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MrEar:
God is working. Here are changes from your organisation.




Its sad that they only made these changes because they lost Millions of dollars.

They would have kept forgiving the predators, sane way you were asking me to forgive them.

tctrills:
Romans 14:4-5 actually did, It gave you the freedom to choose if you will celebrate or not, And it made it clear that you would not be judged for celebrating.
Lets read it together.
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

First, it teaches people like you that you don't have the right to judge others for celebrating. But I know you learnt nothing here.
Then it went on to teach that the decision to celebrate or not should come from our minds. So each person can and should make their own decision.

So I ask, would you obey the instructions of Paul and stop judging those who decide to celebrate or would you continue obeying you wicked leaders and continue to accuse the brethren who celebrate.

Again, hope you remember that even the angels celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ?

sagenaija:
MaxinDHouse, Is comprehension difficult for you? That verse did not say it is signs. Did you see the portion I bolded? Here it again:
"Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him." Rev. 1:7.
"EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM" means just what it says. It did not say every eye will see signs. You will be reinterpreting the Scripture to say that. Wise up, man!

MrEar:
I thought I was wasting your precious time. I guess your time wasn't precious after all.




Good question. Because Europeans and westerners are educated civilised people who know their rights! So even though your leaders warned them not to report, they know their rights and they disobey. That's the power of education. A power your leaders want to take any from you.




LIES. They are not exjw. They were devout members who trusted the elders or brothers that abused them and even after reporting nothing was done to them. You members forgave them and they kept abusing kids. that is why you were telling me in the beginning of our discussion that we should forgive them. What a shame!



They took action. They sued your organisation and your organisation paid them millions. Their action has changed things in your organisation. Am sure they have warned you not to preach to a child if the parents are not around.

Jesus loves children and he will continue to expose religions that harm children!

Thank you my Lord Jesus 🙏

tctrills:
This is a very foolish question because the bible was not written to indicate whether birthdays were celebrated or not. The most important thing is that we are guided by the principles. So the question should be, do you believe the teachings of Paul or not?

Are you even listening to yourself?
Oga,where are you getting the principle to celebrate what you claim your Bible ( the teachings of Paul at Romans 14:4-5 ) did not indicate whether you should celebrate or not?

Which believer in the Roman congregation followed your spurious interpretation of Romans 14:4-5 in the days of Paul the apostle?
"Do not go beyond the things that are written." ,
Obey that injunction
or
Just continue deceiving yourself.

MrEar:
I understand your pain and frustration

You could not keep beards because men like you told you not to keep it until they gave you the permission to keep what God gave you.

Very painful and frustrating to be a Jehovah witness.

Kpele.

Greet your brother MaxInDHouse for me.

MaxInDHouse:
Christians are free to dedicate a day for themselves is it collectively for the purpose of worship or individually to do whatever they want each in the name of Jesus?🙂

tctrills:
So you know more than paul who taught that believers are free to dedicate a day to the Lord?
Oga your church is not zhe standard for Christianity, the teachings of Jesus Christ and His apostle is the standard.
Even if the people in Rome at that time did not celebrate Christmas, as long as the teachings of Paul clearly stated that it is not a sin, who are you to judge?

Even if Christmas started 1 million years after the death of Christ, the teachings of Paul makes it clear that it is acceptable to God.

Lets read the verse again.

Romans 14:5–6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever does not regard one day as special does so to the Lord as well

Christmas is done unto the Lord thats whats important

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing worthwhile in speaking a language which your neighbor doesn't understands yet you keep speaking just to prove you speak jargons!

MrEar:
Your Founder was Charles Taze Russell, the man in the first picture below. He wrote and published so many publications that your present leaders have thrown out as garbage.



Nice one. But let us also put it this way, any religion that has leaders who cannot be questioned or corrected is not practising Christianity.



From what I've learned you dare not question or correct the group of men in the second picture below. Whatever they tell you, you must do.

If they tell you keeping beards is bad, you must shave it. If they tell you keeping beards is okay then you can keep it.

Since out of fear, you could not question or correct them that there is nothing wrong in keeping beards, then you all are not practicing Christianity.

Oga, name the church leader you have corrected .
Let's confirm you have practiced Christianity as you claim.
Making noise is cheap.

MrEar:
Jesus Christ loved children. He would never have anything to do with a religious group that protects child abusers.

RightChannel:
If not about building, it is about singing right?

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;

Oga, go and rest

Please stop deceiving yourself

RightChannel:
Don't tell me you want to run away for my questions!

You previously said the word Church ONLY means GATHERING and not building. After you were exposed, you turn it to asking Jesus for the meaning thereby condemning what the meaning is from google, wikipedia, etc you are now ro man cing with.

Meanwhile, Mathews 16:18 used the word "BUILD" and I told you Church can mean two things, first is gathering of the children of God and second is BUILDING depending on what you are using it for in a sentence!

Perhaps you should check for the meaning of BUILD from google, encyclopedia and wikipedia so as to stop confusing yourself again!

RightChannel:
Take these questions back home when next you will be gathering inside hall for your meeting..

1. Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?

2. Where is your HALL found in Bible unlike the word Church that is read from the Bible?


Take care!

You lack understanding.
This fact is very glaring.
Oga, is "rock" @ Matt 17:18 a reference to a physical feature ?
Is every church you know,built on a rock?
Is gate of hades ("hell" a physical structure that can not prevail over the church you call a building?

Oga, wise up ,I dey beg you .

RightChannel:
Do not deviate!

Where is your HALL written in Bible?

LordReed:
Is your wife giving you trouble?

QuinQ:
Ogaaaaaah, you may be slow but I'm sure u were not born yesterday. No need to debate words. Jews never used the words Jesus used. They were reserved for God!

QuinQ:
THE PEOPLE PRESENT (which u were NOT) KNEW HE WAS CLAIMING TO BE GOD! (including the chief priest). And here you are, 2000 years later second-guesing what they heard!

QuinQ:
He forgave sins, accepted worship, entered people’s hearts! What other attribute would convince you he is God?
Not only that, the Father could have struct him down for lying, instead He rose from the DEAD to be worshipped exactly as God!
Or are you saying God is powerless??

AhmedPeacemaker:
The Group Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian National Petroleum Company Limited (NNPCL), Bayo Ojulari, has revealed that Nigeria’s state-owned refineries were operating at what he described as a “monumental loss”, forcing his management team to halt operations to stop further financial damage to the country.

Ojulari made the disclosure on Wednesday in Abuja during a fireside chat titled “Securing Nigeria’s Energy Future” at the Nigeria International Energy Summit 2026, where he offered a rare and blunt assessment of the operational and commercial realities of the nation’s refining assets.

The NNPC boss acknowledged widespread public frustration over the refineries, noting that Nigerians had every reason to be upset considering the huge public funds invested over the years.

“On the refineries, Nigerians were angry. A lot of money has been spent, and expectations were very high. So we were under extreme pressure, extreme pressure,” he said.

Naija News reports that Nigeria’s four state-owned refineries, Port Harcourt (two plants), Warri and Kaduna, have consumed billions of dollars in rehabilitation and turnaround maintenance costs over decades, yet have largely failed to deliver sustained output.
Ojulari admitted that refining was not his area of expertise when he assumed office, having spent most of his professional career in the upstream oil sector.

“My background is upstream, so I was on a vertical learning curve. You are accountable, so you must learn very quickly. Otherwise, there is no escape,” he said.

According to him, accountability demanded a rapid and honest assessment of the refineries once his team settled in.

‘We Were Running At A Monumental Loss’
Ojulari said the true financial condition of the refineries became clear almost immediately after a detailed operational review.

“The first thing that became clear, and I want to say this very clearly, is that we were running at a monumental loss to Nigeria. We were just wasting money. I can say that confidently now,” he declared.

He explained that NNPC was feeding crude oil cargoes into the refineries monthly, yet utilisation hovered between 50 and 55 per cent, resulting in severe value erosion.

“We were spending a lot of money on operations, a lot of money on contractors. But when you look at the net, we were just leaking away value,” he said.

More worrying, Ojulari said, was the absence of any credible plan to reverse the losses.

“Sometimes you make a loss during investment, but you have a line of sight to recovery. That line of sight was not clear here,” he noted.
This lack of clarity, he said, made continued operations economically unjustifiable.
Ojulari revealed that halting refinery operations was one of the first major decisions taken by his administration.

“We decided to stop the refinery and do a quick check. We planned that if things were lined up, we would reopen and work on them,” he said.

According to him, shutting down the facilities was necessary to prevent further losses while reassessing their viability.

The NNPC chief further disclosed that part of the losses stemmed from the quality of products being produced, citing the Port Harcourt Refinery as an example.

“The crude we were taking into Port Harcourt was producing mid-grade products. When you aggregate their value compared to what you put in, it was a waste,” he said.

Ojulari acknowledged that the decision to halt operations was politically sensitive, given longstanding pressure on NNPC to keep refineries running to ensure fuel supply.

“There were political pressures to keep the refinery product, lots of pressure. But when you have been trained for over 35 years to focus on commerciality and profitability, you can’t sleep with that,” he said.

Nigeria’s refineries have for decades operated far below capacity, at times running at single-digit utilisation or shutting down entirely. This has forced Africa’s largest oil producer to rely heavily on imported refined petroleum products.

Between 2015 and 2023, successive administrations approved multiple rehabilitation contracts worth billions of dollars, yet domestic refining output remained negligible, intensifying public scrutiny of NNPC’s efficiency.

Ojulari’s remarks represent one of the most candid admissions by an NNPC chief executive that continued refinery operations, under existing conditions, were economically unsustainable. The comments underscore a broader shift within NNPC, under the Petroleum Industry Act, toward enforcing commercial discipline, even in politically sensitive areas such as domestic refining.

QuinQ:
Oga, Oga, Oga, Jesus is GOD!!! He is not the Father BUT He and the Father are ONE!!! Worshipping Him is worshipping the Father!!!
Your problem is that you keep trying to define God in human terms - an impossibility.

QuinQ:
How else can Jesus tell you He is God and still avoid being crucified before t3he appointed time?? How many times must He use the devine "I am" before you get the hint?

John 8
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him... (for obviously claiming to be God)

AND
John 10:33,: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"

AND
Mark 14,: Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”
62 “I am,” said Jesus...
63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?”
(Here again Jesus uses the divine "I am" - they realized He just claimed to be God!)

So my man, if you honestly study the Bible with an open heart, it will gradually dawn on you as it has dawned on thousands before you: This is God!

QuinQ:
If you ask me to show you God and I say to you: "What is wrong with you? Have you not seen me? Which other God do you think there is? After all this time how can you still think there is another God besides me? What is wrong with you?!"
What does that tell you?

John 14:
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you still say, ‘Show us the Father’?

QuinQQ:
But then people like MaxInDHouse will say the last quote actually reads:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was A God."

They comfortably have more than one God while claiming monotheism - they want to have their cake and eat it too!

immaculatesense:
So the first church was Jehovah Witness?
Keep deceiving yourself.

immaculatesense:
You are confused Oga.
I asked for the meaning of Worship and Obeisance in Greek, you are selling pepper and tomato for me.

Oga,you asked "is bowing down not worship?"
You quoted Revelation 22:8-9 to buttress your claim.

I referenced the Greek word for word Interlinear & pointed out to you that Greek pipto @ Rev 22:8-9 you quoted is not worship.

Now you wan pretend that you asked me the meaning of Worship & Obeisance in Greek.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself, pls read the screenshot of your post I replied on 13th January, 2026 @ 8;19pm.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what pains these guys when they are discussing with JWs on this forum as they realize we are completely equipped with using the scriptures they wonder why we still remain humble to those taking the lead in God's organization because if they know half of what we know they would have started earning money long ago claiming pastors!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
I've discovered this Muslim guy is not sincere he's just seeking support for his parent's religion by attacking all other religions!

Antichristian2:
Jesus Christ lived on earth for approximately 33 years, with about three years dedicated to his public ministry. The religion founded on his teachings was later called Christianity, named after Christ. However, Jesus did not explicitly settle many creedal matters before his death. Even Paul, who was allegedly commissioned by Jesus despite not meeting him during his earthly life, did not resolve these doctrinal issues. As a result, early church councils were convened to address and clarify these important creedal questions.

Definition of a Council
A council is a formal assembly of church leaders and theologians convened to discuss, debate, and decide on important doctrinal, theological, or disciplinary issues within Christianity.

Why Was It Needed?
Councils were needed to address emerging heresies, clarify Christian doctrine, and maintain unity in belief and practice as Christianity spread and diversified.

Why Not Just Follow Jesus’s Teachings Directly?
-Jesus did not provide detailed systematic theology or resolve all interpretive disputes.
-As the church grew, differing interpretations arose, requiring authoritative decisions.
-Councils provided a collective, guided consensus to preserve orthodox faith and resolve controversies, especially on core creedal matters.

1. Council of Nicaea (325 AD)
Defined the divinity of Jesus Christ, affirming He is "of the same substance" (homoousios) with the Father.
Produced the original Nicene Creed.

2. Council of Constantinople (381 AD)
Expanded the Nicene Creed, affirming the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Reaffirmed the Trinity doctrine.

3. Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Affirmed Mary as Theotokos ("God-bearer" or Mother of God).
Condemned Nestorianism (which separated Christ’s divine and human persons).

4. Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Defined the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union: Jesus Christ is one person in two natures, fully divine and fully human, without confusion or separation.

5. Second Council of Constantinople (553 AD)
Reaffirmed Chalcedon and condemned certain writings seen as Nestorian.

6. Third Council of Constantinople (680-681 AD)
Condemned Monothelitism, affirming Christ has two wills (divine and human).

7. Second Council of Nicaea (787 AD)
Restored the veneration of icons, condemning iconoclasm.

Why debate on all these if Jesus and Paul did clarify them in the Bible?

MaxInDHouse:
When young men prostrate before elders this guy doesn't know it's not to worship rather it's readiness to obey by carrying out any form of task the elders gives.

So when all the host of heaven do obeisance before Jesus this guy thought they are worshiping Jesus just as his trinitarian mentors taught him whereas what that means is readiness to take order from Jesus.

Now upon all his worship argument he can't present one single church where they are worshiping Jesus!😂

immaculatesense:
Is their name Jehovah Witness?
Yes or No?

@ Acts 15:14-18,did the disciples tell you they are bearing Jesus name?
No.
Therefore,the name is Jehovah's witness.

The question is WHY?
Let your Bible explain why....
The answer is Jesus revealed it,@ Matt12:15-18, Chosen servant of Jehovah @ Isaiah 43:10. Chosen servant is Jehovah's witness.
@ Rev 3:14 Jesus is "Faithful witness"
Jesus said @ John 17:11, "Holy Father ,keep them in your name which you have given me."
@ John 5:43, "I have come in my Father's name".
Is the Father's name Jesus ?
No nau !!!


@ John 9:4 & John 20:17,Jesus cemented this fact. Jesus /the disciples chosen servants bearing his Father's name, Jehovah's witnesses they are

immaculatesense:
Which difference?
Is bowing down not worship?
Oya, tell me how to worship?
Or what was the Angel telling John here? YOU ARE CONFUSED? WHAT IS WORSHIP?
Let quote Una Bible JW.

Revelation 22:8-9
8 Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things.
9 But he tells) me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers the prophets and of those observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”

Confused people.

immaculatesense:
New King James trying to evade worship? Are you new to Bible history? Why was the New King James version written differently from the King James? Was it not to make it simpler for people to understand? Worship was broken down to mean falling down or bowing down.
When the Devil asked Jesus to fall down and worship him, was the devil not demanding worship from Jesus if he fell down to worship? Why didn't Jesus just bow down and say it is just bowing down and not worship. [b ]When you fall and bow down to anyone or image, it is worship. Such is meant for Elohim (Spirit beings (plural) with God's delegation) alone.

You still have not told us the Greek of Worship and Obeisance so we can check the difference[/b].

immaculatesense:
Why you stop?
You no quote VERSE 14 na. Why you stop at verse 13.
WHY YOU DEY FEAR?
Let me use your JW Bible, I get the soft copy. I go quote am and you go do the explanation.
OYA EXPLAIN VERSE 14, NA UNA BIBLE I QUOTE O WEY USE WORSHIP.
LET ME HEAR WHAT YOU GAT TO SAY.

JW Bible (Revelation 5:13-14
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.”
14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

"Worshipped the Lamb" is not in any Greek manuscript,the NLT translators added that.


Bishop kingsley, a Trinitarian said Jesus was NOT worshipped in Revelation 5:14.
That is the reason NWT rendered verse 14 "worshipped."
Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

immaculatesense:
Can you remind me of the name of the Apostles' church again sef...I don forget o.
I think in the Bible the name they were called was Jehovah Witness abi...help me confirm abeg.