₦airaland Forum

Coleslove:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

And what gains are we going to make of this trend? Knowing the top thieves and their children.
Can a fathers sin be vested on the child? We can spend better time and space thinking talking our development as a country.

No Offence No Defence

Kind regards.

Jakumo:
Sargent "Jolly" Roger would make a good television talk-show host, and now that he is once again riding the wave of publicity in Nigeria, it is quite possible that legal and fiscal negotiations are under way even as we speak.

The Jolly Roger Show would sweep television ratings if launched with the right kind of global media fanfare, so in exchange for a mere 30% of all future earnings of the Jolly Roger Show, I hereby offer to personally coordinate all public relations aspects of this new and exciting chapter in African reality television.

I envision an Oprah Winfrey-style discussion format whose star guests would be drawn from that vast pool of present and past icons of the Nigerian underworld, from deposed military despots to 419 billionaires and narcotics trafficking kingpins, and yes, maybe even an occasional cameo appearance by one of Nigeria's "never-convictable" contract killing practitioners. The Jolly Roger Show would attract a younger, wealthier, upwardly-mobile, anything-goes demographic slice of Nigerian society who, like their mentor Sargent "Uzi " Roger, generally regard state criminal laws as being for reference only and applicable primarily to those who lack the balls to engage in crime.

You too talk!!

Yisraylite:
Christianity or Mithraism

Mercian Order of St.George

It is surprising that Christianity was to become the international religion, when one considers that the already well-established religion of Mithraism was a natural challenger for that title. Up until the time of the Emperor Constantine, it was the latter religion which was more popular within the framework of the Roman Empire, and Christianity was regarded as being only one sect amongst numerous other sects. It was only when Constantine decreed that Christianity was to be the state religion, that Mithraism, together with a host of other religions and sects, was put into the melting pot, and ideas of that religion, most suited for the Christian purpose, were absorbed into the new state-approved religion.

Mithraism, the religion followed by those who worshipped the sun god Mithra, originated in Persia about 400 BC, and was to spread its Pagan ideas as far west as the British Isles. In the early centuries of the Christian era, Mithraism was the most wide-spread religion in the Western World, and its remains are to be found in monuments scattered around the countries of Europe, which then comprised the known civilised world.

Mithra was regarded as created by, yet co-equal with, the Supreme Deity. Mithraists were Trinitarian, kept Sunday as their day of worship, and their chief festivals were what we know of as Christmas and Easter. Long before the advent of Jesus, Mithra was said to have been born of a virgin mother, in a cave, at the time of Christmas, and died on a cross at Easter. Baptism was practised, and the sign of the cross was made on the foreheads of all newly-baptised converts. Mithra was considered to be the saviour of the world, conferring on his followers an eternal life in Heaven, and, similar to the story of Jesus, he died to save all others, provided that they were his followers.

For three centuries both religions ran parallel, Mithraism first becoming known to the Romans in 70 BC, Christianity following a century later, and it wasn't until AD 377 that Christianity became sufficiently strong to suppress its former rival, although Mithraism was to remain a formidable opponent for some time after that, only slowly being forsaken by the people. It was only the absorption of many Mithraist ideas into Christianity which finally saw its downfall.

The big turning point was brought about by the Congress of Nicaea in AD 325. Constantine, a great supporter of the Christian religion, although not converting to it until the time of his decease, gathered together 2,000 leading figures in the world of theology, the idea being to bring about the advent of Christianity as the official state religion of Rome. It was out of this assembly that Jesus was formally declared to be the Son of God, and Saviour of Mankind, another slain saviour god, bringing up the tally of slain god-men to seventeen, of which Mithra, together with such men as Bel and Osiris, was included.

Just as Nicaea can be regarded as the birthplace of Christianity, so too it can be regarded as the graveyard of what we imagine Jesus taught. From that time onwards, Christianity was to absorb the superstitions of Mithraism, and many other older religions, and what was believed to have happened to earlier saviour gods, was made to centre around the Nazarene. The coming of Christianity under state control was to preserve it as a religion, and was the death knell of all other sects and cults within the Roman Empire.

Had Constantine decided to retain Mithraism as the official state religion, instead of putting Christianity in its place, it would have been the latter that would have been obliterated. To Constantine however, Christianity had one great advantage, it preached that repentant sinners would be forgiven their sins, provided that they were converted Christians at the time of their Passing, and Constantine had much to be forgiven for, He personally did not convert to the new religion until he was on his death bed, the reason being that only sins committed following conversion were accountable, so all sins committed by a convert, prior to conversion, didn't matter, and he could hardly have sinned too much whilst he was lying on his death bed. Mithraism could not offer the same comfort to a man like Constantine, who was regarded as being one of the worst mass-murderers of his time.

The Emperor Julian, who followed Constantine, went back to Mithraism, but his short reign of only two years could not change what Constantine had decreed. His defeat, and death, at the hands of the Persians, was used by the Christians as an argument in favour of the new, against the old, being looked upon as an omen that Christianity had divine approval. If Julian had been spared to reign some years longer, the entire history of international religion would almost certainly have been different.

Under Emperor Jovian, who followed Julian, the substitution of Christianity for Mithraism made further progress, and old Pagan beliefs, like the Virgin Birth, Baptism and Holy Trinity, became generally accepted as the basis of the state religion. The early Christian idea of Unitarianism was quickly squashed in favour of Trinitarianism, and those who refused to accept the Holy Trinity were put to the sword, the beginning of mass slaughter in the name of religion, which was to go on for centuries.

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Salaam(Peace)

zigbo:
please @jerrymania did u just discover photoshop or something. . .we knew about those things like way back in them days. . .u ve been going around posting rily dumb,annoying nd boring pictures. . . my friend get a job^{idleness kills}

what have you been doing with your life here "Nairaland". dont you even have fun or a sense of humour ?

Kress:
jerymwnia no offence bro but those lyrics where wack mehn,straight up garbage,u dey diss person bt you're not any better,what a shame.

[b]Punk! Better improve on your english. We know guys like you don't even know what lyrics are, and u don't even have the skill to put something down, the harder you try,the more you fail. So you are angry and disgusted at yourself,don't worry i'll find you a dustbin where u can dump your miserable and disenchanted life, please don't pour your anger on me. I wasnt writing that for fun or to match wordplay or punchlines,i'm not even a natural rapper. I write songs pig. So u better pay me respect because you can't do it like ME !!!
and punk if u've seen my reply to bolaji-broke ass u'll know i aint playing.I just had to play soft on joo-shit. why i'm i writing so much for this biatch

joo chet:
get a little piss out with the king

know it im the
KING JOO CHET that RULE Nairaland thrend

Yisraylite:
@ Jerrymania

According to the Hebrew scriptures:

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and [they] pour out drink offerings to hinder gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

davidy|an:
@davidylan

You are an example of what yorubas call "ode"

nigeria1:
last month the six state of the south south of  balyesa,delta,river, cross river, akwa ibom and edo state got collected    N41 billion from the federal of the total 116 billion to all the state.  this figure are from the ministry of finances.

So really the state of the south south collected 35.344% of the total revenue to state. which is high, but the money did not get to the people. what need to change is the way the money get to them. Look It should go to the local govt. I have said that over and over again. Let the derivation go to oil producing local govt and not the state,  And you would see a change in the people life,

http://NigeriaONE.com

olabowale:
@Davidylan: Your medical Book, what if a disease like cancer is reduced to footnote, yet it is still a top killer, because there is no cure for it. How will the medical community treat such a decision, by the publisher, author, etc? We are talking about Word of God here, being reduced to footnotes?

olabowale:
@Nwando: I am very carnal. I agree. In my head. May God Almighty forgive me. Unlike those who may not be carnal, but they fornicate and/or perform adultery.
Whats your thought? To not talk about it, but do it? Or be tempted to doing it, but never, but only talk about it? Which one is better? We are not talking about perfection here. Nor are we talking about excellency. We are talking about striving towards excellence?

combatant:
[b]"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Deuteronomy 22:20-21: But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.


1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT: Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. [/b]

so you mean Evangelist David (who ever that is) said these things? .

nwando:
Is this character angry with the Bible or angry with one quoting the Bible.
Somebody needs some elavil

davidylan:
lol you quote the scriptures and then promptly use your human reasoning to rationalise things that can only be discerned by the Spirit.

1  Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

When you talk about "basic understanding" are you refering to the understanding that 2 + 2 = 4?
Sorry sir - Isaiah 55: 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
  9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Back to the verse that makes you stumble; Indeed NO man hath seen the Lord . . .  1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Take a good look at what Paul infers in that verse in 1 Timothy . . . he categorically confirms that Jesus Christ indeed was and is GOD only manifesting in human flesh. God in all His glory cannot die, He needed to become like me and you, to be hungry like you and i, to feel pain, to suffer thirst just like you and me and to finally shed His blood on the cross that you and me may have eternal life.

Yes no man hath seen the Lord but we shall see Him one day when He comes on the wings of the clouds to take us home. Remember the visit of the 3 angels to Abraham? No man hath never seen angels but Abraham could correctly discern that he had been visited by angels in human form.

I was begining to believe you but now you sure do stink to me. So who did Lot see? chickens? Gideon? frog? John? leprechauns? Gudnite!

davidylan:
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It amazes me how you've got a great arsenal of verses to defend yourself when you run out of steam. You've proven to me you know nothing at all and i was respecting your opinions all the while. Your best bet is with the Muslims, keep on bashing them. i'm out

davidylan:
That is the beauty of christianity. You are allowed the freedom of choice. . . to read the bible and form your own oppinion based on the interpretation of the Holy Spirit or your carnal, unsaved soul.
You don't have the basic understanding of the scriptures so your cries of "this is entirely a new doctrine" is hogwash at best. Start from trying to understand the pslams before jumping to read the book of John. We all started from psalm 23 too.

Back to addressing your penchant of just quoting scriptures and interpreting them based on your poor level of comprehension . . . The same Jesus Christ who made the statement "Father into thy hands i commend my Spirit . . ." was the very same one who made the following statements:

John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Care to explain what Jesus Christ was trying to convey in John 14 to us o thou man of immense "reasoning"?