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Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 2:54pm On Feb 15, 2018
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Nowenuse:



Absolute nonsense. You just type any trash that comes into your head as I have observed. You lack coherent cognition.

There is only 1 point I am going to respond to in your speech cos the others are trash.

See, our people never chose Hausa language to be imposed on us, it was done by the British in connivance with the fulani emirs because they wanted a unified administrative region.

The christian missionaries who came to the middlebelt (Plateau, Taraba, Southern kaduna axis specifically) and saw how ethnically diverse the people were, they wanted to use NGAS LANGUAGE (one of the major languages in Plateau state) , as the sole language for evangelism. This was because the Sudan united missionaries first landed in Pankshin and had learnt Ngas and first translated the English bible to Ngas.

There was an Ngas bible first before a Hausa bible existed.

Had it been that the British allowed this evangelism with Ngas language, by now, almost all northern christians would have been speaking Ngas language by now and would have been heavily united as one people.

Cos, prior to christianity, Plateau people and most northern christian tribes never spoke hausa. Christianity was what brought about the use of Hausa language.

This was exactly what the British wanted to avoid. They did not want to have 2 large major ethnic groups in their monolithic north, as it would affect their administrative convenience of indirect rule.

It was a pure British handwork. Cos fulani jihadists were defeated and disgraced by Plateau tribes and many other northern christian tribes during Danfodio's spread of islam.

Cc sasalite, konquest, Dirkcoyt


grin You don't feel ashamed to lie, Christians plateau tribe with no name , no kingdom , primates defeated and disgraced a caliphate. Name the fulani jahadist that's was defeated and the Christians that defeated him.

Cristian community don't even exist during those times its just that you are bloody illtreated , dunce plz I don't discuss with shameless liars.
Quote me no more .
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 10:01pm On Feb 13, 2018
Baaballiyo:


One thing about Hausa people is, no matter where they live or settled even if they do not hold on to the Hausa culture they almost certainly hold on to the language. Hardly u find a native Hausa wherever he/she might be, so long as he/she grow with some elders then he/she can speak the language. And Hausa ppl don't care wether they learn another language or not, it's amazing to meet Chinese, Lebanese and Arabs that speak Hausa . I used to laugh and marvel at the accent of the Chinese cheesy .


99% right smiley

True talk bahaushe generally don't joke with his language, to hausa people their language (hausa) is the must important aspect of their culture because hausa believe is only when you keep your language that your will reserve your culture. When language dies culture begin die little by little.

Hausa generally cares to learn other tribes language

wink I want to learn Fulatanci and Zarma , cheesy Na iya Hindi da turanci kadan kadan.

You know, It might seem like hausa people generally don't gave a hoot about others people language, But we actually do care to learn new languages, infact i can say no tribe loves learning new languages than Hausa, if other tribes haven't abandoned their mother tongue all hausa in Nigeria would certainly be multilinguals. When tribes haven't force their languages on themselves why would anybody want to learn a dead language.

cool Hausa takes much pride in being multilingual, You know it's a sign of being smart and interlectual person to be able to understand as many language as possible. A typical hausa with informal education would likely strive to learn arabic and those with formal education would love to learn English, French, Germans and maybe Chinise. In my opinion these are the languages we hausa would what to learn mainly because learning them creat uppertunities for us just like must people from the above countries that chose to learn hausa they do because they see uppertunities in doing so.

Do minority Hausa crosses African countries preserve the hausa language

In Africans countries where other tribes keep their languages you will find out hausa people have aswell learn to use those tribes language the only difference is Hausa will never dump their mother tongue in favor of other people language and that's even if they (hausa) happen to be a minority tribe.
A case in point are the hausa people in African countries like (Cameroon, Gabon, Sudan, Ghana, Eritrea) you will notice hausa people thus being minorities, had only not learned other tribes languages but also managed kept theirs sound and alive (from generations to generations) hence influence other tribe people to learn hausa language aswell.

Here is a video link of Eritrean hausa (Takharir) singing in hausa language while hausa and other tribes dance during Eritrean festival 2015. Watch your will find it's fascinating. cheesy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC_TvljT4bg
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Even here in Northern Nigeria you will see hausa speaking Fulatanci (Fulfulde) , Kanuri, zarmanci (Songhai) ,Dakarci it's because they had reside in village, town and cities of those tribes. What differentiates those tribes is we hausa don't speaks other language (like English) to our fellow hausa . Even if you are Igbo or Yoruba once you showed me you understand hausa then it's the language we are going to discuss with.

In Niger Republic

More than half of the Hausa from Niger Republic speaks two or more languages. Unlick Nigerians, Niger republic people as whole tend to be multilingual. I love them for that.

That's how it should be in Nigeria , People shouldn't joke with their native language for it's the must important aspects of their culture. When language dies culture follow dies with it, that's why we all should value mother languages above any language.

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Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 1:47am On Feb 12, 2018
macof:


oponu just shut up. Kwara is different from Ilorin. Emir of Ilorin is not the head of all of Kwara. There are many Obas in Kwara. And you have no say in this issue so who gives a fvck if you have a problem with that or not?

look at the nonsense angry

Obas in Kwara state are villages chiefs/heads grin compare Emir of Illorin cool They all are mire servants cheesy and Infact an emir can punished, disgrace and impeach them. cool nothing will happen.

I have a say, illorin is under SOkoto caliphate and I'm decendernt of Abdullahin Gwandu. Show some respect. angry ko Kaci
Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 1:30am On Feb 12, 2018
Nowenuse:


You are just saying rubbish.

There is no group of christians in the north, whether maguzawa, dakarkari, marghi, kataf, tangale or whatever, who sees hausa muslims as their brothers!

We used to do so in the past, but not now that our eyes have been open to the evil and satanic agenda of you Hausa-fulani muslims. Nonsense!

Also, make no mistake and don't brag rubbish here. Hausa-fulanis have and can never absorb any christian group in the north. The only group of people that Hausas have culturally absorbed are the Bauchi muslims.
There is no way any christian community or any tribe that has christian population in the north can be absorbed by Hausa. Hausa islamic culture and christian culture cannot mix! They are not mixable.


Why have Southern Kaduna people not been absorbed? Why have Zuru people not been absorbed in Kebbi & Zamfara? Why have Kurama people in Kano not been absorbed? Why have the Sayawa and other christian tribes in Bauchi south not been absorbed? These are people who share boundary with Hausa land, yet they have still maintainned their identity, culture & languages.

Cristian culture, What culture does Christians have? Is it the British language you adopted or the western cloth, you called cristian culture. Christians never wears cloth or speaks the western language you called cristian culture. Jesus never speaks English, wear English cloth or own a church.

Whether tribes around hausa maintain their identity or don't we hausa will remind them who they are. We don't plan to absorb any tribe that's why said nobody should claim us just because they can speak our language. Like the other fraud called satellite who said he is Christian but at thesame time claim to be Hausa Maguzawa (pagan hausa) claiming two religion who is he fooling.

Him and other northern Christians like you manage to avoid Islamic religion for you perceived it as (Hausa religion) , You failed to avoid Hausa language. (You aren't a real hater)

Talking about culture and religion. Your people have for long bieng forced to dump their language, Pagansm religion in exchange for western civilization and unfortunately for you in the next
50 years from now their will be a total extinction of your tribe languages , Cultures In favor of western civilization, in years to come you will be no different from you distance cousins in America and Britain that were taken for slavery and lost everything about their culture, language.

Anyway Hausa and English had already made other northern language obsolete. I'm proud Hausa whom have keep his culture and language whereever im today and so will always brag about it cool
Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 8:19pm On Feb 11, 2018
Y0ruba:



1. There’s nothing like Yoruba mislim or Yoruba Christian, a Yoruba is a Yoruba. This is why Yoruba who are thorough muslims from the south do not understand some Ilorin who try to be Muslim in religion but Fulani in identity. Yoruba generally put religion in the back and their culture in the front. You should see how a lot of us feel about Mr. Ishaq Akintola.

2. Unfortunately, the Yoruba Kwara know they do not need the North. Most of them know they would never be equal partners in the Caliphate. Saraki is the obe forcing the state into Northern thing.

3. One Emir was killed and another was sent to Sokoto. The British saved the dynasty by installing a Fulani back on the throne.

4. Kwara is not Islamic state. Ilorin an Islamic state and Yoruba are ruled by Oba not Emir. See Iwo town that is more Islamic than Ilorin.

5. See Mohammed Lawal’s policies. See the Afonja Descendant’s Union struggles. See the general opinion of Ilorin indigenes. It is so bad that to cope with the emirship, they refer to the emir as Oba. A some of coping mechanism.

6. And when it happens, what are you going to do bro?


1. Yoruba is Yoruba but you are deceiving yourself bro
when you said their are no yoruba Muslims and Yoruba Christians, they are the minority whom igbos sees as easy target to brainwash. Just be happy that you could stay United as tribe despite grin smartass igbos wanting to devide you instead of forcausing on how to united within their tribe and neighboring tribes.

2. We are equal partner cool we are Muslim and nobody is above other, have some fulani mixed yoruba relatives and friend from Kwara. Are you from Kwara?

3. Kwara is Islamic State, illorin it capital is rule by Emir and his people. In Kwara Oba is just a traditional title not mire than maigari given, In other Yoruba land like Lagos Oba might be an important (traditional) ruler.

4. One Emir was killed and another was sent to Sokoto. The British saved the dynasty by installing a Fulani back on the throne..... smiley interesting, would love to know more.

5. Dynasty could change, it could be hooping from one tribe tO other i have no problem with that. All that matters they are all brothers bound by blood and Islam and actually it will still be cool if pure blooded yoruba took over cool the Afterall they muslim brothers.
Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 7:23pm On Feb 11, 2018
sasalite:


I will try my best to answer your questions

1) Not all Maguzawa are Christians, we still have pagan Hausas till tomorrow, but we are praying, working and hoping to see them saved so as to salvage what is left of our tribemen. Hausa Muslims are mostly mixed with other tribes like the Baburawa, Margi, Nupe, e.t.c. For those, the Hausa culture is the same as Islamic culture. But there are few pure Hausa muslims left who still take pride in their Hausa heritage.

2) Yes, Masihiyawa remains the mother-body for Christians of Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri extract. But if you are interested in the number for only pure Hausa Christians then 85% of Masihiyawa membership will be the figure. The Fulanis and Kanuris will cover 10% while 5% goes to other tribes who join in disguise as Hausas just for future benefits. But we know them by mere looking, its in the blood. In total, the Hausa tribe is estimated to be above 70 million all over Africa and only about 5% are non muslims publicly (There are hidden Christians among the "Muslims" out of fear of death). Hausa Christians cover about 85% of the non muslim Hausas. But this is a rough estimate based on my own personal knowledge of my people. The real figures may differ.

3) I can only tell you of local government areas in Kano state where Hausa Christians are concentrated, these includes Tudun Wada, Doguwa, Sumaila, Rogo, Takai, Rano and Bebeji (Southern Kano). There is something about North and South in this world.

4) Yes, we are indeed heavily discriminated against in our respective home states; most of our muslim tribesmen see us as the painful truth about Islam's failure to completely wipe out the Hausa culture and change our history to suit Islam. While I was in ABU Zaria, a lecturer in my department upon discovering I was a Christian told me to my face that " You are a virus in Kano state, and we will make sure the state is cured". The discrimination is worst than you think for us because they see us as a disgrace.

5) Most muslims use the name "Maguzawa" as an insult to any Hausa person who rejects Islam. Personally, am not offended by the name because YES, I REJECT ISLAM AND WILL FOREVER DO SO BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND THE TRUTH. My ancestors were right when they rejected Islam and paved the way for us to find Christ easily. This has been my family's legacy and it will not fail in my time.

And to add some information, the Maguzawas also have a name for Hausa Muslims which depicts how we view them, the name is "Nasili". It depicts a lazy, dirty, hypocrite who is a thief and has lost the honor, trustworthiness, humility, courtesy and integrity of the original Hausa man.



The reason why hausa people are estimated to be 70 Million people are your kind whom have lost their culture and language infavor of Hausa. You are not Hausa you are just a fraud who has no history or culture and tribe tO call his so. This serves as consequences that we will forever faced for accommodating and having other tribes embrace our language. Every piece of shit will be wanting to claim our tribe just because he/she speaks our language.

Hausawa we knows ourselves , hide your true identity behind screen lieying to be hausa, foolish you don't know you are disgracing yourself. The rubbish you type exposed you , No hausa will read what you wrote and be convinced you are Hausa.

You are cristian and you are claiming to be Bamaguje bloody liar, Hausa Muslims will never call a cristian bamaguje, The Word Maguzawa refers to the Hausa pagans and them alone .Even if you a pagan or Christian you don't falls under Maguzawa but Arna. Hausa calls people arna(group) arne(m) arniya(f) to not only show he is none muslim but to also show disdain that he is not from the hausa tribe. Even a Hausa cristian should only be call a Kirista. You will have to be Hausa by tribe plus followed hausa paganism for you to be term Bamaguje.

You commenteds shows you are not Hausa. Because a bamaguje knows that nobody on this earth loves him more than his Hausa brothers, because they don't discriminate against him and will always be on his side as long as his not quelty. If maguzawa still exist today it's because Islam was never impose on them.

And unlike cristian and fraud . The maguzawa nevers sees fulani or hausa as their enemies because they are the people they grown up and live with. Heck not even a christian dakarkari tribemen will sees Hausa or fulani as his enemy because of the love and respect they between. Said you are hoping to acclaim you tribemen into light of Cristianity.

Said you still have pagans but you are hoping and working hard to see them saved so as to salvage Wat is left of tribemen. Who are your tribemen that you are hoping of rescuing and how do you intend to save them?, from what/who do you want to save them? Shameless
Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 2:37pm On Feb 11, 2018
Y0ruba:


Bro, the change in leadership in Ilorin is not religion based but cultural. Over the years, there have been repeated efforts to dislodge Fulani lineage from the the throne but they were saved by the British, the pro-North coupists and recently by Bukola Saraki who reverted all the slow but progressive changes made the late Mohammed Lawal.

The thing about Ilorin Yoruba is they are:

1. Proud people who feel insulted to be relegated below a ‘foreigner’ in their own land. Interestingly, the Fulani emir fights tooth and nail to keep Yoruba rulers in that state at low class grade and if possible dislodge them and place their towns under him. E.g the Afonja, Alabomu & Ajikobi in Ilorin; and Jebba & Ekiti areas.

2. The Youba people of Ilorin over the years have come to realize they are not and will never be Fulani or Hausa no matter how they obliterate their own identities to fit in and they will, regardless of their education and exposure be servants at max in the caliphate scheme of things. The Sarakis, especially the father and then Senate president’ have learnt this the hard way.

3. The Yoruba Ilorin have contact with their fellow Yoruba who are muslims, christians and traditionalist in the Southwest. They Ilorin feel different and are treated differently by their kith and kin. In fact they are veiwed under the lens of suspicion by their kin folk who see them as Hausa/Fulani meanwhile the Yoruba Ilorin tries hard to embrace and be embraced as a fellow Yoruba. They know this stems from the Fulani emirship which consciously and unconsciously drives them to act and try very much to be Fulani. Also, the philosophy of the Yoruba is ‘Oba lo ni ile and the people’ that is the king owns the land and the people. Which means whatever the king is determines what the people are. This is why the average Yoruba man struggles to separate Oba Bini whose ancestor is Yoruba from Bini people who are not Yoruba - my people automatically assume since the Oba is of Yoruba origin, this automatically means the people are Yoruba for a people cannot accept a stranger or some not of their own stock rule over them. This same ideology extends to Ilorin & they find it hard to accept the emir ruling over mostly Yoruba might have become ‘Yorubanized’ rather, they think the people have become ‘Fulanized’.

Hence, the struggle for the overthrow of Fulani emir will continue or at max, the division of Ilorin as can be seen in a colonial comission recommendation which the North hijacked. If you look at Kwara North and Kwara South (inclusive of Ilorin south and west I think) you will observe the palpable difference with the South being the hub of the enthronement of Oba in Ilorin because that is where the Yoruba are.

It is beyond religion sir, it is cultural.



In the Sokoto caliphate which illorin emirate is part of, only emirship should be acknowledged, The uba is needless , kwarans Muslims doesn't need an uba, Youruba Christians and igbos from down south are the who hates everything Islam so are suggesting for Kwara to have an uba.

Yoruba Christians in South whether they recognized Kwarans as their brothers or as fulani it's their own problem. Kwaran knows who they are and needs north body acceptance.

Fulani where not save by the British , British can't save them. Kwara is Islamic State and needs no traditional ruler to be above Islamic ruler that's won't happen. The current dynasty of emir of illorin will never be dethrone.
Culture / Re: Question For The Hausa On NL by JikanBaura(m): 11:00pm On Feb 10, 2018
Fulaman198:
Now, we know that Maigari is definitely a Hausa name, but what about the surname Maiga which is often attributed to Songhai/Zarma. Did the name Maiga come from Maigari? Thanks!

Maiga is zabarmawa name as you suggested. It means Dan zaki and every different from hausa Mai gari (Village master) it's a royal titled.

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Culture / Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by JikanBaura(m): 7:43pm On Feb 10, 2018
Whatever might happen , The bond between Muslims Kwarans (in irrespective of their tribe) will and can never be replaced with nonbelievers. YORUBA and Fulani and other ethnic group of Gwarans are Muslims brothers and if today Kwarans Muslimci should come out and said we want a Kwaran who is not Fulani by tribe to be our emir so be it. One can only feel bad about if he thought things are not done on the right cause. But the majority Muslims won.

Igbos that's are hating. Let's me advice you ignorant with no civilization. You are hoping to creat conflicts within Muslims, Yoruba Muslims we forever choose a Fulani muslim Over igbo infidel. An Igbo muslim is no inferior to a Fulani muslim in the eyes of Yoruba Muslim. Those igbos that think they can replace fulani are deceiving themselves.

We knows very well you hate Islam, Muslims and as whole you hate every tribe in this country stop giving funny advice like you cares. Yoruba kwarans knows very well you hates them and they will prefer Fulani over you anyday anywhere. Likewise Hausa we will choose Yoruba over you anytime anywhere. Ungrateful losers.

Islam Muslims were the reason some some Muslims (who heppen tO be fulani) became to be emirs in Kwara and only that Islam and Muslims can change that right away. Kwaran let's a pious muslims among you be your leaders even if he's a tiv. If their is need to change emir and you can do it just don't allow ethnicity be your reason. Let Islam be the reason.
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 2:49pm On Feb 10, 2018
Baaballiyo:


Yes they're indeed of Hausa stock and most were a remnant of Old hajj and old businesses, in the days of Sardauna people of Northern Nigerian stock were highly respected by the Saudis, and can settled there easily, at that time Nigeria was wealthier than Saudi and Sardauna was highly respected and revered by the saudi Royal house. So most of them are offsprings of Hausa Business class that settled there almost a century ago. So though not Arabs they're naturalized citizens of Saudi Arabia. Some where even abled to marry into some Saudi families, and this Hausawi are mostly Rich and middle class citizens in Saudi. The yan_Tarauni are the more recent immigrants (though there are also some that are of the old stock who where not recognised by the Saudi authorities as citizens but hv a resident permit) who are either are staying illegally in the Saudi or have a residence permit, unlike the Hausawi, their offsprings are mostly referred to as 'Yan Agulla' here in Kano. And a times they got deported but they almost always find their way back.

Their is Arabic rap song I watch on Arewa24 the song is titled agullah, Also watch the interview nomisegee have with the kid, ask him what the meaning of his song and it titled they boy said he's rapping about Hausa people like him that were born in Saudia, They are called Yan agullah, They boy live in rich neighborhood and show off the studio parents build him studio in their house. But like many, The dude said he have never been to Kano (Nigeria) (But nomisegee advice him to give a visit) his hausa isn't any different Kano's hausa the agullah boy spit bars in Arabic.
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 2:32pm On Feb 10, 2018
DevdanSanguine:
DanZubair Baaballiyo Fulaman198 JikanBaura

Question about the Hausawi of Saudi. There is a certain black population of Saudis who carry the surname Hausawi like footballers Omar and Osama hausawi.

Saudis I have spoken to have confirmed that these people are indeed from Nigeria and I'm sure that these people are hausas.

My question is how on earth did they get their, establish themselves and even become accepted as Saudi citizens.

Are these remnants from old hajj days or are they more recent travellers or who people refer to as, and I'm not sure of this "Yan tarauni" or something like that?



We Got there grin On Donkeys, Camels, Horses and maybe some on foot. God accept them so Eveybody will. Takharir is what they are collectively call together with other tribes.

The Eritrean Takharir Hausa astonished me the must, Before I thought the Takharir hausa of Saudi Arabia were only able to preserved the Hausa language and culture because their were continues follows of Thousands Nigerians Hausa speakers in and out of Saudi Arabia, Hence making it alot more easier for Saudi Hausa to retain their language and culture. But Eritrean hausa change my thinking, Because they also just not only retained their culture but made bargO people adopt the hausa language, Culture and have Eritrean tribes respect and accepted them the way they are. cheesy Hausa participate as spreated tribe in eritrean traditional festival organize and carried out annually by the Eritrean government and judging by the Expo videos I watched, It's gave me the impression that my people are well appreciated smiley despite their difference in Nature, History, Culture and Language. Will post their Unique cultural display. cool


But Really it doesn't surprised me that their are Hausa in Saudi Arabia (Knows that since childhood) being hearing about Takari hausa and how our grandparents went to pilgrimage on camels. How hausa are able to reserve their culture and language is what surprises me the must and unbelievably influenced alot of saudi arabs and black Africans tO speak the hausa language for it's considered the lingu-franca of blacks west Africans.


While some of the hausa in saudi are recent some their grandparents got there centuries ago, Them , Their parents are born there some even married within arab tribes. Had an aunt whom was born their and was married to an arab her mother was Saudi arebian of KANO origin and my grandma late brother met her in saudiya during hajj then married.When my mom and grandma went to pilgrimage they reside at their home (Makka) .

Their is a notable Saudi Arabian hausa I came to knew ( watched her interview) Can't recall if it's on CNN or BBC but She's speaks fluent English with American accent grin (Bana matan hausawa ba) sunan ta smiley
Nawal al-Hawsawi The roser pack of Saudi Arabia (Ko waye roser pack? Oho) grin , She is said to be the first Saudi Arabian female pilot, being a female pilot in saudi is every uncommon ( 3months ago Saudi women are not even legalized to drive a car) and she's a license private pilot. She Have led many saudi women in protests, She's Married to a white American whom she converted to Islam at saudia, they are blessed adorable kids. If don't know about her you can check her out on Wikipedia. She's a nice woman ( A female activist) embarassed I follower her on instagram IG.

You know, it doesn't astonished me that their are Hausa in Saudi Arabia (Knows that since childhood) being hearing about Takari hausa and how our grandparents went to pilgrimage on camels. How hausa are able to reserve their culture and language is what surprises me the must and unbelievably alot of saudi arabs speaks hausa language for it's the lingu-franca of blacks living in saudia. Their is a Hausa Hip Hop artist called zoor with a father of Sudan origin and a Nigerian mother (Not Hausa) but said his mother is from Katsina he named her tribe and her area which I'm unable to recall , In an interview he had with Arewa24 zoor Said he never nor his parents have ever visited Hausaland, but Hausa together with arabic is what they speaks in the community.

Eritrean Hausa with their president smiley Wallahi i was full with joy watching them sang in Hausa.

Culture / Re: Which Tribe Bears The Most Difficult Names To Pronounce? by JikanBaura(m): 11:44pm On Feb 02, 2018
The tribe with the simplest pronouncing names is Hausa. Simple and sweetest names cool
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 6:06pm On Feb 02, 2018
Baaballiyo:


Thanks for calling me to this thread, actually I don't know how 'Garba' came to be, some even call it 'Garbaati'. But wud try and see if I can find out something about it.

From what i know Garba is a Hausa name given to male child who is named Abubakar.

Bukar, Bubakar , Bakar ,Bakari, Garbaati, Garba all are the hausa version of Abubakar. all the people that carried the above names , You will notice Abubakar is their Islamic name.

Buba a femouse fulani name is also drive from abubakar.
Culture / Re: R by JikanBaura(m): 8:06pm On Feb 01, 2018
DevdanSanguine:


LMAO

This is actually a pretty swell idea because I have been wondering why our history isn't promoted in school curriculums but rather that of the west. I'm glad Islamic schools dedicate time for this (mine didnt) But it's not enough in my opinion. We should have this included in our school history subjects. We spoke a little about this in IRS but it was just one single class and was quite brief.

Accounts given by Wikipedia and generally foreign sources will usually use an outsider's point of view and will be devoid of full information like local sources will. So I will definitely try to find these local books. I have a lot more studying to do. Not even a book worm but these days I find that reading these stories of our past ancestors brings me so much joy and excitement.

Thanks for the tips. Thought you lived in kebbi. I didn't know you live in Kaduna, so do I. Not in the country right now but will be back pretty soon.

You're 100% right, enough has not been done to promote history in our school curriculum, less people are striving to make it happen, to make history books available for readers, to put Nigeria history on ebooks but unfortunately the government is not doing it job nor do our emir and the sultanate want to do just that. As far as i know no emir is planning to save their history for it being deluted with lies. They care less but Al'hamdulillah some individuals (Malamman mu na addinin) ,tho few, are doing all they can (with their limited resources) to garder and published our history on books and internet because. The The private books publishing companies of Nigeria also don't see anything worthy about their people history to publish. They are not interested in publishing history books cuz they think it won't bring them money. But like i said Masha'Allah some of our Muslim brothers are funding that because they have a history to tell, History that they are wholly proud of and it worth their money, time and effort.

Kai kamar kowa a, Indai Kai dan arewa ne zakaso jin tarahin Kasar ka, mukanyu Murna da zamudi. Kasan Allah dalibbai a Islamiya duk a Birnin Kebbi basa son missing makarata ranar Narna dan Kawai ranar tarihi ce.

:Dkana ta suburbudo turanci haka, ni na fara gajiya.. Ku yan KD bakuda dama cheesy cool

Amma fa You got it right. I'm from Birnin Kebbi and just like Kaduna, kebbi also has tudun'wada area. I assume the area exists in all hausa state.

Baka kasa, Toh Allah ya maida kai gida lafiya. smiley
Culture / Re: R by JikanBaura(m): 5:14pm On Feb 01, 2018
DevdanSanguine:


Lol. I learn something new everyday. I've read these things in general but never bothered with the politics of it all. How did you come across all this info anyway?

grin lol your ancestors had been plying politics for centuries, You shouldn't be bothered by it ofcause. Its in your blood grin

Books and book men's


Majarasatul islamiya tudun'wada school system made me learn the little I know. Because a day was specially given specifiedly as history learning day.


I dont know much but the little I know is mainly source from books i read back then at islamiya or the ones our teachers read , i read 2 of Dan fodio books , (1) Nasifatu-Ahluzzaman (2)(Najmul-ihwan) , and some few books written by other authors but with historical reference to his books, others books.

and also oral history about unforgettable events are still wide spread.



The Sunni Islamic schools declared every Wednesday as history day , nothing is taught in islamiya on Wednesday but only history , History lectures about great muslim scholars messenger's and prophets, lecture are given in open space , all students gardered to heed and later ask questions irrespectively of class differences. If an ulama gave lecture this Wednesdays it Will takes him a month or further before he deliver another lecture again at that same school.

Attended and heed to Islamic lectures that history is the subject. Mallam abas jega, Giro and Albani

Their also history books sold out in markets throughout sokoto and Kebbi, tho some of them carry facts their are two hiccups in them ( So we are not advice to read them but with Money one can hardly refused the keenness to buy or flipping through them.

Internet source like wikipedia , encolopedia take ko me grin makes history boring plus not all information puted their are fact, plus it doesn't say much about hausaland history and it don't say about his 12 grandparents whom where all born in Hausa land, it unfair Dan Fodio because it don't mentioned about his life before 1804, Plus it carries lots of wrong date,misinformation , Kai it totally corrupted piece of written.

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Culture / Re: R by JikanBaura(m): 8:14pm On Jan 31, 2018
DevdanSanguine:


What is the full ranking anyway?

Really i can't say but this are the few i knew.

Sarkin Katsina was the first person Dan FodiO sent a letter to but he torned it apart and become the first hausa king to be defeated. Ummarun-Dan-lajji (A Fiers Fulani) was the one who defeat him.

Zazzau is considered 3rd on ranking due it then ruler Jatau who was the second person Dan-Fodio sent aid letter to isayaku jatau and jatau was the only hausa king to have shown him support with armies, food and clothes, a his beloved son Yakubu (Dan Ladi) who later found Bauchi emirate he is said to be the only hausa to be chosen by Dan FodiO to lead jahad. In Najmul Ihwan (Shehu book) , Shehu talk why he fight yunfa/Yunpa and that same book, he praises sarki isayaku Jatau (Yakubu father)

After Sarkin zazzau Isyaku(Jatau) death , Musa ( A Fulani was elected as the new sarki over jatau son Muhammadu (Makau) for political reasons , Makau revolt by flying to form Suleja emirate.

The Kano replaced by a Suleimana dan abrahima was Muhammad alwalid he was said to had shown shehu support but after Sarki runfa sent him a letter threatening him, He changed his mind.

Here are the list of people who collects Flag from SOkoto.

1 Malam Umaru Dallaji—-Katsina.
2 Malam Sulaimanu—-Kano.
3 Malam Musa—-Zazzau.
4 Malam Gwani Muktar—-Borno.
5 Malam Sambo —-Hadeja.
6 Malam Modibbo Adama —-Adamawa.
7 Malam Buba Yaro —-Gwambe.
8 Malam Ibrahim Zaki —-Katagun.
9 Malam Dendo (Danyo) —-Nufe.
10 Malam Abdul-Alimu —-Ilorin.
11 Malam Isiyaku —-Daura.
12 Malam ‘Dantunku —-Kazaure.
13 Malam Yakubu —-Bauchi.
14 Malam Muhammadu Manga —-Misau.
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 6:10pm On Jan 31, 2018
DevdanSanguine:



Lmao! Radio Biafra Hausa? Yaushe kuma suka bude wannan? Indai abin da suke fatan hardasawa Kenan toh lallai bata lokacin su sukeyi. Wa ma zai tsaya Jin wani radio Biafra balle ma ya sauraresu? cheesy

Ni wata sa'in kuskuren da nikeyi shine gani Nike rashin sani ke sa su fadin wasu abubuwan da suke fadi. Amma yarda Naga kusan dukkansu Abu daya suke maimaitawa to inagi da gaskiyan Ka, tabbas nema kawai sukeyi su raba Kan mu, Basu San mun fi su wayo ba. Zan bi shawaran Ka na rabu dasu kawai.


Bawai rashin sani ba ne kadai Ke damunsu ba. Basu sani ba kuma basu son sani, Dan hassada da qiyayya ba za su barsu ba. zaka iya kula su dan lallai wasun kan rashin sani ne smiley Sai dai zanso ka kiyaye wasunsu tsOkana ne Kawai wallahi grin

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Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 5:05pm On Jan 31, 2018
DevdanSanguine:


Just checked your posts to confirm you're a south easterner who apparently created his account solely to bash fulanis. If I had seen this earlier I would have definitely not bothered to write all of that. Mark me, I have completely given up on you lot.

cheesy( Kapin na Karanta wan'nan tinani na shine, wan'nan baya gajiya da wahala , aiki baya ma yawa ba grin . Ko dai baya san inyamurai ba ne grin ,Sufa ko ta yaya dai su ga bayan mu. Tsananin jahilci, rashin sani da wauta wai ta hanyar Kabilanci suke fatar had'dasa fada tsakanin Hausa - Fulani cheesy wai hada bude radio biafra
hausa grin Lol

Bro ya naga sunan naka kamar dai indiya-indiya haka cool

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Culture / Re: R by JikanBaura(m): 3:14pm On Jan 31, 2018
Prechbills:
The post of the Sultan of Sokoto which is currently occupied by Sa'adu Abubakar and the post of the Emir of Kano which is currently occupied by Sanusi Lamido Sanusi which is more relevant?

Please share your opinions
Post to FP

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You are asking between an emir and a sultan who is more relevant.

Sultan is to president as emirs are like governors.

We only have one sultan all the emirs are subject to him. Like someone here mention emir of Kano is not even close to emir of Gwandu in terms of ranking, Kano emirate is after Zazzau.

Kano has an advantage of population but it's still no where close to sultanate of Sokoto up till date.

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Culture / Re: Emir Of Kano's Fleet Of Cars In 1956 (Photo) by JikanBaura(m): 8:13pm On Jan 27, 2018
lakesider:

When was your ancestors thought how to wear cloths ?

You Murder him grin

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Politics / Re: Benue State Belongs To The Fulani By Right Of Conquest - Prof. Labdo Muhammad by JikanBaura(m): 4:20pm On Jan 25, 2018
laudate:


I wonder, o! shocked Never heard of the Igbo fighting against any Jihadists, when I studied history in school. We all heard of the Ekumeku war, the Aba women's riot, but never heard of Igbo communities confronting Sokoto marauders in any war.

Forget mumu grin Igbos, when do do even starts wearing clothes? cheesy British adopt igbOs war tactics they used once against hausa grin to defeat us. Chaiiiii , mumu knows nothing. Not even all the hausa states or goes to war with the British. Argungu for example don't went to war with the British they welcomed them with open arms. Mumus grin Between hausa and igbos whom were ruled indirectly? ask am for me cheesy
Culture / Re: Real Hausa Native Names And Their Meanings by JikanBaura(m): 3:46pm On Jan 25, 2018
cheesy Hajiya SHEKARA cheesy My great grandmother name cheesy My late father loves her so much that he named his company after her name SHEKARA .


Knows the ancient meaning of the name Baura but i wanna hear somebody own version. smiley Ina hausawan mu?

This are names of some of my grandmother's translate them for me. grin

Inna tani

Hajiya Amare

Hajiya iko

Hajo

Hajiya Kande

Hajiya Ta'mallam

Hajiya Kulu

Igge

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Politics / Re: Nigerians Protest In UK Over Killing Of Benue People By Fulani Herdsmen(pics,vid by JikanBaura(m): 12:03am On Jan 23, 2018
Bunches of illiterates, I you can protest all you want Fulani we will not forgive or forget our fellow Fulani that were murdered in thousands, Do refused to condemn the killing of Fulani herdsmen and now that we take revenge you jobless idiots are busy protesting. Your protest won't change anything, I ungreatful idiots.
Culture / Re: These Wodaabe Fulbe Are Darker Than Usual by JikanBaura(m): 1:16am On Jan 22, 2018
They are seem darker because they are more expose to sun and they are the unrest people, They herd cows true out their life.

Fulani came in Brown, Extreme Fair and dark skinned. but some black skin fulani are not as black as they might look, With wealth and less stressed you will watch them transform to brown. grin
Culture / Re: Talents Of Our Different Tribes by JikanBaura(m): 1:02am On Jan 22, 2018
Yoruba : Are Bright people smiley , Can cook cheesy , Their Girls are heartwarming, Very Friendly people . kiss , Party Tribe, Cheerful. Smart tribe , Romantic. Caring, Forgiving.

Bad Qualities: They are Hypocrites, Very Dirty, Their men are Mayun mata ne grin went gaga when they see light skin girls , Yoruba cheat in relationship. They like
to much partying. Greed. Noisy tribe.


Igbos

Good Qualities: Self-reliance, Hard working. Beautiful girls cheesy( With classWould do anything for the man they love). Played hard to get cheesy.Tall Handsome men. cool


Bad Qualities: Fraudsters, Betrayal for wealth and Political position, Alcohol is their synonym. Disrespectful. Loud people angry to much love for money. Genetically unfit. grin

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Culture / Re: Talents Of Our Different Tribes by JikanBaura(m): 12:29am On Jan 22, 2018
OP you should learn more about Fulani and Hausa. I know you surely knows they are not desame tribe,
Stop being lazy grin

Oya now tongue Mentioned Hausa and Fulani tribe Good and bad qualities. This time around do it differently. smiley

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Culture / Re: Do Yorubas And Hausas Do Masqurades Like The Igbos/Ibibios? by JikanBaura(m): 12:09am On Jan 22, 2018
Hausa we don't do it.
Culture / Re: Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas - Are we too different? by JikanBaura(m): 12:04am On Jan 22, 2018
We are all Black Africans yeah but somehow we are linguistically , Culturally different also our history differ.
Politics / Re: Sule Lamido: "Buhari Hated Yar'adua; How He Treated Him" by JikanBaura(m): 5:12pm On Jan 19, 2018
His own problem
Politics / Re: FFK Reacts To Prof. Muhammad "Benue Belongs To Fulanis" Claim by JikanBaura(m): 2:52pm On Jan 19, 2018
Benue is part of the sokoto caliphate, that's was a fact cool
Politics / Re: Benue State Belongs To The Fulani By Right Of Conquest - Prof. Labdo Muhammad by JikanBaura(m): 12:29pm On Jan 18, 2018
rabzy:


Even if the whole Nigeria belongs to the Fulani, the whole world only know you as cowherders and nomads and terrorists nothing more.....thats not a great reputation. A lot of your lot are still mai-guards and cobblers. So owning whatever you claim to owe has not helped your people that much, you guys need to sit down and change your way of life to something more agreeable to modern norms. Even Saudi Arabia, the great unchangeable is changing.

So being world renowned Scammers, Cannibals, Baby factory, Kidnappers ,Ipob terrorist is a good reputation.
Culture / Re: Was Fulani History Truly Bloody? by JikanBaura(m): 12:23pm On Jan 18, 2018
Ofcause it's bloody,

Human history is bloody, The Chinese, The white ,Ancient Egyptians , Christians, I Muslims , Songhai, Buzaye, Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, I every human history is bloody.

All that matters is, is it for good cause or it's just not.

I don't know the history of Fulani from other part of the world but for Nigeria it's was bloody, I before the Islamic jahad in Hausaland , Hausa kindoms were fighting with each other and blood in was shed, Then Dan fodio lead the jahad in Hausaland tO defend himself and his da'awa movement for Hausa Kings with the exception of zazzau were trying to kill him, I Zazzau and alots of people from different states join the movement. In doing so alot of people from Hausaland had lost their lives , that's for good cause.

Muslims go to war when touched to protect their right to life, religion , a Fulani man lead the jahad therefore I fulani history in Nigeria was bloody like everyone tribe history was.

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