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InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 6:16pm On Jul 09, 2015
IBBG:
actually I think it does, because when foreign investors want to buy Nigerian stock they will need to change their dollars for naira hence pushing up the naira due to demand. In a situation when foreigners are dumping our stocks they will convert the naira to dollars hence putting a downward pressure on the naira since dollars is in higher demand. So that's the likely scenario I can envisage. Although I'm not an economist by profession, but I'm so fond of economics as it affects our world.
Hoping to become good at it, as it will enable me make sound decision as a potential investor.
Nigerian stock index is not traded in Nigeria alone

Do you understand the concept of EFT?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 5:07pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
gringringringringringrin Braggart gringringringringringrin byeeeee bro gringringringringrin
I like being Intellectually challenged so no issues.

Stay blessed
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:56pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Teaching someone who started with a boast on how he would school me on equities and shareshuh...That's a big NO to me...
I could place a bet that you were probably still in secondary school when i was actively trading

So please make it a Yes Yes

You think i'm one of those that can talk the talk but won't be able to walk the walk?

Anyhoo, i will let you off

Ciao
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:52pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Good pm bro
You backing down?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:50pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
What are you doing in Londonhuh...
jaybee3:
You called me out and i ain't hiding so why are you running?
Why don't you tell me how they are closely correlated
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:48pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
And this post is to what end?

Do you even know the difference between money market and capital market?

Did you read the content of this post you sent to me?

Quit embarrassing yourself and disturbing my mention...
You called me out and i ain't hiding so why are you running?

Why don't you tell me how they are closely correlated
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:40pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
What difference does it make it to the dwindling equity valueshuh?
There are various factors affecting equities and it isn't restricted to the emerging markets.

China is slowing down
Greece is lingering
America is not growing at the predicted pace

There is an obvious knock on effect on with a slow down in major economies such as their inability to by commodity (Our key export).

If Nigeria's stock index is heavily weighted by energy stocks then surely that will weigh the market down , No?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:36pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Kindly ignore the jaybee3 guy...who doesn't even know the difference between capital market and money market...Imagine asking me about price of garri when we are discussing stock market issues...gringringrin and he has London written boldly as his location... jaybee3; Is garri quoted in London stock market or do you trade on garri in fx?... or hunger is just twisting your medula oblongata? gringrin
Dude, so because garri isn't quoted on the exchange mean price of food isn't being directly correlated with price movement in the stock exchange?

What affects the price of food?
Commodity and transport stocks right?

So that has no knock on effect?

Are you listening to yourself?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:32pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
I just glanced through your profile to see who's this guy talking from two sides of his mouth...You're a typical example of the axiom "appearance deceives" because you looked sensible in your picture but reasons otherwise...

I thought you said it is FX why the jump now?
What correction are you talking about for an investor that needs to know policy direction of government before investing?...
So why jumping from stock market issues to daily living affairs?...are you listening to yourself at all? Is garri quoted in the stock market?...Mehn lots of incoherent, discordant, confused and myopic folks around...And to think that you were boasting about schooling me...smh...; Dgrin nawa...
The Fundamental Issue
Ultimately, a currency fluctuates based on supply and demand characteristics. When more investors demand a currency, it will likely strengthen relative to other currencies. When there is excess supply, the opposite is true. This fundamental principle, however, is influenced by a many factors that lead to constant currency fluctuations each and every day. It is beyond the scope of this article to discuss many of these factors. The focus will be on how equity markets can provide an insight into the foreign exchange markets.

A Global Game
The foreign exchange markets are truly a global market, bigger than any other securities market. So when thinking about equities and their influence on forex markets, you truly have to think globally. The best companies to consider are naturally the ones with international operations that transact in various currencies. For example, as the biggest retailer on the planet, Wal-Mart deals with foreign exchange issues just as much as any other company you could think of. Another great name is Coca-Cola. These global consumer stocks transact with consumers all over the world and provide the best corporate glimpse into the forex market.

The commodities market can also be useful with respect to the forex market. Consider the main global commodity, crude oil. Global oil prices are denominated in U.S. dollars. As an example, the price of oil can spike because the value of the U.S. dollar declines relative to major global currencies. So the price of oil has to go up in order to equalize the price that other foreign countries buy in their home currencies. While other global commodities – sugar, corn, and wheat – offer similar insights, oil is the most significant commodity that relates to the foreign exchange markets.

A major equity market can also influence forex markets in another way. A weak currency favors exporters in that particular country. When your domestic currency is weak, exports are cheaper abroad. That helps fuel growth and profits of those exporters. When earnings are growing, equity markets tend to do well. Of course, the situation is most likely to occur in equity markets backed by the major global currencies – the U.S. dollar, the yen, the euro, the British pound, etc. (To learn more about commodities prices can affect global currency, read Commodity Prices And Currency Movements.)

Looking Forward
Because foreign exchange markets are dynamic and fluctuate very quickly, most industries serve as lagging indicators for the direction of forex markets. It's not until a company reports its earnings that one begins to know the effect of currency movements. Often, the company's results will be vastly different than analysts' estimates when forex has played a major role. It is at that point that investors can analyze the comments from management with regards to the future outlook of currency fluctuations. Things to look for are any indications of hedging strategies that a company will take going forward.

Trying to differentiate what types of assets – hard or soft – best identify forex movements is meaningless. Rather, what is important is the necessity of the asset. Things like food, gasoline, and medicine would be more useful than clothing or jewelry. A company like Kraft, which sells food on all over the world would be more useful than Tiffany's, the iconic jewelry store retailer.

Government Involvement
One would think that global financial institutions would serve a meaningful purpose in forex markets. They do in the sense that they help facilitate forex markets. But in terms of identifying direction, remember that the value of their main material – money – is influenced by government policy.
Unfortunately, equities don't provide any meaningful leading indicators. The value of money is determined by its supply and demand, which is generally determined by government via interest rate changes or other policy movements. Trying to use equities as a leading indicator would not be wise when governments can influence movements at will.
The reality is that equities alone are not a prudent way to predict the direction of currencies. Government balance sheets, monetary policy and interest rates play a major role in forex markets. Recent U.S. history serves as an important example. As a response to the 2007-2009 financial crisis, the Federal Reserve significantly increased the money supply by buying over a trillion dollars in bonds. While this program - commonly known as quantitative easing - helped the economy out of the worst recession since the Great Depression, the dollar weakened significantly against a basket of global currencies. This dollar weakening occurred even as U.S. equity prices surged from 2009 to 2011. (To read more on the financial crisis, see The 2007-08 Financial Crisis In Review.)

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/11/how-equities-affect-fx-market.asp
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:14pm On Jul 09, 2015
CHANCEMAN:
Is the stock market restricted to only investors in Nigeria?
Who are the biggest investors in the Nigerian stock market?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 4:13pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
According to the article;

[b]Investors had hoped for a sustained rally after smooth elections in March[\b] But markets have taken a hit from worries over the continued slide in the naira and the impact of persistently low oil prices on government finances.

What currency is Nigeria's economy denominated in?
Shares here are purchased in what currency?
Is this article or post about stock market or forex ?

You need to go back to school to learn before schooling me...start with learning the differences bro...

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/5-differences-between-forex-trading-stock-trading-1280435
Are you dense or just plain stupid?

So if stock A was selling for N20 per stock pre election but now selling at N15 per stock post election due to the uncertainties, don't you think the correction is producing a perfect avenue for re-entry into the market?

The value of Naira is still the same for Nigerians. It only becomes expensive when they have to rely on imports.

Has the price of food changed?
Has the living standard changed
Has Inflation changed for upward movement as a direct result of the devaluation?

I'm no economist but engage your common sense bro
PoliticsRe: Lamido & Sons To Be Remanded In Kano Prison by jaybee3(m): 4:00pm On Jul 09, 2015
anonimi:
Being arraigned is a a step in the right direction.

Being remanded in prison for two months is NOT and smells of witch-hunting particularly when you consider that others have worse corruption but are posting pictures of relaxing in their house in Abuja.
Let's not consider the merit of similar cases since outcome of any court proceedings solely rely on merit of the argument being put to scrutiny in front of the presiding judge.

Rich people are usually able to get away with murder because they can afford the best lawyers not necessarily because they can buy justice.

He was probably remanded because he could have disappeared or whatever. We don't have the details so we can't speculate

I just want us to focus on the charges he is facing for now
PoliticsRe: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by jaybee3(m): 3:53pm On Jul 09, 2015
Muslim leaders ought to do more by denouncing Jihad or whatnot

It's counter productive asking the uneducated lots that are liable to be brainwashed to simply follow what the holy book says without them actively explaining to them that it has to be related to the current dynamics of the society we live in.

I'm sorry they need to do more period!
PoliticsRe: Lamido & Sons To Be Remanded In Kano Prison by jaybee3(m): 3:47pm On Jul 09, 2015
anonimi:
If he is guilty let the courts decide not jailed for two months pending conclusive investigations. That is the witch-hunting.

[s]Moreover are you saying all those who sponsored Buhari, including Amaechi with dollars did so based on their SALARIES, in line with the N18,000 minimum wage for other workers huh
If not, can you please tell us why they are also not in jail.[/s]
Thanks.
He is being remanded in custody not sentenced

Why do you always close eyes then deliberately point at others when being challenged?

Have they stopped wike from probing Amaechi?

BTW: What's with your obsession with posting gifs/clips/articles with no relevance whatsoever with topic of discussion.
You deliberate tactics to divert attention won't work with me.

Stay on topic and let's iron this shyte out

Do you think Lamido being arraigned and denied bail is a step in the right direction. If you don't, tell us why!
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 3:40pm On Jul 09, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
You deserve more of the insult you gave that guy...

Uncertainty thanks to non-directional government of buhari fuels the fall more than any other factor...Stocks fell prior to election but picked up after election but went down again because there's no clearcut economic policy from bihari hence people are afraid of investing much fund...
We are talking about the Naira here dumbass

FX is not directly correlated with the Stock market

Come back next time so i can school you
PoliticsRe: Lamido & Sons To Be Remanded In Kano Prison by jaybee3(m): 3:38pm On Jul 09, 2015
anonimi:
Please point out how my post that you quoted is a defence of SUSPECTED rogues.
Thanks.
What exactly were you insinuating about your brainless vengeance comment and annoyingly trying to tie the judgement with lamido's refusal to join the G7?

Was he guilty of getting kickback or Not?

Should he be getting kickbacks for contracts awarded

Should public servants be deliberately interfering with bidding processes to enrich their pockets?

They get kick backs and wickedly share the disbursed funds or deliver substandard projects just so they can enrich their pockets.


Why won't you ever stand for what's right in your pathetic life?
CelebritiesRe: Babatee Replies Yetunde Bustline, ‘You Asked Me Out, Begged Me to Marry You' by jaybee3(m): 3:31pm On Jul 09, 2015
Despicable lot

Shior

Tufiakwa
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 3:28pm On Jul 09, 2015
ddami:
I think the govt is waiting for Jesus to come before they exploit our other mineral resources or they are saving it for the future generation but to me oil has been a RESOURCE CURSE to Nigeria,, even the tourism sector will bring in money,, but no all eyes on crude oil...
It's an open secret that we have to diversify the economy.

No wonder PMB has been going on about tapping into our mineral resources

All is well
PoliticsRe: Lamido & Sons To Be Remanded In Kano Prison by jaybee3(m): 3:21pm On Jul 09, 2015
gsalvatore:
Don't be In hurry. Read well please not only the headlines.

The Lamidos have not been Convicted yet!!!!!

Case was adjourned till September.

And what the fvck is two months for that kinda loot and all the charges . Many Nigerians can go to jail for a year for the kind of money.

Is former Enugu govt Nnamani not facing the same tune? He is practically remitting everything he stole and Invested. Ohakim the former Imo state govt nko?

Mr. Omenka, something tells me you are very young (I maybe wrong ), very clever and don't like researching very well before spewing your sophistry or its a ploy(we'll never know) . You know most Nairalanders don't care to look up things on their own, they prefer to swallow anything dished out for them.

Were you not the one that was trying to back FG negotiating with boko haram citing the Americans with Talibans at same time forgetting that negotiations never stopped the war entirely-talibans are still much alive and kicking.

I want all the thieving politicians to end In real jail long term and cough out all they stole and should be done in a fair way.. Everybody involved or found wanting not just selected few. Even the exPDP that are now in APC and beyond.
Perhaps Mr Nnamani pleaded guilty as charged and offered to relinquish the stolen assets. It's pretty obvious Lamido is challenging the charges and probably deemed as one who may flee hence the no possibility of having bail as an option
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 3:07pm On Jul 09, 2015
ddami:
huuh trouble... I believe the upcoming minister of finance will have a good economic reform... my only problem is for them not to sugar-coat things and make it look okay,,no matter how bad it gets, they should not do something that will make the naira look okay when its not...
Weak naira is actually good if we are an exporting Nation but very bad if we rely on imports

Why do you think the Chinese deliberately manipulate the Yuan. They do so to have an advantage since they are a manufacturing giant and other countries wouldn't be able to compete with them.

Same goes for the Yen that was massively re-engineered through consistent currency buyback
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 2:54pm On Jul 09, 2015
ddami:
then pounds will be??
IF:
£1 = $1.54
AND $1 = N300
THEN £1 = N462

angry angry angry angry
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 2:25pm On Jul 09, 2015
hamilton62:
The Naira is always pegged at a certain price or greenback but the later readjustment (Devaluation of the Naira)was meant to protect the naira because of the rate of free fall it experience in the negative price spike and this devaluation is always backed with increase in export rate and industrialization reducing the import to adjust the Trade Balance of the country for a positive GDPA in interval...
The agricultural sector, SME and industrial sectors were at the best in the past administration and on revitalized state to encourage revenue generation of 60% non crude product and 40% crude products as to back the present greenback... continuity is only the solution..
What are you saying?

Devaluation is meant to maintain parity not protect

You still don't get it do you?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 2:23pm On Jul 09, 2015
Firefire:
You actually have a valid point, Nigerian Naira being manipulated since 1960. But which way forward ?
Way forward his re-invigorating the economy
Export our way outta trouble
That should bring about double digit growths
Demand for Naira will make it strong
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 2:14pm On Jul 09, 2015
Firefire:
Ok, I see, but your statement " Naira is junk anyways so no biggie " you are not fair to us without dual citizenship.
Naira is junk because it's largely politicized instead of being correlated with economic realities.

You can't have confidence in a currency that's constantly manipulated

Ya dig?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 2:06pm On Jul 09, 2015
Firefire:
After the sharp decline in global oil prices and Nigeria oil revenue with about 48%, as of 18th February 2015 CBN closed the RDAS/WDAS

market for the Interbank Foreign Exchange Market (IFEM) in a bid to reduce the level of reserves depletion, after the initial 8% devaluation on

25th November 2014 from N155 to N168 per dollar.

This has foreclose any intervention from the CBN, the policy which I support. You see the gains in the recent news from Emefiele

The truth now remains, other approach needs to be explore to save most especially the SME and the Nigerian masses with International trade.

We should not politicize this perilous situation.
jaybee3:
Make them devalue the damn thing jare

It's pretty obvious they've stopped defending the currency with our foreign reserve hence the gain reported by the CBN

Naira is junk anyways so no biggie
We are saying the same thing
PoliticsRe: Lamido & Sons To Be Remanded In Kano Prison by jaybee3(m): 2:04pm On Jul 09, 2015
Make them chop enough beans before they get re-arraigned

We all know how these thieves usually get the option of fine
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 1:57pm On Jul 09, 2015
Dollyak:
Perhaps deceptively, but there has been no visible economic plan from the president so far. This, coupled with the delayed appointment of the ministers (finance) meant investors were always going to be worried.
Any price movement in the Naira is the responsibility of the INDEPENDENT CBN. Absolutely nothing to do with the president

Yes, the delay in his appointments may have affected the stock market since it's closely linked with business confidence and having uncertainties surrounding government policies ain't something any responsible big investor would delve into.

FX and stock are 2 different things entirely. They are loosely correlated
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 1:52pm On Jul 09, 2015
hamilton62:
you absolutely lack information or you just decided to be.....
Is GEJ OPEC?
what is happening to Russia, venezuela, lybia, SA?
You aren't grateful that he diversified the Nigeria economy from full dependence on Crude if not you would have even been [color=#880000] crying me an ocean [/color]
You want to tackle me?
Are you sure about that?

Think again and let me know your final answer

Here is a bonus for you to ponder on. We (CBN) have always pegged the Naira back using our foreign reserves. How would we be able to keep pegging it back if the reserve has dwindled and the price of crude has crashed ?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: My Interviewer Got Shocked With The Way I Described Myslf When Ask To........... by jaybee3(m): 1:48pm On Jul 09, 2015
queensmith:
I'm shocked!

And nairaland agreed?? Seun should have responded by putting the thread on the front page!
He reverted the moderator's action so the thread is now locked instead of being hidden

Just imagine the criminal making such outrageous demands
PoliticsRe: SOME SHOCKING CBN Revelation(open Letter To Nigerian Youths,news Media ) by jaybee3(m): 1:45pm On Jul 09, 2015
Source pls
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 1:40pm On Jul 09, 2015
Dollyak:
The president isn't helping matters either.
How?
InvestmentRe: Weak Naira: Worried Investors Sell Shares For 6th Consecutive Day by jaybee3(m): 1:34pm On Jul 09, 2015
Detayo7:
Am sure Buhari is working, but even Moses elected people to govern the Israelites with him, this is a direct consequence of not electing ministers
No it's not. No amount of confidence as a direct result of appointment of ministers will help steady the ship.

We need to re-invigorate our economy and stop relying on the black gold as it's simply the ONLY way out

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