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TenQ:
Did that change the fact that I never saw oxygen gas?

Well u lied. Cos we showed u oxygen. You have added dishonesty to your numerous vices

Ilamina:


They just told us lies
So we will live good lives and not commit crimes

And too maintain our relationship with the West

Are you just realizing

WeirdAlien:
I just gave you two popular explanations for the beginning. God. Big Bang.


This is where you said "your god" to me.

Which god? There's thousands of those

Wilgrea7:
lots of bold texts and yelling.. and still you've said nothing. I'm telling you not to have presumptions in the first place because they are based on a false idea, and you're ranting about how I should try to refute your false presumptions.. instead of you not just having them in the first place.




a-theism.. it's literally in the name. Look it up in any dictionary too. It's not "my" definition. I'm just defining the word based on what it literally means... from the name.. and trying to dispel the multiple wrong misconceptions people like you have about it.




Attack muslims in what sense? And in what sense do we attack christians? if criticism of your belief, which like i said, directly affects the society i live in is seen as an attack to you, on you, then you're the one who's not seeing things clearly.





In what way have i applied my actions to one area? Here's a list of some of my posts.

1. Why You Should Absolutely Question "God"
2. If You Have A Personal Relationship With God, Why Do You Need Holy Books?
3. Theists, Prove YOUR God Exists

and there's more. How are these questions, or these threads geared at only christianity or the christian god?

Like I said about DTruthSpeaker….

StillDtruth:
Many. Many have come and gone.



Off point!



Off point!

As your brother Willy has said only you are not the whole of atheists.

Please answer the question. How many muslim posts are in religion. Compare that to Christian

StillDtruth:
I like public. And i know you are in Lagos i"m in Lagos now, is today convenient?

Public? No bro. I don't want people to know about my beliefs. Considering the society we are in, patients don't like atheists and wouldn't want anything to do with an atheist doctor.
So I'm good with virtual

chatinent:
I need the evidence.

You go wait tire

obonujoker:
Even the medical sciences, is it not God given brains and methods they are using??

So in the end, all glory goes back to God

Actually science exists despite your god. I hope u know science and religion don't mix. And no, the knowledge in science couldn't have been given by a god since such knowledge aids in subjugating religion and god

Mariangeles:
No, science can't!

The GOD that I serve has done that, and so much more!
And there are evidence to prove it.

There are drugs that cause remission of cancer and HIV cells. A search of the internet coulda straightened you out, but u r a theist, u don't deal in facts. By the way, u haven't provided any evidence of your god doing anything

brain54:
Make you try dey translate small o...

This one too heavy.



Na only "devil take me..." Or something like that I understand there!

She's saying shame to devil and his angels/group etc

Mariangeles:
Can medical science cure HIV and different types of cancers?
Una go wail taya!

We're just getting started.
Y'all ain't seen nothing yet!

JESUS CHRIST REIGNS OVER THE EARTH!
WE'RE TAKING OVER!

Yeah, science can cure HIV and some cancers. But your god can do neither

chatinent:
Go on any Facebook ad displaying maybe a person who's about to be amputated and prolly needing donations for medical care, you'd see Nigerians all over the comment sections saying things like:

"Hurry, join the 7am NSSPD live stream and place your hand on the tv and you'll be healed."

"Take the child to Redeem Church Ojota behind flyover, and join any of their services. God will descend on you."


"Pray this prayer and you will be healed: god, recover my leg today.' Say it 72 times with faith "



I mean, what is all this!

The person needs financial assistance of probably ₦3m and you have nothing to offer but religious stereotypes, when you could have just sent a lil support in cash.

They know its only bullshit they can offer. They secretly know those advice don't work but are quick to offer it.
I met a man coming back from church(he was clutching a Bible). He begged me for money and said, "Sir, I'm very rich, I need some money, even if its tp to go home". I replied him"The lord whom you faithfully serve has already made you rich. Amen"! and started walking away. The dude held me and said "Sir its not like that nah, please help me". I shrugged him off and continued my way

StillDtruth:
Oh, so because you defined it, you are right and your definition is True and cannot be comtradicted? Because you are the god of atheism god of all abi?

You think too much of yourself!

I will tell you what i told your mad brother

"You think people are blind like you? Think people don't see that you people do not really attack muslims?

Did you not hear that actions speaks louder than words?




Can be applied is not the same as applied.

And by your.actions you have only applied it to one area.

So, clearly, you have impliedly admitted and confessed that you have only attacked christians and their God as your threads even prove.

As i can attack is not the same as i.attacked so also Can be applied is not the same as applied.

How many Muslims topics have you seen on Nairaland religion section? And how many Muslims have you seen attack atheists? Didnt you see my posts in was arguing with a Muslim who said Islam is scientifically correct? In fact you made a post on that thread

Wilgrea7:
I literally just defined what atheism is.. and your best rebuttal is "nuh uh" ..

Dude.. seriously..



Laughably false. And the idea that atheists hate a god that they don't believe to exist is simply not the case.

Go check my posts. Most of my rebuttals to religion and gods can be applied to multiple religions.. especially the Abrahamic ones (including islam).

Also, we live in societies that are controlled or directly influenced by certain specific beliefs. In Nigeria, those beliefs would be Christianity or Islam.. overall the Abrahamic religion. Hence the criticism of the respective faiths.

Again, this is Dtruthspeaker. You're better off debating with a brick wall

Wilgrea7:
Feel free to mention them so they can be aware of the thread

Its prolly Maxindhouse or his sidekick Aemmyjah he's expecting. His favorite nairalanders

StillDtruth:
Stop talking nonsense. You atheists are the king of unfair and dishonest debates Taking advantage of the fact that in the past most christians where not prepared that atheists had come to nairaland to attack them and neother did thry not know the rules of debate therefore you bullied and arm.twisted them.

But now, we are prepared and have engaged with you and you.have lost and are losing is why you are complaining and making unnecessary noises about the very same rules you yourselves violate like this your mad brother just did now now now!

Re: Atheists- Gather Here And Answer This Simple Question � by jaephoenix(m): 9:29am
StillDtruth:
Do i not know you? And do i not know how you ask questions perpetually? Is this how permanently mad and stupid you shall always be for the rest of your cursed life? Mtchew
Oh so you know me. But as you can see, I answered his questions and asked mine. So I guess you don't know me, idiot
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Re: Atheists- Gather Here And Answer This Simple Question � by StillDtruth: 10:46am
jaephoenix:
Oh so you know me. But as you can see, I answered his questions and asked mine. So I guess you don't know me, idiot

See how you have changed topic thereby.proving that you are permamently mad and perpetually stupid. Fool!

See how he changed post because he could not counter, and this is one of the violations you people do yet you are making noise.

Whenever you people are ready to debate fairly, we are here for you.

I can even put up a N50,000 for us to have a public debate, judged on rules of debate to show that YOU ATHEISTS HAVE NO THING. ONLY LIES!

Aha! So where can we have this debate. I'll double the money to 100k. Lets see who blinks. Please get a venue, preferably online. And make it public so people can view.
Guys see how this one would run

WeirdAlien:
I've not mentioned that I believe in God. Why do you assume I do. You're also guilty of what you accused others of.

You mentioned god there.

WeirdAlien:
Okay

Now it is logical for everything to have a beginning.
So if you don't believe God is the beginning, and you don't believe it's the big bang. Tell us your views about how it all started.

People assume (probably erroneously) an atheist believe in big bang because that is the only (known) alternative explanation to the creation of the universe. If there is any other alternative you know, kindly educate others. Thanks.

Personally, I don't know the beginning. But I know evolution is facts because the evidence is real. I think Big Bang seems correct but it still doesn't tell us the beginning of the universe.
So if you say everything was created and it was your god, then who made your god? Surely everything should have a creator?
And why do you think irs your specific god?

LordTheus:
Intellectually, they're all impoverished. However, I honestly think TenQ is actually the best of these incompetent bunch in my observation of the arguments that occur here. Among the theists, he's like the one eyed man in the midst of the blind. He's terribly ignorant, and his logic is poor. Yes, he can be dishonest, but I've noticed that there can be a little tinge of sincerity in the way he argues sometimes. The rest of them are either just plain mentally retarded_, or unstable, or dishonest, or a combination of all three. And the worst part is that they wear their mental retardation in public like a badge of honor.

Yeah TenQ seems a lil bit savvier than the bunch here but all in all very dishonest. Just ask him if a god exists and watch all the verbal gymnastics unfold in front of you

StillDtruth:
See how you have changed topic thereby.proving that you are permamently mad and perpetually stupid. Fool!

Lol. How did I change topic? The topic was you think i would not answer his questions. But I proved I did. Do you see how stupid you are?

Righteousness2:
The way devil is subtlely dealing with people in these last of the last days is fearful.

What you think or how you think does not matter when it comes to GOD and HIS Word.

The thoughts and ways of GOD are not the ways and thoughtsof men
The Foolishness of GOD is Wiser than the Wisest of men.

Drop your Sense! Follow GOD and HIS Word so the devil does not mess you up and lead you to offend the HOLY GHOST.

In other words, don't ask questions. Do whatever you're told even when it sounds stupid or dangerous. Just do it! Like Nike

jflower06:
Moses never misinterpreted God.
Pharaoh kept/ obeyed one of the commandments of God religiously.So God hardened his heart so as to go against the commandment.
Honour thy father and thy mother..........

What r u talking about

Daejumong:
God did not harden the heart of Pharaoh, Moses wrongly interpreted God’s message!

Exodus 4:21
21 The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go

God is too righteous to treat a man He created in his own image like that- harden his heart unto destruction! Never! The God , Jesus , presented to us will never do such and He does not change!

Also, God is too powerful to need the approval or otherwise of Pharaoh to let the Israelites go! He can easily kill him in his sleep, He can teleport the Israelites if He wants . He is almighty!

Ezekiel 18: 23 “Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD . Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live.

Many times God reveals things to us but the way we present it or put it in writing may be a little bit different because our human nature and thinking may sometimes get in the way! This is what I think happened to Moses!

Right.
1. So how do you know this? You weren't there, only good ol' Mo was there, yet to distrust and second guess his word.
2. So you mean Yahweh's trust was misguided? You mean Yahweh in his infinite wisdom cannot get someone more trustworthy than Mo?
3. I suppose you're a Christian. So an omniscient and omnipotent god can't correct Mo's misjudgment knowing he's gonna impact billions of lives?
4. So what other 'misunderstandings' occur in the Bible we should know about since you know what actually happened

StillDtruth:
Do i not know you? And do i not know how you ask questions perpetually? Is this how permanently mad and stupid you shall always be for the rest of your cursed life? Mtchew

Oh so you know me. But as you can see, I answered his questions and asked mine. So I guess you don't know me, idiot

LordReed:
LoLz. The thread is about a basic definition of atheism and the dolt still manages to mess it up in the same thread. Stupidity doesn't appear clearer than that.

Dtruthspeaker doesn't bother about definitions. He, like Maxindhouse, have their own definitions of concepts which are completely different from the norm. I don't bother with him. His delusions drive him. Not reality

LordTheus:
Bro trust me. Nairaland ain't what it used to be. At least, back then we had intelligent Christians willing to engage in honest debate. The theists on these threads nowadays aren't worth the effort. Irredeemably stupid and unashamedly dishonest. You really think they care about honest debate? They're more concerned about making themselves look good, even if they actually have no points to make.

Its just the way they are. There is this particular one TenQ that is unashamedly dishonest. He claims he can't see oxygen but we have shown him the picture of oxygen, but he ignores it. Then the JW crew consisting of Maxindhouse and Aemmyjah. They unashamedly say all the accusations against JW of child molest.ation are all lies. You can inagine

StillDtruth:
Secondly, it is seen that many many atheist stand and support evolution with one or 2 atheists surprising us that they don't.

And people operate more witb the general anf popularity because the general outweighs the particular, so you cannot expect any opponent to stop and ask each and every atheists he meets "do you believe in evolution"? Exactly you a Nigerian sends a message to a whitee, he/she cannot expect nor know whether you are a scammer.

That is why we have something called "presumption" and in law it is called "rebuttable presumption"

So, if you are an atheist and you do not velieve in evolution, then you are duty bound to plead it, if you want people to act on it and take it in in their dicussion with you.

And please tell those your 2 stupid brothers to stop being foolish for they know or ought to that if they saw several muslims running towards their direction with cutlasses they would run away presuming that the muslims are out to kill again and not wait to see whether they are heading somewhere else and do not care about them.

Just like assuming every black man is a Nigerian, or every Christian is a catholic. Shows how smart you are

StillDtruth:
Correction.

It is atheism is refusal, not lack, but a clear refusal to believe in God, specifically, God, Who took Isreal as His own and showed Himsellf aa revealed through the bible and history and things we see/have seen, which even after all these clear evidence, they still refuse to acknowledge the Authority of God.

And not "a god".

Atheists do not have much issues with allah, nor do they remember nor care about, ogun, sango, krishna etc.

Your hatred is directed to only One God; The.True God, Ruler of heaven and earth.

You're just a complete dolt!
1. Which evidence do you have about the existence of your god?
2. And why do you think atheists don't have any issues with Allah? Do you even know the definition of atheism?

TenQ:
His claim:
"I slept in a grave yard and I didn't see any ghosts"!
His conclusion:
"Ghosts do not exist!"


My claim:
"I have been breathing for so long now and I have never seen Oxygen gas"!
My conclusion:
"Oxygen does not exist!"



My intention is NEVER to talk about justification or not for ghosts or spirits, my intention was to show how dumb his argument was!
I have done that!

Sorry!

… yet we showed you pictures of oxygen.
Are you this dense?

jesusjnr2020:
"Nomads Of Yahweh": 3400-Year Old Egyptian Inscription Proves Bible True

Man discovers the oldest inscription yet of "Yahweh", the God of the Israelites, in Egypt.

Watch Video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNNiUIYpiA?si=0zbd4TiGy5Skfv6Y

So I did my little research on this subject and got this….

This video refers to a pair of Egyptian inscriptions, one from Soleb (during the reign of Amenhotep III) and the other from Amarah West (during the reign of Ramses II). Both inscriptions include the word yhwʒ in a list making reference to the land of the “shasu”-people. The “Shasu” (see R. Giveon, Les Bédouins Shosou des documents égyptiens, Leiden 1971) basically occupy the semantic niche of “nomads”.

David Caliban has quoted the relevant line (which appears in both lists), but here is a fuller list from one of the inscriptions to give some sort of idea of the context in which that line stands:

Amarah West, Ll. 93–98:

tʒ šʒśw ś‘rr , i.e. land of the Shasu: Seir
tʒ šʒśw rbn , i.e. land of the Shasu: l/r-b-n
tʒ šʒśw pyspʒys , i.e. land of the Shasu: P-y-s-p-y-s
tʒ šʒśw śmt , i.e. land of the Shasu: S-m-t
tʒ šʒśw yhwʒ , i.e. land of the Shasu: Y-h-w-ʒ
tʒ šʒśw (t)rbr , i.e. land of the Shasu: (T)-l/r-b-l/r

Assuming that ś‘rr is correctly identified as “Seir”, a mountain in Edom to the South of Palestine, then it would be a good working hypothesis that in every line the final word is a toponym. Toponym means a place name, especially one derived from a topographical feature. Some of the other words could be identified as toponyms (e.g. rbn could be the town “Laban” at Dt. I 1), but none of these identifications are truly certain. For that matter, one could challenge the identification of ś‘rr as “Seir”. All the same, it is impossible on current evidence to refute the proposition that yhwʒ is a toponym because there is no certain identification of any of these words as something other than a toponym; and there is absolutely zero evidence in these inscriptions that yhwʒ is a theonym (which is what we really do need to identify yhwʒ as the Tetragrammaton, i.e. YHWH — see below).

Next, while yhwʒ certainly does appear to stand orthographically close to the Tetragrammaton (i.e. YHWH), there can be no certaintly that it really is the same word. The chief problem has to do with the notation of vowels both in ancient Hebrew and in ancient Egyptian — the signs for some consonants could be used to represent vowels, in particular — you guessed it – “y”, “h”, “w” and “ʒ” (this last is the glottal stop, i.e. “aleph” in Hebrew). The use of these signs to indicate vowels both in Hebrew and in Egyptian is irregular and in particular in Egyptian highly inconsistent; and unless the name in question is certainly known, we have no way of telling if we should read any given one of these signs as a consonant (i.e. /y/, /h/, /w/, or /’/) or as a vowel — and given how ludicrously inconsistent the Egyptians are when writing vowels, if they write them at all, almost any vowel could be indicated by any of those signs). I.e. /yahwe/, /’ihu’/, /yewi/, or /yihawe’a/ as well as two dozen other things are equally good resolutions of those four letters. The orthographical resemblance to the Tetragrammaton could just be dumb coïncidence.

Third, there is no semantic link between the two forms: the Tetragrammaton is a theonym, whereas there is a good chance that yhwʒ is a toponym. If there were a semantic link — i.e. if it were clear that yhwʒ was a theonym – then the case for identifying it with the Tetragrammaton would immediately grow much stronger.

Next, the Shasu were nomads on the periphery of Egypt, and the name appears to be a generic one: i.e. the name is used to describe people to the South of Egypt in Nubia, people to the West of Egypt in Libya, people in Syria far to the Northeast of Egypt, and (possibly) people on the Sinai Peninsula to the East of Egypt. If we locate those particular Shasu which are connected with yhwʒ on the Sinai Peninsula (and the only way to do so would be to accept the identification of ś‘rr as “Seir” — and this seriously undercuts any interpretation of yhwʒ as a theonym) so as to get them somehow close to where we might expect the people of Israel to be in the time period in question, then I would suggest that the wish is becoming father to the thought.

For all of these reasons I personally would hold off on identifying yhwʒ with the Tetragrammaton for simple want of evidence beyond orthographical resemblance. First, orthographical resemblance (esp. in this case) need not imply phonological closeness; second, there is no ascertainable semantic connection; third, there is no way certainly to establish a geographical connection.

All that said, the biblical evidence which we have for the worship of YHWH does indicate that the worship of this deity was not limited to the people of Israel. Other tribes on the Sinai Peninsula (e.g. the Qenites) appear to have worshipped this deity, and the reference in the Song of Deborah to YHWH’s having gone forth from Mt. Seir does suggest that at least some people in Edom worshipped this deity as well. So, yes, if these particular Shasu who are connected with yhwʒ really are to be located on the Sinai Peninsula, then they might have worshipped this deity whose name could have been used toponymically or perhaps ethnically… But, once again, I would suggest that the wish is here becoming father to the thought.
So long story short, this discovery is not set in stone(pun intended)

Aemmyjah:
Unconscious creation right?
That's not creation
That's criminal and a violation of medical ethics
Why not try it on your own children


If I give someone a tablet that could harm him, I have created something right?

1. Yes one can create some stuff unconsciously or unknowingly. Many of the food, dress, scientific discoveries etc were unconscious or unintended
2. Your level of idiocy is phenomenal. I literally told you about drug reactions in that post as a type of iatrogenic disease. Can a doctor know if a patient reacts to drugs? No one knows if he or she reacts to a particular drug or class of drugs, unless when he/she takes it. Neither does the doc. That's why we take drug history or allergy history. We keep anti-allergic drugs around in crash carts just in case

Kingsempires:
Were stilltruth dey. He opened thread but his not talking

Hes a psychopath