₦airaland Forum

Ulomoney:
To a large extent, yes.

Sorry you hear, but they are going to be around till you leave this earth. So that will be quite a life of frustration.

LearnITsmash:
I love it to keep rising so that our useless pastors and politicians will have small sense

Have you had sense yourself?

Are Pastors the cause of your frustrations?

If by now you can't see that things that have been happening around the world since the beginning of the year is beyond the natural, then you are greatly deceived.

JAWBONE:
Zombied don dey tell us say na meteorite and Thunderstorm. Mumu people

Tell us how a non projectile body of explosives in a vehicle could create a large crater?

Your govt lies to you and you feed on it.

Chuksyno:
Hmm.. I'm learning day by day o. So if a vehicle conveying explosives devices detonates, the vehicle and it's debris sink on ground. Nigeria nawa o

And Nigerians have swallowed the lies.

How can explosives in a car form a crater.

HellVictorinho:
There's definitely nothing special about your brain as you KEEP asking stupid questions.
Why do you keep asking such questions?
Is your brain designed by your God to do so ?

As expected. Since they are cornered they resort to their usual insults.

Thses are basic questions asked in debates. But yet this fake Nairaland Atheist claims it is a stupid question.

I have not even asked the complex ones they are hiding.

My brain is designed by God to seek knowledge and my mind to ask questions. I wonder what knowledge your fellow evolved animals are seeking after (afterall you all came from the same source).

But you my friend happens to be the special one, the more rational, you are even browsing on your phone and shining your teeth, while your monkey brothers are in the jungle. Wont you go help them?

I have to retire, you guys have no depth.

hakeem4:
yes other animals have morals. There are scientific papers written by ethologist to prove animals have morals also.
Examples of this include food-sharing in chimpanzees, bonobos and monkeys, Field studies and research center have demonstrated that in such gatherings, Animal X will quit doing favors for Animal Y in the event that it detects that creature Y often neglects to give back in kind.
lets leave primate and talk about other animals for example bats, Females would share food with their friends , if after a night of hunting the friend was unable to make any catch. and for the most part the friend will respond in kind at different occasions; yet when an individual neglects to respond, others become progressively hesitant to go to her aid when she is in need again. Through these, natural selection will act.

humans are not the only ones who evolved morals

you can read on animal morality



humans aren't the only intelligent animals. Numerous different animals, for example, primates, dolphins, and a few others are incredibly smart. They simply have various methods for demonstrating it. With respect to why not all animals developed to be as keen as us, a major factor is large brain. Enormous brain alone can't think that its a bear assault, or assist you with pursuing down prey. Also, not all creatures will increase much from knowledge, and rather grow progressively helpful attributes.

intelligence is not the end product of evolution. Every animal evolves differently. No animal is more evolved than the other. This is why i hate the bible, because it makes you think the human specie is the apex of evolution which is wrong


No!!! Wolves do not kill wolves within their pack - because the pack is their offspring. The only time a wolf will get violent is if they tried to mate with the female alpha, or any other female, really. Wolves are social creatures that depend on one another and have stronger family bonds than the average white middle-class family house hold. They are not blood-thirsty killers.



For the same reason that birds didn’t develop tentacles, or elephants armored exoskeletons: during their evolutionary descent genetic changes did not occur that would have not only have allowed for the acquisition of either by descendant generations but also conferred an increase in fitness with respect to environment at the time such a change arose, allowing it to selected for and become fixed in the population genome.


Because we have evolved that way already! you sound like someone who does not understand natural selection.



NO ANIMAL IS SUPERIOR OR MORE EVOLVED THAN ANOTHER ANIMAL


okay let me try and make this easy for you, it seems you are not well vast in the theory of evolution. When animals evolve , they continue in the line in which they evolved. For example, line evolved to walk on land, there would not be any evolutionary reason for them to begin to fly. our ancestors had began the journey of intelligence, then we would surely go down that path.


EVOLUTION IS FACT

Lol..bros..you have not answered my question o.

Stop confusing innate intelligence or instinct with reasoning.

I asked a question on reasoning not intelligence. All animals are intelligent in their own way. But animals who have been around before humans cannot reason like humans as I earlier explained.

As for your speech on wolves, I would like you to reread what you wrote again and carefully apply what you wrote to human behaviour and see if it makes sense.

As for your last statement on evolution, I will keep my attacking questions until after you have answered my question.

So the question again, why cant any other specie of animal apply rational reasoning the way man does to curb the excesses of man? At least there is supposed to be at least one out there. What is so special about man who just came recently to the earth?

Oh there are many things to counter in your post.

JustSul:
You're stylishly deviating

We are not talking of atheists or theists here, it's not mentioned anywhere up.
I'm not an atheist/theist,

I'm agnostic,
I agree with science over any religion,

It's science vs these well known Religions

Dreaming is of the mind, don't give it a religious meaning, you will soon claim it was Jesus that revealed the shape of the DNA to that scientist you mentioned.

I never claimed your last statement Sir.

But as usual, they bow out when they cant answer my questions.
Lol.

JustSul:
He is a scientist, he depends on scientific solutions,

You sure about that?

Statistically there more religious/spiritual people on earth than atheists. Most people believe in a form of higher power. Now it is also known that those who believe in a higher form of power (whatever it might be) seek for help in their various professions in life from what they seek as a higher power. E.g. whether it be an actor, business man, med lab scientists.

Now BBC did a research and came to the conclusion that about 84 percent of people in the world are involved in a form of religion. (You can google that). That is about 16 percent of the world are Atheists.

So let's just say, 1 in every 6 persons is an Atheist right. Therefore the chances of that person in the lab coat being a religious person is 5:1.

Now some of these scientists got their striking solutions from dreams. An example will be a man called Dr. James Watson. He got the shape and structure of DNA from his sleep. (Now DNA and natural selection has been a great contender against the theory of evolution.)

So now the question to you is, people such as these (and there are many more). How was their subconscious able to come up with an intelligent solution on an abstract concept? After all, we all came from unintelligible matter as Atheists theorise.

Secondly, will you say here he depended only on scientific deductions to arrive at his solution without the help of a higher force?

Please elucidate.

Lol...so the person in the white lab coat is an Atheist right? .

I see the Atheists are happy with this their new chant.

But I have a question for you OP I want you to answer.

If you contracted the COVID-19 today, why should God heal you personally? (Supposing God exists)

Inteltower:
guy nice points
you took him to school

this unbelievers are funny.
watch and see how they will avoid those facts but so foolishly would like to sound smart and dare our faith

Lol..bro they saw it, ran away and refused to answer.

One of them typical as they are, resorted to abuses. . Couldn't come up with anything logical.

HellVictorinho:
Yeah,a dumber person will consider your ludicrous questions.

Lool.

HellVictorinho:
Do you answer stupid questions?
I'll give you some.
1.Why do humans brush their teeth with toothpaste instead of sand?
2.Why do humans bathe with water instead of fuel?
3.Why do humans smile when they are happy or pleased or amused?

Dude! Just give up. Let another person answer.

You are just giving me openings to attack you more.

HellVictorinho:
Stop asking JAMB questions.
What is the function of the human brain?
Furthermore,I don't believe humans evolved from apes.
But the human twist or mankind or humans must have appeared as fully grown adult male and female species of the same kind after whatever drama must have taken place ACROSS a quite different Earth and this epic must have also led to the disappearance of some other species.
The population of mankind or the human twist has increased from tens to hundreds to thousands to millions to billions.
But there could also be a sequential fall in the population of the human twist or mankind as the drama goes on.
The drama has no beginning and it will never end.

Lol..so you cant answer the question. You have already created a subdivision in your camp.

Next person to try please.

hakeem4:
i just find joy in tackling believers

I thought the issue on morality has been debated before?

Definitely god does not tell us what is right or what is wrong. god says it is moral to force a woman to marry her rapist. It is moral to commit genocide. it is moral to have slave


our morality is innate in us. we evolved with it. let me try and break it down for you, we evolved morality so ass not to cause pain to our neighbors, I would not want to do a particular action to my neighbor so as not to see him feel bad. it is just naturally ingrained in us.



[b][/b] The Parameters you listed below, i believe a lot of non believers have contributed towards them

So you love to tackle believers?

Please come and tackle me o.

So let's start with your statement on morality.

You presumed humans had their morality evolved (even tho there is no fact on this but I will ignore for now).

Now for there to be morality there also has to be "reason". I.e the ability to make rational decisions for the benefit of one another.

Now according to the theory of evolution, animals and humans all came from one source before there was a long process of separation into species.

Now answer me these questions:
(Now keep in mind your definition of morality has to do with things we prevent in order not to cause harm or hurt others)

1. According to the theory of evolution, since we all came from the same source i.e animals and humans, why is it, based on the statements you made above, humans are the only species capable of putting a system in place e.g. Laws, prisons, authorities e.t.c to restrain the excesses of mankind?

2. Why did humans evolve faster in reasoning faculties than other species of animals?

3. Science shows that land animal diversity was stable for millions of years before man came along, now an example will be Wolves, now we know for an example, wolves hurt and murder each other, these creatures were here before man yet they have refused to evolve their reasoning faculties to the point where they can establish laws to restrain such acts.

Why hasn't animals such as these evolved in their aspect of their reasoning process? What so special about mankind?

4. How come humans, (they said came from apes) came after millions of years and just so quickly we were able to evolve a lot faster? With our reasoning, we can adapt better and fend off all types of enemies with the weapons we create. (All animals cant fend off all their enemies.)

But wait there is a caveat here to the last question. Evolution is as a result of adaptation to the environment in order to survive. But science shows us that animals are better at surviving their environment naturally while we humans cant just survive naturally naked. We have to use our reasoning faculties for example to make clothes to survive harsh environments (animals dont need to do that). We create footwears for our feets not to hurt or get injured- but animals dont need to do that.

So from this last statement I made, If you believe in evolution and are knowledgeable, you cant dare say humans are higher evolved than other animals. But if you cant say that, Why are we then better at rational decisions? (That's the fifth question).

Now the sixth and much more complex question. ( I will save that for another post).

Please intelligently enlighten us on the questions above and do not ramble or beat around the bush like others do.

In summary, Why do we always have to keep improving ourselves with reason but animals adapt naturally to the environment they are placed without having to give thought to it?

Upon say you copy this thing, you dont even know how to take out these guys.

I have already seen many loopholes in their statements. Things you can use to turn back on them.

Sigh.

Unluckrees:
What the world needs right now is a vaccine for the COVID 19 not test-kit

Oh! Wow, thanks, we didnt know that.

malvisguy212:
Op. You know nothing about prophecy, and you are not qualify to talk about prophecy. Prophecy comes from God, and the same God can decide to avert the judgment.

The reason Jonah did not want to go to Nineveh is because the children of Nineveh are evil and wicked, if Jonah preach to them they will repent and will not face judgment, we all know how the story end, Jonah go. And the prophecy of the destruction of Nineveh were averted, should we say God fail in His prophecy? The children of Nineveh go into prayer and supplication to God and the prophecy were averted .

This virus may be a punishment for our wickedness, and the way it's seems the people of the earth are not ready for repentance unlike the children of Nineveh who averted the prophecy with repentance and a new heart.

Even tho I don't know much about TB Joshua, but I have to say that you are very right.

I just see their comments and dont even bother trying to explain anything to them; because I know they will never understand.

How can they understand? When they are not in the camp of God.

Even with this pandemic, traffic for online porn has risen greatly, people are still joking around online, people are fighting and cursing out each other, others are mocking God. And they want the pandemic to disappear.

If they had been knowledgeable on what the bible teaches, they wouldn't be asking stupid questions like why is God not healing blablabla.

Has the world repented and submitted itself for healing from God? You want to be healed so you can continue in your wickedness.

OtemAtum:
Chai! Small tok wey I tok na him bring all these plenty tok o. But the problem is that all these things you say are not for me because I am not an atheist to start with. I am actually the KNOWER OF GOD ALMIGHTY which created Jehovah your god.

Read the book of MCC 1: 14 for details

Chai!

You are even more deceived than the Atheists.

OtemAtum:
Yes, those who have faith like a grain of mustard seed.

The authors of Christianity are crooks aswear

Authors of Christianity??

I believe if we were two put together the various sources of what began Christianity and then compare it with the ideolog of Atheism. If these were put forward towards a rational being,

The rational being will be foolish to choose Atheism.

When I see comments like what you put above, I just realise that "this person isn't even a knowledgeable intellectual (although he thinks he his) rather, he is just one of those herds who heard what someone said that another person said and because he liked it, he took it to be true".

No knowledge, no research, no depth of perception. Just rambles and spews of things we have heard over and over again. A bland cliche of chants developed by a group a deluded social minors.

If I were to go in depth with you now on all your ideas of so called knowledge, I will end up discovering you are just another empty shell with no framework on which to base all your arguments. Just empty ideas floating with no structure to support them.

They pick and borrow some things from Christianity and twist it for their own and make it seem like it's all a normal human concept that we should all know. That's why an Atheist can foolishly believe in subjective morality but when it's time to defend the claim, they fall short and start stammering.

That's why I dont even bother answering most of you guys. I want someone who has done proper research. Not all these Kobo Atheists.

frosbel2:
so your jesus only heals believers ?

He heals those who have faith in His ability.

frosbel2:
I will if you name a few coronavirus victims that Jesus or your pastors have healed.

But where are the believers that are already victims?

frosbel2:
So, what is the answer? I have read my bible and throughout its pages, healing is promised, especially for the believers. Yet, even believers are perishing because of coronavirus. Tell me Sir, where is the Jesus power that we so desperately need for healing??

Please name the believers that have perished.

hahn:
Name one and send the link. Lol

You have not stopped petty lying for your god

I am not sending you nothing.

You guys have not answered my question.

hahn:
Name one verse in the bible that has been used in a science lab to discover anything useful to humanity

Please use google. There are a lot.

Not just lab experiments but for also space.

hahn:
Lol

Instead of donating medical equipments developed by atheists scientists don't you think your pastor should have asked your incompetent god for the cure instead?

Abi your god no get cure for coronavirus?

Lol..Atheists scientists??. Most of those scientists are Christians. .

chrisnwoke1:
This is the Bible section at Walmart in the U.S already emptied...
People are now learning how to shop for Bible, even Atheists.
How about you?
A GREAT REVIVAL is Happening Secretly!

The same Atheists who worship the whites and always refer to them in their arguments. They will say na only Africans carry religion for head.

Gwagone:
What's your point exactly?

Lol

Xisnin:
As usual, you fail to define what you mean by Christians.
Does Rev. King and Hitler counts?
You couldn't even spell Atheist correctly.
SMH


You should be ashamed of yourself, a good Christian should be praying diseases away and
not discovering drugs. Nowhere was Jesus reported to be researching cure instead of praying for the sick.
Scientific contributions have nothing to do with faith.
When your G.O starts curing HIV patients and regrowing limbs, please let us know.


Lies for the gullible. Lying for Jesus again?


Which cure are you talking about?
Is it Arthemycin that was discovered in China or Quinine extracted from South American plants?


The Christian prayers that couldn't solve Boko haram.
Some Christians even protested against insecurity when they should be praying with faith.

Why are you not praying away Coronavirus?
Aren't you supposed to be christlike?
Even your G.O is scared for his life.
Please gather thousands of faithfuls to pray against Covid-19


Jerome, this is a very foolish question.
What is the connection between Christianity and test tubes or slider?

You are confused.
I am not aware of any Church service where people are trained in scientific research.
Christianity has contributed nothing to medicine, however, scientists have made much progress.

Real believers pray diseases away like Jesus did while fake believers wait on science for cure.

Apart from your illogical write up.

You failed to answer the question.

[quote author=lepasharon post=87741089][/quote]Strange but true babe.

lepasharon:
A sphere is round

Not perfectly round.

UnclePrincipal:
You're really a confused fellow.



Didn't you typed this?
According to you they are two different things which i showed you the definition of the word "belief". That to have a belief is to accept something is true without a proof.


I didn't mention hard evidence. You were the one asking this question. "So u refuse to accept a thing against hard evidence?"

Sigh.

Okay see what you wrote that I quoted.

"Bro. This is what make sense. When there is "lack of belief ". It simply means you refused to accept whatever is presented to you."

Now observe your last statement. You said you refuse to accept whatever is presented in your definition.

Which could also be the same as hard evidence.

This is why I asked the question.

So your boy ain't confused bro.