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BigIyanga:
Not true.. call your pastors to perform miracles and heal COVID-19 victims. Being a Christian doe not make u an inventor or scientist... Being a scientist is accomplished by rigorous scientific training and trials... not being religious. Stop this nonsense

You need comprehension skills Sir.

InvertedHammer:
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You are commenting on an atheist's platform. That says it all.

Believers and non-believers have 50:50 chance on anything in life including accidental death. I am not an atheist but I respect their choice. Religion is making the strongest case for atheism because when practical solution is needed, religious dingbats recoil to their shells. Don't try to shove your popular beliefs down anyone's throat. Only Christians are saving the planet? You are deluded.

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You my friend are very deluded and lack comprehension skills.

Firstly, I never said only Christian's....

Secondly, Christians are part of those people making practical solutions and have been doing so for years. They gave the massive foundation that others are using today.

If you dont have a counter claim then dont make any comment.

sexylassie2:
So what of Japan.. Any foundation on Christianity, so how come they are enjoying

They are enjoying because of their strict culture and tradition.

Their tradition is not like ours. Their tradition calls for total discipline, respect and self sacrifice. (This is the reason ealier Japanese warriors practice something called Seppuku).

Majority of our traditions here enforce greed and indiscipline and lacks self sacrifice.

We see greed in the way we can be frivolous. (Parties, bride prices and lists e.t.c)

We see lack of self sacrifice where we put ourselves first before others.

Its character babe that also builds a nation.

Stoics build a nation epicurean destroy a nation.

Japanese were stoic examples, Nigerians are Epicureans.

Nairalandmonika:
So? Even Charles Darwin father of evolution was a Christian.
As much as there were Christian scientist back then, they were scientist of other religion and even atheist.
Christianity was never the basics of science.
And for you info those two names u mentioned weren't really scientist.

Bruv calm down. I know you want to try prove me wrong.

I was replying a mention. The mention talked on trade and commerce not scientists. And I replied based on that.

sexylassie2:
They are not Christian, they are a branch of Judaism

I hope you most jewish bankers are atheists.


Muslim god is the same Abrahamic God in Arabic it is called Allah.

Let's talk about your country Nigeria, what has Christian foundation done for it?

Sigh.

Okay let me just answer your last question.

Nigeria does not have a Chrsitan foundation. It was not built on Christianity. Rather it was built on the various idolatrous traditions we have. Just like Haiti.

This is why countries on this type of foundations suffer a lot.

In fact Christianity has helped curb many excesses of men in this country.

O! Had there been no Christianity, the wickedness of Nigerians would have been so great.

There is a lot of history I can use in comparing America and Nigeria, but I cant type much here.

Oly23:
And If they didn't y'all would still roast them claiming they have not done anything!!

These guys are hypocrites. Are you minding them.

HardMirror:
so jack ma is a christian?
by the way everything mr enanche donated is utterly irrelevant. for the man that built the biggest church in the world i would have thought he would do better than donating 8 hospital beds and 20 litters of dettol. what a joke

What have you donated?

Why hasn't other billionaires apart from Bill Gates and Jack Ma donated.

Most of them are Atheists why dont you question them?

Nairalandmonika:
Oga calm down, must of those people you claim were Christian were just Christian for formalities. Europe at a time had this very Nigeria mentally u had, they believe in witchcraft and every other rubbish u believed in now.
Christianity was such a dreaded and fearful religion b4, u dare not disbelief or question the pope. So most people had no choice than to be Christians.
Even Charles Darwin, father of evolution was a Christian. that should tell u alot about how Christianity was back then.

Really, were you there?

Last time I checked, Rockefeller was a pastor, and JC penny massively and constantly donated to the Church.

I wonder how they were formal.

Organs:
Why are you shifting goalpost. We are talking about current donations. Someone collecting tithe up and down donated 12 cartons and called press to witness it. Is that what you want to boast about? A man, (maybe Atheist) donated 94K, thousand US $. About 80$ on a credit card and the rest in cheque to a restaurant staff to help pay the staff in these trying times. He was anonymous. He did not call press conference. Also, i guarantee you, there are Church workers and volunteers in that same Church that cannot afford comfortable 3 square meals a day.

From your last statement, you are guaranteeing what you cannot prove.

And you are comparing a Multi billionaire with someone who isnt a billionaire. How much did he donate out of his billions? How much have you donated?

sexylassie2:
Are they Christians no

Even Muslims god is the Abrahamic god.

Stick to the topics

Jews are the financiers of western enterprises, they own the bank, everywhere Christians drove them away from , they place become poor, they were driven from Spain, from Netherland, now they are in London and newyork , those places are financial cities of the world

Messianic jews are Christians Maam.

You still have no claim.

Besides Muslims don't serve God of Abraham.

People who followed the God of Abraham followed strict rules which muslims dont practice. Jews are those who followed the God of Abraham.

To be born by Abraham is not the same as serving the God of Abraham.

You guys should research more.

Besides even if the jews as you claim are not Christians it still doesnt mean a thing. Because what is the point of having a lot of money you cant use to fast track the growth of the economy?

Well, the Christian's took money from the Jews and did something meaningful with it.

FlipModeSquade:
He is not ready for a debate because he claimed Atheism beget science..

But you are okay with your claims that only Christianity contributed to science?

Seems to me you are the one shying away from a debate..

Please read my write up again.

I never said only Christianity contributed to science. (Even tho it has contributed the most).


Besides no one has debunked my claims. So whats the point of debating on trivialities.

I am never one to shy from a debate my friend.

sexylassie2:
Yeah, where did they get the money to finance their business enterprise from non Christian called Jews

Well the point is Chrsitians and Jews all come from the same God.

The God of Abraham.

Keep in mind there are two types of jews. I.e The normal jews we all know and the Messianic Jews.

So yea, even if they got it from Jews, they could as well have gotten it from messianic jews. You can't prove otherwise.

edoairways:
Jeromejnr here is one of them

They are confused lots.

sexylassie2:
Yeah Christianity is the foundation of western civilization but christianity didnt make western civilization rich rather trading and commerce.

Trading and commerce know no gods or religion, it is pure business.

O babe, we can go on and on.

So allow me list the founding fathers of trade and commerce in America who were Christian's.

James Madison

Dale Carnegie

John Rockerfeller

Cornelius Vanderbilt

JC penny

E.t.c

These made America what it is today.
The big timers of commerce were all Christians.

Bluezy13:
I don't need to.
I don't expect you to agree with my write up nor opt for a debate.
While writing, I was afraid you may not be learned enough to comprehend my point and
You proved me right.

By the way, that you don't agree with me doesn't mean you should accuse me of committing a blunder.
I didn't type "beget"
I typed "begat".
It is a Shakespearean language, a past tense. Please Correct it...that is if you'll comprehend this little favour

Lol I know your type.

They never come up with solid points to counter your claim. Instead they focus on trivialities.

But there is hope for you my man.

southniyikaye:
what do you wanna know exactly?

OP is confused.

sexylassie2:
I have one thing , jack ma an atheist donated almost a cargo plane of equipments for the whole continent

So churches getting rich from donations couldnt even donate quater of that to their nation

Hi Sexylassie,

Would you like a debate?

Well let me start by upending your write up.

Please read this excerpt about Jack Ma

"Jack Ma, China’s richest man and CEO of Alibaba Holding Company, gave an interview in September, 2014 that was posted on the Chinese internet site Taobao. He spoke about his views about what made America strong in history, saying that Christianity is the core of why the west did so well in history. But he also thinks that in the last 30 years, America has focused too much on war and Wall Street instead of investing in the Midwest and middle class and this is causing many of its current problems"


Would you like the link?

Ask and it shall be given.

Bluezy13:
I doubt you actually saw the four walls of a tertiary institution.

Atheism begat science.
Atheism gave rise to science.
The ancient philosophers through their doubtful mind of nature, of God, of mankind, ended up inventing almost everything you are enjoying today.
A little research should tell you that the history of all fields of study started with philosophers who were Occultists...Atheists.
They paved way for civilization.
Even ancient Egypt where civilization is believed to have started... although factually...traces of civilization can be found in other African countries such as Ethiopian... was never a Christian place.
Only ignoramuses tend to attribute civilization to Christianity when its roots can be traced to paganism.

Funny enough, fellow dumb beings of your category whose little research and study could have reset their brains are busy commending your daftness.

I would have thought you were knowledgeable enough for a debate, but when I saw your "Atheism beget science", I gave up. It ruined your whole write up.

Please do more research.

Churches are donating, Atheists are hiding behind their keyboard.

I get una time this quarantine period.

I have been seeing some deluded Athiest on here bashing religion and saying things like all religions (especially Christianity) are waiting for scientists to find a cure then they will thank God instead of the scientists.

First of all, many of those scientists are Christian's.

Secondly, most of the drugs you enjoy today were discovered by Christians e.g. Penicillin.

Thirdly, Hospitals were first founded by Christians.

Fourthly, United States were most of these cures come from was founded by strong Christian fathers who gave the country a good foundation.

Lastly, Athiests enjoy the benefits of Christian prayers today (although they don't know it). Because of this, most of them are still alive. But with that same breath, they choose to curse God.

So the question is, what has Athiesm contributed to the world?

shogsman:
You stopped making sense in the 2nd paragraph, thousands of doctors are toiling day and night working on a cure and you're saying crap,will the cure drop from heaven,you can be religious and intelligent at the same time.

You are the one that is very unintelligent.

Because thousands are working on a cure does not negate all I said.

If you were knowledgeable and had studied the bible, you will discover that even though God was working behind the scenes, he told men to as well do their part but without His help their part would have been useless.

This was shown over and over especially in the old testament.

But your hatred for God has blinded you and is aggressively dragging you down into hades like a goat led off for the slaughter. The enemy is fattening you up for the day of wrath but you are being deceived and also self deceived.

But there is hope. You can repent and turn to Jesus now and be saved.

If you hate the message, then what can I say but leave you in your blindness.

FlipModeSquade:


So he visited his faithfuls with plagues and diseases,to punish the unbelievers?

What a merciful god you serve..

Indeed He is merciful.

Fun fact:

Do you know there is always a scripture for every question you might throw at me?

Btw, these plagues are nothing compared to the Lake of fire he created. God in His mercies sometimes allows though things to wake ppl up to Him. He would rather have you suffer here and you wake up in repentance to Him as a result than Him leaving you in your foolishness and thereby end up in the fiery lake for all eternity.

But there are always those who question His ways and refuse to repent because they think they are more righteous than God or know more than Him.

The question is, will people repent from their foolish ways and stop asking silly questions?

FlipModeSquade:
You have neither answered the questions nor said anything..

Is your God waiting for me to repent before curing his faithfuls?

2 Chronicles 7:14:
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

masterP042:
No be God create the virus in the first place? Didn't he know it will affect the world and kill thousands of people, yet he allowed it. Oga abeg park well.
Always giving God the glory but he never takes the blame

At least you remind us of scriptures of things prophesied in the end times.

Revelations 16:9:

......and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.


So your own argument remains invalid.

Repent or perish.

HardMirror:
i guess everything we know about the virus today and how to prevent the spreading was revealed by your useless god

Revelations 16:9

..and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

FlipModeSquade:
People are already dying in their thousands,where is God?

He sits around picking his teeth while Scientists sweat night and day to find a cure..

Only for him and some other busy bodies to take the glory..

Expected this kind of comment as usual.

Reminds me of the scripture in the book of Revelations:

......and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

I thought some folks here said I was taking the Virus matter on my head 2 weeks ago. It doesn't affect black man blablabla, our Sun is hot blablabla e.t.c.

Continue your fantasyland.

Now I have seen videos around the world of people praying to God and also worshipping. Even leaders are seeking God for solution.

When the cure is finally found, some Atheists will say it's the doctors blabla....wer was God blabla.

I just love the way God works behind the scenes.

This is the reason why Lagosians especially should stop joking around. Because when the hospitals become overwhelmed, you can imagine with most nurses complacent attitude what is going to happen in the country.

May God help the black race.

Lucy001:
Na wa, Does Nigeria have the right equipment to handle the virus, we wish him quick recovery!

No they don't have capacity to handle it in large scale.

PrimadonnaO:
I'm living in fantasyland.

Why?

wolfenstein:
Let's be true to ourselves, have you guys seen just 1 person interviewed that is quarantined? All we see is numbers. Since there was money involved, cases started going up in Nigeria........


I LOVE MY COUNTRY

Dont be deceived, my Sis is a Doctor and she spoke of 3 cases before they were announced

Olalekank:
I thought we are not supposed to go out

Is it everyone that can enter BRT?
I don't see how people won't have bodily contact on danfo which is the popular means of transport.

Are you minding these guys.

If they want social distancing, they should make it complete. Not all these half baked rules.

What of people who cram themselves inside Danfo.