, but he decided to walk away instead.

It was so inspiring to see how yet another Christian defiantly chose to take an unwavering stand for their faith in Christ considering how the tournament held in France had proven to be blatantly fashioned to make a mockery of Christ and Christianity especially via its opening ceremony.

God bless.
I hope you would not run and open a thread where a Muslim has a t shirt with 'Allahu Akbar' on it doing Olympics
You dont bring religion into everything. It causes chaos
That is why I said sone of you christians are brainless
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 7:57am On Sep 29, 2024
Ken4Christ:
But 2nd Corinthians 4:4 calls him the god of this world. I am sure you read it.
Psalm 47:7 ►
For God is the King of all the earth; sing to him a psalm of praise.
So who should I believe?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 1:41pm On Sep 27, 2024
Ken4Christ:
When I say communication language, I mean the manner and ways men of old understand things that affects the way they narrate their stories. Under the Old Testament, everything that happens, good or bad is assumed to come from God. This is why Job said, 'the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh, blessed be the name of the Lord "

You see how his belief affected his communication.

Concerning Satan being the god of this world, it's true. The scripture affirms it:

1st Corinthians 4:4.
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Our Lord Jesus called him the prince of this world thrice:

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Satan got the legal right to rule this world when Adam committed high treason against God. And Jesus came as the last Adam to take it back.

Satan has been defeated but not yet dethroned.
Its stated as Prince of this world, not god.
Btw, you answered one question and dodged the rest. Nice try grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 1:37pm On Sep 27, 2024
Aemmyjah:
1. Is there any similarities with tormenting someone and when the person perish? You're very short sighted in your thinking

2. Are you really sure every translation is saying it or the common ones? That Jehovah would harden Pharaoh heart whilst asking Noses to tell him to release the Israelites is very inconsistent with the scriptures

3. 😂. Go and read about slaves in oriental times. Even slaves had slaves and slaves were released every 7th year

4. Hellfire like Santa like Karma like purgatory like trinity like Christmas all come from philosophies

5. Like your brain came by evolution and chance.
Bible says God made 2 genders or sexes but modern science no longer agrees
Bible help us see that animals and plants reproduce according to their kinds but evolution teaches others
Bible teaches that life comes from life (Biogenesis). Evolution teaches abiogenesis
I am very scientific as I go for proved science
1.There is no difference between the two options, so why did you present them as if they are different?
2.
Lemme show you, so you would shut up.


[b]Bible > Exodus > Chapter 9 > Verse 12
◄ Exodus 9:12 ►

New International Version
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

New Living Translation
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and just as the LORD had predicted to Moses, Pharaoh refused to listen.

English Standard Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Berean Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

King James Bible
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

New King James Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh; and he did not heed them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

New American Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

NASB 1995
And the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

NASB 1977
And the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Legacy Standard Bible
And Yahweh hardened Pharaoh’s heart with strength, and he did not listen to them, just as Yahweh had spoken to Moses.

Amplified Bible
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen or pay attention to them, just as the LORD had told Moses.

Christian Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had told Moses.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had told Moses.

American Standard Version
And Jehovah hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them, as Jehovah had spoken unto Moses.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And LORD JEHOVAH hardened the heart of Pharaoh and he did not listen to them, as LORD JEHOVAH had said to Moshe.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And the Lord hardened Pharao's heart, and he hearkened not to them, as the Lord appointed.

Contemporary English Version
Everything happened just as the LORD had told Moses--he made the king too stubborn to listen to Moses and Aaron.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the Lord hardened Pharao's heart, and he hearkened not unto them, as the Lord had spoken to Moses.

English Revised Version
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
But the LORD made Pharaoh stubborn, so he wouldn't listen to Moses and Aaron, as the LORD had predicted to Moses.

Good News Translation
But the LORD made the king stubborn and, just as the LORD had said, the king would not listen to Moses and Aaron.

International Standard Version
The LORD made Pharaoh's heart stubborn so that he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had told Moses.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

Literal Standard Version
And YHWH strengthens the heart of Pharaoh, and he has not listened to them, as YHWH has spoken to Moses.

Majority Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

New American Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

NET Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had predicted to Moses.

New Revised Standard Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

New Heart English Bible
The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Webster's Bible Translation
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not to them; as the LORD had spoke to Moses.

World English Bible
Yahweh hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he didn’t listen to them, as Yahweh had spoken to Moses.

Young's Literal Translation
And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken unto Moses.

Additional Translations ...
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How many versions did you see here? About thirty something, all saying the same thing. Did you see anything different? No. So shut that your mouth

3. Nice attempt at muddying the water. You said soldiers, nannies, drivers are slaves. How are they slaves? Stop trying to dodge questions

4. Again, poor attempt at muddying the water. Stop dodging questions.
Hell is in the Bible

5. Actually the human brain evolved. It is common knowledge. Our ancestors brain is not like ours both in anatomy and physiology.
And I have drummed into your skull that there are intersexes which are neither males nor females. I guess your Bible doesn't know about them.
Science teaches plants give rise to plants etc.
At this point, I have to declare you are not a biologist, never mind an environmental biologist. Because I cannot fathom how you don't know the basic ideas of biology which is evolution, and how evolution works. I wont refer to you as a biologist again. You are a born liar and fraud
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 1:27pm On Sep 27, 2024
SIRTee15:
Ask your colleague adeniyi65 who seems to think flogging is synonymous with slavery.
Don't ask me.
Flogging is a feature in slavery. Again I don't know why its brought up
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 1:05pm On Sep 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Just as you're reading ATHEISM shey?

Ọmọ it's not just about reading but application for benefits of all involved so if you're reading and there is no benefit then something is wrong somewhere! smiley
Wtf are you talking about
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 1:03pm On Sep 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You didn't read INTELLIGENTLY!

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Faith comes with VIVID EVIDENCE of what is in PROGRESS that you have not seen before so it's not seeing what you haven't seen before that's the evidence rather it's the WORK IN PROGRESS that makes it real to faithful people.

So if you've not seen or heard of a plane before but you've heard about some plans to make it a reality WORK IN PROGRESS should serve as EVIDENCE that it's going to happen just as planned not seeing the aeroplane when it's just in progress! smiley
What great load of gibberish!
So faith is hearing good news about something, and not actually seeing that stuff. So how is it different from what I said?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 1:00pm On Sep 27, 2024
SIRTee15:
I hope know as late as late as early 20th century, it's common practice for employers to flog their workers as part of punishment for wrongdoing. We are not so far removed from the time when physical punishment was administered and accepted by almost everyone as legitimate.
For example, physical chastisements were commonly employed as punishment for crimes committed and for the enforcing of discipline in the military even up till today. Generals flog junior officers as part of punishment in barracks. Even in NYSC camps, soldiers flog graduates as part of punishment; the more u protest the flogging, the more they wack u with koboko until u become humble. Teachers continue to flog stubborn and disobedient students in schools up till today.
In Nigeria, apprentice are flogged regularly if they displease their Masters and it's considered part of the training. Go to factories in Lagos, Lebanese and Chinese boss beats their employee on regular basis for minor things as coming late to work.

Foreign countries are not exempted. In the British Navy, flogging for disobedience or insubordination was common until the mid-19th century, and caning was used until the mid-20th century. In Singapore, flogging is still an official form of punishment for certain crimes such as spitting in public.

I dont really understand this your yapping about flogging. U better thank God the privilege u have that you or your children will not go thru flogging in the hands of an employer in this modern time. People get flogged every day all in a bid to put food on the table for their families.

This your noise about a master beating his slaves in ancient times makes no sense, even workers gets flogged in this modern age.

StillDtruth already explained the verse is about God instituting labour laws to ensure abuse is curtailed and excessiveness is punished.
Besides if u beat your slaves into permanent injury, who will then work the field. Is that not a loss to the master himself.

abeg this one na no be talk, na wokeness and trying to sound politically correct they worry u. Live in the real world man.
So whats your point in all these? Are you saying these conditions are slavery, or what?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 12:55pm On Sep 27, 2024
adeniyi65:
It's like you didn't read my quote that he quoted. If you can't read the whole of Exodus21, at least read the last two verses the reason why they where destroyed is there. If you say it is because of slave trade. What if another person says it's because they do other legal business. Don't let us continue repeating same thing on that. It is clear as snow, read the last two verses.
Obviously you dont haven't interfaced DTruthSpeaker before. He's the sane as StillDtruth, Veecruz, truespeak etc. He doesn't care about facts or logic. He just spouts whatever he wants, wear you out and claim victory at the end: a psychotic
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 12:38pm On Sep 27, 2024
SIRTee15:
Whatever terminology U want to use, the word slavery is very much visible in the laws Moses gave to Israelites. We can't deny it.
I think U should do more reading on the modality of slavery as described in the old testament.
That's what causing the trouble here. People are extrapolating the definition of modern day slavery to ancient times.
Anyway I will write on that later in the day.

If everyone is attacking me, maybe I'm the one giving them hard time on the propaganda they trying to push here
I already made the 3 bible antagonist here admit that bible spoke against slavery, something they all initially denied.
The issue is now what about about verses for slavery.

We already made it clear kidnapping people and selling them in slave market is immoral. So the trans Atlantic slave trade was evil.

I will write on slavery by choice and war victims in the Torah later on.
Please whats the difference between ancient and modern slavery, like us said?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 12:37pm On Sep 27, 2024
StillDtruth:
The question is the justification valid?

And the answer is "NO".

Because slavery is intertwined with Employment and Labour which are Lawfull and Necessary therefore leaving the only reasonable option of pursuing and prosecuting those who are in violation of human rights and Labour Rights and Contract.


So in the end all who say the bible permitted slavery speak foolishly and ignorantly.



Slavery is not in the bible (constitution of Isreal) it is Human Rights, Law of war, Labour Law, Law of Contract etc that is there.

That is why everyone is attacking you because you are not perfectly right.
This guy. How long would you continue to play the ostrich?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 12:36pm On Sep 27, 2024
StillDtruth:
The point is that they practiced slave trade in addition to the usual trade which is normally what evil people do and they were destroyed by God for all their evils including slave trading.

So, its a point and that is why the bible told us.
Where did your god destroy slavers?
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 11:53am On Sep 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Faith has vivid EVIDENCE and it doesn't have to be what you choose to see! undecided
Please read your Bible and stop disgracing yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 11:52am On Sep 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Faith has evidence but since some people have taught you otherwise it will be difficult for you to see that Faith comes with EVIDENCE!
Hebrews 11
Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for


John 20:29
Jesus said unto him, “Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed


Obviously you don't even read your Bible. Faith is based on what is not factual or evident. The Bible says Yahweh wants those that believe without any evidence. So you should believe the Chosen testimonies even if it seems far-fetched, false and have no facts. Just believe
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 11:50am On Sep 27, 2024
Kingsempires:
so your point is that the woman met a lion that waved her goodbye is a true in event so my question;

1)was the lion from the zoo
2)is it that the person went to the zoo and Saw Lion with it demonstration that he/she brought the testimony cheesy

I guess she was trying to narrate a film

so the woman is the second Moses grin


nonsense, do is only lord chosen that miracle is happening angry angry all this their testimony is it not to bring members that is making them to make all this their dream testimony
But u believe in talking donkeys, snakes, bushes etc. You also believe people lived inside whales, and people mass resurrected from the dead.
Education › Re: Manual Labour In School: Did You Dodge This Or Were You There (photo) by jaephoenix(m): 11:31pm On Sep 26, 2024
Zonefree:
OGSSIANS can relate. You must cut a substantial amount of grass before you register for WAEC. It's the tradition.

Well, the late Iwuanyanwu's son was the first student to break the tradition. His father hired labourers to help him cut grass. Principal wan craze.
So u r an Ogssian? What yr?
Politics › Re: SGF Lists Tinubu’s Achievements Ahead Independence Celebration by jaephoenix(m): 7:34pm On Sep 26, 2024
CyrusVI:
cheesy

One has to be mentally dumb and very dishonest to conclude that PBAT isnt and hasnt been doing much

Evidence full everywhere, Proofs full ground, na just these Economic reforms make the whole thing be like this

We are almost there tho. A peep into the future will give you a wide smile

God Bless PBAT
Its not the seriously stupid post I'm worried about, its the cretards that liked your post. Truly, this corntree is doomed
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 4:34pm On Sep 26, 2024
Ken4Christ:
God didn't go to Satan. Read the encounter below;

Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and SATAN CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. note

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. note

12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. SO SATAN WENT FORTH FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD.

Verse 6 says, 'SATAN CAME ALSO AMONG THEM'.
While verse 12 said, 'SO SATAN WENT FORTH FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD'.

So, let's agree on this first before I go further to debunk your other claims.
Whether he came to Satan or Satan came to him, you know the point we made. Stop dancing around it
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 4:33pm On Sep 26, 2024
Ken4Christ:
Response to Point No 1.

First, the communication language of centuries back and now are not the same.

Second, God couldn't stop Satan from afflicting Job because Satan was legally the god of this world. This is why God told Satan, "..all that he hath is in thy power..(Job 1:12).

The only way God could have stopped Satan is if there was a covenant between Him and Job.

Third, it was Job himself who opened the door for attack on his life through fear:

Job 3:25 For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.

Digest this one first.
WTF DID I JUST READ?
1. What do you mean the communication language changed? Be explicit
2. So satan is the god of this world and not Yahweh again? I hopes your fellow Christians won't stone you for this heresy. So Yahweh created Satan, gave him power, and lost control over him?
Btw, wasn't is Yahweh that actually told Satan to attack Job? It was clearly written there he taunted Satan to attack Job
3. Which fear? The verse you quoted said that Job was afraid of the future. This is the complete verse
"… have no peace, no quietness;
I have no rest, but only turmoil"

So stop twisting the story to suit your narrative
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 4:22pm On Sep 26, 2024
Aemmyjah:
1. To believe in Jesus is a choice right?
Did everyone believe in him?
Even some who believe in him betrayed him and left him
The Bible said [b]perish or to be destroyed[/b]

2. God did not harden Pharaoh heart as that will make him share in what happened and a sadist. Pharaoh was an arrogant king and blasphemer and wicked and saw himself as a god. Why would he want yield to an invisible God of his semitic slaves? God allowed his heart to be stubborn
Poor Bible translations say God hardened his heart

3. Be reasonable. It was not God's plan in the begining. But he allowed it as was common among the orientals but slaves were never mistreated. If we were to equate it, even your househelp, your nanny, your cook, your drive, your gatekeeper is a slave. The army is a slave, etc


4. God does not torture anyone in hellfire. Hellfire is not a Bible teaching

5. Science says that the universe and life came by chance, or by chaos or by evolution or by mindless process or accident. Religious people believe that life and the universe is a product or the mind. Can anything that came by chaos have a purpose?
God evidence of his existence is clearer than sunlight but blind minded people like you will not see
1. What does the highlighted mean? You have started this… gibberish
2. Every Bible translation EXCEPT your own says Yahweh hardened Pharaoh's mind. By the way, where did your sect translate your Bible from? Also what exactly did your translation say?
3. The difference is this. The slaves advocated in your Bible were abducted from their homes, often beaten, made to work against their will, cannot decide to become free, are not paid etc. Can my maid, cook decide to stop work? Yes. Are they paid ?Yes. Can I beat them without going to prison for assault? Yes. Are soldiers paid? Yes. Were they forced to become soldiers? No
See, all this dancing around you guys are doing, won't help your cause. Even the blind can see u r out of your depth in this one
4. There are many verses of hellfire in the Bible. You can twist it all you want, but its there
5. Science says that the universe and life came by chance, and by evolution. And there are evidences which I have given you several times
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 4:05pm On Sep 26, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Don't be ridiculous
You know the history of Santa Claus
Dont be ridiculous. Many people still believe in Santa Claus.
So please answer my question
Christianity Etc › Re: Ghosts- Unbelievable True Life Stories by jaephoenix(m): 4:00pm On Sep 26, 2024
StoryHaven:
It doesn't matter I believe or what you believe. Whether I believe in a thing or not it doesn't disprove the existence of what exists.

Argument with an atheist is a frutile effort because his mind is made up even to disagree with facts and truth.
Its a simple question. No need dancing around it.
Lemme repeat.
DO YOU BELIEVE I HAVE A RED DRAGON? Yes or no

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