₦airaland Forum

Kazikazi:
Nothing is impossible.
In 1990 TZ GDP was $3.43 billion
In 1990 SA GDP was $115 billions. That was about 30 times of TZ gdp.Fast forward 2020, SA GDP is 4 times of TZ GDP.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/370513/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-south-africa/


https://www.statista.com/statistics/447604/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-tanzania/

Yes the TZ economy will grow faster as it is a Developing economy..........SA is a NICs hence it will grow at a slower rate!

samorobo:
It will be funny if this reform.you've been screaming about doesn't take effect

Yeah just imagine if we turn out as bad as Nigeria

Kazikazi:
You believed that story of 4%?

TZ will overtake SA.Take it or leave it.That is a closed deal.Is you don't believe it,just check how TZ was doing 20 years back. Check the gap btn SA & TZ in those days.

yes i believe it because i can see the reforms happening.

Secondly TZ isn't going to overtake SA...deal with it EOD

Kazikazi:
I checked the last link with a PDF.That is just a no sense.
I don't know why you guys wants to complicate simple things like crime? You have reached a point of thinking people commit crime because of being unemployed? Really? Was Gupta unemployed? Zuma? Etc?

Dude,know this from today..
People commit crime just because they can do it without being caught,and if in case they get caught,they wont be punished enough

You don't need some funny formula and new theories. Just catch the criminals and punish them enough.

Zimbabweans in Zimbabwe are not committing crime though they have a huge unemployment rate than SA.
The Zambians in Zambia don't commit much crime like SAns though the Zambians have huge unemployment.

There are white kids in SA from well to do families in Waterkloof in Pretoria and Also in Brynston suburb who have commited serious crimes though they have everything at home.why?...

You are the one talking nonsense..........I brought 3 credible scientific studies that support my argument..........You simply give your opinion and think that its a fact.

Kazikazi:
Yes,that will make TZ a big boy of east,central and southern Africa.
As you know,TZ economy grows by 7% annually, but upon completion of LNG,the economy will grow on avarage of 15% per annum. That will be enough to overtake South Africa,since SA is stagnant and there is no sign of revival anytime soon.

The only sad part of TZ is,we have delayed this project for too long.Not only that,but all other major mining projects were delayed because of changes in mining laws and reforms which was underway.

Besides gas, Our uraniums are still waiting.Liganga Iron ore and steel complex project($3 billion) it is still negotiated.

SAs economy is said to rebound by as much as 4% in 2021.........TZ ain't overtaking SA in this lifetime!!

Kazikazi:
Crime and unemployment is related?.That is a fallacy.
Malawians are too poor but they dont do crime.SAns are better off than most African nations,but still you have high rates of crime.

Educate yourself:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/320275

https://voxeu.org/article/relationship-between-job-displacement-and-crime

https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1069&context=parkplace

Austine1213:
Also by eradicating illegal immigration we do border control

Crime will decrease, counterfeit goods will decrease, country's revenue will increase

seconded

Just30:
the biggest share holders are in the US
and their shares make up 49% of the company

All this is noise

The most share are owned by Americans yes, however the biggest shareholder is the Public Investment Corp. of South Africa(SAn)

Kazikazi:
You always talk about small issues!
Reforms should start with
Corruption
Crime
Lab our laws and unions
A huge gov wage bill

- we've already seen the steps Ramaphosa has taken to tackle corruption.

-imo crime is directly correlated to unemployment once the economic reform policies take effect and the economic starts to grow we will see a decrease in crime.

- Tito(fin minister) has already set out plans to relax labour regulations for SMEs

- the Gov wage bill is a lot lower under Ramaphosa than under Zuma

Kazikazi:
And Mauritius?
Syschelles?

yes them to

mtisTheQubit:
its not about the test man..its about the sharp increase after nana ended the lockdown..anyway we shouldnt be arguing about ths...numbers dont lie, lets wait an see

The more test you do the higher the increase will be.... It's logic bro!!

Austine1213:
Do not confuse development with big GDP

In term of development GHANA, SWAZILAND, RWANDA, NAMIBIA, ETC are doing better than kenya

and Botswana

Just30:
Those are the biggest shareholders in SA

and all of SA shares is just 25% of the entire company shares

Get it now ?

those are the biggest shareholders in Anglogold Ashanti with 1.Public Investment Corp. of South Africa being the biggest shareholder of all.

And yes I know in total SA only own 25%

rvp20182:
Yes but no that fast...and it's facing competition from Maputo. South Africa is in a middle-class trap. It's not growing. It was under a recession last year. This year is of course chaos for everyone but South Africa has one world most depreciated currency and economy decelerate by as much as 4.5% - so expect the port to record a huge drop in traffic.

South Africa's economic problems are not temporary (COVID-19) - they are structural - starting with Eskom that has more debt than kenya total external debt(30B dollars) - and many other issues - on labor disputes, land, mining, and immigration.

SA has one of the most undervalued currencies, technically speaking it should be trading around R6 to the doller

Also as stated earlier the economic reform are already happening..... IPPs, the restructuring of Eskom, relaxed visa regulations, relaxed labour regulations ect ect ect

Austine1213:
Speaking of now covid19 happening, SA Economy will be structured in a new way

Even the education, with all university students being given laptops and data to do remote learning, provisions will be ongoing fir years to come

Already 13000 Zimbabweans deported in 30days, others will soon follow, with tightning of boarders

Treasury busy in making of new economy post covid19, 2021 SA expected to grow by 4%

Many changes expected

Some people don't want to believe me but the covid19 pandemic has been a blessing in disguise for SA.

The fact is Cyril and Tito now have the mandate to implement the economic reforms without opposition that we so desperately needed.

Toju200:
it's not yak bro L 15 Hongdu

Ok sorry that is a Zambian yak 130 Chinese clone

Just30:
you ain't making sense

OK let me spell it out for you:

The biggest shareholders in Anglogold Ashanti.

1.Public Investment Corp. of South Africa(SAn)
2.First Eagle Investment Management LLC(US)
3. Invested asset managemers pty Ltd (SAn)

Thus 2 of the biggest 3 shareholders are SAn......do you understand now?

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nemesis8u:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StWKT1in224

Now do the same but BVR

NuclearBomber:
Nigeria bought the highest spec of the VT-4 tanks. Ours is the most expensive at over $5million each because it is Full options with added enhancements, specified by our armoured experts. I can confirm that ours is Far higher that the Pakistani version. Don't ask my source, just take what I said. The choice and specifications was done by the Ministry of Defence; so this is not a crap army procurement. There are loads of more contracts that are not even public, including the Future Nigerian Frigate program, that is top notch.

SMH

kabe1:
Can someone ID this Aircraft, I've don't think I've seen it before.

Yak 130 jet trainer

kabe1:
GlobalEye surveillance aircraft.

This would be a very important system for the Nigerian Air Force. Although we currently have the ATR-70 which is currently undergoing deep upgrades in Germany and the King Air ISR, I think this system would give us more of an edge in surveillance.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmg0b2vG6rY

ATR-42 not 70

Just30:
neither is it South African

Fair enough, however Goldfields and MTN are South African

Just30:
you should have known i was referring to two different companies

I should've known? no bro you should've known as you simply said Goldfields which is a South African company...........If you said Ashanti Goldfields or something like than then different story.........Besides as you said Ashanti Goldfields does not exist anymore as it merged with AngloGold!!

Just30:
the biggest shareholders are American

In total yes but the biggest single shareholders are SAn

Just30:
South Africans holds just 25%

Yeah i know, technically its American , however the single biggest shareholders are South African

Just30:
ofcourse Goldfields is not the same as Ashanti Goldfields

Not all the directors are south African

You said Goldfields hence the misunderstanding

Most are, but not all as you stated

Just30:
It is registered as a merged company

Company profile on Ghana stock exchange

Incorporated on May 29,1944 in South Africa as Vaal Reefs Exploration and Mining Company Limited.The Company changed its name to Anglogold Limited on march 30, 1988 After a consolidation. On April 26, 2004,the Company merged with Ashanti Goldfields Company Limited to form AngloGold Ashanti Limited.

nothing like external

it has been operating since 1880

Ashanti Goldfields corporation is Ghanaian, AngloGold Ashanti is not...............

Just30:
There is a reason why two Ghanaians are selected unto it Independent Non Executive directors by the Ghanaian Government

Ghana only own 2% shareholding in AngloGold Ashanti............the biggest shareholders in AGA are South African companies.

Just30:
How do you think it became AngloGold Ashanti

a joint venture between two great companies does not make it just an SA company anymore

You said AngloGold and Goldfields are Ghanaian companies.

Goldfields Limited is not Ashanti Goldfields corporation...............This is where the confusion came in!!

As for AngloGold ashanti well imo it still a SAn company as the headquarters and Directors are all South African and Ghanaian shareholders only owns 2% of AngloGold Ashanti...................

Just30:
and it doesnt make it anyless a Ghanaian company

Who are the Directors, where is the headquarters and who is the majority stakeholder?

Just30:
same way AngloGold and Ashanti GoldFields are two different companies who merged to become a behemont corporation.

True,.