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@diggler, vee0906 and tmoni,

Thanks for the encouragement guys.

Got the cheque today. Will be forwarding hers over the weekend. Will fill u guys in on how it goes.

@Topic

Nigerian banks are so callous. Met a client over the weekend who left Bank A over a yr ago to B Bank. Now Bank A has refused to issue a reference to him while Bank B has threatened to sack him if the reference is not received by the end of the month. Reason for refusal is that He recommended a customer to the bank who obtained a loan of 500m and has has paid 493m. Bank A has asked him to offset the balance before the reference can be issued cos the customer has absconded.

@Tollu

Still considering sending him to school o. Made him the promise so have to keep my word to him. He seems to be getting better by the day. Hope he does.

@Topic.
I had this friend (cos he passed away 2 weeks ago ) who we went into a deal together. He sourced the job while i was to carry it out. Sharing was put at 60 for me and 40 for him. The total sum is in 6 digits. I have completed the job and the money is to be paid tomorrow. Though my friend died 2 weeks ago while we were both expecting the payment, leaving a wife and child of 2 yrs.

Now i have decided to pay his share of the money to his widow though she has no idea of the transaction. Is this proper?? I say this cos another friend advised i dont. Am i being sentimental?

J

My wife just started our son's potty training recently.

For awhile now i know when he wants to pee or poohpooh cos he begins to take off his cloths and his diapers, that way i know something is coming.

But getting him to either pee or poopoo in the potty is a chore . He has turned the potty to a mini chair. Just sits on it to lounge.

Well we will get there some day sha.

@Mr Crackles,

Wots good. Nice to know u paly soccer. Play once in a while when i am chanced. Skill is still there like Jayjay but feeling old like Papilo. Wot do u think about "Super" Eagles game on sunday?

@vee0906,

Have already began my search. How am i sure that the new one i get would not be same of the same. At least i can still manage the crazy one i have now? The guy is just blessed let me not say the other word. Meanwhile how far with your job? Me thinknyou shld hold on to it and look for sth to do like MBA and PHD (dat na if u like book like me o,

@Vee0906
Welcome on board.

@cristalz,
Now i know how employer feel when you mess or give an excuse. Before i went solo my boss usually lost his cool whenever i excused myself from work. Back then i used to wonder what was wrong with the Guy. There was a time i called in sick (was truly sick) and this chap sent me a sms saying i messed him up cos we were to have a meeting with some potential foreign clients. I was miffed.

Now i know better becos this my driver will not kill me. From day of employment it has been one story after the other. He hasnt worked 2 mths yet i have advanced him 3 mths salary. Today his son is ill, tomorrow his house rent is due, next tomorrow blah blah blah. I DON TIRE. Bought him an offical line so i can reach him 24/7, guess what he gave it to his wife.

The icing on the cake happened today. He flashed me at about 7.10am (I hr after he ought to have arrived my crib), i refused to call him back becos once i see his flashing i get worried knowing that storytime is about to occur. He finally gets the message and sends me a text saying that he will not be coming to pick me today and will explain the reason why when i get to the office I get to the office pissed and stark raving mad with all mind to sack him. He comes in at 9.am and gives me the excuse. when i heard it i just tire. Believe me u dont want to know, all i know is it is the same story over and over again.

Meanwhile how ana dey, tollu, TKB, Mr crackles ,

Quote from: gudlook on Yesterday at 05:35:39 PM
Thanks Lawyer, God will reward you for your priceless help.

I have briefed my lawyer and he has invited "B" and "B" has sworn to an oath as a witness that he did not sell the land to "AN".
I have presented to my lawyer the following documents:
1. Sales Agreement btw "B" and the original traditional owner
2. Sales Agreement btw "B" and "M"
3. Memorandum of Sales with 50k stamp btw myself and "M" and
4. Sales Agreement btw myself and "M".

Do we need to sue "B" or "M" who directly sold the land to me.
I forgot to say that "AN" listed "B" and the Traditional owner as his witnesses and they have seen my lawyer and sworn to oath as my witnesses.
"B" also denied selling the land to "AN" in the Police Statement.


Hi Gudlock

I am sorry that at this juncture i will not continue to give you legal advise on this matter since you have briefed your lawyer and that amounts to conflict of interest legally contrary to the legal professional ethics rule and i could be held liable for giving out legal advise contrary to what your lawyer has prepared for you.

I will only advise you to consult with him and listen to his plans from now on. I know he has your best interest at heart. Dont worry it is well

@Lawyer,

Very well said. Glad to see colleagues like you upholding the tenets and ideals of our honorable profession.

@Gudlock,

Like lawyer rightly said stick to the advise your solicitor gives you. i can however give you just one free advise:

There is a need to ensure the admissibility of your sale agreement in court by ensuring that it is stamped and registered.

Enough said.

Wish you all the best.

J

Lawyer,

Nice talking to you yesterday. Will send some referrals your way soon.

Keep up d good work.

Cheers.

J

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Quote from: battleaxe on February 18, 2009, 12:23 PM
@lawyer
From your response, it almost looks like you need to get a governor's consent even if you have a C of O. I thought that the governor's consent is a document required for subsequent property transactions after a C of O had originally being issued on a land/house. As such, if i get a C of O on a land, develop it and don't sell it, there is no need to get a governor's consent. It will only come into place when i decide to sell and the buyer then has to secure a governor's consent subsequent to my earlier C of O granted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
In that light then, I would think that a governor's consent would not necessarily always superceed a C of O , or what do you think?


A governors consent is the ultimate legal title you can have to get 100% legal backing for any property and it supercedes the C/O any day and time.

For example if there is a court dispute in respect of a particular land between You and I. If you have the governors consent for that land and i have a C/O of that same land, your governor's consent supercedes any title i have to that land because the governor personally has aceeded to you being the true and rightful owner to that land.

In short a C/O is a prelude to getting the Governors consent but has a much greater value over someone that just bought a land with only a deed of assignment and survey plan in case a dispute crops up with you two in respect of that land.

Even if your property has a governors consent on that land and you decide to sell to me using the governors consent as a veritable bargaining chip to value the worth of your house, if i buy it from you, i will still have to apply for the governors consent in my own name for it to reflect. The only good thing is that i wont have to go through the process of obtaining a certificate of occupancy again since you have already done it before to get the governors consent.

There seems to be a slight mix up here:

A Certificate of Occupancy is only issued for Government allocated Land. Governor's consent is required to validate every subsequent transaction of real
property. For example, where Mr A buys a piece of Property directly from the State Government, he is issued a letter of allocation and he then proceeds to obtain his C of O from the Government. However, where he subsequently decides to sell it to Mr B, Mr B must obtain Governor's consent for the sale to be valid. For every subsequent sale of the property, only the Governor's consent is required. Though any subsequent purchaser can proceed to obtain a new C of O in his own name.

So to say that Governor's consent supersedes a C of O is not entirely true. It would depend on the particular circumstances on the case. In this regard, Battleaxe is correct in his analysis.

J

Lawyer,

Brilliant piece, once again i must commend you on your dedidcation and service to NL. However there is a slight error in one of the answers

QUESTION: These 2 or more people that form companies are called what?

ANSWER: Directors

.

The 2 or more people who form a company are called shareholders. These shareholders are the persons who subscribe to the shares of the company in the Memorandum of Association.

Lawyer as earlier said, keep up the good work.

Cheers.

J

Everyone,

Been off the thread like forever.

It been crazy and rollercoasting all the way.

Pulled some very nice transactions but had a very sore one.

The sore one had to do with my 80+ client. Negotiated a transaction on his behalf made some cool six digits as professional fees only for the baba to pull the plug on the transaction 2wks later asking for more money after the whole deal had been concluded (can u imagine). Had to call the 3rd party and apologise for my client's greed,. The most painful part was having to return the professional fees paid. Just got my bank details and COT is running into several thousands for a deal that did not go through. This life is really unfair, lost money due to someone's greed in these very good times. Still at oss at what to do to the baba.

That baba's action really put me in disarray for a while and almost messed me up on other transactions, but thank God for his mercies.

Enuf whinning, i can see u guys are doing gud, tollu hope u dey enjoy ur nu job, how far with e drinks?
TKB, long time, how u dey?

cristalz,ajanlekoko et al how una dey

cheers

Hi Beejay,

From your questions, these are the possible answers;

1. Yes if he showed you a gazette showing the land has been excised and given to the community, then it is possible he is saying the truth because gazettes show which land has been given back to the owners and which ones havent. But on another note, i have seen gazettes that have been falsified by unscrupolous people trying to hood wink people to believe that those lands have been excised. It is very rampant in Lekki and mowe/ ofada so you still have to confirm if it is true.

2. No, the gazette can never replace a C/O. The gazette only shows that it is free from government acquisition and if it is a large parcel of land they are selling to individuals one by one, they should either have a global C/o Covering the entire land or provide you with mediums and documents to obtain your c/o personally.

If they have the global c/o to give you, then all you need to get is the consent but without that c/o you cannot get a consent

Hi Beejay,

From your questions, these are the possible answers;

1. Yes if he showed you a gazette showing the land has been excised and given to the community, then it is possible he is saying the truth because gazettes show which land has been given back to the owners and which ones havent. But on another note, i have seen gazettes that have been falsified by unscrupolous people trying to hood wink people to believe that those lands have been excised. It is very rampant in Lekki and mowe/ ofada so you still have to confirm if it is true.

2. No, the gazette can never replace a C/O. The gazette only shows that it is free from government acquisition and if it is a large parcel of land they are selling to individuals one by one, they should either have a global C/o Covering the entire land or provide you with mediums and documents to obtain your c/o personally.

If they have the global c/o to give you, then all you need to get is the consent but without that c/o you cannot get a consent

@Beejay
To butress Lawyer's explanation, you still need to conduct a search at the Surveyor General's office Alausa, to confirm that the co ordiantes do not fall outside the excised areas. I was once given a survey plan in respect of a property at Eleko, when we charted it, the co-ordinates did not match what was on the survey plan. Now before i buy any property i liaise wit a surveyor friend of mine who has a GPRS Monitor to read and crosscheck the co-ordiantes on the survey plan.

@Jarus

I cannot bid. I'm the Secretary of the Asset Disposal Committee and therefore ineligible. There is conflict of interest. I have privilege information. I cannot be a player and the umpire. If I'm to bid I'll have have to declare this conflict of interest and excuse myself from the process, while it lasts. But I won't do that!

Yeap, the cars went yesterday. Yours sincerely got one to himself. Other staff in Head office and across our offices nationwide won others

Guy now what do u want us to believe?

Guys its not been easy, the hustle has gone up several notches so have not had time to even check mail sef.

@Tollu,
Congrats on your passing out. Well it is time to launch yoursef to the world. Only advice i can give u is that packaging is the most essential thing, so you gotta package ursef properly. Once u get the new job we must than baba God on ur behalf and do the necessary sacrifice (u go wash am for us be that).

@TKB,
Guy, i really think we can work together o. We need to discuss to see how we can run things.

@Topic,
This week started on a crazy note, monday morning waited for my driver till 10am, when the guy didnt show up, drove mysef to work onlyto find the crazy guy at work. Asked wetin happen and he said he didnt have money for transport to come pick me, why didint he call, said his phone is dead and he didnt know my no. offhead. This na 1 wk old driver o. I go tell my madam make e put the guy for im prayer request. Have some clients coming over from yankee to set up biz in Nigeria, meeting with dem today.

cristalz, lawyer, mr crackles et al, where ya at?

@jarus,

Na wa for u o. This ur principle na wa. Anyway incase of any change in the rules, pls let me know, i know i can trust u wit my money.

@tollu,

Madam, long time. Madam dey doing wot she is meant to do (chop my money). Meanwhile i still dey find nanny o. This daddydaycare thing is not easy at all. So pls help a brother. Open to recommedations and referrals for same.

@topic

Today was a good day generally sha. But this NEPA issue no funny o.

@jarus,

What kind of cars are u guys disposing.

Need 2 get pool cars for the office. Pls holla.

Thanks

@topic

Been a crazy week so far, no wonder have been off the thread for a while.

Monday

Met with a "client" who during discussions i found out is into serious 419 business. Wants to enter into some spurious arrangements with state governments and wants me to document the transaction. Anyway, as u know the client is always king, gave him some advice (not on how to 419 o) and his bill. He paid part and promised to pay balance on thursday. I am not looking forward to him keeping his promise though. victim no 1

Tuesday,
Sad day i must confess. Had this deal i had been structuring since december last year. Packaged both parties properly only for oneof them to back out today. Pain me die. Was expecting some serious dough from the deal. no long thing.

Wednesday,
In this my profession you really get to entertain all orts of clients with strange requests. A client called today wanting to rent a block of apartment for its staff at Ikoyi and requested that i speak with the landlord of the property. Guess what, my client is proposing to rent 8 flats for 2 yrs at $$$$$$$$ per annum. The crazy part is that they want to pay half of the rent now and the remaining half in a year. Can you guys imagine that. When i put the proposal before the landlord the guy thought i was mad. Went back to the client to brief on the outcome of the meeting and guess what, they produce the cheque for the 2 years. The GM explained that it was a case of throwing banana at the landlord to see if he would chop it. The kora people sha.

Never knew running an office was this expensive, been on generator since last week friday and been spending money left right and center. Pls help me beg NEPA.

later.

@tollu,

U wont kobalise me sha. If u continue like this i will end up having my things thrown out of the house .

My "PARTNER" refers to my office partner, na bobo o.

This woman na wa for u. You be working for SSS or SFU.

Yep i give it to woman you guys are super in at departments.

@Damisol

I think i am competent enought to advise u on this. Take it easy, rest, rest, rest.

Cheers

@tollu,

Bachelor ke, you want my madam to drive me out of the house abi. I be baba o. Infact for the past week now i have been doing daddy daycare runs. My bobo's nanny had to go to her village so i bath, dress, feed, drop and pick my bobo in school everyday. It has not been easy i tell u. The chappie is a handful. He asks me 20 questions at the same time. Props to all the working mons out there, una dey try.

@Lawyer,

You are my kind of guy jare. Just keep on.

@ Cristalz,

Still waiting for your sms. As per the house na personal crib o. Men having a personal roof over your head in Lagos is not beans.

@Topic,

Told u guys that i was expecting a cheque this week abi, the cheque finally landed yesterday. Went shopping for office and personal accessories today at the palms. Also went car shopping with my partner. He settled for an EOD. havent made up my mind yet but definitely mine is a truck so i can take the beach road and avoid all this traffic. Meanwhile had one glass to many of wine to wash the cheque so right now i am feeling like lawyer, the only difference is that i am at home already.

@Cristals,

I claim the 12 bedroom mansion o. No mind me o na just ordianry 5 bedroom. Like u said if i am complaining now, wot will happen when i build the 12 bedroom u have prophesied for me. As for my guy i beleive so too, but right now i dont think the guy care cos he is on the moon. No xtrenous factors until he comes down from there.

As for the val suggestions, bring it on, i am waiting. So glad it falls on a saturday, cos the traffic it causes within Ikoyi, V.I and Lekki axis na die.

@Lawyer,
I really feel ur pains. That thing can be so frustrating. So many times in the past i spent sleepless nights preparing arguments particularly for the Court of Appeal, only to get there the next day and the Court did not sit. Remember particularly an instance where upon arriving the office i was informed that our application for stay of execution had been fixed for hearing that morning at Abeokuta. Since i  have a set of Court attire in the office, i sped off to Abeokuta. Arrived there at about 8.15am, registrars didnt come into until 10.30am. At about 11.30am the registrar told me tha the court was not sitting for no apparent reason. Was i mad, sure as hell i was. But what could i do. Left Abeokuta and went home straight.

I consider such happenings as the hazards of law practice.

Cheers

I was so tired that i dozed off in the office today. The stress of the weekend was overwhelming. Had to supervise the re-laying of cables and general cleaning of the flat. Started at 7am and didnt end until about 9pm. So bad i didnt even go for my pals wedding. Had artisans all over the house doing stuff.

Presently interviewing a potential driver and the guy is reeking of alcohol can u guys imagine. He blames it on frustation blah blah.Sounds very intelligent though, but can i trust this chap, men i dont know o. Another turnoff is that the guy talks too much. My partner kinds of likes him though. He actually finished from St Gregs Lagos. Well told him he has to register for the next JAMB, cos i think he is to intelligent to be a driver. I have promised that if he passes JAMB, then i undertake to pay 50% of his tuition fees.

My 80+ client called me today to have a rethink on his brief. Men this baba doesnt give up sha. Told him i would do so and get back to him by Wednesday. There is nothing to rethink. No is No.I never wan die.

Whats up for vals day people. Any suggestions?

@Tollu,

It was because of threats like this that i stayed home to sort out my crib. Meanwhile all the artisans working for me are MAD. One has blown the brand new LCD TV i just bought.DSTV chap is trying to play smart says that the camera on the dish is weak. At least the thing worked till saturday before we removed it. Generator has not started working. I feel my things are being purposely sabotaged. Na to crase for here. Planned not to go to work today, but got a call from a client i sent an invoice since last month in respect of registration with SEC and increase in share capital. Getting paid next week. Yipee.

Right now sef i am outside the house cussing and swearing for the artisans. No DSTV, no generator (and sure no light dis nite cus the NEPA manager don go travel and forgot to drop the key to the server room ).

Have a pal's wedding tomorow i got to attend, but i just cant leave these people alone here before i come back and they say the house too has collapsed.

na wa o.

Where has everybody on this thread gone to.

making money i believe. Anyway me i no go work today. Had some real personal issues to resolve.

@cristalz
I have told the baba dat nothing for the mattter o. Infact i told him that i have conflicting interest with the party on the other side as we are related in some untraceable way. No amount of money would make me take on such a case. Those guys are evil. What is happening for val?

Tollu,TKB, Cristalz and all my peeps,

How una dey. Still havent had the time to unpack. Met with my 80+ years old client yesterday for like 3 hours. The baba gave a land brief that i had to refuse. The money is tempting but the amount of jazz (juju) involved in the case na another level. The party on the other side would go to any level to take out the opposition. 3 SANs don refuse the matter, who i be to collect am. Told the man i would think about it but me i am sure no way. I no want that kain money.

Went for a meeting with a company trying to chance my client over his property in lekki. Solicitor on the other side was quite reasonable and we reached an amicable settlement of the matter.(hopefully).

@Tolu,

I feel you and say amen to that. You know it is funny they say economic depression bla bla blah and yet people have mad tons of cash to play with. Never knew moving houses is such a big deal. I am so scattererd right now. The hosue is a mess, luggage is strewn everywhere. Havent even started to unpack yet. I am really dreading doing that.

Well lets see how work today goes.

@Everybody
Happy new month and have a wonderful day.

Cheers.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the love shown. feel overwhelmingly welcomed.

This week was sure really crazy.

Met with an expatriate client of mine who insisted that i tag along with him to search for an apartment in ikoyi. This guy is something else. We inspected virtually all the service apartments in ikoyi and he had one thing or the other uncomplimentary remarks to say about each flat. Either flat A made him claustrophobic or flat B's swimmong pool was too small or the tennis court in flat c wasnt made of clay. I just tire for the guy. Finally found a flat that he liked but was taken while we were on inspection.

Met with another client an 80+ year old baba that owns half of lagos. This man's business sense is second to none. He has a property in ilupeju that he intends to dispose for 5 billion naira and he requested that i negotiate with the potntial buyer. Buyer is proposing 3.5 billion. Believe me once i close this deal and get my cut, i am on holiday till next year. Well i guess the economic doom hasnt reached some people's side in this naija sha.

On friday met with a potential client that insisted that we talk business over a chinese meal at marco polo. Thought it was kinda funny but paid off. Got the brief after the meal. But if every client makes that kind of request i may soon be out of business o.

Today, just retuned from a business meeting with the vice chairman of a conglomerate on the guy's yatch in the middle of no where in lagos. Yet they say there is no money. I must confess i was really oppressed.

I never knew that moving houses was stressful. Though employed the services of relocators but came back home to find out that the house is upside down. Sleeping on the couch for tonite sha and not wanting to think about how stressful tomorrow is gonna be.

Good nite guys

Dear All,

Been a nairalander for a while now but stop posting on threads due to the rude, lewd and obscene words used by some of the posters. I must say i am really impressed by the level of maturity dispalyed on this particular thread.

That said, i am legal practitioner and legal adviser to several capital market operators in naija. Used to work for a top lawfirm in ikoyi but quit in december 2008 after 6 years to open my own office in Lekki beacuse i virtually had no life. When i was in employment, i resumed work at 7.30am and earliest closing time was 10.30 pm mon-fri. Worked most weekends and public holidays.Now that i have my firm, i lounge. Get to work at 10am and close at 5pm. it is a blast.

Hope to fill u guys in on wot i do later.

cheers

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