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rvp2018:
Lame excuses - for a country that started olympics in 1904! - you only missed from 1960 to 1990 - those are about 8 olympics - 2 of which kenya also boycotted.

Conclusion - you have more than twice kenya participation in olympics.

South Africa first participated at the Olympic Games in 1904, and sent athletes to compete in every Summer Olympic Games until 1960. After the passage of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1761 in 1962 in response to South Africa's policy of apartheid, the nation was barred from the Games.

it actual 15 to 20.......not double, but I will concede Kenya averages more medals per games than SA

rvp2018:
- You need to plan for new future without coal.
- Great - kenya and South Africa doing excellent in that basic education front. Dont shout about it - secondary and primary - are BASIC education.
- Now when it come to university and TIVET - please quote statistics.
- I gave you a link with total university and TIVET - split into private, public, whatever.
- Use it to argue intelligently - for once.

- You can enrol a million kids to universities but where are the JOBS? - With only 10Million formal jobs - I can only imagine the replacement rate of maybe 300k?

- The focus therefore should be on TIVET - so these people can get skills to create their own jobs - as carpenters,plumbers, mechanics - while also laying foundation for real industrialization - not just idle around drinking cheap beer and complaining about africa immigrants taking their jobs.

- Yes we have....hence billions of dollars investment for RE

- You never posted any links but here: https://www.careersportal.co.za/news/over-a-million-students-enrolled-in-university-for-2022

- Number of students enrolled in private colleges and universities was another 208000 in 2019, probably around the 250000 mark in 2022

- We subsidise unemployment remember!!

rvp2018:
None. Apartheid South Africa missed a lot because it denied black players the right to play sports. South Africa before apartheid and after apartheid participate in olympics as any civilized nation.

And South africa been participating since 1949 - while Kenya started in 1963 - boycotted twice due to RSA issues - so generally look for another excuse.


South Africa apartheid started becoming a global issue from 1960s

Read

jl115:
I didn't ask for a history lesson....I simply asked how many games did SA miss.........or let me rephrase how many games has SA competed in vs Kenya

gallivant:
Check with Adolf Hitler, I didn't keep tabs on oppression Olympics.

Lazy

rvp2018:
Kenya missed two olympics to protest inclusion of apartheid South Africa - 1976 and 1980 Summer Games - so we should be ahead.

1976
Host City: Montreal, Canada

Boycotting Countries: More than 20 mostly African countries and Taiwan

The Details: When New Zealand’s national rugby team defied an international sports embargo against South Africa and toured the apartheid nation earlier in the year, 28 African nations—comprising most of the continent—declared a boycott of the Olympics, which was allowing New Zealand to participate. Led by Tanzania, the boycott involved more than 400 athletes. In a separate action, Taiwan withdrew from the Games when Canada refused to let its team compete as the Republic of China.

Of Note: The boycott led to hotel and ticket refunds totaling $1 million Canadian dollars. It especially affected several track and field events, where nations such as Kenya and Tanzania were frequent medal winners.

I didn't ask for a history lesson....I simply asked how many games did SA miss.........or let me rephrase how many games has SA competed in vs Kenya

rvp2018:
- Nope. Coal is very very cheap and very very dirty. It's not even close. Solar & Wind you're looking at 5-10 usd cent per kwh - while coal is less than a cent. Prepare to pay for expensive power.

- Primary and Secondary attainment kenya is clocking 100% - first in Africa
" Following the recent introduction of a 100% transition policy, making 12 years of education available to all, primary to secondary transition rates increased from 83% in 2018 to 95% in the first quarter of 2020, according to the Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and Analysis (KIPPRA).
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- I am interested in post-secondary - I checked total enrollment for TIVET is 800K - that is very bad. Kenya is about 400-500K now - and we are targetting at least 4 million kids in TIVET by 2030.

- Remember you have only 10 million people formally employed - about 40M are out there in informal sector - at least 1/3 of of them jobless and idle - about 10M who are under 15yrs

- In conclusion you're stuck in middle class trap and you dont even know.

- You think ANC is the problem while the problem is elsewhere. 50 Tivet colleges with 800K total enrollment!!

- So coal is cheap...and we have a lot of it.......win win all round for us

- Not first.....South Africa hit 103% secondary enrolment in 2019: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.SEC.ENRR?locations=ZA

- The number of students that enrolled just at 26 public universities in 2022 is over 1 million.......how many you think enrolled at the other 300 private tertiary intuitions ?

- nobody said unemployment wasn't a problem.

- common sense was never your strong suite....over one million students just at our 26 public universities....

gallivant:
Free yourself from apartheid thinking. Kenya is the greatest.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8aDH2OWQAA14e6.jpg

How many games did SA miss?

gallivant:
Remove the shackles of apartheid before you talk to Kenyans shackman.

remove the shackles of starvation before you talk to South Africans

obaaderemi:
Here's Nduka Odizor's profile in tennis but you would hardly shout about it because he never came close to winning a grandslam. But he was far ahead of anything Kenyan dead or alive in tennis.

How can you be here hyping someone who never went beyond R2 in q grandslam? Kenyans and stvpidity.

I think Shma thinks R1 is better than being in a Final he said and I quote " the gap is huge"..............Ironically He was in fact right

obaaderemi:
You see why I stopped quoting his likes.

From his own screenshot, the South African highest rank was 52 while the kenyan's highest rank was 100. Probably he thinks the bigger the number the higher the ranking. That's why we have told them severally to stick to running.

The shame of it is that his master R I P is reading can see his blunders but will keep quiet as the small boy continues to shame Kenyan education, forgetting that all the other Kenyans look up to him for guidance. He would rather mislead them.

5th not 52nd

AfriqueDuZuid:
being ranked in top 5 is no easy task

The highest a kenyan was ranked is 100

Bra we've won nearly 20 major tennis titles....the dude is smoking some lekke skyf

Shma2022:
Davis cup is irrelevant. Any junior player who wins grand slam can easly dominate Davis cup... So yeah, no one cares about that.

Spoken by a man who has no idea what the Davis cup is

Shma2022:
But why are you talking about history, Cherry - picking grandmaster?

Focus on the status quo.

This is the record for our 18yrs old. Better than any existing or previous south African player.

Those are junior grandslams bru.....let me know when she ever gets past 1R in a real grandslam

Shma2022:
No. That's a lie.

No south African has ever won a grand slam tournament.

Kenyan, Paul wekesa has never win a grand slam either, but his record is way better than any south African -- both in Australia, France and US opens.

The first screenshot is for Paul wekesa... The second one is for your fellow Boer. The gap is huuuuge!

Also are you blind?? can you not read your own screen shot? Kevin made 2 finals while your guy couldn't even get past the 2 round?? Also look at the gap in wins vs loses

Kevin has won 354 matches and lost 253 matches...........your dude only won 27 matches and lost 43

Shma2022:
No. That's a lie.

No south African has ever won a grand slam tournament.

Kenyan, Paul wekesa has never win a grand slam either, but his record is way better than any south African -- both in Australia, France and US opens.

The first screenshot is for Paul wekesa... The second one is for your fellow Boer. The gap is huuuuge!

Muppet............ John Kriek won 2 Australian opens, Kevin Curren won 4 doubles grand slams, Frew Mcmillan, won 5 doubles grand slam titles , Sandra Reynolds won 5 grand slam doubles titles , Danie Visser 3 doubles grand slam titles.

Then Kevin Anderson and Wayne Ferreira make your blokes record look like childs play

rvp2018:
I know you've been promised money to re-configure your economy from coal to renewable - but remember they are many times more expensive than coal - so era of cheap coal power is gone.

Education - I checked your stats and I am not impressed. You have only 50 TVET colleges with total enrollment of 800K - with annual university enrollment of 170K- total university of enrollment of 800K - if we remove distance learning from UNISA - and international students - it starts to look grim.

You have about 11-12m kids aged btw 1-17 - then we come to colleges & universities we drop to 1.5-2m - where are the rest of 4-5 million going - assuming 18-22 are college going?

Education is not universities - that is just 10% - the 90% is where the action is - and that is difference btw middle class trap & transitioning to developed country.

And stop comparing yourself to Africa - you will always WIN. Even kenya we dont compare ourselves to countries south of Sahara and north of Limpopo river because we will always win. We try to compare ourselves to South Africa - because that is North star - to become middle class country.

South Africa should compare itself to developed countries - Mauritus just became one - and aim to transition from joblessness, crime, poverty and hopelessness that is slowly gripping in and turning you to yet another failed Africa state.

- Maintenance for wind farms and solar farms is much cheaper than coal stations, it the start up cost that is expensive

- Must I post attainment rates? and destroy you like always?

- There are over 300 private tertiary institutions in SA and 26 public universities....do you research before spewing nonsense.....just in the 26 public universities there were over 1 million student enrolments for 2022

- Im not comparing to Africa....we far exceed Africa, it's just you trying to compare Kenya with SA

- What's the population of Mauritius ?

rvp2018:
Coal - you exported close to 2 billion dollars - and you use it to generate lots of electricity. This coal business has no future. So you hopefully are planning a future without it.

Your delusional if you think your education is highest in Africa - your higher education (universities) are very good - but everything else in shambles - which is why your economy cannot transition to developed world like Mauritius has done. Remember only 2% of kids end up in universities...where are 98% going to? did they receive good education that prepare them?

Land reform and racial inequality is a key issue. Malema won't be getting 10% support if it want.

Good progress on immigration. Now you need to give business to SAA of deporting immigrants - after securing all your borders. Dont wait for violence to occur again.

- I don't think you are reading the news however we've gotten billions of dollars of investment for renewable energy....secondly we also pioneered coal to oil... So yeah, there's that to.

- go look at our secondary and tertiary attainment statistics... They are one of the highest in Africa.. Much higher than Kenya btw... We also rank 33rd in the world wrt quality of education, by far the highest in Africa.

- Malema doesn't get votes just because of land reform.... The fact is that only 1% Of SAns think land reform is a pressing issue.....things like Job creation and safety ect ect rank much much much higher.

- overall our illegal migrant population isn't that high compared to Europe and the US.... Obviously when you are the US of Africa people will inevitable floke to your country

Captured Nigerian armour:

rvp2018:
There is multiplier effect from minning - like your power sector depend on coal minning.
Ruto is corrupt but what distinguish kenya from south africa - is political will to institute reforms and structural changes.
It appears to me this ended in South Africa in 1990s.
Yet South Africa faces serious challenges - Land reforms, Immigration, Education, Eskom, Unions, etc.
Kenya is facing it's demon headon.

so you saying we have to much coal and that's why Eskom is struggling??

-Land Reform isn't a serious challenge, just a political scape goat, in reality less than 1% actually said it is a pressing issue in a recent poll.

- illegal immigrant numbers have dropped ever since the SANDF started patrolling the border.

- Education: our education is ranked highest in Africa

- Unions....what about them?

Shma2022:
I expected this, of course from you. A mor0n - who knows nothing outside heckling and chest-beating.
Why should you speak as if there is any female Boer in your country who can outshine her?

No! Winning a single grand slam opens is not a walk in the park, No black-skinned came close to quarters; not even Boer qualified for that. Winning the grand slam junior means you can play in any main tournament. That's why she is ranked 1145 in the world -- in the main league.

South Africa has won multiple grandslams...vs 1 for Kenya

Shma2022:
Why should I be embarrassed to announce it?

Well, 1145... In 2022. I don't think there is any Boer currently close to that.

In 2022, we have millions of tennis players. 30 20yrs ago, we had few players interested in sports, that's why securing a good position was easy.

Where does Kenya rank vs SA in the Davis Cup... Remember you said SA can't stand Kenya in Tennis...

Shma2022:
Refer to my previous reply.

like I said...you admit to being a hypocrite

Shma2022:
Better than any SAn. That is the bone of contention.

OK... I'll take it you are just to embarrassed to say it

Let's do another ranking.... Where does Kenya rank in the Davis Cup?

Shma2022:
Bozo, I'm not here to defend myself... Let's say I don' t give a sh*t about SA success interlinked to Boer. Yes.

And yes, for me Nigerians and Ghanians are way better than lazy Khoisans, and zulus.

OK so you admit you are a hypocrite and thus your entire argument about race is nonsensical..

Shma2022:
Better than any female south African. Both boers and the rest.

that's not what I asked... What's her ranking?....are you embarrassed to say it?

rvp2018:
Remove gold - it's already un-economical - you're digging 10kms inside the earth crust; give up;
Coal - I dont see future for that - not with global warming - max 20yrs and coal will be banned.
The world is trying to sink carbondioxide - and you're going to earth carbondioxide reservior - and releasing them
It gotta to stop.

That leaves plantinum

And minerals never really make countries great - because the prices will fluctuate - economy doesnt like that.

ANC remain your biggest albatross and if you can remove it; you'll be well on the way to making ammends.

For now kenya is gonna overtake you in a decade.

You do know mining only makes up 8% of our Economy right?

Also Ruto is just another typically corrupt Kenyan politician.... The status quo will remain...and yes, Kenya will over take SA eventually, but that's simply down to population growth....and will only happen when you and I are long gone

Shma2022:
Whites playing for SA doesn't pain me.. It pains me when a black SAn looks down upon the effort of other black nations . It's painful yes.

You will never understand.

it's seems to pain you very much... Because all I ever hear is"you only better than Kenya because of whites"

Also don't you look down on Nigeria and Ghana ?? So what's with the hypocrisy?

Shma2022:
Better than any South African.

What's her ranking

Shma2022:
South Africa GDP ppp is 800M. Where do you get the audacity to lie.

that's 2021....its nearly 2023 bru

rvp2018:
Once your run out of coal,nickel,plantinum and gold - which recently are enjoying good times - and boosting your GDP - we will simply overtake and you cant do nothing about it.

We are fixing our country - reforming - and working on it. You're not. You're just bickering....there are almost no political will to deal with anything...immigration, unemployment, racial inequality, education, Eskom.

Only Malema is shouting. ANC are busy feasting.

We have 40 years of gold left, 173 years of coal, 200 years of platinum reserves.... Nickel isn't even on of our major minerals... So don't know why you brought it up.

Secondly you probably haven't seen SAs latest by election results and poll numbers.... The ANC isn't winning in 2024.....

Shma2022:
I don't care if it pains you. My discussion with Austine should be none of your business.

But why are you pretending to defend him while deep down you're bursting with joy .

my bru it obviously pains you hence you keep bringing race in to the discussion .....

Shma2022:
Check the record of Okutoyi. She's a champion in junior grand slum opens. Runners up in ATP main cup. And she has just started. Your player has retired... She's probably dead or on her pension scheme.

what's her current ranking?