₦airaland Forum

CodeTemplar:
Your are trying to separate the lecturers salary from the fund that goes into subsidizing the students. That's against the principle of accounting and economics.

for the umpteenth time the 57k is the number of students not the cost of educating one student


Jesus see brain

CodeTemplar:
Sorry for calling you a boy. You are a kid.
How can you separate the lecturers salary from the money that goes into educating the students. Who are the lecturers imparting knowledge on? Your accounting skills are pathetic.

how did I separate lecturers money when I calculated it as part of the 11b? you are one confused fellow!!!

the 57k I mentioned is the number of students not the cost of educating 1student!!! Jesus do I have to open your brain?

CodeTemplar:
Your ignorance is appalling. The point of contention here is the average cost of educating a public uni grad per year and not how the fund is shared for various expenses. It cost 275,000 to educate the average UNILAG grad and the VC puts the optimum value at N1.2m, you guys are always whining about 600k or 850k private school that provides those thongs your vc is demanding N1.2m for.

You couldn't challenge my factual link and had to resort to misinterpreting it to make irrelevant arguments. Admit that University education cost a food fortune and CU isnt over charging anyone or shortchanging the poor. It is so glaring from my submission.

lol see who is talking about ignorance.

how do you intend to compare both schools without taking into account the number of students in each school and their yearly budget?

I've analysed the budget of unilag for 2017 using the number of lecturers and non teaching staffs and likely cost of salary, utility bills, maintainance, research equipments, office expenses, etc.

all for 57,000 students of unilag
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos


prove to me you are not the ignorant one and do an estimate for CU that has 15000 students

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_University

you claim to be working on facts and you are not close to the system yet to u can't give me links to support your wild claims.

tell me how unilag will take care of 57k students and 3k staffs with 11b and have 1b left for a beautiful stadium in one year!!!

CodeTemplar:
Stop talking trash boy. Seems you know about UNILAG in 2018 more than the VC.
The figure for UI is even higher for UI at 430k per student each year. now compare facilities in 430k UI (excluding tuition oh) and a Landmark Uni that charges 600,000.

lol what is this illiterate saying? and you are calling me a boy. unilag has 57k students both under and postgraduate. that is what in saying!!! argue the cost of salaries and all those other things I stated up there and give an objective opinion of how the school will still have billions left after all those expenses!!! you call someone a boy yet you have comprehension issues

CodeTemplar:
Which school has 57k total and how much is their allocation from govt? Is it UI or UniLag? I await your response.

unilag had 57k as at 2013. note that the number increases gradually each year so 2018 is definitely more

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos

on a budget of 11b yearly with my analysis up there staff salaries alone will take at least 4b yearly!!!

now tell me the school won't be lucky to to have 2b left after other expenses!!!

CodeTemplar:
Stop the LIES. You divided N300bn b by 40 but your brain should prompt you that all unis don't get equal amount.
Or am I suppose to take you words over Okebukola's or UNILAG VC's? Stop the LIES!

don't forget to add the cost of maintaining classrooms too your ignorance is baffling

57k students in total and you want to educate them with 11b yearly. what a joke

CodeTemplar:
Stop the LIES. You divided N300bn b by 40 but your brain should prompt you that all unis don't get equal amount.
Or am I suppose to take you words over Okebukola's or UNILAG VC's? Stop the LIES!

lol see this from your own link

My position is that if there ’s a choice between free education and good education at all levels , I choose the latter . It requires N 1. 2 million on the average to thoroughly teach a properly accredited course in the university . With the population of about 40 ,000 at UNILAG , we require N 48 billion per annum . We are able to attract about N10 billion or N 11 billion from the Federal Government

if you want to use that 11b

removed salaries of all lecturers in unilag akoka and college of medicine for a whole year.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Lagos

there are almost 1200 lecturers in unilag from that write up. if an average lecturer earns 250,000 in salaries (note that professors earn at least 450k without allowances so average of 250k for all lecturers without their allowances is very very fair). 250k*1200 that's 300m on lecturer salaries alone monthly!!! 3.6b yearly


remove salary of office staffs (typists and co), security men, cleaners, porters, lab assistants, drivers, etc. I can't speculate much on this but let's give it 100m monthly and 1.2b yearly

remove cost of electricity and internet for offices, cost of printers, inks and papers, etc

remove the cost of computers for departmental and faculty offices yearly. note that my dad has not received a laptop or desktop computer from his department in over 3years!!! he's using his personal computers.

remove cost of maintaining staff quarters. the lecturers pay highly discounted rents. I stay in a four bedroom flat in a serene environment at less than 1/2 of what it will cost if I rented the same apartment outside.

remove the cost of maintaining student hostels and paying for hostel security, cleaning, etc.

remove the cost of buying research equipments and chemicals for sciences, health sciences, engineering and co.

note that I was in luth idi araba between 2007 and 2011. we used 5-10yr old microscopes in the faculty of pharmacy, idi araba. both faculty of pharmacy and department of pharmacology didn't have freeze drier I had to oven dry my fruit juice for my research in 2011 and I got lesser result than using the fresh fresh fruit juice cos heat destroyed most of the active constituents.

go to faculty of science and engineering and see engineering equipments that should have been replaced 10yrs ago lying down useless


after all those costs I listed up there there's barely nothing left for infrastructure!!!

stop arguing blindly!!!

now tell me how unilag can afford to spend the whole 11b on infrastructures when all it's income goes to TSA!!! the school will be lucky to have 1b left for new buildings at the end of the year!!!

CodeTemplar:
https://m.guardian.ng/features/education/balancing-rhetoric-and-action-in-varsity-funding/

In addition to the above google about Federal University funding In Nigeria And stop the LIES.

lol I told you im technically an insider and you are still arguing blindly.

2017 budget for education was less than 500b naira
http://www.tribuneonlineng.com/budget-2017-sad-story-nigerias-education/


shared between universities, COEs, polytechnics and federal unity schools

40 federal universities in Nigeria. see list here

https://www.dailyschoolnews.com.ng/federal-universities-in-nigeria/

21 federal polytechnics

https://www.nigeriaschool.com.ng/federal-polytechnics-in-nigeria/

21 federal colleges of education

https://www.nigeriaschool.com.ng/federal-polytechnics-in-nigeria/

37 federal unity schools in Nigeria

https://www.myschoolgist.com/ng/federal-government-unity-schools-in-nigeria/


universities can't get up to 300b out of the 500b. what is 300b/40 unis?

let's give 200b to 21 COEs, 21 polytechnics and 37 unity schools to share.

first let's start will salary for teaching and non-teaching staffs of all the almost 100 federal higher instructions. can you imagine how much their salaries will be?

how about the salaries of those in the ministry education in Abuja and the various liaison offices in 36 states they won't work for free!!!

how about the cost of paying pensioners? note that salary and pension come directly from the ministry of education.


now tell me how much do you think is left for the federal government to share for the institutions to execute projects of their own desire?

also take note that students payments and all sort of income for the institutions nowngo directly to the FG's TSA. even if you want to pay unilag 500naira you'll pay with TSA so the universities are not earning a penny in their personal accounts.


occasionally the FG releases money for new infrastructure and maintenance of old ones and also for utility bills (power and the super fast unilag internet connection I use every weekend).

but on the average unilag gets less than 2b naira yearly for infrastructure both maintenance and building of new ones!!! where did you get your own 11b from?

i'm talking as an insider

if you can identify lies in my post prove me wrong

btw don't call me a liar next time except you are 101% sure

CodeTemplar:
Most of those unis get 11bn Naira annually and have little to show for it.

Another school getting less than 6 billon Naira is building stadiums and have good infrastructure.

lol which federal university gets 11b annually? if you are not in the system stop making assumptions!!! i'm not in the system either but I come from a family of career lecturers (unilag and UI).

according to my dad ABUAD is currently getting more funding than Unilag. he was in ABUAD for 2yrs on sabbatical and he testified to how much private universities are investing in equipments for research and infrastructures.

no federal university gets 11b annually!!!

nkwuocha1:


Lol.Seems gays are now endangered species in the SW.
This guy need to take a full igbotic meal in a month and he won't have this problem again.I keep saying it,drinking palm oil stew with cattarh inducing pepper will never make "them" look healthy.Just take a look at how a grown man such as this is looking like a Somalian.

keep making a fool of yourself

Guyman02:
I know that it must be brown roof republic Muslims. You hardly see northern Muslim ladies attracting unnecessary public attention to themselves because they have more dignity than the loud mouthed brown roofers.

Last time it was hijab controversy in Osun State, then it went to Law School call to bar by one of their female fundamentalist and now it is the music of one of Falz.
The ignoramus is talking as if Muslims came to Yorubaland before Ifa worshippers who owned the land.
Mental slavery is a serious illness.

you are brain dead. there is nothing in her post that shows she's Yoruba. there are Muslim women in the south east too. there are educated northern Muslim women on Twitter too.

but as a foolish bigot you decided to disgrace your generation with this high score of stupidity.


congrats on your record breaking foolishness

were

fallout87:
Intelligent and well thought out message from a president who has wished the best for Nigeria.

A president who didn't try to intimidate or jail APC members and Buhari to keep them from election..

A president who believed so much in democracy he didn't even challenge his loss, called and congratulated Buhari.. even though there was significant proof of rigging in the north...

A president who didn't want any bloodshed.. unlike the murderous fundamentalist Buhari who started rampage killings with his bitter utterances every time he lost in the past.

when APC data centers were raided and the only things DSS found were computers that wasn't intimidation? what was the DSS expecting to find in data centers other than computers?

when tinubu was dragged before cct in a bid to jail him ahead of 2015 they wasn't intimidation?

when buhari's plane was barred from landing the wasn't intimidation?

when Jonathan deployed soldiers for ekiti election in 2014 against court ruling that soldiers should not be deployed that wasn't intimidation?

when amaechi was stopped by soldiers from entering ekiti prior to 2014 ekiti election that wasn't intimidation?

when a certain patience Jonathan slapped a sitting governor because demolished buildings in okrika that wasn't intimidation?

when patience Jonathan blocked everywhere in port Harcourt and stopped a sitting governor from moving around freely that wasn't intimidation?

when rivers state jet was grounded in early 2014 for no just reason that wasn't intimidation?

when APC party agents were all arrested the night before ekiti election that wasn't intimidation?

when the police backed by the FG shot at supporters of APC during their campaign rally in rivers state that wasn't intimidation?

when DSS stormed a printing press in late 2014 to seize a book written to criticise Jonathan that wasn't intimidation?

when DSS stopped the circulation of a news paper that published a report against Jonathan that wasn't intimidation?

when soldiers were stationed outside tinubu's house instead sambisa forest where they belong that wasn't intimidation?

when soldiers shot at and beat up fuel subsidy protesters in 2012 that wasn't intimidation?

Jonathan and his minions like you must think we've forgotten how he intimidated the opposition while he was in power.

Buhari hasn't done 30% of all these and you are all screaming dictator. those that are being tried in court didn't they collect money that doesn't belong to them? so why will you call it intimidation when they are dragged to court?


Jonathan can only fool those that have been blinded by hate for PMB. he can't fool reasonable Nigerians like me. never!!!

three:
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They are on their way to oblivion,

These APC years will forever be remembered as the years of deceit

Fuel is now N145 (officially) from N67

APC rode on "Nothing like Fuel Subsidy" only to get into power and pay more subsidy than the previous government.

On the tolls, When the tolls were removed a highway maintenance surcharge was introduced...

DO THEY PLAN TO REDUCE FUEL PRICE?

If APC Buhari Tinubu and Co tell the truth will they die?!


http://www.thescoopng.com/2017/09/26/obasanjo-fashola-toll-gates/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/03/fuel-subsidy-at-n774-million-daily-says-nnpc-boss/

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so fuel was 67 naira in 2015? some of you just come here and make a fool of yourselves under the guise of expressing your opinion

BiafraIShere:
I have justified the money spent on my education a million times over, but same cannot be said of you based on your sad situation in real life. Innoson is doing the best thing he ought to do by telling the world how fraudulent GTB bank is, at least others would be wary of their transaction with GTB so they wont be a victim to their fraud. Yes, GTB has refused to go to the press because they know they are wrong, and the last they did, it only backfired against them big time when they were seriously condemned by well meaning Nigerians even based on their own account! Stop defending fraud because of tribal sentiments!!

yet GTB responded just once days after your innoson ran to the media like a cry baby but you used the word hastily to qualify GTB's response go and buy a dictionary. illiterate

BiafraIShere:
Look at this mofo, I know you are an illiterate who does not understand economics and banking, let me tell you; the banking sector is highly sensitive and competitive, by the time tens of thousands of Igbos who forms the bulk of the Nigerian middle class begins to withdraw their funds from GTB en mass that is when you will know the impact. Even GTB knows this fact and that is why they hastily did a PR work albeit a poor one the last time there was angry reaction by Igbos. The average Igbo business man in the East, West or North has millions in their accounts and most of them have up to three different accounts so transfering their funds from the fraudulent and thieving GTB to their other accounts will be very easy. Yes, GTB is the best thieving bank in Nigeria.

hahaha o didn't even see where u wrote that GTB hastily did a PR job. It was innoson that ran to the press and GTB only released a single statement later innoson is still crying to the press and GTB has kept mum since then. yet you used the word hastily.

the money spent on your education should have been used to buy newspapers

BiafraIShere:
Look at this mofo, I know you are an illiterate who does not understand economics and banking, let me tell you; the banking sector is highly sensitive and competitive, by the time tens of thousands of Igbos who forms the bulk of the Nigerian middle class begins to withdraw their funds from GTB en mass that is when you will know the impact. Even GTB knows this fact and that is why they hastily did a PR work albeit a poor one the last time there was angry reaction by Igbos. The average Igbo business man in the East, West or North has millions in their accounts and most of them have up to three different accounts so transfering their funds from the fraudulent and thieving GTB to their other accounts will be very easy. Yes, GTB is the best thieving bank in Nigeria.

lol and the downside of it no serious business man will do that in fact the serious business men are the ones sustaining giving the bank most of its profit.


btw no literate person will believe innoson is being persecuted by the same FG that gives him defence contracts regularly. let him go and answer his case in court.

you are the illiterate mofo for seeing this as persecution cos he's an Ibo business man
with that kind of mentality it's obvious your parents wasted money on your education. that money could have been used to farm pigs


tell all your Ibo ppl class to withdraw all their funds from GTB and watch all yorubas including me withdraw our moneys from diamond and putting in GTB. equation balanced illiterate

BiafraIShere:
GTb must pay the 22 billion naira they are owing Innoson! Very crooked bank, thank God I've moved my 1.2 million from their custody. If they can defraud someone like Innoson of 22 billion is it my 1.2 million that is safe? Thrives!!!

lol deluded mind. after all your tantrums GTB still remains the best bank in Nigeria.

you are free to move your 1200naira anywhere you like

SouthEastFacts:
The fact is:
You are a BMC Zom b.

the fact is your are brain dead

Boland:
A man should take the responsibility of providing for his woman, and of course not everything she asks for but her basic needs. If she's willing to stick to what you're offering, fine.

Most young men don't subscribe to the ideas of feminism and at the same time they want their women to be independent, be able to cater for their needs and sometimes support their men (financially). These are the qualities a true feminist possess and it will be unfair to condemn what they expect of their man (which is equality) but want the goodies they offer.

I don't subscribe to the idea of feminism and as such I don't believe that Men's responsibilities is to be shared.

Like I said earlier, let the Men be Men.

see this one o.

anything you do for the woman has to be out of your own freewill. why should I sacrifice all my savings on a woman i'm not sure I will marry? I can give gifts and assist occasionally but stop talking like it's the responsibility of the guy to take care of all her wants and needs

kenzysmith:
when did ffk called johnathan cluess? Let me ask u this question, were is ur brain?

see ffk attacking Jonathan here

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/ffk-on-chief-e-k-clark-president-goodluck-jonathan-and-his-government.html


http://www.osundefender.com/buharivictory-update-fani-kayode-blasts-jonathan-says-he-still-holds-jonathan-that-jonathan-is/

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/131308-fani-kayode-blasts-jonathan-says-president-is-leaving-legacy-of-destruction-and-disaster.html


were you born this year? how come you don't know ffk was a serious critic of Jonathan between 2011 and 2015?

where is your brain?

MrSly:
Obj tormented Tinubu, Buhari lost three times before teaming with tinubu to wrestle power away from PDP. Good for them.
But you also knew that Buhari has failed to deliver on his promises which was the major reason why he was voted massively. In sane societies when leaders fail the people woefully, they resign for the sake of integrity. But here is Buhari seeking reelection despite his gross failure and age.
Yet you called him a man of integrity. I think the right question we should be asking is" Jaideyone, where was your brain when you wrote this?"

good. I like people who are ready to argue logically like you.

yes buhari has failed to deliver on most of his campaign promises and I've not decided on who to vote yet.
if PDP fields someone like atiku I'll definitely vote buhari. the devil I know is better the angel I don't know. Jonathan failed so much and buhari started looking like the Messiah cos of the way Jonathan handled things like a kindagaten president. in 6yrs Jonathan didn't fix any general road in the south west apart from Benin ore road. GEJ didn't do any road in the south east either. he was a total failure. if sowore or fela durotoye can convince me in 2019 that they would at least be 10% better than buhari then I'll give them my vote!!!

SouthEastFacts:
That is BMC's card. They love pulling that card.

But Nigerians are smarter.

yeah everyone that doesn't share your jaundiced opinion is BMC. you need a brain ASAP

BlakKluKluxKlan:
You and your dullard and brainless jihadist are the morons.

1. If he had a brain, would he have never passed an examination in his entire life ?

2. If he has a brain, would he have said that Abacha was not corrupt and did not steal money, yet turned round to say what he would use the same Abacha's loot for ?

3. If he has a brain, would he have ordered his IGP to relocate to Benue and admitted three months later that he didn't know his surbudinate disobeyed him and yet failed to sanction the man ?

4. If he has a brain would he have allowed Hameed Ali, a serving civil servant, to lead a delegation of his campaign supporters to his office on the same day 2 catholic priests and 13 christians murdered inside a church during service were being buried ?

Now you see that PMB and every person that defends him can only be brainless morons ?

you see how you fail exams? I never said buhari has a brain in the post you quoted. instead I pointed out the fact that ffk once praised the same buhari.
I also mentioned the fact that buhari has failed to deliver on most of his promises.

now can you see your foolishness? illiterate

PointZerom:
Shut up, didn't Buhari and surpporters praise obj during 2015 election?.

of course he did some good things like telecommunications, Foreign reserve and our debts that he cleared. where did you see me criticising obj in that post you quoted aside the way he treated tinubu and what he said about ffk which are known facts?

you should go through my posts and point out where I ever criticised obj. i'm one of the reasonable few that tell it as it is. I even pointed out the fact that buhari has failed to deliver on most of his electoral promises in the post you quoted. yet you foolishly classified me as a blind APC supporter.

you should be the one to shut your dirty mouth

charain:
You are just doing your job, keep it up.

i'm doing my job yet I said buhari has failed to deliver on most of his promises? why not point out the lies in all those things I said up there.

are all wailers this dumb?

SouthEastFacts:
We understand how the game is played at BMC Secretariate.

"I am anti-Buhari but we should give him another chance"

Sorry, Nigerians are wiser.

so the best way to defend your paymaster is to say he has failed to deliver on most (more than 50%) of his electoral promises? isn't that an own goal?

English is obviously not your strong point

iamdynamite:
Why dont you counter what he said, instead of shouting BMC up and down, you guys are pathetic

thank you!!!

SouthEastFacts:
You just confirmed what I was saying. You are working hard now to deserve your 30k BMC stipend.
Good luck but do it with your head and conscience.

are you blind to the part where I said buhari has failed to deliver on most of his electoral promises?

may God deliver you from this inherent foolishness

ffk is a mor0n

the same ffk that once asked obj to account for the $16b years back is now defending obj

the same ffk that once called buhari a man of integrity and called GEJ a clueless man is suddenly pro-jonathan and anti-buhari.

the same ffk that once wrote long epistles against ibos and even went as far as telling us tales of how he bedded their late general's wife is suddenly pro-ipob

this ffk is the most confused politician in the history of this country. he's now standing against everything he stood for a few years ago.

even the obj he's defending now once said give ffk food and he will sing for you

buhari and tinubu are far from perfect. buhari has failed to deliver on most of his electoral promises but both tinubu and buhari are the only politicians in Nigeria that stood by what they believe in even when things weren't working for them and they were surrounded by enemies.

buhari lost 3 presidential elections and never lost the opposition. tinubu was tormented under Obj and he wasn't broken. instead he went ahead to birth a strong opposition party that wrestled power away from PDP.

Buhari remains a man of integrity.

the real question we should all be asking is "FFK where is your brain?"

deboysben:
Is that not Edward Clark i just saw in the 3rd picture.


Tony come see your elder in Igboland oo.



BTW afonjas seeing this now will be like
We Will NOT TAKE IT. Igbos and ijaws must be enemies

what's our business with what your ijaw masters decide to do with you? lol please leave afonjas out of your madness

Mogidi:
Oil is now over $80 yet Buhari's padded budget says $45.

and our reserves have gone up 13b dollars in 3yrs of buhari amidst low oil price. that's where the remaining is going. this is a government with the will to save. not one ineffectual buffoon that o my knows how to share money